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HomeInMyShoes Sep 22, 2014 8:41 PM

^I suppose we would have to look at the building in context. Perhaps it is very cognizant of the late 1970s and early 1980s concrete and brick aesthetic with odd circles and things. I'm surprised it doesn't have a gigantic godzilla handbag handle on top like some of the buildings of that era.

Cyro Sep 22, 2014 9:39 PM

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Originally Posted by headhorse (Post 6739372)
I don't know, I really don't mind this building. it's a rental building going up in a part of town that still commands fairly low rent and real estate prices. the materials look good, the massing is decent, and there are some architectural details that make it a bit more interesting. if it gets built, I think it will be a good addition to the area.

Sounds like a reasonable assesment.

Cyro Oct 14, 2014 2:50 PM

Image Change to OP, previous links to twitter did not function anymore.

Cyro Nov 26, 2014 10:06 PM

Update:Nov.2014

Units down to aprx: 100 from the150 announced initially.
Roof- Penthouse units added, gym, outdoor deck facing E.
Mechanical/Contractor: Nova 3 / Alpha Masonry
Budget - Completion/Start: Withheld/TBA


https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7553/...c9e58bde_o.jpg

Simplicity Nov 26, 2014 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyro (Post 6822361)
Update:Nov.2014

Units down to aprx: 100 from the150 announced initially.
Roof- Penthouse units added, gym, outdoor deck facing E.
Mechanical/Contractor: Nova 3 / Alpha Masonry
Budget - Completion/Start: Withheld/TBA


https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7553/...c9e58bde_o.jpg

Interesting. I've never seen this source. Where is this pulled from?

Cyro Nov 26, 2014 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 6822374)
Interesting. I've never seen this source. Where is this pulled from?

OP..from the Sotirios website. Seems they've added a few bits of information on who's involved in the project.
http://sotirioscorp.com/projects/267-sherbrook - Go to their live link.

bejb Nov 27, 2014 4:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 6822374)
Interesting. I've never seen this source. Where is this pulled from?

It was from an exhibit during the RAIC festival on new (finished and proposed) projects in Winnipeg. They had these sheets for every project (models) on display. (maybe 2 dozen?)

Simplicity Nov 27, 2014 5:52 PM

Looks like Alpha Masonry is the contractor. I think I made the remark a while back that this may be the wildcard towards feasibility given that it's expected to be a rental, but with it appearing to be at about 2/3rds of the original number of units and this thing likely not in for permits yet, I'm not sure that's going to matter any more.

A comparable build would be the units on Rothesay that Akman is completing for Edison and I've heard close to $200/ft built. That's not a number that can get you financed.

esquire Nov 27, 2014 6:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 6823242)
Looks like Alpha Masonry is the contractor. I think I made the remark a while back that this may be the wildcard towards feasibility given that it's expected to be a rental, but with it appearing to be at about 2/3rds of the original number of units and this thing likely not in for permits yet, I'm not sure that's going to matter any more.

Alpha is the designer's dad, so no surprise there

Simplicity Nov 27, 2014 6:02 PM

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Originally Posted by esquire (Post 6823252)
Alpha is the designer's dad, so no surprise there

Yeah, that part I had known before, I just didn't know whether a sub would ever play general. It appears they may...

esquire Nov 27, 2014 7:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 6823256)
Yeah, that part I had known before, I just didn't know whether a sub would ever play general. It appears they may...

True enough. This must be the largest project they've taken on by orders of magnitude.

Winnipeg Architect Nov 27, 2014 7:16 PM

I will be surprised if this ever happens.

They most likely missed the Dec 1 cut-off date for the energy code.

Even so, costs are so high that they will not make money as a rental.

Same story with the Pumphouse.

All Talk.

Simplicity Nov 27, 2014 11:04 PM

I'm understanding now that the new national energy code doesn't apply to new residential builds in Part 3. Just assembly and commercial occupancies.

If that's the case, things may not be so dire...

Winnipeg Architect Nov 27, 2014 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 6823597)
I'm understanding now that the new national energy code doesn't apply to new residential builds in Part 3. Just assembly and commercial occupancies.

If that's the case, things may not be so dire...

True. But the email I received from the city a few months ago stated that they are trying to bring that code to multi-family in the future.

That "architect" has designed an addition.

He has done really nothing.

Simplicity Nov 28, 2014 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Winnipeg Architect (Post 6823642)
True. But the email I received from the city a few months ago stated that they are trying to bring that code to multi-family in the future.

That "architect" has designed an addition.

He has done really nothing.

What addition is this?

Winnipeg Architect Nov 28, 2014 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 6823700)
What addition is this?

Go to his website.

trueviking Nov 29, 2014 4:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 6823597)
I'm understanding now that the new national energy code doesn't apply to new residential builds in Part 3. Just assembly and commercial occupancies.

If that's the case, things may not be so dire...

Where did you hear that?! We are definitely not proceeding on that basis. I'm working on two residential multi family project and both will be part of the new code. Do you have something that states this?

Would be great if true but we've been told the opposite.

Winnipeg Architect Nov 29, 2014 6:07 PM

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Originally Posted by trueviking (Post 6824921)
Where did you hear that?! We are definitely not proceeding on that basis. I'm working on two residential multi family project and both will be part of the new code. Do you have something that states this?

Would be great if true but we've been told the opposite.


Please see our recently posted Information Bulletin number 2014-014-A/B/E/M/P/S regarding the adoption and administration of the Manitoba Energy Code for Buildings (MECB) which is being adopted by the Province of Manitoba on December 1, 2014. This bulletin supersedes the previous Bulletin 2014-009-A/B/E/M/P/S of the same title. It provides additional information for professionals and building owners and provides weblinks to key documents and certificates.



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Simplicity Nov 29, 2014 6:12 PM

^ Winnipeg Architect, can you clarify this? It's coming in a little jumbled...

1ajs Nov 29, 2014 7:20 PM

that notice does not make any sens


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