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gttx Apr 12, 2007 9:20 PM

ATLANTA | Mandarin Oriental Hotel | 700 FT / 213 M | 54 FLOORS
 
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...inoriental.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s.../mandarin2.jpg

Mandarin Oriental Hotel
1138 Peachtree St. (between the 1100 Peachtree building and the Atlanta Women's Club)

From the preliminary DRC meeting:

Floor Count: 54
Height: ~700 ft
Hotel: 190 rooms
Residences: 67
Parking: 6 levels
Spa: 3 floors
Hospitality: ballrooms, conference areas
Retail: 10,300 sf, probably along entire Peachtree St. frontage and perhaps on Crescent Ave.

RobMidtowner Apr 12, 2007 9:26 PM

^10,300 sf of Retail according to Midtown Alliance:

http://www.midtownalliance.org/Docum...Tour_07_04.pdf

MarketsWork Apr 12, 2007 9:27 PM

That is one very interesting building! Instead of a spire, the Mandarin appears to sport a crowning "blade" that cuts north-south in parallel with Peachtree Street. And the lower of those two funky angled protrusions creates a sort of awning over the front entrance. It's impossible to dislike the height or the density this shoe-horned project enhances. I like it.

gttx Apr 12, 2007 9:32 PM

I'd love to see the trademark Mandarin Oriental fan lit up on the top fin...

ClaySkyHigh Apr 12, 2007 9:42 PM

Wow !!!
 
I am impressed !! I like it. Tons of style !! More ellaberate than Chicagos' Version. That long line that comes to a curve at the bottom looks like it could be a cool roller coaster ride or free fall ride !!! lol, I love it. More style for the ATL Skyline when built !!!

Texas Tuff Apr 12, 2007 10:01 PM

Congrats!!! I like it!!!! Atlanta never ceases to amaze me. You guys seem to end up with some of the best looking projects in the country. That will look very nice along with the other signature towers in Atlanta's already impressive skyline.
:banana: :cheers:

Sulley Apr 12, 2007 10:05 PM

OMG, Atlanta! You've done it again!

micropundit Apr 12, 2007 10:15 PM

Now Hines has to really go big time to keep up with the Joneses.

holladay Apr 12, 2007 10:17 PM

Is this getting BUILT?? wow!

StevenW Apr 12, 2007 10:30 PM

Very nice! :yes:

Ersh Apr 12, 2007 11:18 PM

Very nice!!! I'd love to watch this one rise! :cheers:

gttx Apr 12, 2007 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by realm0854 (Post 2763130)
Is this getting BUILT?? wow!

It still needs to be approved by the city, but we can sure keep our fingers crossed! It would be excellent not only to have the tallest building built in Atlanta in probably 15 years, but to have it across the street from others that will get under way soon: the 2-block 12th and Midtown development that includes 3 40+ story buildings, the first phase of which is a 725,000 sq ft office tower and a hotel + condo mixed-use tower. Having these buildings, coupled with the towers already lining 14th Street, will make this area incredibly dense and certainly push the city towards its goal of creating an urban retail and destination district along Peachtree St. in Midtown.

Per its original DRC meeting, there are a few zoning variances that need to pass before approval, including impermeable surface coverage increasing from 85% to around 88.5%.

marcus Apr 12, 2007 11:27 PM

WOW! Another amazing project for Atlanta!

kazpmk Apr 12, 2007 11:47 PM

Looks nice!

mSeattle Apr 13, 2007 12:04 AM

Please build this beauty for all us who hate the mind-warfare boxes being built in our own cities (cough).

mexibone Apr 13, 2007 2:33 AM

wow. i'm LOVING this building! i really hope it gets done!

kardon Apr 13, 2007 3:08 AM

WOW...nice building. This area is going to be special...I just hope that the clubs in this area are able to stay, and not get pushed out by developers.

jlhopkins Apr 13, 2007 3:22 AM

it's great to see a new 700+ footer for atlanta, and i'm really liking this design.

alphawolf Apr 13, 2007 6:09 AM

props

gttx Apr 13, 2007 12:31 PM

From this morning's Atlanta Business Chronicle:

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s.../mandarin2.jpg

It mentions that they are still in talks with Mandarin Oriental, but that regardless it will be a 5-star hotel operator. Mandarin would seem natural, since they are moving their US headquarters to an office on 10th Street. Also, it provides a few more details:

Residences: From $1 million to over $10 million
Spa: Dramatic, 3-story spa starting on the 20th floor and overlooking the Atlanta skyline
Groundbreaking: Early 2008

Tombstoner Apr 13, 2007 12:41 PM

:previous: I have to say, I thought it was alright, but not loving it until I saw this illumination scheme. Looks like it will tie in nicely with the Symphony Tower. :tup:

shanthemanatl Apr 13, 2007 12:51 PM

Wow, how elegant. Simply gorgeous!

Thefigman Apr 13, 2007 1:03 PM

This is a beauty!

ThrashATL Apr 13, 2007 1:08 PM

The fin lighting is just as I imagined... the condos in this thing are going to be ground zero for high end living in midtown.

With this, 1180 and 50 Allen Plaza, the spire age is officially over.

RobMidtowner Apr 13, 2007 1:30 PM

Wow $10 million condos...that's a first for Atlanta. Do y'all think the market can support this?

tdawg Apr 13, 2007 1:30 PM

holy crap! that is an AMAZING building!!!

RobMidtowner Apr 13, 2007 1:31 PM

Crown jewel of Midtown Mile
Atlanta Business Chronicle - April 13, 2007by Jill Lerner FriedmanStaff Writer
Byron E. Small
Scott Leventhal: “We think the luxury market for that location of the Midtown Mile is great,” the developer says.
View Larger One of the most breathtaking additions to Atlanta's skyline in recent years will be a 700-foot-tall illuminated wave shooting into the sky.

The Mandarin Oriental will feature a dramatic three-story spa and residences topping $10 million.

Planned at 1138 Peachtree St. in Midtown -- a stone's throw from another still-new architectural gem, the King & Spalding tower -- the Mandarin will be the tallest structure built in the city in nearly 15 years.

"This building will be an icon and a treasure for the city to enjoy and will absolutely be the crown jewel of the Midtown Mile," said Scott Leventhal, CEO of Tivoli Properties Inc., which will develop the hotel and luxury condo tower.

Atlanta-based Smallwood, Reynolds, Stewart, Stewart & Associates Inc., whose other hotel projects include the Ritz-Carlton Jakarta and the Westin Grand Bohemian Hotel, is the designer.

The Mandarin will join a swell of new high-end hotel and condo projects including Trump Towers Atlanta, St. Regis, The Mansion on Peachtree, the W Atlanta Downtown Hotel & Residences and Sovereign in Buckhead.

The 50-story tower will front Peachtree Street, between the 1100 Peachtree office tower and the Atlanta Woman's Club, just south of the intersection of 14th Street and Peachtree.

The building will have around 200 luxury hotel rooms, 70 residential units, a three-story spa and six stories of above-ground parking.

The space allotted the hotel and residences will be about equal.

A small street lobby off Peachtree opens to a shared lobby and internal motor court.

The main hotel lobby will be several floors up from the street.

There will also be an auto entrance on Crescent Avenue.

Leventhal said Atlanta-based Tivoli, which is also developing condo properties Aqua in Midtown and Mezzo in South Buckhead, has been in discussions with Mandarin Oriental for a long time, but he would not confirm the hotel operator has signed on to the project.

He added that the flag that ultimately flies from the building will definitely be a five-star operator.

Hong Kong-based Mandarin Oriental, known for its fan logo and five-star luxury, is in the process of moving its U.S. development offices to Atlanta from New York City, and is relocating at 10 10th Street, at 10th and West Peachtree streets, not far from 1138 Peachtree.

One of the most distinctive amenities at the property will be a three-story spa, 20 stories up, that will be suffused with natural light and awash in views of the Atlanta skyline.

"This will be one of the most dramatic spas in the world," Leventhal said.

The residences, which will average 3,000 square feet, will range from more than $1 million to more than $10 million.

"We think the luxury market for that location of the Midtown Mile is great," he said.

Although Atlanta is teeming with luxury condo projects, Mandarin Oriental may have an edge.

In February, more than 90 percent of the luxury condos at CityCenter's Mandarin Oriental Las Vegas sold in 14 days, generating more than $600 million, according to MGM Mirage, developer of the CityCenter community.

The Mandarin Oriental Las Vegas will feature roughly 227 condo units situated atop a 400-room hotel tower.

Tivoli has amassed an impressive record of its own -- and equally impressive funding partners -- since its founding in 2004.

The 84-unit Aqua is more than 90 percent sold and Leventhal expects to be sold out in the next two months.

Prices range from the $400,000s to $1.8 million, and the first units will deliver in August.

Mezzo, which just opened its sales office and will be completed next year, features 94 units in the same price range as Aqua.

Developer Jorge Perez, CEO of Miami-based The Related Group, and John Williams, founder of Atlanta-based apartment developer Post Properties Inc. (NYSE: PPS), are equity investors in Mezzo; and Perez has bought the first unit.

As for the Mandarin, Leventhal said he hopes to begin construction in the beginning of 2008 and deliver and open the building in fall 2010.

gttx Apr 13, 2007 1:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobMidtowner (Post 2764589)
Wow $10 million condos...that's a first for Atlanta. Do y'all think the market can support this?

Condos at The Mansion on Peachtree are from $2.5 to $12.5 million. This is, more specifically, a first for Midtown. Some of the residences at the Four Seasons are pretty expensive, though...

RobMidtowner Apr 13, 2007 1:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gttx (Post 2764605)
Condos at The Mansion on Peachtree are from $2.5 to $12.5 million. This is, more specifically, a first for Midtown. Some of the residences at the Four Seasons are pretty expensive, though...

Good point gttx, it'll be exciting to see this part of midtown in 5 years.

PremierAtlanta Apr 13, 2007 1:42 PM

This is a gorgeous building. While I won't say that spires in Atlanta are over, we are definitely in a different phase. Now if we could just get a 900ft tall building like the Trump World Tower I would be happy. This building along with all the other buildings going up in Midtown will surely make the choice between living in Buckhead or Midtown more difficult. :cool:

BANKofMANHATTAN Apr 13, 2007 1:49 PM

That'll look nice on the skyline, for sure!

SteveD Apr 13, 2007 2:07 PM

Wow. The changes coming, or already in progress, for Buckhead, Midtown, and Downtown...are astonishing. I think all three skyscraper clusters, 5 years from now, will simply be breathtaking. There's also a good chance, I believe, that in that time frame or not too much longer, Downtown and Midtown will appear to have substantially merged. The 12th to 17th street cluster, with 12th and Peachtree, 1180, and the proposed Trump/Mandarin/MetLife towers, will have Midtown supplanting Downtown and the premier skyline cluster, if that hasn't already happened.

PremierAtlanta Apr 13, 2007 2:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobMidtowner (Post 2764589)
Wow $10 million condos...that's a first for Atlanta. Do y'all think the market can support this?


I feel that the market can support such a lofty price tag. There will probably only be one or two at that price. Taking into consideration that Midtown has an amazing corporate presence (all the lawyers within walking distance), the increasing retail options, access to the subway, interstate access, access to some of the southeast best cultural options, great dining and two five star hotels....yes, this building and those units will sell well. It's great that they have limited the units to 70. This almost guarantees larger units. A necessity in that price range.

trvlr70 Apr 13, 2007 2:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobMidtowner (Post 2764589)
Wow $10 million condos...that's a first for Atlanta. Do y'all think the market can support this?

I think in time the market can and will absorb these prices. Mandarin, it seems, is pushing the prices that's for sure. The MO in Chicago, which in on the verge of breaking ground, has residences that are selling for as high as $23 million and surprisingly there are higher in the city. So, I definitely think Atlanta can handle these prices.

I need to see a better render of the tower, however. I'm not convinced yet. I hope this one is spectacular since Atlanta got screwed over with the Trump design, IMHO.

BANKofMANHATTAN Apr 13, 2007 3:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gttx (Post 2763006)
I'd love to see the trademark Mandarin Oriental fan lit up on the top fin...

and here you go...

the fans give it an interesting "crown" feature from the side angle.

a little reminiscent of BOA, Charlotte

enjoy!

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5...rientalql2.jpg

gttx Apr 13, 2007 3:58 PM

Haha...that's kind of interesting. Although I just meant sticking the logo on the protruding fin thing, like they have on the Chicago building.

ThrashATL Apr 13, 2007 4:11 PM

A single fan/scallop might work well but all those "cooling fins" would be hideous on the skyline. Interesting photoshopping though, looks entirely legit in the rendering, nice job!

micropundit Apr 13, 2007 5:08 PM

Just saw the rendering on the cover of the ABC and this is hands down the premier high rise in the city. peroid. Just one thing in the article: Scott would not confirm a MO signing for 1138 Peach but promised a 5-star hotel. Hmmm.

micropundit Apr 13, 2007 5:12 PM

This is it!
 
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s.../mandarin2.jpg

Labtec Apr 13, 2007 5:44 PM

Wow, can't wait for it to be built. Last time I was excited was when I saw the 1180 proposal.

gttx Apr 13, 2007 5:44 PM

Heh....it's already posted at the beginning of this thread...

ATLmangum Apr 13, 2007 6:40 PM

By far the most impressing design of any on that are planned.

Aleks Apr 13, 2007 8:48 PM

its nice i like it why doesnt Seattle have a Mandarin Oriental?!?!
squigily!?!?

Stratosphere 2020 Apr 13, 2007 9:48 PM

Jaw dropping tower! I like the lightning. Must be the best proposed tower for Midtown since 1180 peachtree. Atlanta should approve this definately.:yes: :tup:

alleystreetindustry Apr 14, 2007 4:59 AM

holy damnit. this is amazing. i thought the market was at a mild slow down a couple months ago, but with all of these new projects coming up and recent articles i have read, it seems the market is just now starting, even though it really began to "boom" in 2000. damn. boy how i love atlanta.

Derek Apr 14, 2007 8:18 AM

love the tower, hate the base :(

smArTaLlone Apr 14, 2007 2:17 PM

Here's a Mandarin rendering from SRSSA

cabasse Apr 14, 2007 2:26 PM

i'm seriously in love with this.

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9...rds1138jj6.jpg

(^i took liberties, smartallone, and just swiped it right off their site)

SteveD Apr 14, 2007 2:46 PM

:previous: Wow...that lower right hand night rendering blows me away. A 700 ft shimmering blue/green and brilliant white slender beast...I love it.

GregBear24 Apr 15, 2007 12:32 AM

That's really cool/unique/refreshing. I really like this one and the one here in chi-town. Congrats to ATL.


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