CHICAGO | Waterview Tower | 1,047' Official / 1,035' Roof | 89 FLOORS |NEVER BUILT
 

here's a link to the last page of the old thread: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...=41986&page=81

Well, I guess I will need to change my diagram now. Any idea at all where the extra height is added in?

Even from the renderings it is hard to get the real impact this baby will have on the skyline.. especially from the west.. will be huge.

A few more shots from Sunday 11/12

View of the site and the installation of the tower crane from the 35th floor of the LaSalle-Wacker Building - 2006-11-12
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/t.../11/499549.jpg

Installing components to the tower crane as seen from the LaSalle-Wacker Building - 2006-11-12
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/t.../11/499553.jpg

View from the northeast into the core area - 2006-11-12
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/t.../11/499545.jpg

NICE Updates, when does the additional excavation start?

^ im still in awe at the tiny size of that plot of land. they are building a supertall on a quarter of a block! can that tower crane even fully rotate at the height its at? insane!

At it's current height. I don't believe that it can fully rotate unless the boom is on an angle, and I can't remember if it is.

Also Steely, I hate to ask, but until I see the blueprints again, I'd like the height on the thread to remain 1,047'.

The other person that I contacted at Teng said the height hadn't changed, so until I get a visual confirmation by looking at the prints, I will be conservative and say it's better to keep the old 1,047' height.

Didn't mean to jump the gun or anything, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

I cant wait till this thing starts going vertical, seems like they've been in that hole forever. Any chance it could catch up to Trump at some point, seeing as how its got a lot less square footage?

Does anyone here know the actual dimentions of the lot size? It doesn't look like much more than 150 feet on the east side.

It won't be catching Trump.

Overall footprint: ~23,000sf
Core footprint: ~4,100sf

Structure won't be to Upper Wacker until about May 07

I guess the lot is about the size of or smaller than a typical suburban McMansion lot.

There are many suburbs that wouldn't allow even a single family house to be built on a lot that size.

Welcome to Chicago, where we try to utilize our assets and not waste them...:)

PSH! Tell me about it! I grew up in the county just north of Milwaukee, one of the ten richest by per capita income in the US, where the average lot size had to be at least 4 or 5 acres!

Laid on its side, can you imagine, with parking lots, how much land a supertall like Waterview would concern in the burbs? Land use and visual impact are strong arguements for building vertical. Oh, some areas in Oconto County, WI require 10 plus acres for per house (much to the shagrin of developers!) :rolleyes:

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Well, and questions currently about the height of this buildings now have been put to rest as far as I am concerned. Waterview Tower went back before the plan commission for a small increase in the FAR. The height of the building hasn't changed. They are planning to add 2 more hotel rooms per floor. After the meeting I asked about the views from the rooms, because that area faces the Transportation Building and The LaSalle Wacker. The reply was that Shangri;La officials figured if you can have a hotel room facing a blank wall in New York with no problems, why not here too? Or something to that affect. Afterwards, I became the proud owner the the presentation boards:) , which included a floor overview and nice rendering as you can see. They just gave me the boards, and I certainly appreciate that. Fuck, who are you kidding? I'm going to get these bitches framed when I get a chance.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...1/P1050788.jpg

Yes, that dude from the Union was there to oppose the project. Commissioner Natarus asked him if he realized that the building was already under-cxonstruction and he said yes. It was pretty much a non-issue.

Here's the floor overview for Waterview Tower. Those of you who bought units can now find out how high you are actually living.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...1/P1050781.jpg
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I'm also sure that someone is going to comment that the diagram shows 88 floors. Well, if you count the mezzanine level 1M and the roof, then you get 90.

This one I am truly excited about. It reminds me of myself. Tall, thin, and well.... light colored.

So, according to the elevations above, roof is 1012ft and screen wall is 1035?

What an exciting project.:cheers:

this is the kind we like to see. thin and tall.
when construction hits that upper thin section it should really shoot up

BVic, left you a pm.

Is it possible to accurately guess the ceiling heights from this diagram?

any updates

Does anyone have any new photos of the construction progress?

nothing new to see. relax people, we are in the stages of construction where changes come slowly, and there's no need for a photo everyday. once the building is above ground, you will see photo updates more often.

Question - look at the pic above and then look at the pic on the first posting of this thread. Is that first one (first post) a bad pic OR did they thicken the tower at some point (or is it a bad pic)? If you look closely at the left pic in the right picture, there are two shades of gray - and the darker alone looks like what is in the first posting. Is the lighter gray the thicker tower?

Maybe this was discussed and I missed it?

I think that the lighter gray is the diagonal face of the building, which you cannot see very well in the rendering on page 1.

The tower is a wedge -- on page 1 you see a thin side of the wedge, and the picture above is a thick side.

the left hand diagram is the far end of the tower not seen in the photo and yes it is a slight wedge...

Anyone have any new photos?

It looks like this one is at the same exact phase as Freedom Tower.

^ according to victor, they're gonna be tooling around in the ground until next spring, so don't expect frequent photo updates until then because not much is visually changing at the site right now.

^^ that's not true http://www.teng.com/waterview/flash_...indextest.html

11-30-2006
 

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/t.../12/502972.jpg
Looking north across the site

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/t.../12/502973.jpg
Shear Wall formwork and rebar

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/t.../12/502975.jpg
Looking down from the fourth floor of the adjacent parking garage within the 203 North LaSalle Building

Just wondering where you took that photo.

Was it from the parking garage just to the south of the site?

^The Alley along the south end of the site. A scaffold went up over it, and a section of the perimeter fence was removed as result, making it easier to snap a pic from this angle.

^ OMG, the core's about to go vertical!

Boy, that is a rare (and last-ever) elevation view of Wacker Drive from the south.

Right.
I bet that it'll rise faster than TTC.

you'd lose that bet. as I mentioned before, they aren't going to pass Trump Tower. Trump has too big of a head start for them to catch up. and the core isn't going verticle yet. have we all forgot they they still have hell of a lot of soil to excavate out from around the core? they have to go down 4 floors and then build that space back up.

it's not going to bass or catch Trump.

I think Fabb might just have meant that once it does begin to rise it will go up faster than Trump has been going up, not that it will nessisarily catch up with it.

that's kind of a given. it's half the size

That's why I was saying... All right, it was obvious since it's half the size.
But, will it rise twice as fast ?

why wouldn't the core go vertical that is what is happening at block 37 and it doesn't look like they have excavated at all

BVic, you're saying that they're basically stopping work on building up the core until the surrounding excavation is done?

I'm not sure Bvic is trying to say that. He doesn't know exactly how they are going to build it, but he can probably give a pretty good guess as to what they will do. I bet the core will continue to rise, but not as fast as it is now.

If you look at how fast they have been building that core, if the sides move anywhere as quickly, they will catch up with the core quite quickly.

I believe that they might build the core up to upper Wacker, but not beyond until the excavation work and building up of lower levels is complete.

don't know. I believe it's because the Block 37 building will be steel. Remember when they were working on MoMo in the early stages? The cores got pretty far beyond the rest of the structure, until the structure switched from steel framing to concrete. Now the cores are like 2 floors higher than the rest of the structure.

That would make sense, look at Comcast Center in Philly, the exact same thing, the core is way ahead of the steel.

So even if Waterview doesn't break street level until they get the rest of the foundation underway, we are still going to have an interesting few weeks because, if what Bvic said ends up being the case, then they should be getting pretty close to starting to excavate the rest of the site.

were did you get these pic's from, could you post the link ?

:previous: He might have taken them. He lives in Chicago according to his location.

He took the photos himself. Thee majority of the pictures that you'll see in the Chicago threads were taken by individual who work, live or play downtown. You'll hardly get any third party images here...

December 7, 2006

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I dunno Bvic, once they pour the concrete on the rebar they have up already, the core will be pretty close to level with Wacker. All they need is one more level and Waterview will be pretty clearly above the street level. Maybe they'll keep working on the core as they continue excavating the sides, I don't see why they wouldn't do that.