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Its one of the reasons my wife and I checked them out. Not saying where we are headed. but Seeing the people in the room that night I can see a very centre party. Now when they have their policy convention, that will be worth noting. My join just to get my voice heard on this.
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With the UCP polling around 50% in Alberta, there is really only space for one moderate/ left party in the province if the goal is forming a government. The NDP is well established, especially in Edmonton, and any other party would have a tough time driving NDP support low enough to have a reasonable chance in most ridings. The way I see it, unless the NDP can convince progressive voters to abandon the Liberals and Alberta Party, we are pretty much guaranteed UCP government for the foreseeable future. However, if Notley can sell herself as a moderate, I think she has a much better chance against Kenney than most realize. Remember that Lougheed managed to end Social Credit from a progressive platform. Notley I think has tried to emulate the politics of that time with her centrist positioning and Captain Alberta persona on trans mountain.
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Three years since the Alberta NDP won in a landslide... Hope it happens again next year! Happy Cinco de Mayo...:cool:
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If the UCP lose the next election, I think it will be for their social policies as they are clearly out of step with the general population. The recent silence and vote walkout on the subject of restricting protests around abortion clinics was not only morally backwards, but utterly cowardly. How pathetic is Kenney if he can't even bring himself, or his party, to defend their moral stance? And they would be the first to tell you that they are paragons of moral virtue. |
^ I thought they walked out because they saw the bill as an infringment upon free speech, freedom of expression, freedom to protest.
Anyway, I'm not going to the ballot box next year and voting on a single social issue. In fact, I find it best to just leave social issues out of it all. |
I'm so torn on what to do this election.
The NDP are running around like drunken sailors on shore leave spending money the province doesn't have. The UCP is complete tire fire, it's almost like they took the worst elements of the PC/Wildrose parties and fed it HGH. Liberals aren't a going concern in Alberta, and probably never will be. I can't really see the Alberta Party mobilizing quickly enough to present a viable option for 2019. Is the best outcome a minority of one form or another? :shrug: |
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If things don't change drastically by next May or whenever Rachel calls the election--we need to implement true fixed election dates!--then a minority government probably is the best thing. |
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Why should social issues be left out? They are a big part of society. |
You guys that are thinking of voting for the AB Party are nuts.
It's run by Mandel, a PC'er who we kicked out of government! He didn't even win his local riding last time. DO NOT vote this weasel back in, keep him far, far away. Essentially, the debt incurred by the NDP is the cost to Albertans for removing the PC party. Now it's time to clean it up. |
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“You want to be called the Lake of Fire party? This is your opportunity,” warned McIver sounding as if his comments had been written by the NDP. “Don’t be called the Lake of Fire party, I’m begging you. This will really severely hurt our chances at winning. Don’t do that to yourself.” Another two MLAs pleaded with delegates to vote no. “We should not go down this road,” said Rimbey-Rocky Mountain House-Sundre MLA Jason Nixon. “Please vote against this resolution,” added Chestermere-Rocky View MLA Leela Aheer. But a majority of delegates ignored those pleas and supported the views of Pastor Brian Coldwell, who argued the resolution supported parental rights. “It’s not about anti-gay. It’s about fundamental, God-given freedoms.” http://edmontonjournal.com/news/poli...vative-pothole And this is not the media doing this. The columnist who wrote this is as conservative as they get. |
The problem they have is not owning it. That they themselves are acting as though it's poison empowers their opponents.
It's what enables the "hidden agenda" narrative, it makes them look like opportunists, and it makes them look spineless. I'm somewhat socially conservative and I know that some of the social conservative causes are non-starters. But you would think that a conservative party would be willing to actually talk about them and to consider where compromise would make sense. |
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Those people are certainly there, and some of the "Bozo Eruptions" were actually regressive/hateful. Others were simply impolitic. And then there are socially conservative positions that can be rationally defended, rationally debated... All three may inflame the leftist twitterati who were never going to vote conservative ever, but if they could condemn #1, explain and apologize for #2 and actually engage #3 they could actually get some respect from centrists.
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