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Trantor Jan 10, 2007 10:10 PM

Whats your opinion on this tower? At the same time, I like it but seems there are something missing... :shrug:

149 meters high, 39 floors.

plinko Jan 10, 2007 10:14 PM

A little Freed, a little Pei, a little Stubbins, even a little Seidler...all rolled up into a slick little package.

What do you think is missing?

kenc Jan 10, 2007 10:22 PM

I like it fine. Not the best design I have ever seen, but the towers in Sao Paulo tend to be somewhat boxy and plain.

Lecom Jan 10, 2007 10:33 PM

Very Minneapolis. Which is a good thing.

Trantor Jan 10, 2007 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by kenc (Post 2558062)
I like it fine. Not the best design I have ever seen, but the towers in Sao Paulo tend to be somewhat boxy and plain.

no they dont :)

the fact is that there is over 40 thousand highrises (12+ floors buildings, Emporis definition) in São Paulo, so many are bland and "erase" from the view the good ones.

I will soon create a thread with the 150 best highrises in São Paulo. (it wont include every good highrise, nor it will include tall and important but imho ugly or bland buildings)

As for what is missing in this tower, I am not sure. Maybe the texture could be more intricated?

kool maudit Jan 10, 2007 11:45 PM

it is a cheap version of ibm-marathon.

Trantor Jan 11, 2007 12:26 AM

care to explain why you think its CHEAP??

btw, maybe this IBM Marathon building is a cheap version of that Frankfurt building then... :rolleyes:

alps Jan 11, 2007 9:19 PM

Looks good, if I could change one thing I would probably want to have them work on the base a bit.

village person Jan 11, 2007 10:58 PM

Those ridiculous overhanging watchamadoodles are just overdone. Why can't a curved glass wall just END, without bangs?!!? Why does it always have to look like it's wearing a %&#*ing baseball cap?!?!?!?! IT'S ALL SO #$%@* *$&@*$ED UP!!! WHO ARE THESE %^#@%ING &%#S WHO *$%^#ING COME UP WITH THESE $^#&@ES?!?!?!?!?!?! DON'T LOOK AT ME LIKE THAT!!!!! FFPPPBBLLLIT!!!!!!!!!!!! Actually, it looks nice! :happysad:

marcus Jan 11, 2007 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by Trantor (Post 2558373)
btw, maybe this IBM Marathon building is a cheap version of that Frankfurt building then... :rolleyes:

I don't think it's that way just because of the fact that the minneapolis one was built a year earlier before the one in frankfurt.

Anyway, I kind of like this building:)

Trantor Jan 12, 2007 12:26 AM

^but I preffer the Frankfurt building over the Mineappolis one...

architect1 Jan 12, 2007 1:59 AM

I like it its a great po mo building. I would of made it 2 times the size it is now. but thats just 2 double the floor space. looks kinda tight.

marcus Jan 12, 2007 3:06 AM

I feel that this building is kind of unoriginal, because this disign exists in franfurt,minneapolis,and montreal, but I still like this building alot. I wish it were taller though.:)

LMich Jan 12, 2007 9:34 AM

Yeah, I think the criticism is that the design is rather generic, and looks like it may have been on a tighter budget (at least the exterior) than ones that look similar to it.

I'm a little confused as to why you seem to be defensive when you asked us our opinion on this building. I could see if someone totally trashed the design, but no one has done any such thing. In fact, most people find it a decent design, if even one repeated around the world, and maybe with more attention given to the facade of the other one's similar to this one. It's a decent design that could be worse. It could also be better, and even you implied that by saying that you think it's missing something. We're simply offering our opinion on what we think you say is "missing."

Rizzo Jan 14, 2007 4:02 PM

I think it's fine. One thing that is beginning to change in architecture is facades with more layers and depth. This one is pretty flat faced. Nothing wrong with that, but that was more of a trend in the early 90's. I think that's where people get the "boring" idea from. They want more layers to add interest.

I like this tower though.

staff Jan 14, 2007 5:29 PM

Feels like I've seen it before but better looking.
This one looks pretty good, but feels kind of "cheap" as someone else stated in this thread.

M.K. Jan 14, 2007 6:09 PM

I came also from the city of this Building Sao Paulo - SP Brazil and as I live abroad, I do not know personally this building up to now, only in photos. Regarding to its architecture, I see something common as the other ones in Berrini Avenue, its area of Faria Lima Avenue. The architecture is clean, easy in composing, similiar to hotel Melià in Marginal Pinheiros complex, and a little bit of Burj Dubai, a very small version for Sao Paulo with terraces divided in blocks of the building in different high places, something common already used in USA. It's a common modern building, but not even futuristic. A small version of quite used a lot architecture of mark highrises abroad. For daily tasks in office, I liked it.:cool: This is the problem today of Sao Paulo, they build a lot from 100m - 200m, but not a postcard building that is a point of reference. The city is an ocean of buildings quite similar in high and type with just small different aspects in architecture. There is no plan in doing a skyline with pieces of blocks considering a postcard at all, like Dubai and Pudong area in China for example. What is the skyline of Sao Paulo in the confusion city it is?. Maybe the Tv towers above buildings in Paulista avenuejust because they are in top of a hill, , that make a difference using the natural high quote of the mountain. Considering an unique building as postcard, it is not. :previous:

LosAngelesBeauty Jan 25, 2007 12:20 PM

It looks plain.

I actually like the back side of the tower better.

The front of the tower with its curved facade looks soo plain. There is definitely something "missing."

RLS_rls Jan 25, 2007 9:44 PM

I think it's a very nice, but average, office building. You wouldn't really miss it on a skyline, but it would be pretty subtle.

I'm not quite sure about that overhang though. It could use some work.

phillyskyline Jan 26, 2007 2:57 AM

I like the design, but most towers in Sao Paulo don't exceed 200 meters, right? So this probably will not stick out in terms of height.

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