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Chicago103 Nov 4, 2005 11:45 PM

Coruscant alert! Its hard to believe that stuff as dense as that actually exists on earth.

Ex-Ithacan Nov 5, 2005 12:07 AM

Sorry, but I just developed a bad case of claustrophobia. That walled city is insane. Thanks for the pics Molsen.

PrOfOuNd_ReTaRdAtIoN Nov 6, 2005 3:33 AM

the city looks soo..."organic"..cool place thou

excel Nov 6, 2005 11:07 AM

Re: Kowloon: The Old and the New
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MolsonExport
Vancouver has got nothing on HK:

Probably one of the weirdest comments ive heard. Two cities shouldnt even be compared. First things first, just a little bit of a difference in population.(Vancouver has 580,000 in the city where hong kong has just about 8 million and probably way more uncounted.) who knows how many ppl live in and around hong kong aswell. then try the age of the city and the zoning of the city which seems to allows skyscrapers anywhere possible. Anyways, last time i checked vancouver wasnt trying to be like HK.

excel Nov 6, 2005 11:12 AM

Otherwise, these are some of the most amazing pictures ive ever seen. It blows me away to see the conditions some people live in. its just amazing.

MolsonExport Nov 7, 2005 3:49 PM

Re: Re: Kowloon: The Old and the New
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by excel
Quote:

Originally Posted by MolsonExport
Vancouver has got nothing on HK:

Probably one of the weirdest comments ive heard. Two cities shouldnt even be compared. First things first, just a little bit of a difference in population.(Vancouver has 580,000 in the city where hong kong has just about 8 million and probably way more uncounted.) who knows how many ppl live in and around hong kong aswell. then try the age of the city and the zoning of the city which seems to allows skyscrapers anywhere possible. Anyways, last time i checked vancouver wasnt trying to be like HK.

Of course. No badmouthing of Vancouver was (or is) ever intended; I lived in Van for 5 years and loved the place.

Many of us Canadians freak out over the residential density of Downtown Vancouver...I was merely pointing out that when you see HK, it puts things into perspective!

excel Nov 8, 2005 7:26 AM

Re: Re: Re: Kowloon: The Old and the New
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MolsonExport
Of course. No badmouthing of Vancouver was (or is) ever intended; I lived in Van for 5 years and loved the place.

Many of us Canadians freak out over the residential density of Downtown Vancouver...I was merely pointing out that when you see HK, it puts things into perspective!

Oh alright Fair enough. Also didnt realize u were from vancouver, sorta thought u were pulling that straight outa ur ass for some reason. makes sense. sorry for goin all out there.

edluva Nov 8, 2005 10:16 AM

nevermind kwc. if the other stat is true, kowloon has an average pop density of 114kppsm. that's almost twice manhattan's, and larger too (2 million). and if that's true, then hong kong (city) might have, easily, the densest UA on earth.

olivepixel Nov 9, 2005 8:56 AM

Just realized I still have some photos from the various books on KWC hosted. Try abebooks.com if you want to buy them. So, for anyone interested (Click on the thumbnails for larger images):

City of Darkness - ISBN: 1873200137

This is by far the best book on the place, lots of amazing photos and some very interesting interviews with the residents.

http://www.olivepixel.com/misc/kwc/cid1t.jpg

http://www.olivepixel.com/misc/kwc/cid2t.jpg

http://www.olivepixel.com/misc/kwc/cid3t.jpg

http://www.olivepixel.com/misc/kwc/cid4t.jpg

http://www.olivepixel.com/misc/kwc/cid5t.jpg

http://www.olivepixel.com/misc/kwc/cid6t.jpg




Kowloon Walled City - ISBN:4582277365

Japanese book of black and white photography. Also very good, and the text is in both English and Japanese. Includes shots of the demolition. Might be a little hard to find.

http://www.olivepixel.com/misc/kwc/kwc1t.jpg

http://www.olivepixel.com/misc/kwc/kwc2t.jpg

http://www.olivepixel.com/misc/kwc/kwc3t.jpg

http://www.olivepixel.com/misc/kwc/kwc4t.jpg

http://www.olivepixel.com/misc/kwc/kwc5t.jpg


Crack in the Wall - ISBN:0340488077

This book is quite cheap, but more about Jackie Pullinger bringing Jesus to crack addicts living in and around the walled city than the place itself. Uninspired photos, and pretty uninteresting text.

http://www.olivepixel.com/misc/kwc/citw1t.jpg

http://www.olivepixel.com/misc/kwc/citw2t.jpg

http://www.olivepixel.com/misc/kwc/citw3t.jpg

MolsonExport Nov 9, 2005 2:21 PM

I've wanted to buy "City of Darkness" for some time now. Absolutely fascinating stuff.

CGII Nov 12, 2005 4:49 AM

Anyone else reminded of the Financial Distric that the Crimson Permament Assurance attacked?
http://www.photomichaelwolf.com/hong...tecture/23.jpg

SSLL Nov 12, 2005 8:34 PM

Amazing. It's as intriguing to me as the Ryungong Hotel. Was it served by the subway? And what is there now?

MolsonExport Nov 13, 2005 11:24 PM

^torn down by the British Colonial authorities in mid 1990s; now the site of KWC Park

vvill Nov 14, 2005 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysler Guy2
Anyone else reminded of the Financial Distric that the Crimson Permament Assurance attacked?
http://www.photomichaelwolf.com/hong...tecture/23.jpg

i find this picture particularly intriguing...

among these towers, one's completed a year ago while the rest are completed like 10 years? 15 years ago?

MolsonExport Dec 5, 2005 2:54 PM

Reminds me of the WCK
 
http://img44.exs.cx/img44/113/e20080.jpg

MolsonExport Jan 27, 2006 6:54 PM

New pics on the Walled City of Kowloon:
 
http://harvest-cafe.com/botak/hk/img02/kwc01.jpg
http://harvest-cafe.com/botak/hk/img02/kwc02.jpg
http://harvest-cafe.com/botak/hk/img02/kwc03.jpg
http://harvest-cafe.com/botak/hk/img02/kwc04.jpg
http://www.coupland.com/drool/images/kowloon01.jpg

MolsonExport Mar 8, 2006 7:28 PM

An opinion about the WCoK:

The Walled City was the "City of Joy" a la HongKong. An improverished,
crowded squalor where the poorest of the poor of HK huddled. A place
where people were allow to live in inhuman and deplorable conditions. A
place where all kinds of vices florished. A place that I once called
home.....

It was a relic of the "Peking Convention" signed in June 1897. It specified
that Kowloon and the New Territories were to be leased to Great Britain for
a hundred year. It reserved the old walled Kowloon City for the jurisdiction
of China and was off limit to the colonial law. Subsequent abandonment by the
Chinese officials left the place a favorite hideout for criminals because
of its status as a legal twilight zone. In order to avoid squirmishes with
China the colonial government turned a blind eye to drug dealing,
prostitution, gambling, loan-sharking etc. You could even find places that
served dog meat and cat meat :).


Ironically, the place was quite safe for outsider. The Triads who ruled the
place made their money from "tourism" - HKers who wanted a taste of the
forbidden :). So it was in their interest to keep the place safe. Except
for petty crimes and gang warfares, the place was relatively peaceful.


It occupied a site of about eight acres and was in close proximity to the HK
International Airport. We often joked about which of the four things that we
feared the most would deliver us from misery first - the airplanes, fire,
typhoon, and the colonial AO's (most of them were HKU alumni, BTW :). Like
a couple of netters had already pointed out, the place is no more ......


I think the prosperity of HK were built on the back of people like those who
lived in the Walled City. They suffered and toiled in silence and asked for
very little in return. It's time to give them political parity so that they
can demand their fair share of the bounty and a voice in the government who
had abandoned them!

http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.tr...f1ce90efefc25a

MolsonExport Mar 31, 2006 5:44 PM

http://www.globalphotos.org/hongkong...6/DSCN1120.jpg

The old and the new in Hong Kong^

CGII Mar 31, 2006 6:44 PM

Incredible^

MolsonExport Apr 6, 2006 2:29 AM

http://www.klnwcity.org/intro/large/...ure2_large.jpg


Don't hate me because I am beautiful:
http://www.klnwcity.org/intro/large/...re12_large.jpg


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