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simms3_redux Apr 22, 2014 11:58 PM

^^^Well, there is the whole planning/environmental review/entitlement/approval process that takes a few centuries in SF. :) Tishman Speyer has some other land working its way through entitlements, I believe (worth somewhere between 900,000-1,000,000 SF). There's also TMG's proposal at First, and that land on Townsend just traded hands yesterday, pre-entitled and zoned for around 300,000 SF. There's also the question of rent growth...I wouldn't be surprised if we're getting to a point where land valuations have to come down on office entitled parcels in order for office developers to make something pencil out if they plan for anything less than "build to core" 10+ year holds. As far into this cycle as we are, you can't underwrite 5%+ rent growths for that much longer going forward, LoL.

The city also has that RFP out for the latest TB block to go on the market, and it has gone down the office route instead of multifamily. I think developers/lenders should be wary of Prop M coming up...we're pretty fast approaching it.

minesweeper Apr 23, 2014 2:12 AM

Here's the official press release:

Quote:

Tishman Speyer Signs LinkedIn to a 450,000 SF Lease

San Francisco, CA— April 22, 2014 — Mayor Edwin M. Lee and leading global property developer Tishman Speyer today announced that LinkedIn, the world’s largest professional network on the Internet, has signed a lease for the entire 26-story building under construction at 222 Second Street. The City’s Office of Economic and Workforce Development estimates that the nearly 450,000 square feet of office space can accommodate approximately 2,500 jobs in San Francisco.

“As a national leader in job creation, San Francisco is the perfect home for a company that is connecting people to jobs, and I am pleased that LinkedIn is significantly expanding their presence here,” said Mayor Lee. LinkedIn’s decision to grow in the Innovation Capital of the World demonstrates, once again, investor confidence in our City.”

“We’re pleased to welcome LinkedIn to our roster of world-class tenants,” said Tishman Speyer Co-CEOs Jerry Speyer and Rob Speyer. “Our objective is to build the very best, sustainable office properties in the best cities around the globe, meeting the high quality space needs of leading organizations. We have had great results in San Francisco, successfully delivering signature office and residential properties to the market in the past several years, with more on the way.”

Headquartered in Mountain View, LinkedIn has been steadily increasing its presence in San Francisco. LinkedIn currently has 135,000 square feet at One Montgomery Tower and soon will be occupying 87,000 square feet at 505 Howard Street.

“With this new building, LinkedIn is committed to expanding in San Francisco, giving us even more access to some of the most talented professionals in the world across a variety of functions, including technology, sales, and operations,” said LinkedIn Head of Workplace Jim Morgensen. “We look forward to San Francisco becoming a larger part of our growing Bay Area presence.”

The new 222 Second Street was designed and is being constructed for LEED Gold certification, and will be ready for occupancy in early 2016. Along with other on-site and area amenities it will feature 8,500 square feet of public space.

“Today’s San Francisco office market is thriving, with companies recognizing the many advantages of a state-of-the-art building in a downtown location,” said Tishman Speyer Senior Managing Director Carl Shannon. “This building was planned and designed accordingly, and we think LinkedIn is a perfect fit.”

fflint Apr 23, 2014 2:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simms3_redux (Post 6549665)
^^^Well, there is the whole planning/environmental review/entitlement/approval process that takes a few centuries in SF. :) Tishman Speyer has some other land working its way through entitlements, I believe (worth somewhere between 900,000-1,000,000 SF). There's also TMG's proposal at First, and that land on Townsend just traded hands yesterday, pre-entitled and zoned for around 300,000 SF. There's also the question of rent growth...I wouldn't be surprised if we're getting to a point where land valuations have to come down on office entitled parcels in order for office developers to make something pencil out if they plan for anything less than "build to core" 10+ year holds. As far into this cycle as we are, you can't underwrite 5%+ rent growths for that much longer going forward, LoL.

The city also has that RFP out for the latest TB block to go on the market, and it has gone down the office route instead of multifamily. I think developers/lenders should be wary of Prop M coming up...we're pretty fast approaching it.

Aren't there a few fully-entitled office projects lying around? 350 Bush?

simms3_redux Apr 23, 2014 3:21 AM

350 Bush (which is small in the grand scheme of things...) and 500 Townsend (also small at 300,000 SF). Maybe a couple others. But entitlements expire and even fully entitled sites need all of the stars to align to actually see development. An entitled site like 350 Bush likely won't be developed before an as of yet entitled site south of Market. Why would anyone want to move to that section of the North FiDi before moving to something in the hot new transit-connected mixed-use district that is Transbay or something in SoMa?

simms3_redux Apr 26, 2014 7:54 PM

I rode by yesterday, there is structural steel above ground level...ALREADY, and the crane job is just massive. I will go by today to grab pics because this thing is going to shoot up so fast we will miss it if we don't pay attention.

timbad Apr 28, 2014 7:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simms3_redux (Post 6554886)
I rode by yesterday, there is structural steel above ground level....

I happened to be by today:

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2921/...72f9fc0f_b.jpg

simms3_redux Apr 28, 2014 3:11 PM

Damn, beat me to it! :) I've been traveling, so I'll eventually get around to uploading lol

Thanks!

minesweeper Apr 29, 2014 2:19 AM

SFHog has some new photos showing the below-grade steel as well:

http://www.sfhog.com/linkedin-towers...-street-level/

peanut gallery Apr 29, 2014 4:27 AM

Funny how this was waiting for a crane for so long, then--bam--steel! Were they dragging their feet a little to hedge their bet until a tenant was signed on? Or perhaps other circumstances played a part.

simms3_redux May 9, 2014 6:21 AM

This one is FAST:

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/a...psde1d2aa8.jpg

Huge jib on that crane!

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps5a05ccf1.jpg

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/a...psa67bc5db.jpg

timbad May 20, 2014 7:31 AM

still flying... from Sunday

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2940/...0eab2ea4_b.jpg

simms3_redux Jun 3, 2014 4:31 PM

Sunday evening (June 1):

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/a...pse9a794e0.jpg

timbad Jul 10, 2014 4:53 AM

south up Second

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2901/...7be1081d_b.jpg

west up Howard

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5561/...c804a9f7_b.jpg

minesweeper Jul 10, 2014 3:37 PM

Wow, this one is hauling ass. It looks like they added about 8 floors in 5 weeks. Even though this one started about six months after 350 Mission, it's essentially caught up with it in height. With only about 12 (smaller) floors left to go, this could be topped out by the end of August. Thanks for the photos, timbad!

Here's some new info about the $1 million worth of public art to be displayed in the public lobby:

http://commissions.sfplanning.org/cp...d%20Street.pdf

minesweeper Jul 15, 2014 5:25 AM

It's not a very good photo, but the top of this building is now visible from Market & Montgomery:

http://i.imgur.com/xUmmMU7.jpg

mt_climber13 Jul 16, 2014 8:45 AM

Taken July 15
 
http://i.imgur.com/3I6dB9n.jpg

peanut gallery Jul 16, 2014 10:51 PM

One thing I've been looking forward to with the completion of this tower is that it will cover the ugly side of One Hawthorne when looking west. Mission accomplished:
Quote:

Originally Posted by timbad (Post 6648552)


1977 Jul 17, 2014 1:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peanut gallery (Post 6657644)
One thing I've been looking forward to with the completion of this tower is that it will cover the ugly side of One Hawthorne when looking west. Mission accomplished:

Couldn't agree more!

rriojas71 Jul 17, 2014 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peanut gallery (Post 6657644)
One thing I've been looking forward to with the completion of this tower is that it will cover the ugly side of One Hawthorne when looking west. Mission accomplished:

I thought the same thing myself. 👍

simms3_redux Jul 18, 2014 8:12 AM

Fireproofing on lower floors, so we'll likely see its skin soon, too; up to floor 16:

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps859901b1.jpg

simms3_redux Jul 22, 2014 6:28 PM

July 21

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps0335a8de.jpg

Lower section topped off, setback commences this week, as well as crane jump.

simms3_redux Aug 7, 2014 2:50 AM

They have glass up now on Floor 2. Also, this has surpassed the height of One Hawthorne by a few floors and can be seen from the West (and easily from the Bay Bridge). I won't be able to get pictures for a while, maybe someone else can?

This is an impactful building for the skyline.

cmak Aug 7, 2014 6:30 PM

from earlier this morning
http://i.imgur.com/TbSXZqc.jpg

and you can see the top of it peeking out from the SF MoMa construction
http://i.imgur.com/B0Y16Ok.jpg

simms3_redux Aug 8, 2014 10:09 PM

Thanks..you can kinda tell there are a few glass panels up on the 2nd floor facing E/NE (2nd St).

1977 Aug 9, 2014 7:51 PM

SFHog posted some pictures of the glass - looking good.

http://www.sfhog.com/wp-content/uplo...-08-2014-1.jpg

http://www.sfhog.com/wp-content/uplo...-08-2014-4.jpg

http://www.sfhog.com/wp-content/uplo...-08-2014-5.jpg
Source and more pictures: http://www.sfhog.com/222-second-stre...ress-aug-2014/

Design-mind Aug 10, 2014 2:07 AM

Agree the glass is look phenomenal. Also love the overlapping of each piece of cladding.

peanut gallery Aug 14, 2014 5:27 AM

Looks good so far. Can't wait to see how it looks with several more floors in place.

viewguysf Aug 20, 2014 6:31 AM

222 Mission has now completed the wall in this direction from my dentist's office on the 21st floor of 450 Sutter--I wish it were taller!

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3866/...e11cfaa3_h.jpg222 Second Completing the Wall by viewguysf, on Flickr

simms3_redux Aug 24, 2014 8:19 PM

Nearly topped off:

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6245b97f.jpg

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/a...psd699cc2a.jpg

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps980e3076.jpg

fflint Aug 25, 2014 9:59 PM

Also from yesterday, sorry about the crappy quality. I need a new phone.

Were we all out there taking pics yesterday? :cheers:

From the site of 350 Mission and over the Transbay Tower/Terminal site:
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3874/...df7e2546_b.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3852/...31acb5fc_b.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5586/...94694441_b.jpg

timbad Aug 25, 2014 10:11 PM

k, I'll get in on the party... here looking from 4th and Folsom past the Central Subway construction, 222 Second peeks out over the wall

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5582/...1877713c_b.jpg

similar angle, from inside Yerba Buena Gardens (bonus of SFMOMA addition)

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3906/...b3213027_b.jpg

peanut gallery Aug 27, 2014 7:43 PM

Perhaps more than the other new buildings going up, you have to see this one in person to appreciate the impact it makes. It's only 350' but it feels taller than that since everything immediately surrounding it is shorter. It really commands your attention from street level in the neighborhood.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3909/...9d28af17_b.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3873/...d4644767_b.jpg

Looking west down Howard, which is probably its least flattering angle:
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3916/...138fb19b_b.jpg

The glass is beautiful and almost reads as black. Way back, I thought this was going to look very similar to 555 Mission, but there's no chance of that. The glass and massing are totally different:
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5552/...8043a77b_b.jpg

Notice how the glass along Second extends beyond the skin on Howard:
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3859/...ab171613_b.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3860/...78722259_b.jpg

fflint Aug 27, 2014 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peanut gallery (Post 6707862)
Perhaps more than the other new buildings going up, you have to see this one in person to appreciate the impact it makes. It's only 350' but it feels taller than that since everything immediately surrounding it is shorter. It really commands your attention from street level in the neighborhood.

Agreed--because of the smaller scale of nearby buildings, in person this tower seems massive, both up close and also on the skyline. I think this is a game-changer for the area.

It it were being built in the heart of the financial district, it might not be noticeable.

simms3_redux Aug 28, 2014 12:51 AM

I thought it was actually 370 ft? Only 10 ft shorter than 535 Mission... Either way, not "tall", but actually still one of the absolute tallest office towers going up in the entire country right now since everything everywhere is residential! I agree that in person from many angles it also appears very tall, from street level and about 1-2 blocks away. It doesn't really seem to have a large impact on the skyline, though.

minesweeper Aug 28, 2014 4:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simms3_redux (Post 6708364)
I thought it was actually 370 ft? Only 10 ft shorter than 535 Mission...

Yep, 350' to the roof and 370' to the top of the mechanical screening. From the planning department:

Quote:

The finished roof of the Project will reach a height of 350 feet. Rooftop mechanical equipment, elevator penthouses, and associated screening will reach a height of 370 feet. Pursuant to Section 260(b)(1), these features are exempt from the applicable height limit. The Project Sponsor has requested a Zoning Map Amendment and a General Plan Amendment to change the applicable height limit on the westerly portion of the property from the 150-S to the 350-S Height and Bulk District. These amendments will make the height limit for this westerly portion consistent with the remainder of the Project Site.

simms3_redux Aug 28, 2014 5:49 AM

^^^which for all intents and purposes is 370 ft. If a spire is officially counted as height, then the official height of this building is 370 ft.

Also, SF defines a roof as essentially the ceiling height of the top floor. The rest of the world defines a roof as a roof + physical structure/extension of facade (basically anything less than spire, antenna, or decorative element that isn't entirely structural).

Many of the country's buildings would be 30-100 ft shorter in SF if they were located here and used local definitions for height.

edwards Aug 29, 2014 4:07 AM

The signing of the final beam (from steelblue's LinkedIn)

http://i.imgur.com/SeoB5ARl.jpg

minesweeper Aug 29, 2014 4:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edwards (Post 6710302)
The signing of the final beam (from steelblue's LinkedIn)

Wow! This one went up really fast.

Going back one page, the first steel popped out of the site in late-April, so it only took four months to go from ground level to topped out. 26 floors in 18 weeks is almost 1.5 floors per week.

timbad Sep 22, 2014 5:29 AM

from Moscone Center North, so looking east down Howard:

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3890/...3c799a2a_b.jpg

botoxic Oct 9, 2014 4:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a very long weekend (Post 6761347)
also, here are a couple view of 222 second:

from second
http://i.imgur.com/3TN20b6.jpg?1

from howard
http://i.imgur.com/bWJ8Ww9.jpg?1

close up of the cladding
http://i.imgur.com/sGWinpP.jpg?1

I didn't realize the delineation of the sections would be achieved by altering the angles of the glass panels - it's a pretty cool effect that makes the building much more interesting than it otherwise would have been.

simms3_redux Oct 13, 2014 8:09 AM

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2947/...803a9cdb_c.jpgSan Francisco Early October 2014 017 by simms3sf, on Flickr

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2949/...7310fd6e_c.jpgSan Francisco Early October 2014 024 by simms3sf, on Flickr

simms3_redux Nov 3, 2014 5:58 AM

Glass going up slowly:

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps50b1753d.jpg

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps44ae7285.jpg

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps30f758af.jpg

david_h Dec 11, 2014 7:08 PM

Installing windows yesterday - looks like they do two at a time. They're about half way up.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7573/...90a8c759_c.jpg by sfbldg, on Flickr

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7545/...3defabf6_c.jpgUntitled by sfbldg, on Flickr

fflint Dec 11, 2014 11:30 PM

Work took me to a building across the streets from 222 Second, and maybe it was the cloudy sky, but the skin looks much darker than I realized--by far the blackest of the new towers.

Smashing Alligator Dec 14, 2014 10:21 PM

12/13/2014

It looks like the strong winds last week tore up the plastic covering.

http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/ad8...hxrqnhjfzg.jpg

edwards Feb 1, 2015 2:31 AM

01.30.2015

http://i.imgur.com/xWyBVUj.jpg

mthd Feb 2, 2015 6:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fflint (Post 6840518)
Work took me to a building across the streets from 222 Second, and maybe it was the cloudy sky, but the skin looks much darker than I realized--by far the blackest of the new towers.

i'm definitely a proponent of some variation in materials, and the heavily tinted glass here is clearly an effort to emphasis the shingling of the skin (less transparent = more reading of the surface form)........ but this guy is turning out REALLY dark. this and NEMA will probably result in planning reviving the general plan's requirement for "light-colored materials."

http://www.431.org/ssp/2044-222second-1024.jpg
http://www.431.org/ssp/2062-222second-1024.jpg

(photos by me, a while ago.)

fimiak Feb 4, 2015 5:43 PM

http://i.imgur.com/JvpWigQ.jpg

cv94117 Feb 4, 2015 6:07 PM

There are cool things about this building, but overall I'm underwhelmed. And the massing is weird. I don't get it.

mt_climber13 Feb 4, 2015 6:35 PM

Massing is a result of the planning department.

I like the blackness. SF could use more bold towers.


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