This will also be "2 Hudson Boulevard".
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Are those two 12 story buildings at the corners of 34th street owned/leased from coach? I read somewhere that they lease space in several smaller office buildings around 34th street.
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Looks like the tower will be situated on the eastern side of the site, providing better views for both itself and the North Tower (Time Warner).
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With the addition of One & Two Hudson Boulevard, the entire site now has a similar configuration to the World Trade Center. The potential is definitely there for a 'spiral' of continuity between the office towers. Would not be surprised if KPF was pegged for both of these new towers, as they should compliment the HY North & South Buildings.
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Yes, they are moving forward with development plans here sooner than I would have expected with everything that currently has to be built over the railyards. But it makes more sense to move forward with plans for these sites because the subway station will be at the center of it all. Also, Related wants a "critical mass" of development, so the west side in general becomes more attractive. It's similar to what's taking shape with the WTC. The more you have open for business, the better it is for everyone.
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Isn't that the Mickey D's from Supersize Me?
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This is similar to the ESB when it comes to SqFt and lot size. ESB slightly bigger but I would imagine this could be a similar height and bulk.
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with the crazy good deal that they scored with the yards, the timeframe for the platform over the yards, the carrying costs they're likely looking at for this site (not including the coach building, which will be a money maker for years with all the towers going up around it), and the competition in the area (at least 2 non-related office towers along hudson + the 3 manhattan west towers), it makes a lot of sense to push this site before the north tower on the yards site. which is something i'd quite like, since the volume of office space built out in the far west side could well delay the demolition of some midtown east beauties by possibly a decade or more, along with potentially getting the 7 looped down to penn station.
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I find it hard to believe (well this is skyscraperpage so maybe I shouldn't be so surprised) that people here are worried about the loss of a freaking McDonald's drive thru (really?) and not a single mention of the loss of Coach's marvelous building.
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^ ?? because it's the midtown station for every line not coming from the north, and that extension of the 7 would feed commuters straight there.
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Not that the Coach building is great either (look at that blank wall below), but it is far more appropriate for Manhattan than a drive through. If I had to choose between the two, it's a no brainer. But just imagine this McDonald's in all it's glory still standing as the north tower opens just behind and above it...Yeah, not pretty at all. http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/152930066/original.jpg |
Once Penn station gets it's desperately needed rebuild, this neighborhood is going to be truly spectacular.
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I would frankly prefer to see the current Coach building stay too. This site has the luxury of being so big that even if the Coach building stays, the new tower would still have a 40,000 sqft footprint, quite big enough for a modern tower. And that tower would still be be on the eastern part of the site, as we've already seen indicated in preliminary plans.
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This is such great news. The transformation is this currently dumpy part of the city to a showstopper of a business district is nothing short of miraculous. |
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Related plans to have this completed by 2019, a year after the north tower's completion.
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I think the design for this one is a placeholder at best. It's further down the line. As you can see, it will be a massive building.
If the footprint is made smaller, as show here, that would only push the height up. But either way, we're talking about a new WTC. http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/152932560/original.jpg |
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As I've never seen this idea extrapolated to *any* building that has setbacks, how about this?
What if the architect took the vertical aspect of the stepback and somehow converted it to a multi-angular bay/bow window type of thing? Or take said vertical aspect and give it one angular bend, creating a semi-hexagonal kind of thing? To wit: | | > | | => | | ==> and so on.....Do you follow me? I think that if they do that, slim it up by at least 25%, lose the zig-zags and keep the facade as is with the railing-type additions, we've got a winner. |
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Consider the one hundred changes they've already made to the towers that are nearing construction, that placeholder won't be close to the finished product. If Sherwood gets around to developing its site just to the north, this area will be more dense than the WTC. |
Another look at the monster model...
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Flip it 180º to make the setbacked side parallel to North Tower's ob deck platform.
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Wow, that tower is absolutely a beast.
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I think the North Tower losing 80 feet is a fair exchange for 2 extra supertalls. 1 of them likely over 1100'. :)
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I think it will be oriented more to the east to protect views from both towers. But I've changed my mind on the footprint. I think it should cover the entire site and pull up to Hudson Boulevard, in keeping with the more dense Manhattan pattern. http://distilleryimage3.s3.amazonaws...a4bedf57_8.jpg Field Condition The massiveness of this tower dictates it should be taller than 30 HY. That would allow for a better looking tower, and it wouldn't look out of place being taller because of the Sherwood site directly north, which could be something similar to this: http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82041697/original.jpg Another look, taken from.... https://www.facebook.com/HudsonYardsNewYork http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/153668265/large.jpg http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/153668276/original.jpg |
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It is very bulky, yes. It looks to me that this tower is supposed to be at roughly the same height as the obs deck in the North tower, maybe they goofed slightly on the height when making the model, and it's supposed to be slightly shorter rather than slightly higher, because you're right, it would make no sense to make it just barely tall enough to block the views to the north for the obs deck.
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Guys its a place holder...and why not build an observation deck with an 1100-1300 foot tower next door? you still have the east,west and south. We can build this neighborhood around the height of an observation deck. If push comes to shove maybe 50 HY can have it instead. The deck shouldn't place any height limit on the area.
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The planning for this tower was put in place before the railyard plans came to be. It's always been planned to be the largest of the Hudson Yards towers along the boulevard, and could have been larger had City Planning gotten its way with unlimited FARs (the City Council put limits in the plan because they wanted some sort of control over what developers could build). Even before Related got involved with the railyards. Unlimited FAR planning for the "four corners" http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/153683819/original.jpg Max FAR given by the City Council http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/153683821/original.jpg http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/13/ny...ocks.html?_r=0 The Sky Is No Longer the Limit on Far West Side Buildings By DAVID W. DUNLAP January 13, 2005 Quote:
That was a quick recap. So we've known for a long time (along with Related) that this site would contain a very large tower. I guess its the first time visualizing it that leads to questions, but the deck is situated to over look Manhattan. It could have something to do with the engineering of it as well, but I don't know. Consider that if Manhattan West rose to 1,200 ft just to the east, it would be a similar situation. The tower could potentiall be designed so as not to interfere with views, but I think Related is more interested in protecting office views from both towers. Quote:
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Yeah, it's just a place holder. But now many are seeing what we've known - it will be a very large tower. Now just add the Girasole (3 HB) and Sherwood's tower to the model, and it will really drive home just how dense this area will be. edensutley http://distilleryimage9.s3.amazonaws...2048cdbc_8.jpg http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/153668276/original.jpg |
^This just reminded everyone in the world why they deep down, love new york city. ;)
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About this tower, I'm really intrigued how it turns out, will they go for a similar massing in order to maintain 30HY status as the tallest of the bunch or will they make it taller, hence making it the marquee tower? I'm rooting for the latter; guess time will tell. |
^ I would like that!
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which of those corners is the Girasole?
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^It isn't part of this master plan.
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This is the southeast corner, Girasole is the northwest corner... Here's a rough guide to what goes where. Ignore the Extell design for 55 HY, I left it in for reference. http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/153690342/original.jpg |
Good reference.
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