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LostInTheZone Mar 8, 2007 11:04 PM
Bauhaus!
 
I'm a big fan of 30s-40s bauhaus-style cantelevered windows. I like the proportions of the window frames. The attention to detail and proportion is what distinguishes early high modernism from the later, streetscape-destroying garbage it enabled.

Sasso pics from Germantown:

http://phillyskyline.com/hoods/north...mpacthouse.jpg

http://phillyskyline.com/hoods/north...ltendunkin.jpg

The always-classic PSFS building- built in 1932. Is this the only bauhaus skyscraper?

http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/psfs/psfs1_base.jpg

http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/psfs/...12marketup.jpghttp://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/psfs/...fromludlow.jpg

http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/psfs/...thmarriott.jpg

original Cartier clock:

http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/psfs/psfs_cartier1.jpg

33rd floor penthouse- jaw-droppingly gorgeous:

http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/psfs/psfs_33rdfl_2.jpg

http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/psfs/psfs_33rdfl_3.jpg

http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/psfs/psfs_33rdfl_4.jpg

more pics on phillyskyline.

LostInTheZone Mar 8, 2007 11:17 PM
Girard Estate garage:

http://www.brynmawr.edu/iconog/washw/images/E/E5b.jpg

Charles Cushman said of this place in 1952: "The very last word in San Francisco dwellings. Washington at Maple [3800 West]."

http://purl.dlib.indiana.edu/iudl/ar...ull/P05884.jpg

http://purl.dlib.indiana.edu/iudl/ar...ull/P05885.jpg

Evergrey Mar 8, 2007 11:54 PM
that PSFS penthouse just screams urban chic!

BTinSF Mar 9, 2007 12:08 AM
Compare this:

http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/psfs/psfs1_base.jpg

to this:

San Francisco's Moscone West Convention Center (building in the right foreground)
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...3/IMG_0290.jpg

BTinSF Mar 9, 2007 12:22 AM
I'm not too clear on what makes something definitively bauhaus, but how about these San Francisco buildings:

http://www.skyscrapersunset.com/skys...0106-07/63.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/73853989.jpg

LostInTheZone Mar 9, 2007 12:28 AM
that first one I'd call more International Style, but I don't know what the distinction is either. I'd say that anything built after ~1950 doesn't count.

LostInTheZone Mar 9, 2007 12:39 AM
Starrett-Lehigh building, 1931: This might not be bauhaus per se, but it's certainly built on bauhaus principles. I'm hesitant to call it deco because there's almost no decoration.

ARCHITECTS: this is what is meant by ribbon windows. If your structural columns are stuck against the glass, you're doing something wrong:

http://www.nyc-architecture.com/CHE/...20Building.htm

http://www.nyc-architecture.com/CHE/008E.jpghttp://www.nyc-architecture.com/CHE/008D.jpg

http://www.nyc-architecture.com/CHE/008C.jpg

http://www.nyc-architecture.com/CHE/Pict0321.jpg

http://www.nyc-architecture.com/CHE/che-nomad10.jpg

http://www.nyc-architecture.com/CHE/008H.jpg

http://www.lightningfield.com/2006_01.html

http://www.lightningfield.com/06/01/231.jpg

http://www.lightningfield.com/06/01/232.jpg

http://www.lightningfield.com/06/01/233.jpg

seaskyfan Mar 9, 2007 12:44 AM
I've always heard the PSFS Building referred to as the first International Style skyscraper in the US. My understanding is that the Bauhaus begat the International Style.

Thanks for posting, that's one of my favorite Philly buildings and my favorite built in the last 100 years.

LostInTheZone Mar 9, 2007 1:13 AM
These are from the Art Deco! thread. Bauhaus or deco?

Quote:
Originally Posted by LostInTheZone (Post 2375279)
The streamlined moderne 1360 Montgomery Street, San Francisco:

I noticed this building last month when I was going up Telegraph Hill. I just came across the name of it now, looking for info on how high the hill was. The murals are silvery foil against white stucco:

http://www.mistersf.com/images/malloch006.jpghttp://www.mistersf.com/images/darkpassagehall02.jpghttp://www.mistersf.com/images/malloch002.jpg

http://www.mistersf.com/images/malloch05.jpghttp://www.mistersf.com/images/malloch003.jpghttp://www.mistersf.com/images/malloch04.jpg

http://www.mistersf.com/images/malloch02.jpg See the view of the Bay Bridge, mirroring the mural?

The apartments were built in '38-'39, at a time when the Hill was changing from a difficult-to-reach working-class enclave to a place appreciated by wealthier people who moved there for the views. The murals celebrate the newly opened Bay Bridge, as well as reflecting the areas's character and the 1930s preoccupation with workers and socialist themes in art.

Arriviste Mar 9, 2007 3:38 AM
Um, there are a few glaring errors on this page. Not much of it is true Bauhaus, for the Bauhaus was a small faction that only produced for a very brief pre-war period. Most of what is being shown is Art Moderne, or Deco. There are some really nice examples thought hat Ig uess could fallunder the larger umbrella of Bauhaus influence.
Personally I think that with a small group of exceptions such as Gropius' own residence in Mass. that the BH is limited to Germany. It kind of translates into the Int'l style once it leaves Germany.
Heres Walters pad:
http://www.cambridge2000.com/gallery.../P92516445.jpg

http://www.cambridge2000.com/gallery.../P92516447.jpg

Arriviste Mar 9, 2007 3:43 AM
And the Bauhaus itself:
http://www.bauhaus-dessau.de/bhimages/bauhausluft.jpg

Revolutionary for many reasons, one of which being it was one of the first buildings to actively engage the the street (in a time when cars were still somewhat rare). The structure spans the road leading to it, which was revolutionary for the time.

LSyd Mar 9, 2007 3:47 AM
there seems to be a fine line b/w some bauhaus, international, deco and moderne buildings, especially the shorter the building. eh, i'll post some examples later.

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seaskyfan Mar 9, 2007 3:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arriviste (Post 2675843)
Um, there are a few glaring errors on this page. Not much of it is true Bauhaus, for the Bauhaus was a small faction that only produced for a very brief pre-war period. Most of what is being shown is Art Moderne, or Deco. There are some really nice examples thought hat Ig uess could fallunder the larger umbrella of Bauhaus influence.
Personally I think that with a small group of exceptions such as Gropius' own residence in Mass. that the BH is limited to Germany. It kind of translates into the Int'l style once it leaves Germany.
Heres Walters pad:
http://www.cambridge2000.com/gallery.../P92516445.jpg

http://www.cambridge2000.com/gallery.../P92516447.jpg
The Gropius House is open to the public and worth a visit if you're in the Boston area (hours vary - call ahead). Aside from the Bauhaus influence Gropius also incorporated a lot of vernacular New England elements.

B4burgh Mar 9, 2007 4:24 AM
If your looking for Bahaus go to Tel Aviv. According to Wikipedia over 4,000 of the buildings are either Bahaus or early International. Recently it was made a Unesco World Heritage Site.

http://www.holidayinisrael.com

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http://www.telecom-israel.com/travel.../whitecity.jpg

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LostInTheZone Mar 9, 2007 4:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arriviste (Post 2675843)
Um, there are a few glaring errors on this page. Not much of it is true Bauhaus, for the Bauhaus was a small faction that only produced for a very brief pre-war period. Most of what is being shown is Art Moderne, or Deco. There are some really nice examples thought hat Ig uess could fallunder the larger umbrella of Bauhaus influence.
Personally I think that with a small group of exceptions such as Gropius' own residence in Mass. that the BH is limited to Germany. It kind of translates into the Int'l style once it leaves Germany.
see, I feel that architects are to dogmatic in adhering to a cannon of what is considered "bauhaus", which leads to us always seeing the same set of examples from the high priests. With this thread, I wanted people to share more common examples. To me these buildings operate under the functionalist principles of the movement, and still have solid walls.

To me, "International Style" brings to mind the glass and steel, greater emphasis on pure forms and rationalism that came after 1950 or so, vs the more solid, eccentric geometries of earlier the earlier 1930s buildings.

Arriviste Mar 9, 2007 4:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LostInTheZone (Post 2675412)
Starrett-Lehigh building, 1931: This might not be bauhaus per se, but it's certainly built on bauhaus principles. I'm hesitant to call it deco because there's almost no decoration.

ARCHITECTS: this is what is meant by ribbon windows. If your structural columns are stuck against the glass, you're doing something wrong:

http://www.nyc-architecture.com/CHE/...20Building.htm

http://www.nyc-architecture.com/CHE/008E.jpghttp://www.nyc-architecture.com/CHE/008D.jpg

http://www.nyc-architecture.com/CHE/008C.jpg

http://www.nyc-architecture.com/CHE/Pict0321.jpg

http://www.nyc-architecture.com/CHE/che-nomad10.jpg

http://www.nyc-architecture.com/CHE/008H.jpg

http://www.lightningfield.com/2006_01.html

http://www.lightningfield.com/06/01/231.jpg

http://www.lightningfield.com/06/01/232.jpg

http://www.lightningfield.com/06/01/233.jpg
Such a great post. One of my top 10 fav's all time.

LostInTheZone Mar 9, 2007 4:41 AM
this one caught my eye in that vintage Beiruit thread I made that everyone ignored

http://purl.dlib.indiana.edu/iudl/ar...ull/P14378.jpg

LostInTheZone Mar 9, 2007 4:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arriviste (Post 2675859)
And the Bauhaus itself: The structure spans the road leading to it, which was revolutionary for the time.
see, as you might gather, I have a genuine appreciation for good modern architecture. The movement produced some truly great buildings and had a lot of ideas that were worth adding to the architectural vocabulary. The thing is though, statements like this are infuriating to people who don't like modernism, and the modernist crowd tends to think a bit too highly of itself a little too often.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ArchLondon.jpg

STERNyc Mar 9, 2007 5:04 AM
NYC's best example of Bauhaus architecture is a building in Hunter College designed by Shreve, Lamb & Harmon, the same architects as the Empire State Building in 1940.

Unfortunately this is the best picture I could find of it, online:

http://www.thecityreview.com/ues/parkave/hunterc.gif

Arriviste Mar 9, 2007 5:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LostInTheZone (Post 2676072)
see, as you might gather, I have a genuine appreciation for good modern architecture. The movement produced some truly great buildings and had a lot of ideas that were worth adding to the architectural vocabulary. The thing is though, statements like this are infuriating to people who don't like modernism, and the modernist crowd tends to think a bit too highly of itself a little too often.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ArchLondon.jpg
Touche. This modernist can admit to being wrong technically, but I guess I was referring more specifically to the Bauhaus as being the first to consider the emerging car culture, and react to it. But yes, I guess there have been MANY buildings that have spanned a road, but they were originally not spanning roads per se... and our argument spirals into a semantic game after this. We could argue it to death. I totally see your point, and agree that Modernism does come with a certain intrinsic "confidence" for better or more likely worse.


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