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Keep-SA-Lame May 19, 2016 8:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sirkingwilliam (Post 7447461)
I'm sorry, but no. This development does not resemble sugarland town center. If any development in SA resembled Sugarland Town Center, it'd be the Rim or on a smaller scale Legacy.

I'm sorry, but that comparison is just hyperbolic rubbish imo.

If you would read my comments I said it was a combination of Sugarland and the Pearl It has a lot of elements of both, positive and negative. Also, I said very explicitly that overall this is a positive project for the south side.

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Just be thankful that an abandoned brewery is being transformed
I have said this here before, but I used to work for a time in economic development, and I get so sick and tired of the constant blind boosterism and cheerleading in this town (I'm looking at you, Rivard Report). Not every new development is necessarily positive, and I think this one in particular has some issues to work out.

Spoiler May 19, 2016 8:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sirkingwilliam (Post 7447469)
And you are more than allowed to.

Thanks!

Trillhippy210 May 19, 2016 8:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Keep-SA-Lame (Post 7447481)
If you would read my comments I said it was a combination of Sugarland and the Pearl It has a lot of elements of both, positive and negative. Also, I said very explicitly that overall this is a positive project for the south side.



I have said this here before, but I used to work for a time in economic development, and I get so sick and tired of the constant blind boosterism and cheerleading in this town (I'm looking at you, Rivard Report). Not every new development is necessarily positive, and I think this one in particular has some issues to work out.

What kind of issues?

sirkingwilliam May 19, 2016 8:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Keep-SA-Lame (Post 7447481)
I have said this here before, but I used to work for a time in economic development, and I get so sick and tired of the constant blind boosterism and cheerleading in this town (I'm looking at you, Rivard Report). Not every new development is necessarily positive, and I think this one in particular has some issues to work out.

I agree. I am not a fan of blind boosterism either. But, in all sincere honesty, the only real issue you seem to take with this development is grounded in an established bias.

SA is a car centric city and any modern day development will always address that. Be it an urban or suburban development.

AwesomeSAView May 19, 2016 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 7447410)
After all the hype, it's disappointing how mundane this development looks. There are opportunities to develop this in a more urban way but that is not evident in this plan. This is designed like a suburban shopping center when it could have been designed like an actual "district".


It is a pattern of negativity with certain people on this forum.
It is a very "obvious" pattern.
How truly sad that is.
I just hope their lives get better.
:shrug:

Make it a GREAT day!! :yes:

Spoiler May 19, 2016 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AwesomeSAView (Post 7447636)
It is a pattern of critical thinking and holding development to a higher set of standards with certain people on this forum.
It is a very "obvious" pattern.
How truly useful that is.
I recognize that their personal lives have no relevance to their opinions on urban development, and to comment about their personal lives comes very close to engaging in ad hominem attack.
:shrug:

Make it a GREAT day!! :yes:

I agree.

AwesomeSAView May 20, 2016 2:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 7447695)
I agree.


Too funny!
But too defensive.

That's my constructive opinion.:cheers:

RyanfromTexas May 20, 2016 10:49 AM

I for one agree with SKW here. This looks great and is consistent with expectations for an adaptive reuse project for this area in this city at this time. The complaint here is that they still haven't found a solution for the scrap metal recycling facility next door. That facility is impossible to avoid. It is the only front door to this place. You must drive past it to enter. It is a non-starter. Without a solution this project will not launch as evidenced by decades of failed launches citing that recycling plant's inability to be relocated.

The Model May 23, 2016 5:49 AM

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/o.../130582373.jpg

This area has so much potential, viewing from above.

RyanfromTexas May 23, 2016 11:21 AM

Great picture Raul! And thanks for cutting out that scrap metal plant! I wonder if this does get going, if the developers will start scooping up and bidding up the surrounding properties much like Silver ventures has done with the Pearl....

The Model May 25, 2016 3:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanfromTexas (Post 7450306)
Great picture Raul! And thanks for cutting out that scrap metal plant! I wonder if this does get going, if the developers will start scooping up and bidding up the surrounding properties much like Silver ventures has done with the Pearl....

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/o.../130640166.jpg

You mean this place?

RyanfromTexas May 25, 2016 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Model (Post 7452418)

:) It's so ugly yet your pictures are so purty!

RyanfromTexas Aug 11, 2016 2:43 AM

http://therivardreport.com/ambitious...-star-brewery/


This is the first time I've seen any conceptual renderings. Looks a lot like the Pearl. I hope it can have the same effect for Southtown!

Bigfoot Yancey Aug 11, 2016 11:11 PM

I like it a lot. Hope they can be successful renting space and get it underway soon.

wwmiv Aug 11, 2016 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigfoot Yancey (Post 7528440)
I like it a lot. Hope they can be successful renting space and get it underway soon.

Oh they'll be successful. San Antonio's market can handle it and there are plenty of retailers that should be in San Antonio that aren't yet as well as locals that could expand to new locations.

kornbread Oct 6, 2016 5:58 AM

Lone Star Brewery Unveils First Major Tenants
 
Author: DANIEL KLEIFGEN
THE RIVARD REPORT
Date: 5 October, 2016 at 17:32
http://therivardreport.com/lone-star...major-tenants/

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Though still uncertain, the Lone Star Brewery District‘s character came into clearer focus Tuesday with the announcement of two future tenants – an international movie theater chain and an expanding, Denver-based bar and restaurant that targets Millennials with vintage games and a “dirty modern” feel.

“We are thrilled to announce Cinemark and Punch Bowl Social as the first major tenants at the Lone Star Brewery District,” CBL Properties & Associates, Inc. Vice President of Development David Neuhoff stated in an email. “Both of these exciting entertainment venues fill a void in the Southtown market and fit perfectly with our vision of providing San Antonio with an unparalleled entertainment, retail, and dining experience.”
I understand that San Antonio is movie going city, but a 10 screen theater on that site feels like a bad fit. Especially with the nearby arts influenced areas of Blue Star and South Flores. If it was maybe a smaller scale, a place that hosted local film festivals, or somehow supported local industry then maybe. Otherwise, to me, these 2 tenants give it a strip mall feel.

Spoiler Oct 6, 2016 5:07 PM

I'm afraid Lone Star is gonna be more like the Quarry or the Rim than like the Pearl.

jaga185 Oct 6, 2016 6:09 PM

I kind of wish it was Alamo Drafthouse that was going in there. They have special events and such, could have been fun.

RyanfromTexas Oct 6, 2016 9:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jaga185 (Post 7585840)
I kind of wish it was Alamo Drafthouse that was going in there. They have special events and such, could have been fun.

This.:cheers:

sirkingwilliam Oct 6, 2016 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 7585743)
I'm afraid Lone Star is gonna be more like the Quarry or the Rim than like the Pearl.

In terms of tenants, maybe. Though I believe it'll be more a hybrid of those two and the Pearl.

But, it won't be either of those two in terms of its design, its look and its feel.


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