Same-Sex Couple Households in Cities Across the US
 

The Oregon Office of Economic Analysis put together some statistics regarding same-sex couples, home ownership, etc. for the Oregon Realtors Fair Housing Summit last month. It includes a ranking of cities by % of same-sex couple households. Full article: https://oregoneconomicanalysis.com/2...ex-households/

It's interesting to see the interplay of different demographics and regional trends.

https://i.imgur.com/slt6DRc.png

I'm curious what "public use micro data" means because "Chicago city north" is a meaningless geographic descriptor within Chicago.

At its most generous, the "north side of Chicago" encompasses over 50 sq. miles and some 1.2M people. Surely that 5.7% figure listed on the chart is for a much smaller area.

I was wondering about that too. It looks like they rely on well defined neighborhoods in some cities and generalized areas of a cities for others. It's especially odd because the same sex household percentages by both state and metro areas don't seem to vary that much from place to place, so you would expect a similar level of concentrating in different metros. Otherwise, this is suggesting that same sex households are more segregated in places like San Francisco and NYC than they are in Tampa or Louisville.

Public Use Microdata Area is the (typically opaque) Census name for an area drawn to include around 150k people, effectively making mini-"House districts" of similar population across the country to aggregate local data.

There are three particular Chicago City North-named districts, so the source got sloppy in identifying which PUMA they're talking about. Presumably Lakeview/LP?

Chicago City (North)--West Ridge, Lincoln Square & North Center
Chicago City (North)--Uptown, Edgewater & Rogers Park
Chicago City (North)--Lake View & Lincoln Park

Tables for each state and maps of each PUMA are at this reference page.

^ thank you!

And yeah, they gotta be referring to the Lakeview/Lincoln Park one.

Nice to see Atlanta with two neighborhoods in the top 15. Must be Midtown and Decatur.

Probably. Although there's a whole east-west oriented gay streak marching across the metro...Grant Park, Ormewood Park, Glenwood Park, East Atlanta, Kirkwood, Inman Park, Old 4th Ward, Cabbagetown....all quite gay.

Remember, this isn't about "gay people" generally, it's about households with gay couples specifically. So neighborhoods where most gay residents are single won't be included in the chart.

Great to see SLC on here!!!

So is "Sussex East", which is basically part of a county. The reality is that they are referring to Rehoboth Beach and the surrounding beach sprawl. I guess the beach towns collectively form an informal metro area, and that was their best name for it.

I feel this data is always going to show more gay households in liberal cities, until gay men & women in rural (more conservative) states become more accepting.

As of now, there are probably millions of Americans still in the closet. Obviously we’ve made a lot of progress, but there’s still more to push for.

Methodology is different, but according to the last National Health Survey published by Brazilian Statistical Office in 2022 bringing 2019 data, 2.9 million Brazilian adults (1.8%) declared they were homosexual or bisexual.

Amongst those between 18-29 y/o, the number is considerably higher, at 4.8%. Same for people with a college degree (3.2%) and with the highest income bracket (3.5%). The highest rate was in Southeast (2.1%) and the lowest in Northeast (1.5%). Amongst women, 0.9% declared they were lesbian and 0.8% bisexual; amongst men, 1.4% gay and 0.5% bisexual.

It was the first survey they conducted on that matter and it was very comprehensive (a sample of 108,525 households). They're studying already some modifications, such as the use of words "gay" and "lesbian" instead of "homosexual" and there's a project to collect data on trans people on the next editions.

Surprised that Georgia Republicans haven't tried to crack down on this "gay streak marching"... sounds like an outrageously wild time! :haha:

hahaha yes I know.

Doesn't this number seem a little low? Aren't about 5% of people LGBT, when you normalize across the age spectrum?

Or is just people declaring relationship status? So gay people not in a relationship are not represented in the table?

From source: "This means the ACS data is for couples only, and is not about the overall population per se. "

I know it's anecdotal but pretty much every gay and lesbian I know of (typically over 40) are in long term committed relationships or married.

I agree with North: the large majority of gay men are single (my sample is mostly late 20’s up to 40. And the minority who is committed are in open relationships. From the top of my mind, I think in one couple only and I’m not even sure if it’s closed.

Q: What does a lesbian drive to her second date?

A: A moving truck.

The data isn't useless or misleading - it's a measurement of exactly what it says it is: the number of same-sex couple households. Not meant to be just a tally of the number of gay people.

Well yeah, where you as a somewhat older straight person with a white collar job will come across gay people they're much more likely to be sane lol. But the gays you find going out not so much.

Okay, well there's nothing really to infer from that. So it's boring data I guess.

A lot are, and I've noticed it being mostly older was well. But I know a lot who are not. Would be good to know the true percentages.

Here are two interesting articles that are not under a paywall I found that may clarify, although one has older data:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/329975/...ex-spouse.aspx


https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.e...s=true#density

Roughly one in ten. That’s a HUGE portion of the population unmarried and lonely. The social effects of which are HUGE.

There are more LGBT people married/living with people of the opposite sex (20.6%) than with same-sex (16.7%). And no surprise, the vast majority are single (50.5%) as opposed to 22.9% amongst straight people.

I guess it would be quite similar down here in Brazil/São Paulo.

First of all, it is ridiculous to declare that everyone who is not legally married is "lonely."

Second, gay and lesbian couples in most of the nation could not marry until 2015. What sort of massive, radical shift did you expect to see in marriage statistics in a mere nine years?

Third, we lost hundreds of thousands of American gay men to AIDS. They would have been among the oldest living cohorts of LGBT+ folks today. We will never know if, had they lived, they would have eventually settled into marriages (or civil unions, etc.) as they aged. The LGBT+ population skews young because of those deaths, and young people (gay and straight) are delaying marriage longer and longer.

My mom's cousin was in a same-sex relationship for 40+ years until his partner died about five years ago, he's in his mid-80's now and they were pretty lowekey about their relationship and had no interest in marrying even after Obergefell. One of my oldest friends (my age) has been in a relationship for about ten years and got married about 7 years ago and even she was pretty lowkey about broadcasting her marital status. Her family is a bunch of creeker rednecks...

That's no surprise. The majority of LGBT+ respondents in that poll identified as bisexual.

Coincidentally, Brazilian Statistical Office (IBGE) realeased today the numbers for marriages for 2022: 970,041 marriages (and 420,000 divorces) of which 11,022 were same-sex. An all-time high.

Since 2013, the year same-sex was legalized in the whole country, 70,642 same-sex marriages were performed in the country out of 10 million marriages during this period (2013-2022).

https://noticias.uol.com.br/cotidian...rcios-ibge.htm

I am a 78 year old single gay white male. I lost probably half of my similarly aged gay friends (at least 15-20 people that I knew very well and countless others that I knew casually) in the HIV catastrophe. Some of them were in relationships when they died. Others were single. Today I only have a half dozen or so similarly aged gay friends scattered around the country. Three of them are legally married to same sex spouses. The rest are single and live alone. All of them seem comfortable with their situations. I also have several younger gay friends. About half of them are legally married to same sex spouses. One couple is currently in the process of divorcing. I know that is pretty unreliable sample, but I do feel that the advent of legal gay marriage has encouraged a lot of gay people to take the plunge. Most of them seem to stay married. Others stay coupled without any legal arrangements. I'd love to see the stats on that actually. I'm sure they're out there somewhere. Gay lifestyles for younger people still seem geared towards partying and hook-ups. A lot of this is fueled by the proliferation of instant hook-up apps. I'm sure my generation would have used them too. My gut instinct tells me that, as a general rule, gay people are forming domestic relationships much more frequently than in years past.

I just wish there was a good app for finding real relationships with other seniors. Haven't found anything yet. I would love to find someone, as I'm living in a 55+ apartment community of straight, conservative seniors. There is an older male couple here, but I haven't met them yet. I miss the relationship I had for 16 years. I would have been willing to get married but the relationship ended before the 2015 SCOTUS decision. Probably good that we didn't get married because it would have ended in divorce, looking back.

I moved out of Austin for family reasons, which were legitimate, but I keep hoping I'll be able to return some day while I can still enjoy it. Depends on whether circumstances change.