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Wpg_Guy Apr 4, 2018 4:35 PM

Winnipeg | Richardson Innovation Centre | 4 floors | U/C
 
Location: Winnipeg, MB
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Client: Richardson International
Size: 62,000 sq. ft.
Completed: 2020 (targeted)

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Hartley Richardson and JRI president Curt Vossen announce $30 million food research and education facility in downtown Wpg. 4-story building scheduled to be up and operational by spring 2020.Richardson says it was "high priority" to build downtown. #cbcmb


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RICHARDSON INNOVATION CENTRE
With its dramatic angular form of transparent glass and contrasting tyndall stone, the new Richardson Innovation Centre will project Richardson International’s commitment to community building and innovation in the heart of downtown Winnipeg. Designed for advanced food product development, the four-storey laboratory building will actively interact with its unique downtown location, serving as a catalyst for future pedestrian-oriented redevelopment between historic Portage and Main and the East Exchange District.

The 62,000 sq. ft. facility will create interest along Lombard Avenue with an assortment of pedestrian friendly landscaping features and unique views from the street into the spaces inside. The building’s orientation and strategic use of glass floods the interior spaces with natural light and provides dramatic views of downtown.

Inside, a large glass atrium contains a feature staircase to establish direct connections to each floor and the different functional areas of the building. The staircase provides a striking architectural statement set against a full-height wood feature wall designed as an artistic representation of a DNA barcode, offering visual warmth and conceptually expressing the building’s various scientific uses.
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Wpg_Guy Apr 4, 2018 4:37 PM

RICHARDSON TO BUILD WORLD-CLASS INNOVATION CENTRE IN DOWNTOWN WINNIPEG
https://www.richardson.ca/richardson...town-winnipeg/
April 4, 2018 (Winnipeg, MB) – Richardson International is investing more than $30 million to develop an innovation centre in the heart of downtown Winnipeg, featuring state-of-the-art technology and equipment for research and product development. This world-class facility will complement Richardson’s food and ingredients division and will provide an extensive opportunity for industry collaboration. The new centre will not only facilitate agri-food research and product innovation, it will help invigorate the downtown area and serve as a lasting legacy for the Winnipeg community.

“Our goal is that the Richardson Innovation Centre will become a centre for collaboration – as a training facility for our employees and customers and an education centre for food science students and the culinary community,” says Chuck Cohen, Richardson’s Senior Vice-President, Technology. “As a Winnipeg-based company, we look forward to bringing our customers, suppliers and partners from around the globe to this centre to showcase our products and capabilities and provide them with a rich experience in a very unique setting.”

Richardson Innovation CentreThe four-storey, 5,800 square metre (62,000 square feet) facility will house Richardson’s food development team, product development suites, analytical laboratory and a culinary test and demonstration kitchen. To support Richardson’s quality assurance and food safety teams, the centre will boast a cutting-edge microbiology lab and an extensive quality analysis area. The building will also include office areas with room for expansion to focus on innovation such as the increased use of robotics and automation in food packaging and processing. The strategic positioning of these core departments within the same multi-level space will optimize research, analytical and educational activities and facilitate the efficient development of truly innovative products.

“The process of product development requires a modern platform for testing solutions, troubleshooting issues and exploring new ideas as they relate to market needs and evolving customer taste profiles,” says Curt Vossen, Richardson’s President and CEO. “In order to test derivatives of existing products or create entirely new product streams, our team’s technical capabilities must be backed by the right technical facilities. We anticipate the Innovation Centre will provide them with the technical capacity and resources necessary to meet and exceed customer expectations.”

Located at the corner of Westbrook Street and Lombard Avenue, the Richardson Innovation Centre will be in close proximity to Richardson’s head office at Portage and Main. Construction will begin in April and is targeted for completion by the spring of 2020.

Richardson is Canada’s leading agribusiness and is recognized as a global leader in agriculture and food processing. The company is a worldwide handler and merchandiser of major Canadian-grown grains and oilseeds and is a vertically-integrated processor and manufacturer of oats and canola-based products. Over the past two decades, Richardson has become a significant player in the global food business, producing a wide variety of food products and ingredients for the retail, foodservice and industrial markets. One of Canada’s Best Managed Companies, Richardson is headquartered in Winnipeg with over 2,600 employees worldwide.

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For more information, please contact:
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204.934.5169 or 204.799.2838
Tracey.Shelton@Richardson.ca

esquire Apr 4, 2018 4:41 PM

Looks like a very high quality design and materials, which isn't surprising for a company like Richardson. Clearly no scrimping here. I like how it helps close in Lombard a bit, given that the eastern end is currently plagued by parking lots.

It's interesting how the layout creates a little island behind the new building, between itself and the rail line. I wonder if it's doomed to be a parking lot for all eternity now?

Also, as I said before, I thought this project was going to be built on the west side of Westbrook. The fact that that space will remain vacant makes me wonder what the long-term plan for it happens to be.

optimusREIM Apr 4, 2018 5:02 PM

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Originally Posted by esquire (Post 8142685)
Looks like a very high quality design and materials, which isn't surprising for a company like Richardson. Clearly no scrimping here. I like how it helps close in Lombard a bit, given that the eastern end is currently plagued by parking lots.

It's interesting how the layout creates a little island behind the new building, between itself and the rail line. I wonder if it's doomed to be a parking lot for all eternity now?

Also, as I said before, I thought this project was going to be built on the west side of Westbrook. The fact that that space will remain vacant makes me wonder what the long-term plan for it happens to be.

Well at least the parking lot will be mostly hidden. Down the road that can be revisited as land values increase.

As for the other side of westbrook, that is a very intriguing opportunity indeed. That has the potential to be a really incredible development one day. the views from the other side of the river of it would be amazing. Imagine even a 25 floor building there. It would stand out.

Wpg_Guy Apr 4, 2018 5:45 PM

Richardson to build new research facility in downtown Winnipeg
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Biff Apr 4, 2018 6:06 PM

^^^I was there today, hard at work already.

headhorse Apr 4, 2018 6:54 PM

who owns the piece of land next to the rail line? or will it be used for parking?

Urban recluse Apr 4, 2018 6:57 PM

Fairmont really needs to clean the exterior.

Wpg_Guy Apr 4, 2018 8:15 PM

The building looks great and be will a welcome development to a bleak area of parking lots. With that said i wish the Lombard facade (north end) had better interaction with the street, otherwise great project.

Kris22 Apr 4, 2018 8:17 PM

This will definitely bring some flash to that corner. Great design

trueviking Apr 4, 2018 8:32 PM

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Originally Posted by esquire (Post 8142685)

It's interesting how the layout creates a little island behind the new building, between itself and the rail line. I wonder if it's doomed to be a parking lot for all eternity now?
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It is partially a railway right of way....its not really a piece of land I could ever seen being developed....until the rail line is gone at least. It will be a small parking lot...less than 20 cars....surrounded with lots of landscaping and hidden by the building....with a new sidewalk along the existing lane connecting to the ballpark.

trueviking Apr 4, 2018 8:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WpG_GuY (Post 8143033)
The building looks great and be will a welcome development to a bleak area of parking lots. With that said i wish the Lombard facade (north end) had better interaction with the street, otherwise great project.

agreed....it has planters and benching along the sidewalk like you'd find on broadway...the windows looking into the labs along that wall are 10' high....its the problem with the building type...typically very introverted.

Andy6 Apr 4, 2018 8:58 PM

I’m glad that the Can-D-Man viewplane has been so punctiliously respected.

esquire Apr 4, 2018 9:02 PM

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Originally Posted by trueviking (Post 8143066)
It is partially a railway right of way....its not really a piece of land I could ever seen being developed....until the rail line is gone at least. It will be a small parking lot...less than 20 cars....surrounded with lots of landscaping and hidden by the building....with a new sidewalk along the existing lane connecting to the ballpark.

For sure, it's not a big deal if it stays that way if it's hidden out of sight. I'm glad that this project will block that little no man's land from view.

trueviking Apr 4, 2018 9:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy6 (Post 8143111)
I’m glad that the Can-D-Man viewplane has been so punctiliously respected.

I thought you would.

wags_in_the_peg Apr 4, 2018 9:38 PM

amazing, so much style! not at all cookie cutter like so many other buildings! way to go Vike! way to go Richardsons!

CoryB Apr 4, 2018 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Biff (Post 8142840)
^^^I was there today, hard at work already.

I thought the correct thread title had projects as "Proposed" until they were above grade in their construction.

Wigglez Apr 4, 2018 11:50 PM

Other than the fact that Building>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>parking I'm left a little sad with this one... zero street interaction, no retail, surface lot behind it.

I had always hoped that area would be something to unite the exchange and the forks, but we have a *VERY BEAUTIFUL suburban office building...

*Seriously Viking that looks amazing, and I know you worked with what you had - Please don't take my dislike of the result as a slam on you. I'm more sad with the limited application of the building itself.

trueviking Apr 5, 2018 12:35 AM

^^ha ha. No problem!

I wish every commercial building downtown had a retail ground floor too. It’s not realistic but it would be great. Richardson’s need a lab. They spent more building downtown than the suburban option they looked at. I’m glad they did. I didnt have a realistic expectation that they would build and run retail in their lab. As great as that would be.

It has as much street interaction as almost every other building in the exchange. But I agree. I wish it had retail units.

I don’t really get the fixation on the tiny parking lot. It’s not possible to build a building right up to the CN main line. The only reason there is any parking is because it’s not feasible to build there. They didn’t want any parking but there was no point in leaving the space empty.

joshlemer Apr 5, 2018 1:04 AM

This seems like really fantastic news for the city, both economically and from an urban development perspective. Major win guys, cheers!

Bdog Apr 5, 2018 2:08 AM

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Originally Posted by trueviking (Post 8143315)
^^ha ha. No problem!

I wish every commercial building downtown had a retail ground floor too. It’s not realistic but it would be great. Richardson’s need a lab. They spent more building downtown than the suburban option they looked at. I’m glad they did. I didnt have a realistic expectation that they would build and run retail in their lab. As great as that would be.

It has as much street interaction as almost every other building in the exchange. But I agree. I wish it had retail units.

I don’t really get the fixation on the tiny parking lot. It’s not possible to build a building right up to the CN main line. The only reason there is any parking is because it’s not feasible to build there. They didn’t want any parking but there was no point in leaving the space empty.

Surface parking, no main floor retail, not built up to the property line, suburban feel, minimal street interaction... Nice to see Vike be a bit more compromising and forgiving on these points when it's his own design :D:D;).

In all seriousness though, very cool design and a welcome addition to that area,even if it looks like it should be in Smart Park :cheers:.

trueviking Apr 5, 2018 4:34 AM

Ha ha. Yeah I deserve it.

The parking isn’t even for the building. It’s a remnant because it’s not legal to build within 30m of a main line.

I’ll totally give you the setback. It’s the only thing that makes it ‘suburban’ in my mind. Wouldn’t be my choice, and I can’t defend it, but I get why it was nonnegotiable. The site is an island in a sea of surface parking lots. And it likely will be for a long time. If it was surrounded by buildings built to the property line, I’m sure they wouldn’t have felt the need for it. It may even be a nice little pocket park on the lane if the rest of the lots were built up. It’s odd because it is seen in isolation, like a suburban building.

I do think it’s pretty unrealistic to expect every office building to have retail units. It’s not a public building. They could have built it in the suburbs. They almost did. I’m glad it has a huge street facing atrium and 10’ high windows into the labs. It was a battle to get that. It has more dialogue with the sidewalk than any other building on Lombard.

Compare it to the NRC labs on the other side of downtown. Or the labs near HSC. They are fortresses.

wags_in_the_peg Apr 5, 2018 1:01 PM

what is with obsession with street level retail? guys & gals, get over it, not every building can have it and there's 100's of empty retail street level spaces located in downtown.

Urban recluse Apr 5, 2018 1:12 PM

Exactly!

esquire Apr 5, 2018 1:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wags_in_the_peg (Post 8143642)
what is with obsession with street level retail? guys & gals, get over it, not every building can have it and there's 100's of empty retail street level spaces located in downtown.

Pretty much this. I would never expect a corporately owned building like this on a side street with minimal pedestrian traffic to have CRUs. It's simply not gonna happen. If there had been CRUs built, you could bet your bottom dollar that they'd sit empty for years before an accountant or therapist or some other professional service set up shop, it would never become a funky boutique or whatever.

That said, proper urban design can be expected of every building and vike makes a good point that this building is a vast improvement over the NRC research facilities on Ellice... those buildings look nice from a distance but they don't engage with the street at all.

wardlow Apr 5, 2018 3:25 PM

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Originally Posted by esquire (Post 8143669)
Pretty much this. I would never expect a corporately owned building like this on a side street with minimal pedestrian traffic to have CRUs. It's simply not gonna happen. If there had been CRUs built, you could bet your bottom dollar that they'd sit empty for years before an accountant or therapist or some other professional service set up shop, it would never become a funky boutique or whatever.

That said, proper urban design can be expected of every building and vike makes a good point that this building is a vast improvement over the NRC research facilities on Ellice... those buildings look nice from a distance but they don't engage with the street at all.

Proper urban design *should* be expected of every building, but yes. And there are many ways to make buildings pedestrian friendly without adding active commercial at ground level. Jan Gehl and others talk about what proper building design elements are needed on residential and non-high streets. Lots of permeability (real doors and real windows), and visual texture and scale... ie, no long blank walls.

Given the setbacks the owner demanded, this building does a pretty good job of adding a lot to the pedestrian environment.

And even at downtown Winnipeg's urbanism peak (circa 1915-1930), I don't believe there ever was retail on Westbrook, or just about anywhere else that far east of Main. This was, and certainly is now, very much off the beaten path.

Ando Apr 5, 2018 4:13 PM

The project is filling longtime surface lots downtown, creating 100 high-end jobs initially with up to 200. It is being built by a private Winnipeg-based company dedicated to the city and the downtown, without public funding. It is a great design and doesn't look anything like anything like anything I've seen in the suburbs, and it's the same height as the building across the street. It's a lab. I don't expect every building built to have ground floor retail, anymore than I would expect Richardsons to put a floor of condos on the fourth floor.

rrskylar Apr 5, 2018 4:27 PM

Great addition to the area, modern design, private investment what's not to like?!:cheers:

borkborkbork Apr 5, 2018 5:25 PM

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Originally Posted by trueviking (Post 8143510)
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I’ll totally give you the setback. It’s the only thing that makes it ‘suburban’ in my mind. Wouldn’t be my choice, and I can’t defend it, but I get why it was nonnegotiable. The site is an island in a sea of surface parking lots. And it likely will be for a long time. If it was surrounded by buildings built to the property line, I’m sure they wouldn’t have felt the need for it. It may even be a nice little pocket park on the lane if the rest of the lots were built up. It’s odd because it is seen in isolation, like a suburban building.

why the insistence on setback? is that coming from the client?

btw great job with the angled cantilevered section so the nutty club sign remains partially visible, i love that sign :)

borkborkbork Apr 5, 2018 5:28 PM

also one of the things to point out for those who are talking about "it looks suburban", think about the cladding here. in a render, you don't necessarily see the distinction as much between tyndall stone and the usual EIFS/hardie/stucco/whatever cladding you'd see in the burbs. but at a street level, this being tyndall stone will make it feel MUCH more solid and urban, i think

plrh Apr 5, 2018 5:41 PM

I like it. With a building that size it could have ended up looking like a credit union. I don't know why but credit unions always look awful. But this does not:)

wags_in_the_peg Apr 5, 2018 5:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ando (Post 8143851)
The project is filling longtime surface lots downtown, creating 100 high-end jobs initially with up to 200. It is being built by a private Winnipeg-based company dedicated to the city and the downtown, without public funding. It is a great design and doesn't look anything like anything like anything I've seen in the suburbs, and it's the same height as the building across the street. It's a lab. I don't expect every building built to have ground floor retail, anymore than I would expect Richardsons to put a floor of condos on the fourth floor.

exactly! very well put

optimusREIM Apr 5, 2018 5:53 PM

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Originally Posted by plrh (Post 8143976)
I like it. With a building that size it could have ended up looking like a credit union. I don't know why but credit unions always look awful. But this does not:)

The SCU main branch in Steinbach would look at home on any street in downtown Winnipeg.

trueviking Apr 5, 2018 6:07 PM

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Originally Posted by borkborkbork (Post 8143940)
why the insistence on setback? is that coming from the client?

Yes. Many sleepless nights. Many hours trying to present the case for the alternate. The building for them is a showpiece that they bring people from around the world to impress. They see the area as a desolate and harsh place that doesn’t fit that image. Hard to argue. That’s why I say that if there were other buildings on the street it wouldn’t have mattered. They really felt the context needed to be softened to make the building feel like it wasn’t sitting in an ocean of parking lots. I don’t agree but I get it. Hopefully the other sites will be filled with good urban buildings and the little plaza functions a bit like a pocket park.

Need to convince the city to end the deal with Sam for the parking lot to the south and sell it to a developer.

Urban recluse Apr 5, 2018 6:20 PM

In today's FP, Richardson made a comment about owning that lot for 30 years, and they " were waiting for the right opportunity." That kind of makes me sick that they owned it for that long, and sat on it.

plrh Apr 5, 2018 6:21 PM

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Originally Posted by optimusREIM (Post 8144006)
The SCU main branch in Steinbach would look at home on any street in downtown Winnipeg.

So you are saying that awful buildings look at home in downtown Winnipeg? I know what you are actually saying. Maybe I shouldn't have used the word 'always,' but you know what I mean. :P

esquire Apr 5, 2018 6:30 PM

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Originally Posted by plrh (Post 8144056)
So you are saying that awful buildings look at home in downtown Winnipeg? I know what you are actually saying.

It might not be world class design, but still, you couldn't tell me that this wouldn't cause a noticeable improvement to the streetscape on just about any commercial street in Winnipeg:

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headhorse Apr 5, 2018 6:31 PM

^ Richardson's are sitting on a lot more money and property than just this one that they're doing nothing with...

trueviking Apr 5, 2018 6:32 PM

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Originally Posted by borkborkbork (Post 8143950)
also one of the things to point out for those who are talking about "it looks suburban", think about the cladding here. in a render, you don't necessarily see the distinction as much between tyndall stone and the usual EIFS/hardie/stucco/whatever cladding you'd see in the burbs. but at a street level, this being tyndall stone will make it feel MUCH more solid and urban, i think

This is true. The cladding is 6'x3' panels of tyndal stone. The glass is super clear. It is not typical condo materials.

Wpg_Guy Apr 5, 2018 6:32 PM

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bu...478829123.html
Food innovation in heart of downtown
Richardson International to build $30-M centre that will draw in experts from across the nation
Martin Cash By: Martin Cash
Posted: 04/4/2018 10:30 PM

Richardson International is building a $30-million innovation centre down the street from its Portage and Main headquarters as a testament to its commitment to downtown Winnipeg and its optimism for the Western Canadian agricultural industry.

Construction on the four-storey, 62,000-square-foot building on the southeast corner of Westbrook Street and Lombard Avenue — the current site of two surface parking lots — will begin next week.

Hartley Richardson, the CEO of James Richardson & Sons, the multi-billion-dollar family owned business, and chair of Richardson International, the grain-handling and food processing division, said the new development is a continuation of its commitment to downtown Winnipeg that started in 1965 with the development of the company’s office tower at Portage and Main.

"That building is now the corporate head office of James Richardson & Sons as well as five subsidiaries. Our roots run deep in Winnipeg and we are very proud to call it home," he said.

"Our vision has long been to see downtown Winnipeg reach its potential as the centre of excellence for the agricultural industry. Today, that vision takes a giant step closer to becoming a reality."

The Richardson Innovation Centre will become the headquarters for the company’s food innovation teams. Richardson International, one of the largest originator and exporter of canola and oats in North America, also owns two large canola processing facilities in Western Canada and five oat processing facilities in Canada, the U.S. and the U.K.

The new centre will bring food science and technician teams in from across the country to work in a modern, spacious facility.

Chuck Cohen, Richardson International’s senior vice-president technology, said, "As we move into new products and new businesses and new product lines there will be lots of room for expansion to help that team grow."

The company has been talking about establishing such a research and development centre for a few years. Curt Vossen, the CEO of Richardson International, said it is part of the evolution of the company over the past 20 years from being strictly a grain handling and merchandising company into one that includes a billion-dollar crop input retail operation and canola and oats processing operation.

"We are now looking at a company that is very much involved in a variety of different things — agricultural products, grain merchandising, inputs retailing... the whole business of processing raw agricultural material into much more finished products," he said. "So we are basically in the food and ingredients business."

The building, which is scheduled to be completed in 2020, will be the workplace for about 100 people initially with the capacity for twice as many people.

Designed by Winnipeg’s Number Ten Architectural Group, the new building will feature a 20-metre-high glass atrium and inside of that a sculptural glass staircase set in front of a wood feature wall.

"The atrium will be a glowing lantern and a focal point in the downtown, opening the building to the urban surroundings, something you don’t typically see with lab buildings," said Brent Bellamy, Number Ten’s creative director.

Vossen and Richardson made the point that the design and presentation of the building was almost as important as its functionality.

"We have owned the property for about 30 years and we were waiting for the right opportunity," Richardson said. "We looked at other alternative sites but we agreed it would be inconsistent with our commitment to downtown. We decided this was the right time and place to use the lot and build a dramatic, good looking building, instead of another box."

The building will have three-metre windows that will allow pedestrians to glimpse the equipment inside and the second storey will cantilever five metres over the sidewalk "in a gesture like no other in the city," Bellamy said.

"I think that will become the signature of the building and a real feature for downtown," he said.

Company officials said it will become another asset in the city to collaborate with the food science work at the University of Manitoba and the culinary arts department at Red River College, as well as the Canadian International Grains Institute and the Food Development Centre in Portage la Prairie.

Vossen said the investment is not being done out of any sense of competitive urgency.

"It is about our optimism about the future. If we wanted to be casual about it, we wouldn’t do it (at all)," Vossen said. "And I can guarantee we would not need to do it like this. We could put it in a box in an industrial park. But that is not the point.

"We want to make a statement," he said. "It is not about ego. It is about who we are as a company. We are a proud Canadian company. We want to bring the best technology and solutions... and do it the way we do everything else, in a practical, but elegant way."

Total area — 62,000 square feet (5,800 square metres)

Number of floors — four

Total height — 66 feet (20 metres)

Main floor — 19,000 square feet — product development and culinary kitchen

Second floor — 19,000 square feet — quality control labs including analytical lab, microlab and grain grading lab — offices and staff areas including south-facing outdoor patio

Third floor — 12,00 square feet — office area

Fourth floor — 12,000 square feet -— office area

martin.cash@freepress.mb.ca

Read more by Martin Cash .

Urban recluse Apr 5, 2018 6:33 PM

Very sad. Don't be preaching when...

borkborkbork Apr 5, 2018 6:39 PM

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Originally Posted by trueviking (Post 8143315)
^^ha ha. No problem!

I wish every commercial building downtown had a retail ground floor too. It’s not realistic but it would be great. Richardson’s need a lab. They spent more building downtown than the suburban option they looked at. I’m glad they did. I didnt have a realistic expectation that they would build and run retail in their lab. As great as that would be.

It's a nice distance from the Richardson HQ, too -- one long block, not connected underground, but still close enough that people can walk from 1 Portage over. Has the potential to bring a little bit of street action to that stretch of Lombard.

Jammon Apr 5, 2018 6:53 PM

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Originally Posted by borkborkbork (Post 8144082)
It's a nice distance from the Richardson HQ, too -- one long block, not connected underground, but still close enough that people can walk from 1 Portage over. Has the potential to bring a little bit of street action to that stretch of Lombard.

I really don't understand how people could be critical of this development. When Winnipeg has filled up all of the surface lots only then can we complain about the types of projects being built. One more gravel lot filled by a building that creates sustainable jobs is ok by me. Anything is better than looking at that.

Ando Apr 5, 2018 7:55 PM

Well, you may have noticed that certain people like to naysay everything around here.

Ando Apr 5, 2018 7:59 PM

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Originally Posted by headhorse (Post 8144071)
^ Richardson's are sitting on a lot more money and property than just this one that they're doing nothing with...

They are a multi-billion dollar international company. I think they do stuff to make money. I can't argue with that. Within the confines of making a profit, they have done a ton for Winnipeg and the downtown.

Urban recluse Apr 5, 2018 8:05 PM

It is one thing to be a successful company, but it is another to sit on lots for 30 years, then talk about revitalization.

Ando Apr 5, 2018 8:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban recluse (Post 8144171)
It is one thing to be a successful company, but it is another to sit on lots for 30 years, then talk about revitalization.

I don't know if you work, or what sector you work in, but you seem ill-informed about how private companies work and motivate themselves. It's not uncommon to hold property for future development, in areas where there has traditionally been a lack of activity or demand. That said, Richardson's has built a skyscraper at the corner of portage and main, is a partner in the True North project going up, which is taking another surface lot, and now this. Profit-based based companies don't just do stuff to make you happy. This isn't rocket science.

Urban recluse Apr 5, 2018 8:26 PM

Oh please, what have they done for downtown since 1967? I am sure TNS would have proceeded without the Richardsons.

"We looked at other alternative sites but we agreed it would be inconsistent with our commitment to downtown."

Bitch please. Don't be looking down at all those empty barren lots and now spout revitalization. The fact is that this lot has been an eyesore for 30 years.

ywgwalk Apr 5, 2018 9:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban recluse (Post 8144209)
Oh please, what have they done for downtown since 1967? I am sure TNS would have proceeded without the Richardsons.

Employed 400+ people right at Portage and Main.

Urban recluse Apr 5, 2018 9:06 PM

What about GWL? We are not talking about day to day operations, and staffing but revitalization efforts. You think this measly lab is worth shouting from the rooftops? If they really had a passion for the downtown, that lot (and who knows what other land they own) would have been developed by now or sold. I had no idea they owned that land for so long.

I am impressed more by Artis, and I do not think we have seen the last of the projects the company has planned.


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