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Arch+Eng Dec 17, 2015 4:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wanderer34 (Post 7273100)
Cira 2 does a very good job of enhancing the 30th St area!!! I'd like to see it be the tallest tower so far west of the Schuylkill!!! The parcel at 30th and Market, is perfect for a supertall, can anybody say 3000+ ft??? :skyhighmind: Imagine the tallest building in the world in the place where freedom began, right here in Philadelphia!!!

All we need is Multi Billionaire dollar Middle Eastern prince that has something to prove.

Knight Hospitaller Dec 17, 2015 4:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Arch+Eng (Post 7273515)
All we need is Multi Billionaire dollar Middle Eastern prince that has something to prove.

Nothing says "where freedom began" like a wealthy Arab prince.

jjv007 Dec 17, 2015 7:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wanderer34 (Post 7273100)
Cira 2 does a very good job of enhancing the 30th St area!!! I'd like to see it be the tallest tower so far west of the Schuylkill!!! The parcel at 30th and Market, is perfect for a supertall, can anybody say 3000+ ft??? :skyhighmind: Imagine the tallest building in the world in the place where freedom began, right here in Philadelphia!!!

:koko:

Arch+Eng Dec 17, 2015 8:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jjv007 (Post 7273736)
:koko:

Delusion of Grandeur
:haha:

Boku Dec 17, 2015 8:28 PM

Shoot, why don't we just build a space elevator?

Arch+Eng Dec 17, 2015 8:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Boku (Post 7273794)
Shoot, why don't we just build a space elevator?

...to Mars, so that we can claim it for Philadelphia. Then Cap the whole planet and create an artificial atmosphere. Then urbanize the entire planet....since money is no object.

Knight Hospitaller Dec 17, 2015 9:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Boku (Post 7273794)
Shoot, why don't we just build a space elevator?

I already suggested that for this building (or at least attempted to start an unfounded rumor to that effect).

allovertown Dec 17, 2015 9:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Arch+Eng (Post 7273836)
...to Mars, so that we can claim it for Philadelphia. Then Cap the whole planet and create an artificial atmosphere. Then urbanize the entire planet....since money is no object.

Ambitions are so low around here. I won't respect Philadelphia until they finally put a 10,000 footer in the Andromeda Galaxy.

domodeez Dec 29, 2015 8:38 PM

http://www.delawareonline.com/story/...-lot/77987110/

Brandywine continues selling spree.

Brandywine sells 1.6-acre surface parking lot in Downtown Wilmington to JPMorgan Chase for $6.5M.

Plokoon11 Dec 29, 2015 8:54 PM

Is that good or bad?

Boku Dec 29, 2015 9:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Plokoon11 (Post 7283140)
Is that good or bad?

Think it's just a continuation of Brandywine selling off assets in order to fund their super duper top secret skyscraper plans.

Jawnadelphia Dec 29, 2015 9:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Boku (Post 7283161)
Think it's just a continuation of Brandywine selling off assets in order to fund their super duper top secret skyscraper plans.

I agree, this parking lot sale is relative small potatoes considering they just made over $350 mil off the IRS building. I think it's clear they are selling off pieces in order to further new developments in Philadelphia.

On a side note, this is finally some good news for Wilmington. That parking lot has sat vacant for over a decade, but the whole time has had a big sign with a rendering of a fabulous mini-Cira Centre type tower for Wilmington (which of course never came to fruition). I always thought it was just another example of Wilmington's decline ...how that sign wasted away ...year after year....never to be built.

But - since Chase already has 2 buildings here, and is adding some 1800 jobs to the area, it looks like #3 will finally be built.

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summersm343 Dec 29, 2015 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Plokoon11 (Post 7283140)
Is that good or bad?

They're looking to invest a ton of money into Philadelphia. They're likely selling off assets to prepare for new construction. Word is we'll here more about Cira II next year. :shrug:

Philly Fan Dec 29, 2015 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by summersm343 (Post 7283285)
Word is we'll here more about Cira II next year. :shrug:

So you mean next week? :rolleyes:

TechTalkGuy Dec 30, 2015 1:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Philly Fan (Post 7283301)
So you mean next week? :rolleyes:

It could be as early as a few days if we're fortunate! :tup:

domodeez Dec 30, 2015 2:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TallCoolOne (Post 7283200)
I agree, this parking lot sale is relative small potatoes considering they just made over $350 mil off the IRS building. I think it's clear they are selling off pieces in order to further new developments in Philadelphia.

Agree. That's what I was getting at but didn't explicitly state it.

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Originally Posted by TallCoolOne (Post 7283200)
On a side note, this is finally some good news for Wilmington. That parking lot has sat vacant for over a decade, but the whole time has had a big sign with a rendering of a fabulous mini-Cira Centre type tower for Wilmington (which of course never came to fruition). I always thought it was just another example of Wilmington's decline ...how that sign wasted away ...year after year....never to be built.

But - since Chase already has 2 buildings here, and is adding some 1800 jobs to the area, it looks like #3 will finally be built.

The only reason JPMorgan Chase has been buying up the buildings it leases from Brandywine is because new IRS tax laws make it more appealing for corporations to own, rather than lease buildings. I agree Chase wouldn't buy this surface lot unless it was planning to finally develop this Pelli-designed tower (or something else, I suppose) as part of its employment expansion. We can all look forward to more frequent Philly-Wilmington SEPTA express trains in conjunction with that expansion as well.

Brandywine has been wanting to exit the entire Delaware market for a few years now, but that is more a reflection of their larger strategy than it is a commentary on Wilmington. 2016 is shaping up to be a huge year for Wilmington. Lots of really big news on the way.

1487 Dec 30, 2015 6:05 PM

who else could be potential tenant for Cira 2? I think they really need to look outside the region. Most major CC employers have already made their decisions on relocation. Most of the old school suburban employers (I.e. vanguard and the like) aren't going to give up on sprawling office parks.

Human Scale Dec 30, 2015 8:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 1487 (Post 7283880)
who else could be potential tenant for Cira 2? I think they really need to look outside the region. Most major CC employers have already made their decisions on relocation. Most of the old school suburban employers (I.e. vanguard and the like) aren't going to give up on sprawling office parks.

ACE Insurance. They are too big for their current building near 500 Walnut. If they moved wholly they could take up a whole Cira II.

1487 Jan 4, 2016 1:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Human Scale (Post 7284024)
ACE Insurance. They are too big for their current building near 500 Walnut. If they moved wholly they could take up a whole Cira II.

interesting. i remember when they moved to their current location years back. Philly has snagged a few small and medium sized firms from the burbs in recent years. Hopefully we can get a big one soon. It shouldnt be that hard when you can offer space in a tower with generous state provided tax breaks.

Flyers2001 Jan 4, 2016 1:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 1487 (Post 7287076)
interesting. i remember when they moved to their current location years back. Philly has snagged a few small and medium sized firms from the burbs in recent years. Hopefully we can get a big one soon. It shouldnt be that hard when you can offer space in a tower with generous state provided tax breaks.

That and transportation cannot get much better than a few steps off 30th street station and the subway. Such a prime location. :cheers:

Other one being 8th and Market. :shrug:


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