[St. John's] 351 Water Street | 12 Floors | U/C

[Architype]

351 Water Street, East Port Properties - Woolworth's Site Office Development
11-12 stories, 46.6 meters (top of mech. penthouse), 6 parking levels, retail and about 160,000 sq ft of class A office space.

Developers website: http://threefiftyone.ca/

This project is already under construction.

The development will front on Water Street and Harbour Drive.

Announced Feb 4th, 2010; this is an office/retail/parking development on the old Woolworth's Dept. Store site.


http://www.pbase.com/image/142054139/original.jpg
View from Harbour Drive
Source: http://threefiftyone.ca/


Building Heights
From Harbour Drive, From Water Street
Parking Levels 19.1 metres, 15.5 metres
Office Levels 24.1 metres, 24.1 metres
Total to main roof parapet - 43.2 metres, 39.6 metres
Top incl. mech penthouse, Water Street - 43.0
Top incl. mech penthouse, Harbour Drive - 46.6 metres

Source: Land Use Assesment Report for 351 Water Street:
http://www.stjohns.ca/pdfs/1832-01%20LUAR%20FINAL_351%20Water%20St.%202010%20May%2028.pdf

[Mike K.]

Cool :) Btw, for ease of readability I've changed to prefix to [St. John's] and title to [St. John's] 351 Water Street | 12-floors | Proposed to coincide with the thread naming guidelines in place in SSP:Locals. What do you guys think?

[Architype]

Good, thanks. :)

[jeddy1989]

Looks good, now we just need some pictures of the progress

[Marty_Mcfly]

There are a few construction pictures floating around the St. John's general thread, I'll check for them after. Progress has been going slowly on the site for months now, though I suspect this is due to the complexity of the grade and requirements for the parking garage.

[PoscStudent]

There are a few construction pictures floating around the St. John's general thread, I'll check for them after. Progress has been going slowly on the site for months now, though I suspect this is due to the complexity of the grade and requirements for the parking garage.

I was wondering if the sea water heating and cooling system was to blame for the length it's taking to see real progress? I assume that's something they'd need to get done early.

[Marty_Mcfly]

I was wondering if the sea water heating and cooling system was to blame for the length it's taking to see real progress? I assume that's something they'd need to get done early.

I was thinking that as well. Such things require intense drilling on site, which we know is a difficult task here in Newfoundland. However, once all that is done and they start adding floors, I imagine things will go much quicker (like the MUN residence houses).

[PoscStudent]

They had those huge pipes too coming from the ground, I don't know what they were for exactly but there's nothing like them at the Fortis site.

[Marty_Mcfly]

They had those huge pipes too coming from the ground, I don't know what they were for exactly but there's nothing like them at the Fortis site.

I'm not sure what those were, but my girlfriend was going on about how those pipes needed anti-corrosion coverings, as her masters in chemistry is about such things. With the Harbour Drive floor being taken care of at this moment, I'd guess that once everything is set and done at that point, the other 11 floors will follow quickly.

[Trend CJ]

The pics are on Page 171 of the St John's thread. The huge piles they were driving for most of 2010 were for foundation support. That lot is all fill of various ages. I think it took longer than expected to reach solid footing for a building the size of what is going there.

[upnotout]

Just drove by 351 this afternoon. Very busy today. I saw at least ten people as I drove by.

[techie]

I believe the 300 tonne crane is arriving onsite next week, and the pre cast blocks are going to start arriving in the first week of April. It should start gaining steam quickly now.

[PoscStudent]

There's something concrete built up in the centre of the site.

[Marty_Mcfly]

There's something concrete built up in the centre of the site.

Probably the concrete supports that'll be in the building for the parking garage? I hope to get downtown sometime soon (after classes are done) to take pictures of this, Fortis, Star of the Sea and other things.

[Architype]

There's something concrete built up in the centre of the site.

It may be the service core which will contain the elevator shafts, most likely the stairwells and other vertical servicing shafts.
The plans suggest that the same elevators will be used for both parking and office floors.

[AllBlack]

The site is looking much more organized now. Scrap/junk has been hauled away, the 1st floor garage walls are just about complete on the east and west sides, and much of the ground has been compacted inside. Glad to see that things will soon starting looking "up".

[AllBlack]

Signs are posted downtown, closing Harbour Drive March 26 thru March 28.

Assuming this means the arrival of precast panels..?!? :cool:

[techie]

That's just for crane setup. The precast will be arriving over a 6-8 week period.

[statbass]

That's just for crane setup. The precast will be arriving over a 6-8 week period.

Exciting times folks! I can't wait to see the progress over the coming months... :D

[Architype]

That's just for crane setup. The precast will be arriving over a 6-8 week period.

The crane will be the tallest structure around, for awhile, if it's a real crane.

[jeddy1989]

This picture is from a few weeks ago
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/554319_10150698479721310_504426309_9332469_1947983263_n.jpg

Taken by me

[Marty_Mcfly]

Motorists travelling in downtown St. John's will encounter some disruptions for three days next week.

Starting Monday, March 26th, East Port Properties will close the far west end of Harbour Drive between Waldegrave Street and Bishop’s Cove to through traffic until Wednesday, March 28th.

The president of East Port Properties, John Lindsay, says the construction of a new 445-car parkade, part of the development of 351 Water Street, is well underway and will be even more active from Monday to Wednesday of next week as they complete the assembly of a crane. Lindsay says they hope this short term pain will be more than offset by the tremendous long term gain in public parking downtown.

Lindsay says a 300 ton crane with 250 foot boom will be assembled on the site beginning this coming Monday in order to erect the prefabricated concrete parking structure, which will include 245 public spaces.

The first new office building in downtown St. John’s in more than 25 years, 351 is architecturally designed to encompass the heritage of Water Street, while incorporating the best of today’s technology. Lindsay pointed out it is the first sea water-heated and cooled building in Newfoundland and Labrador. The projected completion date is late 2013.


http://vocm.com/newsarticle.asp?mn=2&id=21829&latest=1

Looks like there'll be a newest highest structure in St. John's in the coming weeks

[statbass]

http://vocm.com/newsarticle.asp?mn=2&id=21829&latest=1

Looks like there'll be a newest highest structure in St. John's in the coming weeks

Awesome, I guess as construction picks up on the Fortis building we'll probably see another one of those bad boys downtown. :tup:

[Townieandproud]

http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2012-03-26/article-2939299/Huge-crane-closes-section-of-Harbour-Drive/1

They started this morning setting up the crane at 351 Water Street

[Architype]

It's hard to tell from the pictures, but it doesn't look like a tower crane, but a very large crawler crane which could be moved around the site. The operator would be closer to ground level instead of having a cab at the top.

[Jstaleness]

The tracks are visible in one of the images. It is not a tower crane. However there should be one soon for the building itself.

[Copes]

Thank god there's some real development occurring downtown. Hopefully this is the beginning of a new trend. I recently did some work with the director of the board of trade, regarding what is driving young people to leave St. John's. The feeling that the city is "old" and opposed to development is one of the driving reasons. Seeing progress on developing some areas of downtown St. John's will have major benefits to the city, and not just along the lines of additional office space.

[Architype]

The tracks are visible in one of the images. It is not a tower crane. However there should be one soon for the building itself.

I don't know, seems like there is a crane shortage in Halifax, where 17 are in use according to this recent article, which would translate to a shortage in St. John's where they are often not used even for highrises and midrises. There is one in use at MUN, and that is apparently the only one in the city. I think the one installed this week is the main crane they will be using for this project. Also the structure of the building is unusual being half concrete (parkade section) and half steel (office section) which might, in it's complexity, require a non-standard crane.

http://thechronicleherald.ca/business/67780-coping-crane-drain

[Marty_Mcfly]

Is the crane up yet? I was going to take a drive downtown earlier today but I got caught up in work as per usual.

[PoscStudent]

Forgot I took this the other day, not very good.

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af58/Poscstudent/photo-44.jpg

[statbass]

I snapped a progress pic today as a drove past 351 Water. I should have gotten another one from a different angle... it was starting to rain and I didn't want to get out of my car ;)

http://i43.tinypic.com/f2qx5w.jpg

[Architype]

^ It looks like they are up to the second level in this section, and you can notice what seems to be the slant for the parking levels.
I'm not used to seeing this type of construction, it looks very different.

[jeddy1989]

They seem to be working quite quickly on this building! I drove past it on Saturday and they were working on it, while at Fortis place no one was there. and only the posts were up and one floor where as now they have 2 floors in this section done. It would seem like parts are premade or something and its being peiced together on site :shrug:

[techie]

The first 6 floors (parking garage) are being constructed using pre-cast concrete modules coming on the Oceanex boats from Nova Scotia. I think the office tower portion will be more typical steel and cladding construction.

[Architype]

The first 6 floors (parking garage) are being constructed using pre-cast concrete modules coming on the Oceanex boats from Nova Scotia. I think the office tower portion will be more typical steel and cladding construction.

So it's good for the Nova Scotia economy too.

;)

[AllBlack]

Taken today, April 9
Grabbed quickly using my phone.
I see noticeable progress just about every day.

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa175/AllBlack_photo/IMG-20120409-00166.jpg

[Marty_Mcfly]

Wow, nice progress happening down there!

[jeddy1989]

This is really coming along quickly, here's a couple of drive by pics I took today

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/533148_10150743261416310_504426309_9479170_1304435047_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/575916_10150743261561310_504426309_9479171_1939164210_n.jpg

[J_Murphy]

FYI, there are also progress pics being posted on the project website http://threefiftyone.ca/gallery

[Copes]

The progress is nuts. I drove past on Wednesday and couldn't believe how fast its coming along. The parking garage is neat so cool, its like they're putting together lego blocks!

[Architype]

FYI, there are also progress pics being posted on the project website http://threefiftyone.ca/gallery

It says on the website that it will take about 12 weeks to complete the basic structure of the parking garage.

[Marty_Mcfly]

Every day I drive past 351 there's more and more work done. It's like they're playing simcity with the building down there

[upnotout]

I just walked by 351 on the Water Street side and noticed there is some really cool detailing on the parking garage. I didn't have a camera to take a picture unfortunately. It's hard to explain but it really makes it look great compared to the Atlantic Place parking garage which is an eyesore on the waterfront. Maybe someone could get a picture while they're down there?

I was looking up at the crane trying to picture the height of 351. Any idea if the height of the building will be about as high as the crane? Shorter? Higher?

[Marty_Mcfly]

I was looking up at the crane trying to picture the height of 351. Any idea if the height of the building will be about as high as the crane? Shorter? Higher?

The building itself will be about 48m tall, whereas the crane itself is about 70m, so there's a distinct height difference. When it's all said and done, 351 will have a height comparable to that of say Scotia Center or the old Fortis office.

[upnotout]

Thanks! I was aware of the completed height of 351 but I just couldn't get a sense of how tall the crane was from the ground.

By the way, the parking garage detailing I mentioned is visible in some of the photos on www.threefiftyone.ca/gallery. It actually looks much nicer in person as the pictures aren't very clear unfortunately.

[Architype]

The updates on the 351 website (http://www.threefiftyone.ca/gallery) are quite good. There should be 5 sections (Edit: I mean several sections) the same size as the one they are working on now. The detailing you mentioned will add a lot to the aesthetics.

The building height to the main roof of the tower will be about 43 meters, the top elevation of the penthouse will be about 47 meters.

http://www.threefiftyone.ca/gallery

[Chadillaccc]

This should prove to be a lovely addition to the city! again St. John's, very proud of your city for the massive improvements being made!

[AllBlack]

I agree, the finished Water Street face of the garage is looking great. The color, texture, and bit of detailing gives it a warmer relaxed feel that I think is unique to our downtown, reminiscent of structures I've seen in Florida/California.

I'll try and grab a few snaps.

[AllBlack]

Recently confirmed with a reliable source that a tower crane is en route to St. John's, destined for 351 Water. Coming in from southeastern US. It will be used for the construction of the office building.

[statbass]

I snapped a few progress pics of 351 Water yesterday. This building is shooting up like a weed!

http://i44.tinypic.com/15q5bmf.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/2r4judk.jpg

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[PoscStudent]

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[codyLawrenceDylan14]

Wow, it literally is sprouting up like a weed!!. If it keeps at the rate that it is going , the basic outline of the structure will probably be completed in 1 1/2 to 2 months :haha:

[Copes]

Yeah I really can't believe how fast 351 is growing. I'm out of the province for the next few weeks, and I half expect it to be done by the time I get back. :P

[Architype]

Because it's precast and not reinforced concrete, it is much faster construction.

[Oedipal Popsicle]

I walked by here yesterday. Is the first floor on the Water side going to be anything other than parking? It's hard to tell by looking in the little windows at street level.

I'm not to sure I like the detailing on the facade. Lipstick on a pig really. What I find interesting is that they didn't try and conceal the parkade. The tenants get the harbour view and the street gets the concrete bunker.

I just looked at the renderings again and there is no view from across the street. In fact most of the views are from the Harbour side.

[Marty_Mcfly]

I walked by here yesterday. Is the first floor on the Water side going to be anything other than parking? It's hard to tell by looking in the little windows at street level.

I'm not to sure I like the detailing on the facade. Lipstick on a pig really. What I find interesting is that they didn't try and conceal the parkade. The tenants get the harbour view and the street gets the concrete bunker.

First floor on Water street is going to be retail, with I think 4 potential store locations. There will also be a restaurant space opened on the harbour drive side of the building.

I wish they also tried to hide the parking a little better, but it's definitely way better than Atlantic Place's parking garage. I actually think the design in the pre-cast is a nice added bonus, anything really to help make a parking garage look a little better

[Architype]

First floor on Water street is going to be retail, with I think 4 potential store locations. There will also be a restaurant space opened on the harbour drive side of the building.

I wish they also tried to hide the parking a little better, but it's definitely way better than Atlantic Place's parking garage. I actually think the design in the pre-cast is a nice added bonus, anything really to help make a parking garage look a little better

The design shows some type of screening, and some glass on the Water Street side. This can make quite a difference in the appearance.

http://www.pbase.com/image/143139371.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/143139373.jpg

http://threefiftyone.ca/gallery

[Architype]

There are some more recent pictures on the 351 website (http://threefiftyone.ca/gallery).

This one from April gives a good overall view of the site and its surroundings -

http://www.pbase.com/image/143401903.jpg
http://threefiftyone.ca/gallery

[PoscStudent]

All taken by me yesterday afternoon.

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af58/Poscstudent/photo-48.jpg

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af58/Poscstudent/photo-47.jpg

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af58/Poscstudent/photo-46.jpg

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af58/Poscstudent/photo-45.jpg

[Architype]

Great pics. They seem to have made considerable progress.
The structure looks great so far.

[Architype]

Update - Traffic notifications have also been announced to take place between May 21 and June 22;

"This interruption in traffic flow is necessary to accommodate the final stages of the precast installation of the parking garage at 351 Water Street, to allow the installation of a tower crane to begin the work on the office building above, and to dismantle the precast crawler crane currently on site."

http://threefiftyone.ca/updates

[PoscStudent]

Cool.

[statbass]

Update - Traffic notifications have also been announced to take place between May 21 and June 22;

"This interruption in traffic flow is necessary to accommodate the final stages of the precast installation of the parking garage at 351 Water Street, to allow the installation of a tower crane to begin the work on the office building above, and to dismantle the precast crawler crane currently on site."

http://threefiftyone.ca/updates

Awesome! Hopefully Fortis will be getting a tower crane very soon as well.

[jeddy1989]

Some assembly required

The parkade for the 351 Water Street building is already completely constructed.

Now it needs to be assembled.

The newest office tower in St. John’s is being constructed partially with a method that hasn’t been done in this province before, says building owner East Port’s vice-president, Judy Wall. The building is being constructed with precast concrete slabs built offsite.

“Which means it’s made in a factory in a controlled environment so it’s premade, it’s prestressed. Because it’s done under strict, interior, controlled environment conditions, you’re left with a very good product,” Wall said.

Precast concrete requires less maintenance, lasts longer, and looks better, said Wall, who bases her assesment on a parkade East Port built on the Halifax harbourfront in 1985.

“If you walk through that parked now, it is still in excellent shape compared to a cast-in-place or steel structure.”

Wall said the St. John’s building will see the same benefits.

“Because it’s prestressed you don’t see cracking and you don’t see wear and you don’t see the sort of things you’d see in cast-in-place concrete over time.”

With those advantages come some logistical challenges in getting the pre-cast concrete slabs, which can weigh upwards of 45,000 pounds, to the site.

When those pieces are made in another province, the challenges become even greater.

Once the decision was made to build the parkade with premade pieces, instead of the more common method of pouring concrete into forms on site, East Port had to find somebody to do the work.

They looked around Newfoundland first, said Wall, but didn’t find a company doing precast on the scale required for this project.

“The issue was that there wasn’t a plant in St. John’s. We did look to see if we could get even some of it at least done here but you’ve got to have the casting beds and it has to be in an enclosed area.”

In the end, East Port chose to go with Nova Scotia-based company Strescon, because it has the facilities and the experience to complete the job, said Wall.

Once made, the pieces were then shipped on trailers through Oceanex to a yard in Mount Pearl that East Port used to hold the pieces until they were needed.

Adding to the complication was Strescon’s desire to build all sizes of each piece before moving onto the next, and East Port’s desire to have the pieces arranged in the holding yard in a way that made sense for construction.

Each piece had its own detailed drawing.

“There were something like, I believe, 200 pages of detail drawings for that garage because each piece, even if they look exactly the same, there are subtle differences,” said Wall.

The pieces, and putting them together, could be compared to building something with LEGO pieces :banaride:, with the notable difference of each piece not being exactly the same.

“Because each piece could be slightly different, it would be like trying to put LEGO together with 1,089 pieces and having to keep track of which piece went where so in other words you couldn’t just take an eight-piece red LEGO block and put it anywhere,” Wall said.

The process was “incredibly challenging,” said Wall, who has been impressed with the quality of work from each contractor.

Once all the pieces were made and delivered, they were then brought onto the site as needed, where they are assembled by American Steel & Precast Erectors, a company based in New Hampshire.

The use of an American company came after looking for a local firm to do the work, said Wall, adding that Strescon declined an offer to do the installation work.

Strescon recommended ASPE, who had the required experience.

East Port has attempted to use Newfoundland labour wherever possible, said Wall, and ASPE has hired local workers who they’ve since trained.

The parkade construction is ahead of schedule, partly because the weather has co-operated, said Wall.

Construction on the parkade is expected to be completed in June, with the rest of the building using a steel and cast concrete building method.

St. John’s newest office building, 351 Water Street, has an opening date of April, 2014.

http://www.thetelegram.com/Business/2012-05-26/article-2988821/Some-assembly-required/1

[AllBlack]

Taken lunchtime today..!!

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa175/AllBlack_photo/IMG-20120531-00177.jpg

[statbass]

Taken lunchtime today..!!

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa175/AllBlack_photo/IMG-20120531-00177.jpg

Very nice indeed!!!!!

[Trend CJ]

The first tower crane in Downtown St John's in how many years? Nice to see and good to know it will have company soon!

[Architype]

Some new photos have been added to the 351 Gallery.

This is one that shows the construction so far and both cranes.

http://www.pbase.com/image/144056524.jpg
Source: http://threefiftyone.ca/gallery

[Copes]

It was very surprising for me last night to hear people at the downtown forum referring to 351 as ugly. One person even referred to it as a "light blocking monstrosity." It blows my mind how nothing new can be built here.

That being said, I had a surprisingly interesting conversation afterwards with Shannie Duff, who told me she loved 351 and her only concern is that the shop fronts will be filled with something like a Tim Horton's instead of a neat boutique or grocery store. But she made a point to tell me that she agreed with the people bashing it and she thinks that it's a solid development.

It was interesting to hear that come from her, as I had her pegged as someone who would naturally be against it. I was disappointed though to hear the negative feedback from the crowd. I think 351 is anything BUT ugly.

[jjavman]

You have to remember that there is a very vocal minority in St. John's (mostly residing from Georgetown to the Battery), that are against anything downtown, except the circa 1910 4 flat buildings (which they call historical).

It was very surprising for me last night to hear people at the downtown forum referring to 351 as ugly. One person even referred to it as a "light blocking monstrosity." It blows my mind how nothing new can be built here.

That being said, I had a surprisingly interesting conversation afterwards with Shannie Duff, who told me she loved 351 and her only concern is that the shop fronts will be filled with something like a Tim Horton's instead of a neat boutique or grocery store. But she made a point to tell me that she agreed with the people bashing it and she thinks that it's a solid development.

It was interesting to hear that come from her, as I had her pegged as someone who would naturally be against it. I was disappointed though to hear the negative feedback from the crowd. I think 351 is anything BUT ugly.

[Marty_Mcfly]

351 has a very unique design concept for the parking garage which certainly looks nicer than poured concrete. It could be better hidden of course, but it's far from hideous. But people will complain that it's not faux-turn of the century row houses like the ones built on Harvey Road, which are way too tacky.

[IronMan]

I think 351 is a great looking building. I am all for heritage, but how much longer are we going to allow this minority of people in the downtown continue to block development? How can we move forward when the same people go to all the public hearings and give their same recycled arguments like 'it is too high' or 'it's ugly' or 'we need to protect these old decrepit so called heritage buildings'? The problem is that they get results, because they are the only people speaking up! This has to change. We blame city hall for bending t their pressure, but I rarely see any organized counter-pressure in this regard.

Just a thought!

[J_Murphy]

I think 351 is a great looking building. I am all for heritage, but how much longer are we going to allow this minority of people in the downtown continue to block development? How can we move forward when the same people go to all the public hearings and give their same recycled arguments like 'it is too high' or 'it's ugly' or 'we need to protect these old decrepit so called heritage buildings'? The problem is that they get results, because they are the only people speaking up! This has to change. We blame city hall for bending t their pressure, but I rarely see any organized counter-pressure in this regard.

Just a thought!

I've never been to any public meetings but I get a feeling part of the problem may be that the people who are opposed are very vocal about it but the people are supportive keep very quiet. Maybe us supporters needs to get to these meetings waving pompoms and chanting in support of these developments.:jester:

[Copes]

I've never been to any public meetings but I get a feeling part of the problem may be that the people who are opposed are very vocal about it but the people are supportive keep very quiet. Maybe us supporters needs to get to these meetings waving pompoms and chanting in support of these developments.:jester:

I've started to do just that, having been to the past two events related to downtown development. One thing that is great to see is that council has acknowledged and sort of designated the west-side of the harbour (near Fortis and Deacon) as the desired "development" area due to its location (bottom of Pitts Memorial). As far as I'm concerned, there is a lot down there that can go. Hopefully it happens, it'd be nice to see some modern condos along with the new office buildings, for example.

But yeah, these public hearings are great, and I've managed to make a point on both occasions about the need for development downtown. If anyone wants to attend the next one, I'll likely be there either way. Already I noticed a few very vocal anti-development types who were at both, so your statement is definitely valid.

[J_Murphy]

Here are some photos taken by me on June 23, 2012.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2prbk47.jpg

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[statbass]

Here are some photos taken by me on June 23, 2012.


^^^ Thanks for the progress pics of 351 (as well as Fortis). I'm really looking forward to seeing these buildings in their entirety

[J_Murphy]

^^^ Thanks for the progress pics of 351 (as well as Fortis). I'm really looking forward to seeing these buildings in their entirety

No problem. I am down that way often so I will try to get some better pics of Fortis soon. With regards to 351, most of the concrete work looks near complete. I expect to see some steel starting to go up soon. The cool thing with these two projects going on the same time is you really get to see the difference in putting up a precast building vs. pouring the concrete in place with formwork.

[Architype]

Nice update. There is still one more level to be built on the garage before the office section starts, apparently the structure will be a bit different from the first 5 levels.

[AllBlack]

The office building has started.

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa175/AllBlack_photo/IMG-20120703-00189.jpg

[statbass]

The office building has started.

Hmm... According to the LUAR there is suppose to be a six-level parking garage. Does this mean there will be less parking spaces? I believe the extra public parking spaces was a driving force to get the building approved. Architype did mention the final parking level was to be different, may be that's what they're starting.

[techie]

Hmm... According to the LUAR there is suppose to be a six-level parking garage. Does this mean there will be less parking spaces? I believe the extra public parking spaces was a driving force to get the building approved. Architype did mention the final parking level was to be different, may be that's what they're starting.

I count 5 concrete levels in that pic. Would the Harbour Drive ground level count as the sixth?

[Architype]

The top of the precast structure which is already built should be the sixth parking level.
The renderings show the 6th level structure as being a bit different.
The office building should start one level above that.

[Architype]

Some photos and a video of the construction can be found here:
http://aspe-nh.net/projects/351-water-street/

Also, an interesting article here:
http://aspe-nh.net/pdf/351waterstreet.pdf

[AllBlack]

The precast parking structure and the office building are being performed by two different contractors - the precast contractor is finished and now the office building contractor has begun the steel work. The sixth level of the parking garage appears in fact to be steel construction and I presume would be part of the second contractor's scope. The sixth parking level has actually started along the western edge of the structure (didn't stop for a picture of that... sorry).

A bit more of the vertical steel completed today actually (a couple of levels above the garage) - hope to see it move quickly from here.

[AllBlack]

Grabbed a pic of the west side of the garage this evening.

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa175/AllBlack_photo/IMG-20120704-00190.jpg

[Architype]

Here's a recent photo of the 351 site; you can also see the Fortis site in the background between the two churches, for now. This is fairly recent but before the structure was completed and the steel work started for the office building.
http://www.pbase.com/image/144594570.jpg
Source: http://threefiftyone.ca/gallery

[AllBlack]

Water Street view of sixth level progress.

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa175/AllBlack_photo/IMG-20120712-00191.jpg

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa175/AllBlack_photo/IMG-20120712-00192.jpg

[Architype]

Thanks for the update.
This is one of the most photogenic buildings I've seen while under construction, mainly because of the precast, but the steel looks good too.

[Chadillaccc]

Someone should make a new future rendering of the St. John's skyline.

[statbass]

Someone should make a new future rendering of the St. John's skyline.

A future rendering was created a little while back on the main projects thread, courtesy of Architype. Here is a link to the page (it's post #2349):

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=145930&page=118

This rendering also contains some proposed developments that have not been approved (and may never be), but it gives a good indication of the future skyline.

[jeddy1989]

A future rendering was created a little while back on the main projects thread, courtesy of Architype. Here is a link to the page (it's post #2349):

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=145930&page=118

This rendering also contains some proposed developments that have not been approved (and may never be), but it gives a good indication of the future skyline.

Alot of these are in the works still, Although I think a new rendering could be called for, Including Deacon Building, The new Steel hotel, All the developments on duckworth street too, might need to be zoomed in a bit in two different renderings on both sides of DT.

Here are the renderings that have been already done:
http://www.pbase.com/image/134268765/original.jpg

Also:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/385154_10150521927061310_1831109156_n.jpg

I think it would be nice if someone could do a renderinf of the west end of DT including 351 waterstreet and convention centre etc, but looing west instead of east.. this is way out of my photoshoping abilities :D

[SignalHillHiker]

July 31, 2012

Here is the view from Water Street:

http://i.imgur.com/Ahh71h.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/SfhNsh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nABgch.jpg

Here is the view from Harbour Drive, facing the East End:

http://i.imgur.com/ZKptWh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/mhbddh.jpg

And here if the view from Harbour Drive, facing the West End. The men on the roof called out, "Hey buddy! Make sure you gets a picture of the guys who's building it!"

http://i.imgur.com/ayoZ0h.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/laDK2h.jpg

And this will be the view many tenants of this building will enjoy - but, of course, much higher up and not impeded in any way:

http://i.imgur.com/p1JHTh.jpg

[SignalHillHiker]

August 4, 2012

A view of 351 Water Street from farther east on Water Street:

http://i.imgur.com/IokPHh.jpg

And Harbour Drive:

http://i.imgur.com/ERoBPh.jpg

[Architype]

Great photos, they are making good progress.
Only now (7th/8th floor) does it seem taller than the post office.

[statbass]

August 4, 2012
A view of 351 Water Street from farther east on Water Street:


^^^^^ Another great set of pics SignalHillHiker, keep up the good work! :tup:

[SignalHillHiker]

August 16, 2012

http://i.imgur.com/kJw9Uh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/6SBBWh.jpg

[SignalHillHiker]

August 22, 2012

http://i.imgur.com/OGuQ4h.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/TgItnh.jpg

[statbass]

August 22, 2012

http://i.imgur.com/OGuQ4h.jpg



^^^^ Where did you take this picture from? Shea Heights area?

[SignalHillHiker]

^^^^ Where did you take this picture from? Shea Heights area?

Exactly there, yes. That first look-out area above the switch-back road, just before you head into the neighbourhood.

[SignalHillHiker]

August 23, 2012

351 Water Street:
http://i.imgur.com/h9gfmh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/fjJavh.jpg