Austin | The Quincy (93 Red River) | 369 Feet | 30 Floors | Complete
 

This would be the reason for the soil testing that Geckos_Rule posted about in the Waller Park Place thread that turned out to be for Endeavor's 91-93 Red River site. According to yesterday's AULCC meeting notes, this is a 30-story residential project with retail. Here's the location on Streetview:

https://i.imgur.com/zhe3DcY.png


Here's the site location from AULCC:

https://i.imgur.com/YQfWWnO.png
ftp://ftp.ci.austin.tx.us/ATD_AULCC/...ofts_PLANS.pdf

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In all seriousness, i'm excited to see what the plan is for this spot

Gonna take away the views from the Container Bar...

But who needs views when you can look up and see highrises.:tup:

Heres a legitimate question though. What is the city's plan for managing traffic in that section of DT? Not just talking about this new project but all the additions coming to the Rainey Street District. The existing streets where not meant for high traffic volume and you can already see how clogged it can get on any typical late weeknight or weekend night.

I really think the alleys should be utilized for pedestrian traffic. All of the businesses along Rainey could easily create a back entrance. The alleys could be redone with brick or stonework and well lit, in other words they stop being alleyways and become more like what you see in European cities. I don't know how many times I've seen cars going down Rainey and then someone or some people suddenly dart into the street in front of them. I'm thankful but suprised there hasn't been a more serious accident. Granted the cars are moving at 20mph or less but still, it causes traffic flow to clog.

what about banning cars that are not residents?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-centre-france

This. Let's not plan this area around cars. The city should look into making this area as accessible by public transit as possible.

The elevations for the building are on pages 32 and 33 of those PDF plans. The penthouse level is 344' according to the elevations. Also the name of the project (according to the plans) is Town Lake Lofts.

Edited to add: There is another thread already for Town Lake Lofts and Kevin posted the elevations there.

Guys, these are two different projects. This is a new one we haven't heard of yet. I saw that AULCC pdf posted yesterday, but I couldn't tell if it was a high rise so I didn't post it. TheATX, where did you read that it'll be a 30-story mixed use tower?


The "Red River Development" is at 91-93 Red River Street at Red River and Davis Street - north of the Hotel Van Zandt.

Town Lake Lofts is at 16 North IH-35 - between East Avenue and IH-35 - south of the Holiday Inn.

And agreed on the cars issue in that area. One of the stark differences between the Rainey Street area and say, around where the central library and Independent are is the traffic. Even with the area around The Independent turning into the most dense area of downtown, the traffic over there is almost non-existent. When Jdawgboy, theGenral and I were walking around there last week, I was snapping pics in the middle of 2nd Street and only one car came by. The difference is most of the uses in the area around the Independent are residential, and most of those residents walk or bike to locations in downtown. The Rainey Street area, while it does have residential, still has a lot of bars that attract a lot of people to that area from outside of downtown from areas that at are more car dependent. Those people are driving in Rainey Street to hit the bars and it's creating way more traffic there than there should be.

People shouldn't be driving to the bar.

The meeting notes on the spreadsheet often have more info than the PDF. This is from the spreadsheet:

ftp://ftp.ci.austin.tx.us/ATD_AULCC/AULCC_2018/180222/

Ok, thanks. I forgot about the spreadsheets.

This one should have similar views down the river as 70 Rainey does depending on the height. 30 floors is pretty tall.

The AULCC meeting notes usually have the estimated construction start date. For this one it shows that the start of construction is between 7/30/2019 and 7/30/2020. Original start dates usually get pushed out past the planned start, so this probably won't be breaking ground any time soon.

Honestly (and this is speaking as a Rainey St. resident) I think the difference is that really the main attraction to the area is the bars, and nothing else. There are restaurants, sure, but not much else. Whereas the independant/seaholm area has the library, shopping, restaurants, coffee shops, etc. So people in that area can kind of migrate from other areas of downtown, whereas rainey street right now is sort of a one-purpose destination, that brings people from all over austin to drive and park...

But I did wonder about traffic control here. Even without anything at Waller Park Place built, it's becoming a pretty big issue around the area at night. I don't usually mind it, but at 10:00 on a saturday it can take me an extra 5 minutes just to get the last 1/4 mile home. And with more buildings, it's going to be an even bigger issue with ubers/taxis/buses coming into the area and stopping in the middle of the road (since everything only has one lane for the most part). I've wondered that especially with the big limos and buses coming into the Hotel Van Zandt. If WPP ever gets developed like the plans were, there's no way a couple buses can just hang out and park for 3 hours in the street like they do now. But I have no earthly idea where they could go, unless that alley street west of rainey were totally re-vamped...

Here's a photo of the core sampling last week via #atxrising (and a Shore resident).

https://i.imgur.com/xBqcunM.png
https://twitter.com/hashtag/atxrisin...twgr%5Ehashtag

The site plan was filed today. But there's no new info yet.

https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...pertyrsn=93290

More info was added to the site plan today:

29 above ground floors:

1 - retail (~12.8K restaurant)
7 - parking
3 - office (~81K sq. ft.)
18 -residential

There is one additional underground level that I assume is parking. It's not clear if the residential is condo or apartments. At one place it says there are 328 condo units and another states that the 18 residential floors are apartments. It's possible that the floor counts listed could include the underground level which means the 29th level could be mechanical.

https://abc.austintexas.gov/attachme...4tAd%2BQ%3D%3D

Towers' sums up what we know so far:

https://austin.towers.net/29-story-m...t-near-rainey/

Lol love the caption below the massing picture. A green translucent building might look pretty cool and would fit well with Austin's weird culture.

I was spending way too much time looking at the site plan filing and found this design requirement for roof tops (#2 on the list) for buildings in the Waterfront Overly. I didn't know the city had such a requirement. I am not usually a fan of design policing which amounts to someone's opinion being enforced on someone else. But I like this one and would be happy to see it for all of downtown to eliminate boring flat roof designs.

https://i.imgur.com/RHbNBDo.png
https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...pertyrsn=93290

The site plan was posted to the AULCC's website. The building elevations are in color, and also if you scroll down to the last pages of the site plan there's a couple more images of it.

The elevations show some signage calling it "Red River Tower".

354 feet 4 inches - mechanical penthouse roof

332 feet 4 inches - main roof parapet

326 feet 4 inches - main roof slab

315 feet - 29th floor

ftp://ftp.ci.austin.tx.us/ATD_AULCC/...nt_PLAN_02.pdf

Hard to tell, for sure, but based on the elevations, I would say that this is another meh...

Pretty meh but glass and concrete exterior is better than stucco or something like some of the other towers on Rainey.

Welp. It looks like a generic glass building on a parking structure. Par for the course it seems.

Wake me up when we actually get an interesting design in this city.

For those who hate PDFs:

https://i.imgur.com/VAIbpam.png

https://i.imgur.com/mGxQmUt.png

https://i.imgur.com/ozdRrWC.png

https://i.imgur.com/PDCjwLr.png

I actually like it. It's like a mix between 360 and The Whitley.

I'm with Kevin. It is what it is and the use is needed. Better yet, beats the hell out of what's there today.

I like it. It's a little different than the usual rectangle. But renderings are needed to get a better idea.

https://i.imgur.com/NVJiKkL.png

Is this going the length of the block (from Davis St. to Driskill St.)?

First impression...
Reminds me of a high rise condo bldg out of S. Florida. Looks like it belongs on a beach somewhere...

But I don't hate it.

In Sim City 2000, when property values get to a certain level and your Residential Zoning is set on high, one of the buildings the AI will naturally populate in that space is this one.

It certainly looks like it, but that means they're still a ways away from construction. The north side of the block would still need to be demoed before doing anything. Whereas the south side is just a parking lot right now.

Towers sums up what we know so far:

https://austin.towers.net/heres-91-r...tower-project/


This is being designed by Ziegler Cooper. In Austin, they've done the Austonian, Gables Park Plaza, Zaza and Millennium Rainey. Three out of four ain't bad. Here's their website:

http://zieglercooper.com/#

JR is about as enthusiastic of a reporter as Jude is. In the article, if you click on the red lettered "coming together", he put together a graphic of the Rainey St District with the potential future skyline. I tried to copy and paste the picture here but I failed because I'm a copy and paste idiot.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWBB79uVMAAg2Us.jpg

The image is from his Twitter feed

And then a building with a 300' high pedestrian bridge connecting to a tower on the Statesman lot...with a viewing platform to be right in the middle of the bats for the full experience.

A demo permit was filed this week to clear the other half of the site.

https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...rtyrsn=3519877

A short presentation was added to the site plan for a "modified Great Streets" plan. I haven't heard of this before, but something about the project/site must
preclude a more typical Great Streets design. Here's a drawing from the site plan:

https://i.imgur.com/UExvG0i.png
https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...pertyrsn=93290

Soil retention plans are posted for 09/06 AULCC. The start of construction was moved way up to November 1st. It was previously listed as between July 2019 and July 2020.

ftp://ftp.ci.austin.tx.us/ATD_AULCC/AULCC_2018/180906/

So it starts Nov 2018? Is it unusual for it to start earlier? Is this a good sign for the market?

Certainly isn't a bad sign. Now, if we could just get something to happen at Waller Place and the dumb Ihop.

Rumor has it that an additional floor is being looked at...
We'll see as new structural drawings should be out end of this month/beginning of Oct.

That seems likely because the site plan went inactive (pending change) after the elevations were released.

The rumor about the additional floor was true. The site plan was posted to the AULCC site today.

ftp://ftp.ci.austin.tx.us/ATD_AULCC/...SP_PLAN_03.pdf

The elevations start on page 37 and show the mechanical penthouse height at 368 feet 8 inches with 30 floors. That's compared to 354 feet with 29 floors that it was.

Here are the updated elevations from AULCC.

https://i.imgur.com/Rhm8Nao.png
https://i.imgur.com/iOFJrtB.png
https://i.imgur.com/RMtPk0b.png
https://i.imgur.com/XdFt35w.png
https://i.imgur.com/Gpp6Ybl.png
ftp://ftp.ci.austin.tx.us/ATD_AULCC/...SP_PLAN_03.pdf

Here it is. There are more at the link.

https://i.imgur.com/S5lR41L.png
https://i.imgur.com/eNrNcId.png
https://i.imgur.com/XW4YNVj.png
http://www.austintexas.gov/edims/document.cfm?id=306395

See, now this is just the kind of stuff I was in need of. Nice pics!

Also, it's totally clear that we've jumped up a degree or two in height since even just a few years ago. Looking at Millenium Rainey and the Van Zandt, it's clear that buildings planned in the earlier part of the decade were shorter, smaller in scale, generally less ambitious. The buildings in this newer round are way more robust, and seem to fill out blocks entirely, while the earlier generation seem content with setbacks and smaller footprints.

It's good to see this ground floor retail on what is now a dead street. I really hope The Travis and WPP get built to add life to the other side of the street.

https://i.imgur.com/XW4YNVj.png

Don't we already have three or four buildings that look like this one? Pretty generic design imo

I like it. This building has the same level of facade detailing that 360 has, and they did a good job on the garage as well.