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No, you haven't lost your mind. Complaining about noise and exhaust is one of the few things that NIMBYs can do to feel better if they fail to stop the construction altogether; you know, sticking it to the developers and hurting their bottom line by restricting construction hours and lengthening the timeframe for delivery of units.

I really like this design, but with many, many towers going up in lower Manhattan, why should Sheldon Silver give a rat's mass about this one?

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Originally Posted by ardecila (Post 3598896)

Calling projects "Hong Kong on the Hudson", saying that a skyscraper (Torre Verre) is inappropriate in Midtown, etc. is sticking it to developers for the sake of it. However, no loud noise during after-hours is indeed a reasonable thing to ask. This isn't Ground Zero, where workers must work round the clock to speed up rebuilding a key element of New York's infrastructure. There is no reason why the workers must be working at night on this project.

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Originally Posted by NYC4Life (Post 3598474)

We already had the one incident over at Goldman with the steel falling at the ballfield below, so it only makes peferct sense.

Of course it does. What sand persone would send their child to a school with construction still going on hundreds of feet overhead?

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Originally Posted by Lecom (Post 3599417)

This isn't Ground Zero, where workers must work round the clock to speed up rebuilding a key element of New York's infrastructure. There is no reason why the workers must be working at night on this project.

These are some of the same people who have been complaining about the delay in the school's opening, and about the length of construction in general. So, they either deal with shorter and lengthy construction, or longer and quicker construction. Either way, they'll find something to complain about, so it hardly matters.

Good Updates Scruffy. This one is surely rising fast :banana:

Those iPod dancers sure do seem excited about this one.

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Originally Posted by colemonkee (Post 3603481)

Those iPod dancers sure do seem excited about this one.

They probably won't be there when the base is completed :haha:

It must have been incredibly tough for those construction workers to be out there and toiling in that heat.

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Originally Posted by Scruffy (Post 3603407)

6/9

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...a/DSC01998.jpg

Now that we have a final rendering, this is a more exciting site to see...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...DIM&refer=muse

Flashy Towers by Gehry, Van Berkel Drape, Pleat N.Y. Skyline

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/data?p...d=iob.l67ophDg

Review by James S. Russell

June 10 (Bloomberg) -- New residential projects in New York by brand-name architects keep on coming. Ben van Berkel's Five Franklin Place takes the glass-box condo and ties it up in sinuous ribbons of black metal. Frank Gehry drapes the Beekman Tower's 76 stories in voluptuous folds of stainless steel.

More is to come from Rem Koolhaas, Daniel Libeskind and Jean Nouvel. These are not just emblems of confidence in the New York market. They also express faith in architecture that strives for significance.

Rising architecture star Van Berkel of Amsterdam's UNStudio didn't make the 20-story Five Franklin Place look like its Tribeca neighbors. Instead, he craftily reinterprets old New York. The tall rows of cast-iron columns that face Lower Manhattan's old loft buildings become contemporary when he turns them sideways. These tubes whip around corners in auto-body-sleek curves, widen to form sunshades, dip to enclose balconies and narrow to frame views over Tribeca's tumbled roofscape.

Van Berkel compares the design to couture, specifically the pleated fabrics conjured by Issey Miyake.

``They move comfortably with the body,'' he says in an interview at the project's showroom. Similarly, he softens the stiffness of the condo box.

Inside, he calls for high ceilings in the duplex units on the lower floors, stealing a brilliant light-capturing idea from those old lofts. (These units start at $2.8 million.)

Sculptural Kitchen

Working with B+B Italia, the legendary design manufacturer, he creates a swooping pedestal, as graceful as a Brancusi sculpture, that erupts out of the floor to become a kitchen work surface. Your morning Wheat Chex will never look the same.

His curves soften sharp corners and blend cabinets into walls. A half-round door wrapping a bathtub slides away to reveal not only the living room but urban panoramas while you lather. Van Berkel is a stylist, and he creates design as debonair as Streamline Moderne for the project's developers, Leo Tsimmer and David Kislin, former commodities traders.

One of van Berkel's best-known designs is the 1998 Mobius House, which seemed to fold over and double back on itself. He reworks the idea in the expansive penthouses (priced up to $16 million).

You never encounter dead ends, he says, and ``walk in endless ways, where you can always open a door and view a panorama of the city.'' It's a notion that's both romantic and elegiac.

Gehry's First Skyscraper

In contrast to van Berkel's self-conscious sleekness, Frank Gehry's first real skyscraper -- at age 79! -- makes a stark silhouette on the skyline. Clad in a rumpled shiny surface of stainless-steel panels, the T-shaped rental-apartment tower for Forest City Ratner will rise 867 feet, notched by shallow setbacks at 16-story intervals.

It's the classic New York wedding-cake profile, and it derives a strange power from being stretched vertically so much. It will stand totemically amid medium-height buildings on Spruce Street near the Manhattan end of the Brooklyn Bridge.

Gehry and partner Craig Webb soften the effect with a surface warped into drapelike folds that sway as they descend the tower, as if picked up by a passing breeze. The sharp edges and soft surfaces look unreconciled in models yet may come to life in the changing light of day.

It's a daring esthetic gambit that injects some needed vigor into the skyline.

Inside, the 903 apartments (mostly studios and one-bedrooms) line up along their skinny corridors with bland efficiency (the work of apartment-plan specialist Ismael Leyva). Rents are expected to be about $5,800 a month for a 1,000-square-foot unit.

Upper floors, with 360-degree views, feature larger layouts. The exterior wiggles give some units a bay window. That's the end of the excitement, though.

Public School Pedestal

As part of a deal brokered with state Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, the tower rises from a pedestal formed by a six- story, orange-brick public school that could readily be mistaken for a pharmaceutical lab. Yes, there will be some new green space, yet the dim, architecturally abused streets of Lower Manhattan -- not to mention the school children -- deserve a bit of the Gehry lyricism too.

At its best, the celebrity-architect trend is finally upending the presumption that developers can put up any piece of junk if they have the location and the view. Van Berkel and Gehry transform the constraints of building in New York, mainly its idiosyncratic zoning. Architecture again reflects the city's restless dynamism.

I thought I'd throw in Five Franklin Place since it's mentioned in the article.

http://www.archinect.com/images/uplo...908_144127.jpg

^^

thanks...was wonderin' 'bout that one:)

Building the base should be fairly quick and easy. The tower portion will be more tricky and time-consuming because of the irregular-shaped floorplates.

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Originally Posted by NYC4Life (Post 3603426)

Good Updates Scruffy. This one is surely rising fast :banana:

Yeah, well it's about TIME. This one has been a proposal for several years now. Has anyone figured out yet what the big deal about publishing the final rendering was, anyway?:shrug:

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Originally Posted by CoolCzech (Post 3613568)

Has anyone figured out yet what the big deal about publishing the final rendering was, anyway?:shrug:

Gehry has said in the past that he wanted to be sure the skyscraper would be built before putting out the final rendering. But there have also been changes constantly being made to the tower.

I don't get it. How can some talentless, post-modern hangover like Kaufman get so many damned commissions when the city is quite literally crawling (from hunger at the lack of real commissions) with exceptional architects. It's just not fair.

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Originally Posted by samoen313 (Post 3616335)

I don't get it. How can some talentless, post-modern hangover like Kaufman get so many damned commissions

Because he charges a buck fifty per building, and cheap developers like Sam Chang love that Wal-Mart pricing, even though it comes with Wal-Mart quality.

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