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You will find pretty hideous hotels in most cities' downtowns, ranging from 60's through the present day. This type of hotel chain is not usually going to have top notch architecture, it's commercial architecture. However, I think they could still improve it by taking elements from both designs. I don't like the "mansard" at the bottom, it might be better at the top stylistically. I liked the clean look they had before, but perhaps they could have softened it a bit without it being such a drastic change. Also, because they have relocated the hotel on the site it has changed the footprint, therefore it's going to look different anyway. Apparently, there is a partial blank wall at the back which I see as the most unnattractive element of it.
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I do like how it is built on the corner of the lot and I like the bottom floor. I really dislike the colours and the glass on the top doesn't flow well with the rest of the building. |
If St. John's doesn't want it, Moncton will take it. I must admit that the first design was nicer.
A Hilton Garden Inn in downtown Moncton would fit right in. |
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I think we are getting a very unique Hilton garden inn (even the first proposal) .. from the looks of google they are not typically very fancy on the outside
for example The one in halifax (at teh airport) http://media.expedia.com/hotels/2000...79443_21_b.jpg others from google http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/med...n-downtown.jpg http://motel-listings.com/hotelimage...itedstates.jpg http://cls.cdn-hotels.com/hotels/200...73386_12_b.jpg http://static.asiarooms.com/hotelpho...1521451360.jpg The one in montreal is nice :D http://www.bonjourquebec.com/fr/imag...-228822518.jpg This one is nice too: http://www.vet.uga.edu/alumni/alumni...lton-Photo.jpg http://www.hgimediacenter.com/assets...ndering_FS.jpg Toronto: http://static.asiarooms.com/hotelpho...1521531191.jpg most of them look like kenmount road developments |
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But this is the only one I'll allow. :D |
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Lets keep in mind that the Garden Inn isn't the Hilton's top-ranked hotel chain, and is typically considered to be their discount chain. Asking for a design like Fortis Place would be too much. There's room for improvement, but I fear if council doesn't accept one of these two designs for the building the company will pass on the development all together.
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:previous: I agree. We can't ask them for an architectural masterpiece for a lower-class hotel. Compared to their other hotels, it looks like they've been trying to make this one unique. I think the new design, with a few tweaks could be nice. i would like to see the blank wall issue addressed and I think it would look really nice if they changed the color of the bricks to a dark brown and cream colour (Like the color scheme used on the Lemarchant Road Condo proposal)
http://www.pbase.com/image/147578717.jpg What do you think? Edit: I like the one that signal highlighted. I think that one would be a nice fit as well. |
Umm, I emailed about the Hilton a few months ago and they just sent me the PDF today. The blank wall on the back.. It's bad. 6/10 columns of windows are just a blank wall. It looks really bad. How is that legal?? And who will pay for a hotel room with a blank wall? And this still doesn't explain the blank wall on the front!!
They even include pictures of the original proposal in the PDF to taunt us.. -_- I'm really going to have to email back.. |
If anyone wants me to email them the PDF, just private message me your email address!
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Ok I have like too much to say about the LAUR
It's a;most made me suspicious that they have done this to get the original approved ... but who knows they say in it that they used techniques to make it "heritage" and feel like a lower build but they keep popping up with the old revering every like third page lol I'll take some screen shots to put on here in a few mins |
Here's the back we've been talking about .. you better sit down signal ...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...07839392_n.jpg the building in all it's "glory" https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...49874228_n.jpg some old renderings they kept reminding us of .... https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...21751554_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...74318711_n.jpg ... Ok I prefer the old proposal on the site that they moved it to ..trow a store or two on the street and voila but you can see that they are trying VERY hard to please everyone from what they wrote in the document .. they thought it out A LOT... I hope if this is refused because well it's not nice really .. I hope it doesnt discourage them from the development all together .. seems like the rules are so unclear .. |
I like that last picture of the old proposal.
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I have no clue how that's even legal (all that blank space). I too am wondering if this is all just a stunt to get the original approved. I'm definitely liking the original much better now.
They need to wait for the updated municipal plan. The might actual be able to propose something modern and something with windows because Sally McNeil up the road is too cheap to buy a curtain. |
The window for the hotel room is probably on the other side.
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Alright, I can't endorse this proposal with that blank wall. No way.
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The blank wall is awful. In all fairness, I do not care about downtown residents and their privacy. Insert windows.
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