SAN FRANCISCO | 301 Mission Street | 645 FT / 197 M | 60 FLOORS

[FourOneFive]

Here are some new renderings of 301 Mission Street. Enjoy!

http://static.flickr.com/49/169714094_fc1a7cb0f0_o.jpghttp://static.flickr.com/55/169714092_4d6727f252_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/75/169714096_691eb94794_o.jpg

Description:

This mixed-use project consists of a 58-story residential tower, a nine-story podium with residential apartments and amenities, and a public, two-story glass atrium. The design creates a significant architectural landmark for the upcoming redevelopment of the Transbay Terminal district.

At 645 feet, the tower will be the fourth-tallest structure on the city's skyline. The project includes 437 condominium units, 18,900 square feet of amenity space, and 8,000 square feet of retail space. Underground, a five-level parking garage would hold 350 cars.

The design creates a significant architectural landmark for the upcoming redevelopment of the Transbay Terminal district. The goal is to physically and visually enhance the quality of the street life surrounding the site. By setting back the entry to the central atrium and widening the sidewalk, the design for the ground floor plan encourages the use of the streetscape as a gathering place.

The tower's exterior design creates the impression of a translucent crystal. Delicately detailed and taut in character, the exterior materials will incorporate a variety of glass and metal fins to craft a sense of lightness and transparency. The tower's slender proportions, combined with clean lines and sleek profile, will visually reinforce the elegance of the tower's crystalline character and enhance the skyline as an architectural landmark. The overall perception of the tower's silhouette shifts with changing light of the sky.

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The project should begin construction in June!

[Fabb]

It's very refined. I like it !

[ScreamShatter]

i really really like this one too

[igzaklee]

some glass for SF! :)

[Fabb]

The curtain wall looks sophisticated.
Hopefully it'll keep its promises.

[fflint]

some glass for SF! :)

Finally!

[kazpmk]

It's late June. What's the latest on this tower??? Does the site currently have a building on it that has to be demolished??

[texasboy]

san fran already has a pretty face, but some projects in the downtown area that will be built in this decade will definitely change the face of the city. well atleast the skyline when coming across the bay bridge.

[dabcom]

Still no sign of construction, what's going on?!

[urbanlife]

okay, so I have to say it. That is one sexy tower. Gonna love seeing that in the skyline.

[Xeelee]

nbice

[RBR]

Has construction started yet?

[cityguy]

Very nice addition to the skyline.

[Jonovision]

really nice tower

[giallo]

I love the facade. This will look great in SF.

Once again, are there any pictures of the lot? Have they begun digging?

[Jasonhouse]

SFers don't like thier setbacks, but this towers looks ot be much sleeker than a typical SF box. And the varied curtain wall treatments helps break up the mass, with the angled moduation giving it a faux setback look. It looks very modern and nice.

[tayser]

what a good looker. noice, unjoosual, noice.

[Irwin]

It's fine. It might look better once it's finished.

[FourOneFive]

From this week's San Francisco Business Times:

Condo tower ready to soar
After four years, group to start work on 58-story project
Lizette Wilson

Construction of San Francisco's tallest residential building is set to begin in September.

Towering above neighboring developments and redefining the city's skyline, the Millennium Tower at 301 Mission St. will pack 420 condos into a building extending 645 feet in the sky -- an engineering feat that also makes the building the city's fourth highest.

Demolition of vacant buildings and other site work begins Aug. 1.

New York-based Millennium Partners, which also created the nearby Four Seasons Hotel and Residences and the Metreon, is developing the $400 million project. It was designed by Handel Architects of New York and is being built by Webcor Builders of San Mateo. Financing was arranged and led by HSBC Group and Bank of America.

"It's a structural science project once you get up that high," said Sean Jeffries, a principal with Millennium Partners. "We've been working on this for four years and can't wait to get it officially commenced."

Demolition at the one-acre parcel bounded by Fremont and Beale streets begins Aug. 1, with Webcor crews clearing three vacant buildings from the site. Official groundbreaking is slated for September with construction expected to finish in late 2008 or 2009.

Shuttering earlier plans to include hotel and office space, the development will be all condos -- one-, two- and three-bedroom units ranging from 700 square feet to 6,000 square feet.

Millennium Partners is still determining the pricing as well as the availability of the units. Although Millennium intends to sell the units, principals are reserving the right to also rent some, depending on market conditions.

Indeed, the Bay Area's overheated housing market could cool considerably in the next three or four years, particularly in San Francisco.

Nearly 30,000 units are in the city's project pipeline now, with nearly two dozen multi-family residential projects already under construction.

Of those units, some 1,500 -- all located in Mission Bay and developed by the likes of Bosa, Signature Properties, Avalon Bay, Urban Housing Group and IntraCorp -- will be coming to market with similar upscale residences in 2007.

Tishman Speyer's high rise at 300 Spear Street -- a $450 million development standing as high as 450 feet -- will also be completing construction in 2007, with 656 upscale condos hitting the market in October.

Jeffries said Millennium is continuing to monitor the market's appetite and for now, thinks it will remain as voracious as it has for the past few years.

Case in point?

Centurion Real Estate Partners, which purchased the Beacon ealier this year, has sold 286 of the 304 units in the west tower since March. The group will begin marketing the 304 units in the east tower in September (renters still occupy most of them, and have been given notice), but has already sold 50.

"It appears that the more that's being constructed and the more people you bring downtown ,the more there's a demand for it," Jeffries said. "It's feeding on itself."

And with and 11-story tower and a 58-story tower, the Millennium project will be quite a mouthful.

The development will reach 645 feet at its peak, making it the fourth tallest building in the city following the Transamerica Pyramid and the Bank of America building, which reach 853 feet and 779 feet respectively. It will be the tallest building constructed since California Center, which stands at 695 feet, was completed in 1986.

Lizette Wilson covers real estate for the San Francisco Business Times.
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Yay! :D

[rocketman_95046]

The good news deserves one more angle...:D

http://www.smwinc.com/projects/img/301-mission-photo.jpg

[Marvel 33]

That is a nice tower. Sleek, tall, modern and simple. It'll be a nice addition for that part of town.

[Michi]

Hansome tower. I dont' know much of the San Fran skyline, but it seems as if it could use a little more all-glass additions.

I like the slanted texture of the glass in the first photo.

[wolfram]

i'm not excited about it.

it's a generic box updated with a modestly articulated skin and currently-trendy (and pointless) sloped portions at the top.

doesn't offend. doesn't inspire.

[J Church]

demolition is underway:

http://www.sfcityscape.com/forum/050805_const_pics/301_mission.jpg

[FourOneFive]

we should post a pic of the original proposal for 301 mission.

http://www.robertbecker.com/KMDkwocb.JPG

[Fabb]

The original design reminds me of a few HK skyscrapers built 15 years ago. I'm glad it was rejected.

[Raraavis]

It's ugly. Perhaps those are just bad renderings but it looks very plain. It doesn't look residential at all, it looks like a office building that the architect made glass because that is what is in right now. The original design is a little bit better but not great.

San Francisco could do better.

[ltsmotorsport]

Com'n now. We all know that buildings tend to look different when completed then from what they look like in the renderings. St. Regis in SF is my example. It looks amazing now that it's finished.

[igzaklee]

something glassy-blue in SF??


you kidding me?!?!?!


:)

[fflint]

San Francisco is relatively conservative when it comes to skyscraper design--you're just not going to have a Freedom Tower or Fordham Spire here.

[FlyersFan118]

Bootiful!!

[RBR]

Looks more like a LA building, but i am glad SF is getting it cause i think SF needs more buildings like that.

[fflint]

LA has 58-story glass condo towers?

[colemonkee]

^I wish!

[RBR]

LA has 58-story glass condo towers?

When you look at the skyline it don't matter whats inside lol, yes LA has some nice glass towers like cal plaza and gas company. I think it would look good along side those.

[StevenW]

I love that tower! Can't wait till it's in the skyline of the most beautiful city on earth! :D

Go San Francisco! :)

[fflint]

LA has 58-story glass condo towers?

When you look at the skyline it don't matter whats inside lol, yes LA has some nice glass towers like cal plaza and gas company. I think it would look good along side those.

301 Mission looks a lot more like San Francisco's 101 California Street than any of the LA buildings you've mentioned:

http://www.handelarchitects.com/project/400x300/301%20Mission%20&%20First.jpg

http://www.skyscrapers.cn/images/na/usa/san/101_California_Street3.jpg

[RBR]

wow your so precise... glass is glass, LA has more glass buildings then SF so be glad your getting it.

[fflint]

Glass may be glass, and LA may have more of it, but 301 Mission doesn't look like an LA building any more than it looks like a San Francisco building. And yes, I'm glad they're adding 301 Mission to the West Coast's best downtown.

[Fabb]

The reason why 301 Mission looks unusual in San Francisco is that no significant skyscraper has been added to the city since the postmodern era.
Unless I'm mistaken.

[fflint]

Well, the St. Regis Museum Tower is significant--it stands out, has a unique shape, has a brightly-lit crown at night, and is just shy of 500 feet--but yeah, 301 Mish will be bigger, better and a more impressive skyline-shaper.

[ltsmotorsport]

Is St. Regis really the only one? It's all I can think of too.

[Chase Unperson]

The reason why 301 Mission looks unusual in San Francisco is that no significant skyscraper has been added to the city since the postmodern era.
Unless I'm mistaken.

I think the 4 seasons is quite stunning.

[J Church]

st. regis is the only one approaching 500'. there have been a couple more recent towers > 400 (four seasons, btw, is 398ft).

[Chase Unperson]

^well the four seasons is the nicest almost 400 ft building that's been built in a long time.

[J Church]

yeah, i like it too.

http://www.sfcityscape.com/forum/050805_const_pics/yerba_buena_pano.jpg

that's four seasons second from left and the st. regis third from right. actually, in this pic you can see six towers > 300' built in the last six years (the W, at right, the paramount, left of st. regis, and 55 and 101 second, the bluish-green buildings in the background).

[phillyskyline]

Damn - it looks a lot like the proposed Residences at the Ritz Carlton in Philly.... I wonder if they both had the same architect?

[urban_encounter]

LA has 58-story glass condo towers?




I'm with you fflint.

I think 301 Mission is a nice looking tower and a great addtion to the SF skyline.

Any West Coast City would be fortunate to have such a sharp looking tower on it's DT skyline.

[RBR]

Glass may be glass, and LA may have more of it, but 301 Mission doesn't look like an LA building any more than it looks like a San Francisco building. And yes, I'm glad they're adding 301 Mission to the West Coast's best downtown.

Lets just say SF needs this one more then LA and leave at that. I think we all agree that it will be a great addition to the SF skyline not only because it looks good but because of its location aswell.

[rocketman_95046]

some demo pics that TeknoTurd found...


http://static.flickr.com/22/39490122_fd6e75c0ad.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/27/39489940_f137003705_d.jpg

[rocketman_95046]

Webcor Builders first update for 301 mission ....



301 MISSION STREET, SAN FRANCISCO, CA
Project is a mixed use facility consisting of a 58 story tower and an 11 story midrise tower connected by a 3 level podium, over 5 stories of underground parking. Total area is approximately 1,150,000 square feet.
UPDATE
We currently have 2 tower cranes planned 2 double man lifts for the high rise and 1 single car for the mid rise.

Webcor concrete has planned for a Peri self climbing elevator core system for the high rise and 2 sets of flying forms. We are currently planning to hand set the forms for the mid-rise (gang forms, etc, but no flyers or
self erecting core systems)

The garage is an internally braced soil cement slurry wall system with soldier piles 5’ OC and the High Rise foundation is a soil cement slurry wall system with soldier piles 5’ OC with a few rakers and the balance of the hole supported with a single row of tiebacks. Both of these perimeter wall systems are augured 3’ diameter overlapping holes creating a continuous wall.


We are currently showing a 5 day floor cycle for the construction of the high rise, and a 5 day per floor cycle for the curtain Wall and all interior finishes

[urban_encounter]

Exciting addition to the SF skyline.


Do you have pictures of the site or artist renderings for people who might not have seen 301 Mission???


It's going to be a sharp looking tower.

[colemonkee]

^ check the first post of this thread.

[RBR]

Any updates?

[EastBayHardCore]

It's officially U/C. I believe they're diggin the basement and garage now.

[Fabb]

We are currently showing a 5 day floor cycle for the construction of the high rise

So, are still digging the basement, or building above ground ?

[rocketman_95046]

^no they are still digging. what is quoted is the "plan" for what will happen

i guess i never posted the second update from webcor. It is over a month old but this is it....

UPDATE

We currently have 2 tower cranes planned 2 double man lifts for the high rise and 1 single car for the mid rise.

Webcor concrete has planned for a Peri self climbing elevator core system for the high rise and 2 sets of flying forms. We are currently planning to hand set the forms for the mid-rise gang forms, etc, but no flyers or self erecting core systems.

The garage is an internally braced soil cement slurry wall system with soldier piles 5’ OC and the High Rise foundation is a soil cement slurry wall system with soldier piles 5’ OC with a few rakers and the balance of the hole supported with a single row of tiebacks. Both of these perimeter wall systems are augured 3’ diameter overlapping holes creating a continuous wall.

We are currently showing a 5 day floor cycle for the construction of the high rise, and a 5 day per floor cycle for the curtain Wall and all interior finishes.

Demolition had has been completed Thursday, September 15, 2005, and the Excavation phase of the project will begin Monday, September 19, 2005.

http://www.webcor.com/auto_images/large/sitefrmbealest_pedestrianbridge21126887201.jpg

[Fabb]

They have a jargon of their own, but the update is always appreciated.

[FourOneFive]

does anyone have any updates for 301 mission? have they begun drilling yet?

[rocketman_95046]

latest webcor update for 310 mission...bad update but at least the hole is getting bigger...

Condon Johnson and Associate began shoring work for 301 Mission November 28, 2005
http://www.webcor.com/auto_images/large/301mission12_1_051135018095.jpg

[RafflesCity]

nice sleek and glassy :)

[The Cheat]

I do like the glass, as long as it's not a boring box with flat sides. I will have to check out the site the next time I'm in SF. Someone needs to go down there and take pictures. :)

[fflint]

I do like the glass, as long as it's not a boring box with flat sides. I will have to check out the site the next time I'm in SF. Someone needs to go down there and take pictures. :)

I'm on winter break and my camera is sitting right next to me. The thing is, it's been raining for a week--if there aren't a couple dry days I won't be able to do it.

[The Cheat]

I'm just saying I'll be checking it out when I'm there. They're going to be digging a hole for a few months so I'm not sure if there will be much to see except for excavation equipment.

[The Cheat]

http://svmetro.com/photos/san_francisco-2006-01/301_mission-panorama-small.jpg (http://svmetro.com/photos/san_francisco-2006-01/301_mission-panorama-medium.jpg)
Enlarge (http://svmetro.com/photos/san_francisco-2006-01/301_mission-panorama-medium.jpg)
Sunday, January 8, 2006

[rocketman_95046]

Great shot.. thanks for the update.:cheers:

[Fabb]

I thought the site was smaller, considering how slender the building looks.

[rocketman_95046]

^remember that there is a 58 story tower and an 11 story midrise tower for this project.

http://www.handelarchitects.com/project/400x300/301Slide27.jpg

[Fabb]

^remember that there is a 58 story tower and an 11 story midrise tower for this project.

Right. It makes sense in that case.

I love the angular top of the tower. It'll have a nice silhouette.

[BANKofMANHATTAN]

I'd like to see San Fran w/ 1 or 2 more spired towers. i think it would change things up nicely. (not that there aren't great things already happening) :)

[Jularc]

Wow that is some building! :tup:

[sf_eddo]

Random Update on 301 Mish, two nights ago, while drilling, they hit a water pipe, flooded part of Mission Street, and closed it off between 1st and Beale until this morning. This is the second "water" incident in the past couple of months, as before, they hit another watermain (or something) and a fire hydrant exploded (with water) on Mission and Beale creating a huge plume of water into the street.

I've never had my camera at these moments, or else I would have taken pictures, but my office's water had to be turned off a couple times as a result.

Is this common?

[Fabb]

I hope that those incidents won't result in delays. I'd hate that.

[StevenW]

Awesome project. Can't wait to see it in the skyline. :)

[trvlr70]

This is definitely a tall residential for California. The height definitely approaches the NYC/Chicago standards.

I like the building, but almost wish is was more daring or less looked like an office building.

[tech12]

This is definitely a tall residential for California. The height definitely approaches the NYC/Chicago standards.

I like the building, but almost wish is was more daring or less looked like an office building.

Well, it was originally gonna be office/hotel/retail, if i'm not mistaken, so the look makes sense. I like it though, we're finally getting some shiny blue glass.

[SFAttorney]

I can see the construction of both 301 Mission and 300 Spear from my office window. They are digging the foundation of 301 Mission now. I don't think there is a crane. The weather has been gross lately so I think things are slowing down. The cranes are up and running at 300 Spear-- that is a much much larger construction site, which makes sense given it will be two towers. They also finally gave the go-ahead to Rincon Hill.

I will try to get some pics soon (when the weather clears).

[EastBayHardCore]

I totally missed the Rincon Hill news, where'd you catch that? BTW, welcome and thanks for the updates. Lookin' forward to those pics.

[SFAttorney]

Thanks for the kind words. Here is an article from the Chron...

SAN FRANCISCO
High-rises pass city's seismic muster
Few hurdles remain for permit to build Rincon Hill condos
Charlie Goodyear, Chronicle Staff Writer

Monday, January 9, 2006

San Francisco is on the verge of giving final permission for two high-rise apartment towers on Rincon Hill after construction permits had been held up as building inspectors sought assurances about how well the development would ride out a major earthquake, The Chronicle has learned.

In an e-mail last month, chief building engineer Hanson Tom said that once the developer of One Rincon Hill satisfies nonseismic issues raised by the fire and planning departments -- such as building access for firefighters -- "the Site Permit will be issued" by the city Department of Building Inspection.

And on Friday, Tom and building inspection department chief Amy Lee said in a brief telephone interview that city building inspectors are satisfied that the unique design of the towers is structurally sound.

The One Rincon Hill towers at First and Harrison streets -- one rising 55 stories and the other 45 stories -- would be the first in the city to use a construction technique that provides most of the buildings' strength from a central concrete core.

Although a panel of engineering experts convened to advise the city had signed off on the engineering, city building inspectors sought additional assurances that the buildings wouldn't only weather a large temblor without collapsing but also could remain habitable after the shaking stops.

The city Planning Commission approved the project Aug. 8, three days after the Board of Supervisors passed an overall development plan for Rincon Hill that embraces such towers. The board vote followed an agreement brokered by Supervisor Chris Daly that boosted the fees Rincon Hill developers would pay the city from $14 to $25 per square foot.

One Rincon Hill developer Michael Kriozere agreed to pay $20 million into a city affordable-housing fund and $18 million toward community improvements and other programs that are supposed to address negative economic impacts that the project could have on low- and moderate-income South of Market residents.

One Rincon Hill's taller tower would contain 376 condominiums, and the other tower would contain 319 luxury condos. Both would be built on a platform containing a parking garage and ringed by townhouses. Units in the complex could sell for $1 million.

In November, Mayor Gavin Newsom and Daly, whose district includes the project, joined the developer for a ceremonial groundbreaking at the site -- heralding One Rincon Hill as an example of forward-thinking architecture expected to revitalize a downtown neighborhood while providing more housing.

But a week later, on Nov. 17, Tom, the chief engineer at the building inspection department, ordered that no construction permit be issued without his authorization, after he raised questions about whether the city was requiring sufficient seismic safety standards to guard against both injury and property damage.

"We are establishing precedent in the way high-rise condominiums are being built in California and need to adhere to a standard of care that considers public safety first," Tom said of the One Rincon Hill project in an e-mail before issuing the do-not-issue order.

After The Chronicle reported building inspectors' concerns early last month, Supervisor Sophie Maxwell, chairwoman of the Board of Supervisors committee with jurisdiction over land use and development, said she wanted to hold a public hearing on the issues being raised by building inspectors.

But on Dec. 19, after seeking additional assurances from the engineering firm Kriozere hired for the One Rincon Hill project, Tom advised a representative for the developer by e-mail that the final construction site permit would be issued once some final nonseismic related questions raised by the fire and planning departments were resolved.

Maxwell was scheduled to receive a briefing from building inspectors today and it was unclear whether she would go forward with a public hearing on the matter.

Julie Chase, a spokeswoman for the developer, said news stories about building inspector inquiries were unfairly creating an incorrect impression that the engineering behind One Rincon Hill -- which has been used elsewhere in the country and will be used by other developers in the city -- might not be suited to earthquake-prone San Francisco.

"Pioneers get the arrows," Chase said.

Late last month, the city also received from the developer the first installment of the affordable housing fees for One Rincon Hill -- a payment of $11,260,146.

Steven Vettel, a lawyer for the developer, and Matt Franklin, director of the Mayor's Office of Housing, said the timing of the payment -- before issuing a final construction permit -- was not meant to influence and would have no bearing on the decision-making at the Department of Building Inspection.

Vettel said the timing of the payment saved the developer money on interest costs under its agreement with San Francisco.

"We're certainly not creating any expectations," Franklin said. "We have confidence that (the Department of Building Inspections) is doing a very thorough job of reviewing the project and that the most important thing in their mind and our mind is that it be done right. We're not at all concerned about the timeline."

[StevenW]

What is the total sq. footage of this tower?
http://www.smwinc.com/projects/img/301-mission-photo.jpg

[SFAttorney]

http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/sfskyscraperpics/photos/view/e60f?b=1

[EastBayHardCore]

SFAttorney: The pic doesn't seem to be loading. Perhaps try http://imageshack.us

[SFAttorney]

http://http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4093/img610729ye.th.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img610729ye.jpg)

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7618/img610927lu.th.jpg (http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img610927lu.jpg)

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8858/img611520oh.th.jpg (http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img611520oh.jpg)

[SFAttorney]

Why is it such a pain to post pics? I have done my best above-- if someone could give me some advice i could post largers ones. Sorry.

[rocketman_95046]

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4093/img610729ye.jpg

here it is.

all you do is find the URL for the picture by right clicking on the photo and click on properties. and then bracketing the url with URL . You were really close.

thanks for the update.

[EastBayHardCore]

Don't worry about the pics, it'll take a few tries to get the hang of it. Thanks for the update!

[fflint]

Very cool update pics. Any from up above? ;)

[sf_eddo]

Yep, here goes, 25 floors up, I'm assuming around 400 feet:

http://static.flickr.com/29/97230977_1f34ee54e1_b.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/38/97230976_cf81c6c6e4_b.jpg

I don't know how to get rid of the glare from the windows. Incidentally, you can also see my Vespa, her name's Gouda, parked on Beale, right underneath the bus lanes in the upper-middle, across the street from Beale Street Bar. I <3 Gouda. :tup:

[fflint]

You know, that is a surprisingly small-looking footprint for a project that consists of a 645-foot, 58 story tower with an 11-story accessory building.

[tech12]

sexxay pics man!

It's gonna be nice watching that thing rise with a 25th floor view:D

[sf_eddo]

tech12, thanks! yeah, i get really distracted by the view... see: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=98088

[SFAttorney]

what building are you in? 333 Market? I hope the new building does not block your view. Have you been over to 300 Spear? It makes the Mission Street project look like a child's sand box.

I sounded like they started pile-driving yesterday-- is that a new thing, or was it the first time I could hear it (from 1 Cali-- US Bank Building).

[sf_eddo]

tech12, my cubicle is on the 25th floor, but my company takes up floors 25 thru 40, so i get to see that sucker rise all the way to the top! (if I'm still here, that is)

SFAttorney, I'm in 50 Fremont.

i think the pile driving is actually from the project behind the transbay terminal... i'm not actually sure what project it is.

and yes, the 301 Mission tower will block my views, but hey, who knows where I'll be in a couple years or so, eh?

[kazpmk]

I went through this thread and it appears only excavation occured in the site during 2005. Is that right? Has actual foundation work even started yet?

[EastBayHardCore]

I don't think so. Last time I went by a few weeks ago it was a big mud pit.

[rocketman_95046]

The San Francisco Building and Construction Trades Council reports that American Piledriving and the members of Local 34 have begun driving pile.

http://www.sfbctc.org/32006-residential2.jpg

http://www.sfbctc.org/32006-residential.htm

[Spooky873]

looks like the west coast is gettin some action, i didnt know about this one.

[dabcom]

It seems like this project is going rather slowly. All they've been doing is digging for the last 3 or 4 months.

[Jasonhouse]

http://static.flickr.com/29/97230977_1f34ee54e1_b.jpg
:

I hate reposting pics but.... WHAT is up with the cars in the parking lot in the upper left of that pic?

[EastBayHardCore]

That's surface parking South of Market. Of the surface lots in the area, most are crammed with cars in a similar fashion.