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KevinFromTexas May 24, 2015 5:40 AM

That's the problem with annexing. Sure, you gain some population, but each time you do it you're lowering your density level. And it's unreasonable to think, at least for now, that you can add density on the fringe's of the city that are going to affect the density level overall.

drummer May 24, 2015 11:07 PM

A relative in Denton County emailed me an article from the local Denton paper. It touches on the extreme growth of DFW and makes a few good mentions of the Austin and San Antonio areas as well.

http://www.dentonrc.com/local-news/l...ssStory2306939

Tech House May 26, 2015 5:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 7037478)
That's the problem with annexing. Sure, you gain some population, but each time you do it you're lowering your density level. And it's unreasonable to think, at least for now, that you can add density on the fringe's of the city that are going to affect the density level overall.

Although it may decrease density, doesn't annexation allow for the city to have greater jurisdiction over the manner in which development takes place in those areas? That seems like a worthy objective. And stats about density are mere indicators, no substitute for the reality they represent.

Travis County is vastly superior to Snohomish Co. in its development policies. At least you can make a modicum of sense of the way Austin's suburbs develop, whereas Snohomish is a completely discombobulated hodge podge, where every large lot becomes its own unique subdivision and there is little or no infrastructure development to compensate for the increased density. My sister's place is one of the remaining older houses with enough yard (quarter acre, maybe) to have a nice garden, but developers will eventually snatch it, add the adjacent half acre, and then build 10 crackerbox houses on their own private street. It really makes the Austin metro look positively brilliant.

The ATX Jun 1, 2015 9:43 AM

The City of Austin has been growing fast for a long time due to the influx of new residents much more so than by annexation. But the Lost Creek MUD is being annexed this year. Does anyone know the population of that area? I'm guessing it could be around 3K.

LoneStarMike Jun 1, 2015 10:18 AM

:previous: This looks to be old, because it shows Austin's population as 836,800, but whatever year it was for, it shows Lost Creek as 4,458.

http://statisticalatlas.com/place/Te...eek/Population

The ATX Jun 1, 2015 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarMike (Post 7046127)
:previous: This looks to be old, because it shows Austin's population as 836,800, but whatever year it was for, it shows Lost Creek as 4,458.

http://statisticalatlas.com/place/Te...eek/Population

That's good because it means the Lost Creek population is probably much higher now.

Edit: That's a cool website by the way LSM. Thanks for the link.

hookem Jun 1, 2015 2:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarMike (Post 7046127)
:previous: This looks to be old, because it shows Austin's population as 836,800, but whatever year it was for, it shows Lost Creek as 4,458.

That sounds about right. Lost Creek's population has mostly remained the same over the past few years, I suspect. There has been a little bit of new construction, and some new condos, but in general it has been completely built out for a while. It's a big annexation, though -- like annexing 3 Rollingwoods.

KevinFromTexas Sep 18, 2015 4:25 AM

In all likelihood the metro has already surpassed 2 million.

http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/ne...t-growing.html
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Austin, surrounding counties, among fastest-growing in U.S. in 2014, Census data confirms

Sep 17, 2015, 1:53pm CDT

The Austin area grew from 1,883,051 residents in 2013 to 1,943,299 residents in 2014, adding 60,248 residents for a growth rate of 3.2 percent. That equates to an average of 165 new Austin-area residents a day, including babies born here.

Hays County added 8,999 residents, according to the data. Its population grew from 176,026 in 2013 to 185,025 in 2014, a growth rate of 5.11 percent.

Williamson County north of Austin was the 10th-fastest growing county in the U.S. in 2014. It added 18,236 residents and grew from a population of 471,014 in 2013 to 489,250, a growth rate of 3.87 percent.

Bastrop County was the 23rd-fastest growing county in the U.S. in 2014. That area east of Austin added 2,244 residents and grew from a population of 75,825 in 2013 to 78,069, a growth rate of 2.96 percent.

Travis County was the was the 42nd-fastest growing county in the U.S. in 2014, adding 30,191 residents and growing from a population of 1,120,954 in 2013 to 1,151,145.

JoninATX Sep 18, 2015 6:01 AM

Most likely it has. I say it's near 2.1 million now. :)

GoldenBoot Sep 18, 2015 5:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 7168276)
In all likelihood the metro has already surpassed 2 million.

http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/ne...t-growing.html

This data actually came out months ago.

In any case, if you take the estimated annual growth pattern from the July 1, 2010 estimate to the July 1, 2014 estimate, the Austin metro area was at 2,003,898 as of July 1, 2015. So, Austin was estimated to have surpassed the 2,000,000 mark in early June 2015.

JoninATX Sep 18, 2015 8:24 PM

We can all say that Austin has officially joined the 2 million club. It is now on par with the rest of the 2+ million cities.

The ATX Sep 18, 2015 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenBoot (Post 7168892)
This data actually came out months ago.

In any case, if you take the estimated annual growth pattern from the July 1, 2010 estimate to the July 1, 2014 estimate, the Austin metro area was at 2,003,898 as of July 1, 2015. So, Austin was estimated to have surpassed the 2,000,000 mark in early June 2015.

Right. I can't figure out why this is news again.

My math also had the metro reaching 2 million around July 1st. But the population might not show up as two million in the 2016 census release since it may have happened after the date census uses for their annual estimates.

Jdawgboy Sep 18, 2015 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The ATX (Post 7169261)
Right. I can't figure out why this is news again.

My math also had the metro reaching 2 million around July 1st. But the population might not show up as two million in the 2016 census release since it may have happened after the date census uses for their annual estimates.


This is why I don't put a a lot of emphasis on the official census numbers because they tend to be behind the current reality by 1-2 years. There's no doubt that the Austin metropolitan area has over 2 million people. There's little doubt that Austin itself will have 1 million people by the end of this year if it hasn't reached it already. Sure they probably have fairly accurate numbers, although they may under count sometimes, but their numbers are already outdated when they are released for cities like Austin that are growing very quickly.

JoninATX Sep 19, 2015 12:24 AM

The only 1 million metro in Texas is El Paso/ Las Cruces . Still can't believe Austin is a 2 million metro. When I moved to Austin back in 1997, the metropolitan just hit 1 million people. Now 18 years later it's twice the size.

GoldenBoot Sep 19, 2015 8:38 PM

-Austin's metro hit the 1,000,000 mark during fall 1995.

-Austin's city proper population is expected to surpass the 1,000,000 mark in summer 2017. I have a July 1, 2015 population estimate of 940,091 (when taking into account the July 1, 2010 thru July 1, 2014 annual growth estimations provided by the census bureau).

wwmiv Sep 19, 2015 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JoninATX (Post 7169343)
The only 1 million metro in Texas is El Paso/ Las Cruces . Still can't believe Austin is a 2 million metro. When I moved to Austin back in 1997, the metropolitan just hit 1 million people. Now 18 years later it's twice the size.

Point of fact: El Paso / Las Cruces is not a metro. It's only El Paso. Ergo, there are no 1 million metros in the state.

JoninATX Sep 20, 2015 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by wwmiv (Post 7170063)
Point of fact: El Paso / Las Cruces is not a metro. It's only El Paso. Ergo, there are no 1 million metros in the state.

Ok, I stand corrected.

The ATX Sep 20, 2015 4:09 AM

It may be close race as to the next Texas metro to hit that 1 million mark. El Paso and McAllen are at ~837,000 and ~831,000 respectively. But the McAllen metro is growing faster.

drummer Sep 20, 2015 7:01 AM

The Rio Grande Valley is growing significantly. I've got some extended family down there - always amazing to see what is happening, though unfortunately a lot of it is sprawl.

wwmiv Sep 20, 2015 4:24 PM

El Paso metro actually isn't growing at all. There was a year in the past five where it actually lost population according to the estimates.


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