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jb111120 Mar 20, 2024 8:59 PM

Same-Sex Couple Households in Cities Across the US
 
The Oregon Office of Economic Analysis put together some statistics regarding same-sex couples, home ownership, etc. for the Oregon Realtors Fair Housing Summit last month. It includes a ranking of cities by % of same-sex couple households. Full article: https://oregoneconomicanalysis.com/2...ex-households/

It's interesting to see the interplay of different demographics and regional trends.

https://i.imgur.com/slt6DRc.png

Steely Dan Mar 20, 2024 9:22 PM

I'm curious what "public use micro data" means because "Chicago city north" is a meaningless geographic descriptor within Chicago.

At its most generous, the "north side of Chicago" encompasses over 50 sq. miles and some 1.2M people. Surely that 5.7% figure listed on the chart is for a much smaller area.

iheartthed Mar 20, 2024 9:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 10169051)
I'm curious what "public use micro data" means because "Chicago city north" is a meaningless geographic descriptor within Chicago.

At its most generous, the "north side of Chicago" encompasses over 50 sq. miles and some 1.2M people. Surely that 5.7% figure listed on the chart is for a much smaller area.

I was wondering about that too. It looks like they rely on well defined neighborhoods in some cities and generalized areas of a cities for others. It's especially odd because the same sex household percentages by both state and metro areas don't seem to vary that much from place to place, so you would expect a similar level of concentrating in different metros. Otherwise, this is suggesting that same sex households are more segregated in places like San Francisco and NYC than they are in Tampa or Louisville.

ChiSoxRox Mar 20, 2024 9:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 10169051)
I'm curious what "public use micro data" means because "Chicago city north" is a meaningless geographic descriptor within Chicago.

At its most generous, the "north side of Chicago" encompasses over 50 sq. miles and some 1.2M people. Surely that 5.7% figure listed on the chart is for a much smaller area.

Public Use Microdata Area is the (typically opaque) Census name for an area drawn to include around 150k people, effectively making mini-"House districts" of similar population across the country to aggregate local data.

There are three particular Chicago City North-named districts, so the source got sloppy in identifying which PUMA they're talking about. Presumably Lakeview/LP?

Chicago City (North)--West Ridge, Lincoln Square & North Center
Chicago City (North)--Uptown, Edgewater & Rogers Park
Chicago City (North)--Lake View & Lincoln Park

Tables for each state and maps of each PUMA are at this reference page.

Steely Dan Mar 20, 2024 9:48 PM

^ thank you!

And yeah, they gotta be referring to the Lakeview/Lincoln Park one.

tdawg Mar 23, 2024 3:08 PM

Nice to see Atlanta with two neighborhoods in the top 15. Must be Midtown and Decatur.

SteveD Mar 23, 2024 3:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tdawg (Post 10171082)
Nice to see Atlanta with two neighborhoods in the top 15. Must be Midtown and Decatur.

Probably. Although there's a whole east-west oriented gay streak marching across the metro...Grant Park, Ormewood Park, Glenwood Park, East Atlanta, Kirkwood, Inman Park, Old 4th Ward, Cabbagetown....all quite gay.

craigs Mar 23, 2024 9:42 PM

Remember, this isn't about "gay people" generally, it's about households with gay couples specifically. So neighborhoods where most gay residents are single won't be included in the chart.

SLCHenry Mar 24, 2024 5:26 AM

Great to see SLC on here!!!

xzmattzx Mar 24, 2024 5:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 10169051)
I'm curious what "public use micro data" means because "Chicago city north" is a meaningless geographic descriptor within Chicago.

At its most generous, the "north side of Chicago" encompasses over 50 sq. miles and some 1.2M people. Surely that 5.7% figure listed on the chart is for a much smaller area.

So is "Sussex East", which is basically part of a county. The reality is that they are referring to Rehoboth Beach and the surrounding beach sprawl. I guess the beach towns collectively form an informal metro area, and that was their best name for it.

Xing Mar 24, 2024 3:38 PM

I feel this data is always going to show more gay households in liberal cities, until gay men & women in rural (more conservative) states become more accepting.

As of now, there are probably millions of Americans still in the closet. Obviously we’ve made a lot of progress, but there’s still more to push for.

Yuri Mar 24, 2024 4:11 PM

Methodology is different, but according to the last National Health Survey published by Brazilian Statistical Office in 2022 bringing 2019 data, 2.9 million Brazilian adults (1.8%) declared they were homosexual or bisexual.

Amongst those between 18-29 y/o, the number is considerably higher, at 4.8%. Same for people with a college degree (3.2%) and with the highest income bracket (3.5%). The highest rate was in Southeast (2.1%) and the lowest in Northeast (1.5%). Amongst women, 0.9% declared they were lesbian and 0.8% bisexual; amongst men, 1.4% gay and 0.5% bisexual.

It was the first survey they conducted on that matter and it was very comprehensive (a sample of 108,525 households). They're studying already some modifications, such as the use of words "gay" and "lesbian" instead of "homosexual" and there's a project to collect data on trans people on the next editions.

pj3000 Mar 24, 2024 4:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveD (Post 10171123)
Probably. Although there's a whole east-west oriented gay streak marching across the metro...Grant Park, Ormewood Park, Glenwood Park, East Atlanta, Kirkwood, Inman Park, Old 4th Ward, Cabbagetown....all quite gay.

Surprised that Georgia Republicans haven't tried to crack down on this "gay streak marching"... sounds like an outrageously wild time! :haha:

SteveD Mar 25, 2024 1:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pj3000 (Post 10171594)
Surprised that Georgia Republicans haven't tried to crack down on this "gay streak marching"... sounds like an outrageously wild time! :haha:

hahaha yes I know.

LuluBobo Mar 25, 2024 2:23 PM

Doesn't this number seem a little low? Aren't about 5% of people LGBT, when you normalize across the age spectrum?

Or is just people declaring relationship status? So gay people not in a relationship are not represented in the table?

UrbanImpact Mar 25, 2024 3:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LuluBobo (Post 10171976)
Doesn't this number seem a little low? Aren't about 5% of people LGBT, when you normalize across the age spectrum?

Or is just people declaring relationship status? So gay people not in a relationship are not represented in the table?

From source: "This means the ACS data is for couples only, and is not about the overall population per se. "

JManc Mar 25, 2024 8:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The North One (Post 10172237)
So the data is basically useless since 80% of gay men don't do long term relationships. And even less live together.

I know it's anecdotal but pretty much every gay and lesbian I know of (typically over 40) are in long term committed relationships or married.

Yuri Mar 25, 2024 9:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JManc (Post 10172309)
I know it's anecdotal but pretty much every gay and lesbian I know of (typically over 40) are in long term committed relationships or married.

I agree with North: the large majority of gay men are single (my sample is mostly late 20’s up to 40. And the minority who is committed are in open relationships. From the top of my mind, I think in one couple only and I’m not even sure if it’s closed.

iheartthed Mar 25, 2024 9:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JManc (Post 10172309)
I know it's anecdotal but pretty much every gay and lesbian I know of (typically over 40) are in long term committed relationships or married.

Q: What does a lesbian drive to her second date?

A: A moving truck.

MonkeyRonin Mar 25, 2024 9:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The North One (Post 10172237)
So the data is basically useless since 80% of gay men don't do long term relationships. And even less live together.

The data isn't useless or misleading - it's a measurement of exactly what it says it is: the number of same-sex couple households. Not meant to be just a tally of the number of gay people.


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