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iheartphilly Mar 3, 2016 3:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Arch+Eng (Post 7357197)
I am thinking this building should be a mall, or at least have a floor or two of retail with it being right next to 30th St. Station.
http://i.imgur.com/nX29dpF.jpg

A major interior renovation to 30th St. Station needs to happen. It has such great potential to be an impressive gateway for rail commuters to and from Philly. It doesn't help in the impression department for those coming by rail to visit Philly or for those that use it to commute regularly. So much going on around this area, wish this would get some attention soon.

Philly Fan Mar 3, 2016 3:21 PM

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Originally Posted by McBane (Post 7357223)
700,000 sq ft of offices and labs for the first tower confirms that the first tower being built is the "short" reddish hued building next to the Cira II site. That building looks to be slightly shorter than the Cira Center which is 29 floors, 730,000 sq ft and 428 feet tall. So we can expect something in the realm of 25-28 floors and about 375 feet. One reason for Cira's height is the embellished roof design which the proposed tower lacks, so it will likely be under 400 feet.

Indeed, that has been explicitly identified as the site of the first tower to be built:

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Work on the first new construction project, a tower of labs and offices at the northeast corner of 31st Street and John F. Kennedy Boulevard, could start by early 2018.
Drexel outlines ambitious plans to build business-residential enclave

iheartphilly Mar 3, 2016 4:11 PM

This would be sexy skin for the tallest one in the group.

http://www.shoparc.com/wp-content/up.../12/w57_03.jpg

gttx Mar 3, 2016 6:51 PM

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Originally Posted by iheartphilly (Post 7357260)
A major interior renovation to 30th St. Station needs to happen. It has such great potential to be an impressive gateway for rail commuters to and from Philly. It doesn't help in the impression department for those coming by rail to visit Philly or for those that use it to commute regularly. So much going on around this area, wish this would get some attention soon.

It will - both new retail offerings and new passenger spaces. Unfortunately it just takes Amtrak much longer to get anything done. Drexel and Brandywine are much better, institutionally, at leading the charge.

You should go to the open house for the District Plan on March 16. There should be more details about the station and the rail yards development, beyond this first phase "Schuylkill Yards" (which isn't a rail yard at all).

gttx Mar 3, 2016 6:58 PM

For everyone's benefit, a few clarifications on points that have been raised....

- Cira II, Firestone, and the sites around Caneris/University Crossings are all shown in their existing condition. This is because the boundary of "Schuylkill Yards" does not include them, not because the plan is to leave them undeveloped. As has been mentioned, Cira II is still a possibility once Amtrak (who owns the site/rail below) gets its act together. There are obviously intentions for Firestone as well.

- The High Line isn't going anywhere. Park spaces and small buildings may go beneath the rail, but the rail itself will remain. There just isn't a realistic alternative for CSX to relocate its operations.

- The "Schuylkill Yards" name was also given to the broader rail yards development in a 2011 PennPlanning studio report. I don't think this is a coincidence. http://www.phillymag.com/property/20...e-penn-drexel/

br323206 Mar 3, 2016 7:29 PM

A minor thing, but cool in my opinion:

One thing that makes NYC cool is that it can seem like the city goes on forever when you look down streets. Currently, if you look down JFK in Philly it is obvious that the city "ends" beyond 30th Street Station. This will fill in that space and make you feel like the city fully envelopes you.

Knight Hospitaller Mar 3, 2016 7:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Swede (Post 7357110)
The motherland is proud that New Sweden is reaching new heights.
:)

/In all the lands ever part of or ruled by Sweden Philly already has the 6 tallest buildings.

Thanks, mom!

Knight Hospitaller Mar 3, 2016 7:31 PM

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Originally Posted by boxbot (Post 7357157)
I don't know. I feel the tower is...missing something. You know? Like it could be classier. More luxurious.

http://wischlist.com/wp-content/uplo...trump-sign.jpg

More gold!

TempleGuy1000 Mar 3, 2016 7:32 PM

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Originally Posted by br323206 (Post 7357737)
A minor thing, but cool in my opinion:

One thing that makes NYC cool is that it can seem like the city goes on forever when you look down streets. Currently, if you look down JFK in Philly it is obvious that the city "ends" beyond 30th Street Station. This will fill in that space and make you feel like the city fully envelopes you.

when is the last time you looked down JFK? Lancaster Square does exactly what you are suggesting: http://hiddencityphila.org/wp-conten...nb_jfkblvd.jpg

I agree these buildings could definitely enhance that feeling of "extending the city"

Knight Hospitaller Mar 3, 2016 7:33 PM

[QUOTE=japmes;7357170]
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Originally Posted by Justin7 (Post 7357144)
Higher res:

I like how the renderings emphasize the green space by making the trees almost fluorescent. Slick marketing. Hopefully the same sort of exaggeration wasn't used for the Supertall, making an 800' look like a 1200' just for effect.

The extra 400 feet is for the rooftop village.;)

Urbanthusiat Mar 3, 2016 7:34 PM

I mentioned it in the Development thread but I figured I'd toss it in here too:

I think the Bulliten building would be a great place for Carpenter Technology to locate its corporate HQ, as we recently heard it was looking to move from Reading to Philly. It seems like a good fit for the Drexel/corporate partnership thing they're going for since Carpenter could recruit business and engineering students from Drexel.

To further preach to the choir, I just love the potential of Philly and University City in particular. Having a strong innovation/knowledge economy really is a great way of sticking to the city's heritage as a center of culture and learning. If this gets built I have to imagine University City becomes the unrivaled second-best (after Cambridge of course) innovation district in the U.S. I can easily see Philly (re)emerging as the globally elite city it was always meant to be. The social and physical infrastructure of Center City is certainly on-par (and perhaps even better in certain areas) with that of NYC, Boston, Chicago, DC, San Fran, and LA - the only U.S. cities I would call "globally elite."

I'm also really excited about the Apple rumor. That'd be a HUGE boost in attracting other companies - who doesn't want to be close to one of the biggest companies in the world? I'll admit I had been fantasizing over the thought of "Google East" before the plan was even released, but I'll settle for Apple. Does anyone else like the sound of "Silicon Alley?" :tup:

Knight Hospitaller Mar 3, 2016 7:39 PM

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Originally Posted by br323206 (Post 7357737)
A minor thing, but cool in my opinion:

One thing that makes NYC cool is that it can seem like the city goes on forever when you look down streets. Currently, if you look down JFK in Philly it is obvious that the city "ends" beyond 30th Street Station. This will fill in that space and make you feel like the city fully envelopes you.

Agreed. Center City, except on S. Broad near city hall, and the densest areas on Walnut and Chestnut, always seemed very compact. The first time I ever felt that "Manhattan effect" was when I worked on Rittenhouse Square and the large Wharton "round tower" construction was becoming visible 20 blocks away. Those sorts of views are getting more noticeable in more directions.

tdawg Mar 3, 2016 7:48 PM

Amazing proposal! BTW Silicon Alley has been around for a very long time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Alley

br323206 Mar 3, 2016 8:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TempleGuy1000 (Post 7357745)
when is the last time you looked down JFK? Lancaster Square does exactly what you are suggesting: http://hiddencityphila.org/wp-conten...nb_jfkblvd.jpg

I agree these buildings could definitely enhance that feeling of "extending the city"

You're absolutely right that Lancaster Square helped out a lot. I was really excited about it for this same reason. But these added towers will really complete that view and exaggerate the effect.

Urbanthusiat Mar 3, 2016 8:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tdawg (Post 7357770)
Amazing proposal! BTW Silicon Alley has been around for a very long time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Alley

I had a feeling it was too clever and obvious to have not been used already. Sigh.

iheartphilly Mar 3, 2016 9:37 PM

The tallest looks to be 2.25-2.5x the size of Evo.

http://cdn.phillymag.com/wp-content/...3/IMG_0151.jpg

Boku Mar 3, 2016 9:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbanthusiat (Post 7357879)
I had a feeling it was too clever and obvious to have not been used already. Sigh.

Phillycon Valley
Schuylkillcon Valley
CheesesteakWithProvolone Valley
ZooBalloon Valley

C'mon, we can do this!

boxbot Mar 3, 2016 9:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Boku (Post 7357960)
Phillycon Valley
Schuylkillcon Valley
CheesesteakWithProvolone Valley
ZooBalloon Valley

C'mon, we can do this!

Silijawn Valley

Plokoon11 Mar 3, 2016 10:05 PM

I vote for Phillycon Valley: pronouncing it as Phila-con. It sounds better.

iheartphilly Mar 3, 2016 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Plokoon11 (Post 7358002)
I vote for Phillycon Valley: pronouncing it as Phila-con. It sounds better.

I dunno...get "con" in "Phila"...doesn't exactly convey trust in a business transaction...if an agreement or contract doesn't get signed even if the proposed transaction was bona fide...runaway:


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