PHILADELPHIA | The Murano | 475 FT / 145 M | 42 FLOORS

[looper121]

looks like the core is probably at the tenth floor i think thats what he meant

Either way, this puppy is moving at a pretty good clip...

[russbaseball]

the view from this morn.. not a great photo, but you can see they just started setting the forms for the 10th. the core is to the top of the 10th.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n72/russbaseball/murano-2.jpg

[looper121]

OK, OK. I think I counted from the 1st floor ceiling to the top and from that other angle cannot see the 10 floor core...you are right!

[CondoGuru]

Anyone else notice the glass on the second floor this morning? I didn't see any of it when I came home last night, so they must have been working late! You can see the arc of glass working its way around the Market Street side of the building. It looks great!

[theWatusi]

:previous: :banana: sweet. The first pic of glass on the murano with a snowy background would be pretty sweet.

hint hint to all you great photogs ;)

[russbaseball]

wow the glass looks really good from my view.. ill have to try to get down there for lunch and snap a few...

[russbaseball]

i would have taken more but the camera died on me..

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n72/russbaseball/100_2562.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n72/russbaseball/100_2560.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n72/russbaseball/100_2559.jpg

[giovanni sasso]

nice! i was there yesterday morning and the glass hadn't started. great stuff.

[Pinoy2.0]

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7837/dsc0219hj6.jpg

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[simpfan742]

Glass! Very exciting.

Can't wait to see this beauty rise from above 30th Street Station...

[Swinefeld]

Glass already? This is great. Nice pictures, guys.

[Eigenwelt]

ohhhh... that glass is going to look sexy as hell from the west with sunset light on it.

[phillyskyline]

Damn, I just can't get over how sexy this building is! Even the glass in Pinoy's pics look sleek & shiny!

[sjones]

They are getting the glass in early. This building is really going up at a nice speed and by fall it should be pretty tall. They will need to raise that crane or add a new one in a month or two at the rate its climbing.

[skyscraper]

I love the fact that this building is only on floor 10 and are putting the glass up, while Burj Dubai is up to about 110 and they don't have glass yet.
:haha:

[russbaseball]

they finnished all the windows around to the garage already!! its looking great.

[Joey D]

Yes, that glass is indeed sexy.

Can't wait to see it go up.

[H-Ville Man]

Glass already?

Isn't this a little too fast? It seems odd.

[drgoogle]

Probably a little bit of sales & marketing. When you have a great product, best to show it off. That glass is seeeeeeeeexy.

Glass already?

Isn't this a little too fast? It seems odd.

[McBane]

WOW! I can't believe how fast this building is going up. It's like an office building, not a condo: once the foundation was set, it's been a fast sexy ride. That is why I'm not discounting RATR yet. Once the foundation is in place, it could also suprise us in its speed, maybe. 10 Ritt on the other hand....

[DocAwesome]

Yeah, you guys are going to have to stop using the adjective "sexy" to describe this building. It's a little much.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p219/KennethSchwartz/IMG_1703-1.jpg

Never mind.

[Pinoy2.0]

Damn.

[theWatusi]

Yeah, you guys are going to have to stop using the adjective "sexy" to describe this building.

How about "bangin"?

BTW are there lights in there at night? Wonder what that would look like behind the glass....

[RadHaz75]

is the concrete going to remain exposed like that between floors, or will it be covered up with something?

[CGII]

Oh good lord...what an observation. I looked at the renderings, that concrete looks like it will only be painted, not covered with anything else. My outlook on this tower just plummeted.

[volguus zildrohar]

I went by this morning and saw the glass. I've never seen glass go in a building of this height this early in construction. I know they have a tight deadline but...damn. There's glass on the northern and southern facades.

RadHaz, Murano will probably follow the lead of its Washington Sqaure cousin and be treated with a sealant for the concrete.

[LordElPaso]

lol - when i saw the first pic with the glass, "sexy" was the first word that came to mind

this is going to be beautiful - SO much better than what i got from the rendering

[aesop]

so sexy

[Joey D]

I have to say although this tower came with much ssp acclaim, it still may still end up as being one of the more underrated towers, speaking aesthetically.

[bryson662001]

I love how all the concrete is exposed. I didn't expect that. It almost looks Brutalist.

[BUILDER5000]

from Phillyskyline.com (http://phillyskyline.com/misc/wallpaper_070309.jpg)

http://phillyskyline.com/misc/wallpaper_070309.jpg

[BUILDER5000]

If I were a betting man I'd say they are going to paint the concrete later in the project just the same as WFS did.

[Pinoy2.0]

I wonder if that's a stitch job or one wide angle lens.

[PhillyRising]

I love how all the concrete is exposed. I didn't expect that. It almost looks Brutalist.

I thought it was going to be completely covered in glass but going back to the rendering you do see where the concrete is exposed.

I wonder if there is going to be some sort of exterior lighting scheme at night?

[apetrella802]

As for the exposed concrete, it was answered a few posts back:

"RadHaz, Murano will probably follow the lead of its Washington Sqaure cousin and be treated with a sealant for the concrete.'

The reason I think you can expect this to be the case is that this building is by the same developer and architect as the St. James,

[CondoGuru]

The fact that everyone seems unable to describe this building in any other way but "sexy" just goes to show how predictable human nature truly is. It is undeniable that the building does take on a somewhat phallic shape...get your minds out of the gutter you sickos!!! lol

[apetrella802]

i don't know about sexy, i see it as a bit of FUTURISM, something beyound a reinterpretation of the International Style, a gleaming geometric form that one could imaging existing in a city of the future

http://davidszondy.com/future/city/cleanair.htm

[drgoogle]

its still sexy.

The fact that everyone seems unable to describe this building in any other way but "sexy" just goes to show how predictable human nature truly is. It is undeniable that the building does take on a somewhat phallic shape...get your minds out of the gutter you sickos!!! lol

[LordElPaso]

The fact that everyone seems unable to describe this building in any other way but "sexy" just goes to show how predictable human nature truly is. It is undeniable that the building does take on a somewhat phallic shape...get your minds out of the gutter you sickos!!! lol

not exactly true - i would describe it as "sexy" but comparing it to anything phallic didn't enter my mind until you mentioned it, and even now i don't think it's phallic...the glass is what most of us are referring to because its style and color is very attractive

[Lecom]

Glass looks pretty good already. This project will be fantastic when finished.

Should be visible from my dorm window soon too, so may start updates on it then.

[Swinefeld]

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/Swinefeld/New%20Constructon/MuranoMarch01.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/Swinefeld/New%20Constructon/MuranoMarch03.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/Swinefeld/New%20Constructon/MuranoMarch02.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/Swinefeld/New%20Constructon/MuranoMarch05.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/Swinefeld/New%20Constructon/MuranoMarch04.jpg

[Pinoy2.0]

It's like an attractive woman in a black dress. And by woman I mean building and by dress I mean reflective glass.

(school is making me go crazy, don't mind me.)

[PhillyRising]

Let's just pray they don't take any cheap routes like it was done on the Symphony House...

Anything curved like that is sexy!

[theWatusi]

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/Swinefeld/New%20Constructon/MuranoMarch02.jpg



Check out the gap between the window frame and the concrete(actually looks like it is shimmed). This makes me believe they will install some kind of cap over the concrete from floor to floor.

[BayRidgeFever]

^Probably...they do that in NY all the time

[Palms]

That would be logical, that would be a pretty tedious paint job. I would think the early arrival of the windows might be marketing ploy.

[PhillyRising]

At least the windows on this look nice..........

[CondoGuru]

This thread is hilarious. If things move slowly, a project is canned, if things progess quickly, it's a "marketing ploy." LOL

[apetrella802]

i am sure the financial demands related to construction of this project do not allow for any marketing ploys

[sciguy0504]

From a distance, IMO, the concrete looks like a light granite or limestone. Maybe I'm getting my rock mixed up.

[DocAwesome]

My idea of a good time is to build skyscrapers with limestone supports.

I do wonder about the promptness of the glass, and it's not that I think that this project is being completed too quickly, as opposed to too slowly. The insides of the building, and the hoisting of stuff, generally gets created quicker without glass getting in the way. Rabid generalization, maybe, but meh.

I do expect that the first floor was iced quicker than usual to show it off, and perhaps give them a sampling in case they needed an alteration in the future. In any case, it wouldn't be suprised if the remainder of the floors icing is sig slower. I imagine the concentration should be on the concrete and the guts of the building anywho.

[CondoGuru]

My idea of a good time is to build skyscrapers with limestone supports.

I do wonder about the promptness of the glass, and it's not that I think that this project is being completed too quickly, as opposed to too slowly. The insides of the building, and the hoisting of stuff, generally gets created quicker without glass getting in the way. Rabid generalization, maybe, but meh.

I do expect that the first floor was iced quicker than usual to show it off, and perhaps give them a sampling in case they needed an alteration in the future. In any case, it wouldn't be suprised if the remainder of the floors icing is sig slower. I imagine the concentration should be on the concrete and the guts of the building anywho.

Actually, the timing of the outer walls (i.e. glass in this case), is perfectly normal. This building doesn't have to close itself up will walls and insert glass windows later on down the line. The entire building's outer walls ARE glass "curtain walls." As a result, you'll see these "walls" follow the pace of the floors being poured above them. Opposite of that was Symphony House. They had to close up the building before putting glass in but the glass windows were not their walls. The pretty pink walls started going up fairly quickly over there. We just didn't see glass until they had the walls to put them in. And with Comcast, they started putting glass up long before topping out as well because the outer walls are also glass. So these are completely different designs employing completely different methods that cannot be compared.

[JMininger]

I do not believe there is anything unusual about the glass going in when it did. Certainly, they scheduled it to go in as early as possible but I do not think it was put in lieu of something more critical ... the floor appears ready for it and the glass was available. The crew installing the glass is certainly not the same crew responsible for the concrete so putting in the glass should not affect anything. I would guess that the crew putting in the glass is not the same crew responsible for many other things that needs to be done in the interior. Putting in the glass is not going to hold anything up. In addition, this is not a big building (it may be tall but it certainly doesn't have the square footage per floor of most of the tall buildings in Philly) and the exterior is not an all glass curtain wall ... it didn't take a lot of panels to get the first floor done that is for sure.

[CondoGuru]

I do not believe there is anything unusual about the glass going in when it did. Certainly, they scheduled it to go in as early as possible but I do not think it was put in lieu of something more critical ... the floor appears ready for it and the glass was available. The crew installing the glass is certainly not the same crew responsible for the concrete so putting in the glass should not affect anything. I would guess that the crew putting in the glass is not the same crew responsible for many other things that needs to be done in the interior. Putting in the glass is not going to hold anything up. In addition, this is not a big building (it may be tall but it certainly doesn't have the square footage per floor of most of the tall buildings in Philly) and the exterior is not an all glass curtain wall ... it didn't take a lot of panels to get the first floor done that is for sure.

You can actually see the guys working on the framing on the 3rd floor right now. This building does have a curtain wall system, but it's horizontal, not vertical. Meaning, the curtain walls are installed and run horizontally around the building, not vertically, from the ground to the roof. This is much easier and less complicated than hanging vertical curtain frames. You can acutally glass the building this way long before it's topped out. As in the case of 101 Walnut for instance, which uses a vertical curtain wall with spandrel glass in between floors, they had to top out before hanging the curtain wall frames...very time consuming, but again, not such a huge building to glass anyway.

[apetrella802]

in reference to the Murano curtain wall

St. James Apt. Bld.
Reinforced Concrete Framing
Load Bearing System, i.e., the RC framing system, Provides both Structure & Enclosure, windows complete the enclosure but are only part of it

One Liberty Place
Steel Framing
Load Bearing System, i.e., steel framing, Provides Structure only
Curtain Wall of Glass and granite Provides Enclosure

it gets ugly but it is a fundemental difference http://people.cornell.edu/pages/jo24/comments/curtainwall.html

[CondoGuru]

in reference to the Murano curtain wall

St. James Apt. Bld.
Reinforced Concrete Framing
Load Bearing System, i.e., the RC framing system, Provides both Structure & Enclosure, windows complete the enclosure but are only part of it

One Liberty Place
Steel Framing
Load Bearing System, i.e., steel framing, Provides Structure only
Curtain Wall of Glass and granite Provides Enclosure

it gets ugly but it is a fundemental difference http://people.cornell.edu/pages/jo24/comments/curtainwall.html


Yes, but the St. James does not employ the same system as the Murano. The St. James, as you pointed out, has exterior concrete framing for its windows, Murano does not. One Liberty Place is steel, but its glass exterior is a VERTICAL curtain wall with SPANDREL glass over the floors. Murano's spandrels are exposed concrete, which makes it necessary to install a horizontal curtain wall BETWEEN floors, not over them. Tip: do a quick driveby of 101 Walnut to see the difference between a vertical (floor to roof) and horizontal curtainwall.

[CondoGuru]

They're putting glass on the 3rd floor right now. The windows appear taller than the ones below on the 2nd floor. Interesting...

[Swinefeld]

March 17th and now on the 10th floor.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/Swinefeld/New%20Constructon/Murano031701.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/Swinefeld/New%20Constructon/Murano031702.jpg

[theWatusi]

:previous: I see they are blocking up the 2nd and 3rd floor on the JFK side. Will there be a multi story parking structure located there(In the space between Murano and JFK)?

[brenster]

that is where they are putting the parking garage, i think it goes up 6 stories

[H-Ville Man]

This thing is sprouting up like a weed.....

Anyone know when this will top out?

[buildup]

They could be enclosing the first 4 floors to the next concrete band to get some actual units finished to show for sales.

[CondoGuru]

According to a salersperson, that north wall they're closing in is for the residential storage units adjacent to the garage complex they're about to start on. She said there aren't any units on the north side below the 7th floor, but it's hard to tell when you look at the plans on their site to see which is north and which is south.

[theWatusi]

but it's hard to tell when you look at the plans on their site to see which is north and which is south.

The curved end is West, the flat end East

[volguus zildrohar]

March 18

http://www.pbase.com/phillytrax/image/75962874.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/phillytrax/image/75962875/original.jpg

[Eigenwelt]

Awesome puddle shot Steve.

[buildup]

Market Street would be the south face while JFK Blvd. would be the north face.

[phillyskyline]

I wonder how much longer until this highrise starts making an impression on the skyline - maybe a month away? Great pics btw.

[Londonee]

Progress seems to have really slowed on the vertical progress of the building. Looking back through the thread, there were pictures over 2 1/2 weeks ago showing the building at the 10th floor.

initial construction estimates said that they would be doing a floor every 4-5 days which would put us around the 13th or 14th floor by now. is there something particularly tricky about the 11th floor? --or are they concentrating their efforts right now on doing stuff to the lower floors--like installing windows etc.?

I'm excited to see this thing break through in the skyline.

[CondoGuru]

[QUOTE=Londonee;2709526]Progress seems to have really slowed on the vertical progress of the building. Looking back through the thread, there were pictures over 2 1/2 weeks ago showing the building at the 10th floor.

Actually, they're working on the 12th floor right now. But yes, it looks like they're a floor or two behined...it's called snow. ;)

[russbaseball]

yup and ther slapping that glass up asap they finnished the 4th floor.. looks better and better w each floor..

[CondoGuru]

I noticed today that they're really tearin up that area where the garage is going to be...

[gbayard]

This project looks great. I wish I could afford it.

[bryson662001]

This project is reminding me of a mini-Trump Tower Chicago.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k50/bryson662001/03-25-07.jpg

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k50/bryson662001/1234.jpg

[ATLksuGUY]

Just wondering guys. Ive never been to dubai but it looks like a dusty place, is there any concern that these glass buildings are gonna require more maintainance than usual because of the sand?

[theWatusi]

Just wondering guys. Ive never been to dubai but it looks like a dusty place, is there any concern that these glass buildings are gonna require more maintainance than usual because of the sand?

No, I dont think the global weather patterns are strong enough to warrant concern of Dubai sand in Philly

[philliesphinest]

I know this was discussed to some degree earlier in the thread but I was wondering if anyone has anyone found out any information whether they were covering those exposed concrete sections or painting them. I have to say I was hoping glass would cover everything as it appeared on their building sketch.

[pentopaper50]

The building sketch does not show all glass. Besides, I think they'll put something shiny over the concrete portions. There appears to be slots all around the windows for special coverings of some sort.

The building still looks amazing even without any kind of finish for the concrete portion. Walk by the structure on a nice, clear day and you'll see what I mean...the photos don't do it justice...

[Eigenwelt]

I agree, the renderings clearly show exposed concrete (or at least capped concrete).

Williamphila's collage of various Murano ads:

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/956/moremurano9kq4yt.jpg

[drgoogle]

i hope they do some kind of covering as well. I'm not diggin the exposed concrete.

The building sketch does not show all glass. Besides, I think they'll put something shiny over the concrete portions. There appears to be slots all around the windows for special coverings of some sort.

The building still looks amazing even without any kind of finish for the concrete portion. Walk by the structure on a nice, clear day and you'll see what I mean...the photos don't do it justice...

[phillyskyline]

This thing is so sexy I don't mind the exposed concrete, I know there's no point, but I wish this sucker was taller, I love it's curves so much, just wish it could make more of an impression on the skyline. I wouldn't even mind if this building was next to Cira or on the waterfront - it deserves to standout!

[philliesphinest]

Don't get me wrong I love the design and I am sure once its finished it will be amazing. I need to get down there and check it out it person.

[SJPhillyBoy]

This thing is so sexy I don't mind the exposed concrete, I know there's no point, but I wish this sucker was taller, I love it's curves so much, just wish it could make more of an impression on the skyline. I wouldn't even mind if this building was next to Cira or on the waterfront - it deserves to standout!
It would be nice if it was more prominent height wise on the skyline, but at 475 feet, it is no shrimp either.

[phillyskyline]

It would be nice if it was more prominent height wise on the skyline, but at 475 feet, it is no shrimp either.

You right that at 475 feet - Murano is not small. But it's on JFK Blvd, this is the perfect location to build towards the sky! No nimby neighbors & it's next to other highrises.

[tower]

3/27

http://www.pbase.com/image/76322788.jpg

i apologize for the strange airborne object that has a striking resemblance to myself

[Eigenwelt]

/\ hah.

And look at that glass... so damn blue!

[Pinoy2.0]

Thanks for the updated picture. So ,by the looks of it, Murano is a little over 6' tall now. What is this...a center for ANTS?!?

[hi123]

^ Zoolander :haha:

[SJPhillyBoy]

Wow, tower can almost jump high enough to touch the 12th floor of the Murano. Did you ever think about trying out for the Sixers?

[sciguy0504]

Hi, tower. Can I take a walk down your happy trail?

Anyway, I got kind of scared seeing that blank wall and then remembered that's where the parking garage was attached to the building. Damn Beaumont Syndrome.

[russbaseball]

up to the 14th today and 5th on glass started

[MJPhilly]

This thing is getting big. I've been slacking off in favor of Comcast photos. I really need to get over there.

[brenster]

http://themuranocondominium.com/

Has anyone noticed that they have a contruction tab on the offical web site, its pretty cool, it goes through a slide show starting from the start of contruction to the present. the last picture seems pretty up to date.

Also, when is the completion date scheduled for, i may finally plop some money down on this project?

[Joey D]

3/27

http://www.pbase.com/image/76322788.jpg

i apologize for the strange airborne object that has a striking resemblance to myself

Is that you? It doesn't look like you.

[drgoogle]

My guess is March 2008.

http://themuranocondominium.com/

Has anyone noticed that they have a contruction tab on the offical web site, its pretty cool, it goes through a slide show starting from the start of contruction to the present. the last picture seems pretty up to date.

Also, when is the completion date scheduled for, i may finally plop some money down on this project?

[sjones]

its amazing to see how small the floorplates are on Murano compared to the nearby office buildings. This building is going to look very skinny compared to its neighbors but that may make it seem taller which is a good thing. Without the garage the lot looks huge in comparion to the structure itself.

[bryson662001]

its amazing to see how small the floorplates are on Murano compared to the nearby office buildings. This building is going to look very skinny compared to its neighbors but that may make it seem taller which is a good thing. Without the garage the lot looks huge in comparion to the structure itself.That's probably why it is going up so fast. I have never seen a poured -in-place concrete building go this fast.

[Ghost]

That glass looks amazing! Keep updates coming, I'm really interested in this project.

[giamomj]

Bet it's happy, alright.

On a another note - what did you do, Tower? Jump up off the rail? I hope you came down to a safe landing! Maybe the owners of Murano will give you a free condo if that photo can be used in their advertising somehow?

Gia

:notacrook:

[russbaseball]

ok ok anyways...


the MURANO is looking great.