Proposals: Skyscrapers & Supertalls (200m +)

[Ramako]

--- QUICK LIST ---

(diagram (http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=75499117))


1. One Yonge 1: 307m / 1007ft
2. Mirvish + Gehry - West Tower: 305m / 1001ft
3. The One: 304.3m / 998ft
4. 55 Lake Shore East - Tower 1: 304m / 997ft
4. 55 Lake Shore East - Tower 2: 304m / 997ft
6. Chelsea Gardens Tower 1: 285m / 935ft
6. Chelsea Gardens Tower 2: 285m / 935ft
8. Mirvish + Gehry - East Tower: 275m / 902ft
9. 55 Lake Shore East - Tower 4: 264m / 866ft
9. 55 Lake Shore East - Tower 5: 264m / 866ft

11. One Yonge 2: 263.5m / 865ft
12. 55 Lake Shore East - Tower 3: 255m / 837ft
13. Bay Park Centre II: 243.1m / 798ft
14. 160 Front: 240m / 787ft
15. Union Centre: 238.5m / 782ft
16. Bay Park Centre I: 238m / 781ft
17. 2 Carlton Street One: 233.2m / 765ft
17. 2 Carlton Street Two: 233.2m / 765ft
19. 475 Yonge: 220.3m / 723ft
20. One Yonge 3: 217m / 712ft

21. 23 Spadina Avenue A: 212m / 696ft
22. One Eglinton East: 211m / 692ft
23. 30 Bay Street: ~~~m / ~~~ft
24. 400 Front West - Tower One: 204m / 669ft

- marketing/seeking tenants -
- site prep underway -




--- RENDERS ---


1. One Yonge 1 (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=106497): 307m / 1007ft

http://i.imgur.com/dnBideU.jpg
http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/1-7-yonge-st-re-development-pinnacle-various-heights-hariri-pontarini.17920/page-105#post-1037293



2. Mirvish + Gehry - West Tower (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=103520): 305m / 1001ft

http://www.blogto.com/upload/2014/05/20140528-Gehry-N.jpg
http://www.blogto.com/city/2014/05/david_mirvish_unveils_revised_gehry_tower_project/
Note: On the right.



3. The One (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=105731): 304.3m / 998ft

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8045/28800742750_8ddd8bf190_c.jpg
http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/toronto-the-one-304m-80s-mizrahi-developments-foster-partners.18167/page-219



4. 55 Lake Shore East - Tower 1 (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=109785): 304m / 997ft

http://urbantoronto.ca/sites/default/files/imagecache/display-default/images/articles/2016/11/23894/23894-83210.jpg
http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2016/11/menkes-lcbo-site-concept-presented-public



4. 55 Lake Shore East - Tower 2 (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=109786): 304m / 997ft

http://urbantoronto.ca/sites/default/files/imagecache/display-default/images/articles/2016/11/23894/23894-83210.jpg
http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2016/11/menkes-lcbo-site-concept-presented-public



6. Chelsea Gardens Tower 1 (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=107068): 285m / 935ft

http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attachments/capture-png.89047/
http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/toronto-33-gerrard-west-redevelopment-252m-80s-great-eagle-architectsalliance.6419/page-33



6. Chelsea Gardens Tower 2 (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=107065): 285m / 935ft

http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attachments/capture-png.89047/
http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/toronto-33-gerrard-west-redevelopment-252m-80s-great-eagle-architectsalliance.6419/page-33



8. Mirvish + Gehry - East Tower (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=103519): 275m / 902ft

http://www.blogto.com/upload/2014/05/20140528-Gehry-Lead.jpg
http://www.blogto.com/city/2014/05/david_mirvish_unveils_revised_gehry_tower_project/
Note: On the right.



9. 55 Lake Shore East - Tower 4 (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=109788): 264m / 866ft

http://urbantoronto.ca/sites/default/files/imagecache/display-default/images/articles/2016/11/23894/23894-83210.jpg
http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2016/11/menkes-lcbo-site-concept-presented-public



9. 55 Lake Shore East - Tower 5 (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=109789): 264m / 866ft

http://urbantoronto.ca/sites/default/files/imagecache/display-default/images/articles/2016/11/23894/23894-83210.jpg
http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2016/11/menkes-lcbo-site-concept-presented-public



11. One Yonge 2 (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=106498): 263.5m / 865ft

http://i.imgur.com/dnBideU.jpg
http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/1-7-yonge-st-re-development-pinnacle-various-heights-hariri-pontarini.17920/page-105#post-1037293
Note: On the left.



12. 55 Lake Shore East - Tower 3 (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=109787): 255m / 837ft

http://urbantoronto.ca/sites/default/files/imagecache/display-default/images/articles/2016/11/23894/23894-83210.jpg
http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2016/11/menkes-lcbo-site-concept-presented-public



13. Bay Park Centre II (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=104325): 243.1m / 798ft

http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.2031291.1412085382!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_960/image.jpg
http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/new-go-bus-terminal-will-link-to-transit-hub-in-downtown-toronto-1.2031353
Note: On the left.



14. 160 Front (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=98068): 240m / 787ft

http://urbantoronto.ca/sites/default/files/imagecache/display-slideshow/images/articles/2014/02/9522/urbantoronto-9522-33430.jpg
http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2014/02/high-res-renderings-156-front-west-reveal-new-details
Note: Rendering does not depict the reduction of 25 metres.



15. Union Centre (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=100516): 238.5m / 782ft

http://urbantoronto.ca/sites/default/files/imagecache/display-default/images/articles/2014/03/9595/urbantoronto-9595-33718.jpg
http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2014/03/allied-reit-proposes-48-storey-union-centre-york-front



16. Bay Park Centre I (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=104068): 238m / 781ft

http://urbantoronto.ca/sites/default/files/imagecache/display-default/images/projects/5750/5750-39359.jpeg
http://urbantoronto.ca/database/projects/81-bay-redevelopment-was-45-bay



17. 2 Carlton Street One (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=111874): 233.2m / 765ft

http://urbantoronto.ca/sites/default/files/imagecache/display-default/Screen%20Shot%202016-10-13%20at%2012.53.59%20PM.png
http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2016/10/72-storey-twin-towers-proposed-yonge-and-carlton



17. 2 Carlton Street Two (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=111875): 233.2m / 765ft

http://urbantoronto.ca/sites/default/files/imagecache/display-default/Screen%20Shot%202016-10-13%20at%2012.53.59%20PM.png
http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2016/10/72-storey-twin-towers-proposed-yonge-and-carlton



19. 475 Yonge (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=108609): 220.3m / 723ft

http://urbantoronto.ca/sites/default/files/imagecache/display-default/images/projects/20177/20177-68729.jpeg
http://urbantoronto.ca/database/projects/475-yonge-street



20. One Yonge 3 (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=106499): ~~~m / ~~~ft

http://urbantoronto.ca/sites/default/files/imagecache/display-default/images/projects/6918/6918-80103.jpg
http://urbantoronto.ca/database/projects/1-7-yonge-toronto-star-lands



21. 23 Spadina Avenue A (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=99988): 212m / 696ft

http://urbantoronto.ca/sites/default/files/imagecache/display-default/images/articles/2014/12/14903/14903-42491.jpeg
http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2014/12/further-block-22-details-revealed-information-session
Note: On the right.



22. One Eglinton East (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=105094): 211m / 692ft

http://urbantoronto.ca/sites/default/files/imagecache/display-default/images/projects/14953/14953-78432.jpeg
http://urbantoronto.ca/database/projects/1-eglinton-east



23. 30 Bay Streeet (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=105307): ~~~m / ~~~ft

http://i.imgur.com/B4U2Iuo.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=120864963&langid=5



24. 400 Front Street West - Tower 1 (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=105403): 204m / 669ft

http://www.blogto.com/upload/2015/02/201525-front-spadina.jpg
http://www.blogto.com/city/2015/02/another_huge_development_pitched_for_front_spadina/
Note: In the background.


1. Oxford Place East (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=14472): 326.1m / 1,070ft

http://oxfordplace.ca/images/slide-aerialSkyline.jpg
http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/showthread.php/16439-Oxford-Place-(MTCC-Redevelopment-Oxford-2x-70s-Foster-Partners)?p=723958#post723958



1. Oxford Place West (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=31652): 326.1m / 1,070ft

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8507/8565714866_f372d3a7da_c.jpg
http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/showthread.php/16439-Oxford-Place-(MTCC-Redevelopment-Oxford-2x-70s-Foster-Partners)?p=723958#post723958



10. Oxford Place Hotel West (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=9533): 254.8m / 836ft

http://imageshack.us/a/img534/9131/35322632.png
Note: On the right, in the distance.



20. Holt Renfrew Tower (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=57390): 229.8m / 754ft

http://urbantoronto.ca/sites/default/files/imagecache/display-default/images/projects/5318/5318-55937.jpeg
http://urbantoronto.ca/database/projects/50-bloor-street-west



21. 1 Scollard (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=110564): 229.4m / 753ft

http://urbantoronto.ca/sites/default/files/imagecache/display-default/images/articles/2016/09/22893/22893-79518.jpeg
http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2016/09/1-scollard-proposal-opposed-planning-councillor-locals



23. 80 Bloor Street West (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=100893): 224m / 735ft

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5532/10600792653_2ca2e55204_c.jpg
http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/showthread.php/20129-80-Bloor-St-W-(west-of-Bay-Krugarand-Corp-66s-aA)?p=777967#post777967



10. 8 Elm Street (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=110813): 259.5m / 851ft

http://urbantoronto.ca/sites/default/files/imagecache/display-default/images/articles/2016/07/21837/21837-75473.jpeg
http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2016/07/further-details-emerge-80-storey-proposal-8-elm-street

[haljackey]

Any new news regarding 45 Bay Street? That tower looks awesome!

[Symz]

45 Bay would have a dramatic effect on the Toronto skyline from the viewpoint of the water with that design and cladding given it's location and surrounding neighbours.

Very cool.

[caltrane74]

Nice ! You guys are up and rolling!

[Gresto]

Good job with all these threads, guys!

[caltrane74]

Toronto went from having one 200 meter proposal to 6, in the space of 3 months or so.

One of which will start construction in a year and a half.

Also still waiting for Ode de Soliel on the Etobicoke Shore.

[Travis007]

Great to hear that the wheels are indeed turning, behind the scene for 45 Bay. One of the last prominent/large parking lots in the central downtown area would be fitting for such a well designed tower. The possibility for the location of Toronto's new Coach Terminal is enticing too. Would mean the relocation from Bay/Edward and inevitable redevelopment of that property in the future. So many great possibilities on the horizon.

[Travis007]

Now that I think about it, I think a large redevelopment of the Bay/Edward Coach Terminal will eventually be in the works. I know a guy who operates an IT Call Centre at 600 Bay Street (old building just south the Terminal). He said that throughout these past few years, the owner has been very reluctant to do any major renovations to the building, despite it being in very poor condition. He's aware that the Terminal will be moved to the Union Station area. Also mentions that owner of 600 Bay is probably looking forward to sell the property and collude with any redevelopment plans for the Terminal. The combined properties will offer a rather large potential floor plate, although height would be limited because it conflicts with being in City Hall's view line (looking north).

[caltrane74]

Nothing built on the terminal site will be over 200 meters. City Hall is old school on its view cone.

[Travis007]

Forget 200 m, the former "One City Hall II" proposal had problems getting approved at 50 storeys because of the view cone. A realistic height expectation for a potential Bay Coach Terminal redevelopment would probably be a couple towers at 30-40 storeys. Although, I'd still take quality in design over quantity in floor height any day. I see them incorporating the historic facade like Burano.

[caltrane74]

Yes 30 to 40 storeys but lets hope for some interesting design.

[koops65]

We all hope for that, but a box, with wrap-around baconies, is far more likely... :yuck:

[Travis007]

^ Not necessarily condo. Considering its location, it could be great for a mixed use development. Office/commercial space and/or hotel/residential would be awesome.

Although I must admit Toronto can learn a lot from this place about beautiful modern, medium-highrise architecture:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=195935

[caltrane74]

Looks like Eau du Soliel will come in at 62 Floors.

Probably good enough for 200 meters to 210 meters.

[Ramako]

Looks like another 200+ metre proposal for Toronto

The following renderings are taken from Oxford's project webpage (http://www.oxfordbigblocks.com/building-page.php?&building=100-adelaide):

https://api.arcestra.com/api/files/131594150638860817
https://api.arcestra.com/api/files/4474415019694620102
https://api.arcestra.com/api/files/8450257929729385952

This office tower is designed by Kohn Pedersen Fox, of Ritz Carlton and RBC Centre fame. As can be seen from the video on the project page, this tower was originally presented as being 28 storeys (excluding the mechanical roof), but the more recent renderings posted above indicate a 44 storey tower (plus a mechanical roof of roughly 4 or 5 storeys) resulting in a tower that should come in above 200 metres.

Word is that Oxford is shopping for tenants.

[Chadillaccc]

fantastic news! I always thought that proposal should have been taller! Wow! Such a beautiful building

[Travis007]

Much better now. The increased height really accentuates its sharp angles and dramatic figure. At (potentially) over 200 m, this sleek design should have quite a defining statement on the skyline.

[LeftCoaster]

Great stuff, thanks Ramko. I've gotta say this is a much better project with the increased size, only issue is it will likely take longer to come to fruition in this form.

My guess is that Oxford is actively looking at both schemes and will build to suit based off the size of anchor tenant and their perception of the medium and smaller sized tenant markets at the time of the anchor deal execution.

[Gresto]

Classy cladding, ugly form, IMO.

[suburbanite]

Nice to see something other than a box. This looks like a taller version of something you might see in Vacnouver, and should add a much appreciated modern feel to the view.

[Dylan Leblanc]

good! the original proposal did seem too short.

although I think it would look better if the top of the tower pointed the other way, to the north. I feel that towers with angled roofs like this should have them pointing away from the main mass of the skyline.

[dennis1]

Yay!!!

[Ramako]

BREAKING NEWS!

Yet another 200+ metre tower proposed for Toronto:

2263 YONGE ST
OPA / Rezoning 11 326074 STE 22 OZ Ward 22
- Tor & E.York Dec 14, 2011 --- --- --- ---
Rezoning application to permit the redevelopment of the lands for the purposes of a new mixed use building comprised of two residential towers 64 stories and 44 stories in height respectively connected by a 3 storey podium containing retail and office uses. Included in the proposal is the demolition and replacement of 30 existing rental dwelling units secured through a related Residential Demolition Control Application. Proposal will contain 1166 dwelling units complete with 371 parking spaces located in a below grade parking facility, 95 of which would be provided for retail and office purposes.


2263 YONGE ST
Rental Housing Demolition & Conversion 11 326114 STE 22 RH Ward 22
- Tor & E.York Dec 14, 2011 --- --- --- ---
Rental Housing and Demolition Control Application for the demolition and replacement of 30 rental dwelling units. Proposal is to replace the 30 units in the redevelopment of the lands proposed under related application 11-326074

64 storeys should easily top 200 metres, however given that this is Yonge & Eglinton, the developers will surely have a height fight on their hands. Otherwise... the beat goes on. :yes:

[LeftCoaster]

And the ball just keeps rolling. I expect this one to be a few years off just due to the rigorous approvals process this thing is likely to see, still would be nice to throw up a few 60s towers at Y&E, really solidify it as a skyline in its own right.

[Andrewjm3D]

Sorry, I'm not really sure where I should be posting in this forum. I'll get the hang of it.



No longer 28 floors, it will now be 44 floors.

From Oxford Properties website -
https://api.arcestra.com/api/files/4474415019694620102

https://api.arcestra.com/api/files/8450257929729385952

https://api.arcestra.com/api/files/131594150638860817

https://api.arcestra.com/api/files/7596349343318161916

[Dylan Leblanc]

that's totally awesome! but there have been so many plans for this site over the years it's to the point now where I'll have to "see it to believe it!"

[koops65]

I'm curious why the people who make these renders use such old aerial photos. Shangri-La was still a hole in the ground and the FCP re-clad had just begun. There are literally thousands of recent pix they could have used...

[Innsertnamehere]

because shangri la would be blocking the view in that pic.. and because these renders were probably made several months ago and are only being made public now.

[koops65]

No, S-L wound NOT block out the new tower in that view, and that pic is over a year old, closer to 2 yrs...

[Andrewjm3D]

I'm curious why the people who make these renders use such old aerial photos. Shangri-La was still a hole in the ground and the FCP re-clad had just begun. There are literally thousands of recent pix they could have used...

Pretty sure that the design and rendering of both 28 storey and 44 storey versions were made well back when that image was up to date.

[Dylan Leblanc]

the new tower will be immediately to the right of First Can in this view from the square

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7015/6496962441_1a6f29c8e7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/skylinemarc/6496962441/)
NPS (http://www.flickr.com/photos/skylinemarc/6496962441/) by Marcanadian (http://www.flickr.com/people/skylinemarc/), on Flickr

[caltrane74]

Preliminary design concept by BUILD TORONTO on Ten York

http://www.insidetorontocondos.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/120HarbourSt1.jpg
Posted at insidetorontocondos.com

[dennis1]

Too small. Should be 300m.

[caltrane74]

200 m or taller: 23
8 built
8 under construction
7 proposals

Between 100 and 199 m: 133
46 built?
15 under construction?
72 proposals

Well....


There are definitely several proposals missing from the 200m+, but no where near the 17 additional needed to fulfill caltranes sig. Still ~30 200M plus buildings is very impressive for a city Toronto's size.
.


I'll start a list in this post of all the potential 200 meter towers not on the list.

1. Eau de Soilel - 65 Floors
2. Yorkville Parking Deck - 2 Towers 55 Floors/45 Floors
3. 60 Harbour - 2 Towers potentially
4. 2263 Yonge Street - 64 floors
5. 100 Adelaide - 44 floors

So we are now at 29

Just 11 to go!!!

[caltrane74]

There is a rumored twin tower development for the Holt's site.

If we were to include those two towers we are sitting at 31, with just 9 more proposals to get us to 40 towers at 200 meters.

If we include the rumored Synergy Development, that takes us to 32 towers, just need 8 more to hit 40 towers over the 200 meter mark.

There is an outside chance the Canada Tower now proposed at 54 floors over the 52 floor original at 188 meters could break the 200 meter mark in its revamped state.

[WhipperSnapper]

It's next to impossible for the Canada Tower site to support anything taller. The rest are just rumours. There are plenty of those around to push you towards 80.

[caltrane74]

Ok, I'll settle for 27 or 28.....FOR NOW!

[Symz]

Preliminary design concept by BUILD TORONTO on Ten York

http://www.insidetorontocondos.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/120HarbourSt1.jpg
Posted at insidetorontocondos.com

Wow, Toronto's filling every little nook & cranny huh!

[isaidso]

Wow, Toronto's filling every little nook & cranny huh!

.... with crappy tired looking buildings that barely pass as architecture. ;)

[caltrane74]

More hints being dropped, that something big is coming to the Cumberland Terrace site.

[yaletown_fella]

What hints?

Because that quote from Niwell could have also implied a huge American retail tenant for the Cumberland Terrace redevelopment.

The suspense is too much and well, counterproductive for me!

[caltrane74]

The hint is:

This project is launching shortly.

[Innsertnamehere]

hopefully a supertall with a major tenant (apple?) at the bottom designed by bjarke ingels!!!

[DanOttTor]

hopefully a supertall with a major tenant (apple?) at the bottom designed by bjarke ingels!!!

Yeah the suspense is killing me.

Please, as soon as someone hears something.....Post it!

[Ramako]

It looks like 88 Scott has been pushed to 202 metres (including mechanical):

http://app.toronto.ca/DevelopmentApplications/associatedApplicationsList.do?action=init&folderRsn=2896250


Original rendering:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7014/6705129703_7715e9d724_o.jpg

[Dwils01]

Well that's good news.
This building will help push the skyline eastwards.
This should make it to over 30 buildings built/proposed/under-construction over 200m in Toronto.

[caltrane74]

Hong Kong has less than 50 towers over 200 meters, and new York has more than 60 I believe. Not sure about Dubai, but I think we are going to be in top 5 worldwide. (200 meters or greater)

[DrNest]

I believe Dubai has more than 60 buildings 200m or greater. But significantly, a lot are over 300m there. This is the height Toronto needs to be building in if it wants to maintain its place as one of the leading skyscraper cities in the world.

[Andrewjm3D]

Hong Kong has less than 50 towers over 200 meters, and new York has more than 60 I believe. Not sure about Dubai, but I think we are going to be in top 5 worldwide. (200 meters or greater)


According to Emporis built >200m - We should bump about to about sixth position.

NYC - 53
Hong Kong - 48
Dubai - 44
Shanghai - 43
Chicago - 27
Tokyo - 20
Houston - 14
Panama City - 12
Singapore - 12
Toronto - 11 (14 in sales or u/c so we may surpass Tokyo, we should hit 25 in the next 3-4 years.)
Seoul - 11

[caltrane74]

Another 200 meter plus tower to be announced today!!!!

Yonge and Dundas/Yonge and Queen Area!!!

[isaidso]

According to Emporis built >200m - We should bump about to about sixth position.

NYC - 53
Hong Kong - 48
Dubai - 44
Shanghai - 43
Chicago - 27
Tokyo - 20
Houston - 14
Panama City - 12
Singapore - 12
Toronto - 11 (14 in sales or u/c so we may surpass Tokyo, we should hit 25 in the next 3-4 years.)
Seoul - 11

Emporis is missing a ton of cities. To roof height as of 3 months ago, it was something like this:

01. Dubai (63) - 636 m
02. Hong Kong (61) - 484 m
03. New York (53) -381 m
04. Shanghai (46) - 487 m
05. Chicago (27) - 442 m

06. Shenzhen (27) - 325 m
07. Tokyo (21) - 296 m
08. Singapore (18) - 280 m
09. Guangzhou (16) - 441 m
10. Houston (14) - 305 m

11. Chongqing (14) - 283 m
12. Nanjing (13) - 317 m
13. Busan (13) - 301 m
14. Seoul (13) - 284 m
15. Kuala Lumpur (12) - 379 m

16. Bangkok (12) - 304 m
17. Los Angeles (11) - 310 m
18. Jakarta (11) - 262 m
19. Toronto (10) - 298 m
20. Atlanta (9) - 285 m

Bangkok, Seoul, Manila, and a whole whack of other cities are building lots of 200 m+ buildings as well. It's not as if these other cities are all standing still. Toronto will climb up the rankings, but would be lucky to squeak into the top 10. 6th spot isn't realistic.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1104105&page=14

[caltrane74]

We might be hearing something on Eau Du Soleil Shortly!!

New rendering on site

[Highinthesky]

If 88 Scott looks like that rendering it will be one sharp looking building.

[yyzer]

We might be hearing something on Eau Du Soleil Shortly!!

New rendering on site

courtesy of Ed007Toronto at UT....

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/EauDuSoleilRender.jpg

[Ramako]

\ It's not as if these other cities are all standing still. Toronto will climb up the rankings, but would be lucky to squeak into the top 10. 6th spot isn't realistic.


I'm not so sure about that.

If we include the CN Tower, we've got 17 towers already built or under construction.

If we include Massey Tower, Eau du Soleil, Richmond-Adelaide III, Bazis' Yonge & Eglinton tower, and the height increase of 88 Scott, we have another 12 proposed.

If we add another two for 60 Harbour Street, plus the two soon-to-be announced towers that LeftCoaster has been referring to in lieu of a supertall, we will have a total of 33 towers over 200 metres built, u/c or proposed.

If somehow our real estate market manages not to implode over the next 5 years, we could take a legitimate run at Chicago and the Top 5.

[isaidso]

I'm not so sure about that.

If we include the CN Tower, we've got 17 towers already built or under construction.

If we include Massey Tower, Eau du Soleil, Richmond-Adelaide III, Bazis' Yonge & Eglinton tower, and the height increase of 88 Scott, we have another 12 proposed.

If we add another two for 60 Harbour Street, plus the two soon-to-be announced towers that LeftCoaster has been referring to in lieu of a supertall, we will have a total of 33 towers over 200 metres built, u/c or proposed.

If somehow our real estate market manages not to implode over the next 5 years, we could take a legitimate run at Chicago and the Top 5.

Toronto's doing exceedingly well, but we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves. I definitely think we'll catch Chicago, it's some of the other cities ahead of us that might stay ahead. Dubai, Hong Kong, New York, and Shanghai will remain the top 4. Tokyo, Guangzhou, Bangkok, Seoul, Shenzhen, Singapore, Panama City? Just like Toronto, all of these cities will likely be beyond 30 200m+ buildings by 2015.

Toronto might be in 5th, but we could easily be in 11th or 12th. Exciting times, nonetheless. :cheers:

[Ramako]

Toronto's doing exceedingly well, but we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves. I definitely think we'll catch Chicago, it's some of the other cities ahead of us that might stay ahead. Dubai, Hong Kong, New York, and Shanghai will remain the top 4. Tokyo, Guangzhou, Bangkok, Seoul, Shenzhen, Singapore, Panama City? Just like Toronto, all of these cities will likely be beyond 30 200m+ buildings by 2015.

Toronto might be in 5th, but we could easily be in 11th or 12th. Exciting times, nonetheless. :cheers:

Indeed, and who knows how things might turn out even 20 years from now. Toronto seems to grow in massive spurts.

[isaidso]

2 dark horses that few people seem to be noticing are Abu Dhabi and Mumbai. Abu Dhabi seems to be following in Dubai's path, albeit with better fiscal controls. Mumbai has 13 super talls currently under construction.

[Gresto]

Mumbai has 13 super talls currently under construction.
Mumbai, what a sick joke! Millions of people living in slums in abject poverty and their countrymen concern themselves with constructing monuments to wealth.

[LeftCoaster]

Sounds like America :cool:

[caltrane74]

200 meter plus building count - UC/Built/Proposed/Potential Development

1. FCP - 298
2. Scotiaplaza 275
3. Aura - 273
4. Trump - 276
5. Brookfield Place - 263
6. 10 York - 253 meters
7. 45 Bay - 244
8 90 Harbour - 239.5
9. 90 Harbour - 239.5
10. Commerce Court - 239
11. One Bloor - 238 (255)
12. ICE 2. - 234
13 43 Simcoe - 234
14. TD Centre 223
15. 156 Front Street - 221
16. Bay Adelaide centre - 218
17. Shangrila Toronto - 212
18. Ritz Toronto - 209
19. 2183 Lakeshore (Eau)
20. Bay Wellington - 208
21. 460 Yonge - 207
22. L Tower - 205
23. Four Seasons Toronto - 204
24. ICE West - 202 meters
25. 88 Scott - 202
26. Massey Tower - unknown
27. Yonge & Eglinton Bazis - unknown
28. 60 Harbour - unknown
29. 60 Harbour - unknown
30. Yorkville Parking Deck 55 floors - unknown
31. Richmond Adelaide III - 44 Floors - unknown

List is likely subject to change.

[Gresto]

Sounds like America :cool:
True, and Canada, but with the inequality magnified many times.

[isaidso]

Mumbai, what a sick joke! Millions of people living in slums in abject poverty and their countrymen concern themselves with constructing monuments to wealth.

India is growing at 8%/year, has 1.2 billion people, and Mumbai is the country's business hub. If any city needs skyscrapers, it's Mumbai. It's growth rate far exceeds Toronto and has far less land. What would you suggest they build instead, thousands of subdivisions? Perhaps, thousands of strip malls to house businesses and another 3 million shacks for homes?

13 super talls is a good start for Mumbai, but they need hundreds of them. Mumbai needs them.

[Gresto]

Preach the need for skyscrapers to the millions of Mumbaians (60% of the city's inhabitants) living on landfill sites with raw sewage streaming past their cardboard huts.

Photos behind spoiler so as to try not to derail thread more than it already has been.

http://artsytime.com/img/misc/slumdogs-life/slumdogs-life02.jpg

http://artsytime.com/img/misc/slumdogs-life/slumdogs-life03.jpg

http://artsytime.com/img/misc/slumdogs-life/slumdogs-life24.jpg

http://artsytime.com/img/misc/slumdogs-life/slumdogs-life34.jpg

Yeah, corporate skyscrapers are a priority here.:rolleyes:

[Andrewjm3D]

200 meter plus building count - UC/Built/Proposed/Potential Development

1. FCP - 298
2. Scotiaplaza 275
3. Aura - 273
4. Trump - 276
5. Brookfield Place - 263
6. 10 York - 253 meters
7. 45 Bay - 244
8 90 Harbour - 239.5
9. 90 Harbour - 239.5
10. Commerce Court - 239
11. One Bloor - 238 (255)
12. ICE 2. - 234
13 43 Simcoe - 234
14. TD Centre 223
15. 156 Front Street - 221
16. Bay Adelaide centre - 218
17. Shangrila Toronto - 212
18. Ritz Toronto - 209
19. 2183 Lakeshore (Eau)
20. Bay Wellington - 208
21. 460 Yonge - 207
22. L Tower - 205
23. Four Seasons Toronto - 204
24. ICE West - 202 meters
25. 88 Scott - 202
26. Massey Tower - unknown
27. Yonge & Eglinton Bazis - unknown
28. 60 Harbour - unknown
29. 60 Harbour - unknown
30. Yorkville Parking Deck 55 floors - unknown
31. Richmond Adelaide III - 44 Floors - unknown

List is likely subject to change.

You forgot these 156 Front Street 234m & 222m

http://www.insidetorontocondos.com/wp-content/plugins/condomanager/views/condomanager_view_image.php?val=condo_156frontstw65!im_25132257426625

[isaidso]

You forgot these 156 Front Street 234m & 222m


Aren't those #13 and #15 on his list?

[isaidso]

Preach the need for skyscrapers to the millions of Mumbaians (60% of the city's inhabitants) living on landfill sites with raw sewage streaming past their cardboard huts.


Skyscrapers are the most efficient way of housing these people. You still haven't suggested a better alternative. There are 13 million people living on 600 sq km, so I'm all ears as to what you'd prefer to see built.

[Gresto]

Skyscrapers are the most efficient way of housing these people. You still haven't suggested a better alternative. There are 13 million people living on 600 sq km, so I'm all ears as to what you'd prefer to see built.
How about a vast expanse of mid-rise (5-10 storeys) affordable housing geared toward the penurious? Do they not deserve to live somewhere where they are not surrounded by unutterable filth and disease, especially at a time when others in the city are erecting glitzy behemoths for the nouveau riche?
Skyscrapers are not conducive to affordability; surely you're not naive enough to think that all these "fabulous" Mumbai supertalls, all of which, I notice, are residential, are being built with these slum-dwellers in mind.

Regardless, back to the topic at hand.

[GDS]

Massey Tower by MOD Developments is going ahead with plans for 60 story multiuse and are retaining ERA to restore the CIBC building.

[isaidso]

How about a vast expanse of mid-rise (5-10 storeys) affordable housing geared toward the penurious?

They just don't have that luxury. You're obviously not familiar with how scarce land is in that city. If Mumbai has any hope in hell of housing their people, they need to build exceedingly tall. In the developing world, high rises are the only sensible option for urban housing. Why do you think Sao Paulo looks like it does? Mumbai's population increases by 450,000 people every year. Your expanse of 5-10 storey proposals? Where are they going to build that, in the sea?

[Gresto]

They just don't have that luxury. You're obviously not familiar with how scarce land is in that city. If Mumbai has any hope in hell of housing their people, they need to build exceedingly tall. In the developing world, high rises are the only sensible option for urban housing. Why do you think Sao Paulo looks like it does? Mumbai's population increases by 450,000 people every year. Your expanse of 5-10 storey proposals? Where are they going to build that, in the sea?
No, what they don't have the luxury to do is build expensive skyscrapers when 60% of the city's inhabitants live in slums. What do you propose to do with the poor? Sweep them across the river into the countryside to put up luxe highrises in their place?
Besides, now you're being disingenuous, conveniently changing the subject from Mumbai's planned and underway supertalls to Sao Paulo's scores and scores of 12-30-storey residentials. That is a better plan for a place teeming with so many poor.

[Ramako]

Ten York (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=98543) will be 253.4 metres including mechanical penthouse: http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2012/te/bgrd/backgroundfile-44674.pdf

[Ramako]

Final Report on 88 Scott (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=94998): http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2012/te/bgrd/backgroundfile-44929.pdf

They've added office space to the podium and slightly altered the design. It will now be 204 metres to the mechanical roof.

[Ramako]

Preliminary Report for Eau Du Soleil: http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2012/ey/bgrd/backgroundfile-44816.pdf

The towers will be 62 (215.9 metres) and 40 storeys (151 metres).

[Gresto]

Thanks for that information, Ramako. Too bad they tinkered with 88 Scott.

[Travis007]

New rendering for 88 Scott.

Puke. This design went from bad to worse.


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7190/6894753191_9dd1298834_b.jpg

[Ramako]

Massey Tower


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7060/6917489195_e78a9e4018_o.jpg
http://www.buzzbuzzhome.com/massey-tower


At 60 storeys, this should be over 200 metres.

[Ramako]

After One Bloor there was a long drought, but now Toronto officially has over ten 200+ metre proposals:



--- QUICK LIST ---

(diagram (http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=52956531))


1. Ten York (Toronto): 253.4m / 831ft
2. 45 Bay Street (Toronto): 244m / 801ft
3. 90 Harbour Residential I (Toronto): 239.5m / 786ft
3. 90 Harbour Residential II (Toronto): 239.5m / 786ft
5. 43 Simcoe (Toronto): 234.3m / 769ft
6. 156 Front (Toronto): 221.9m / 728ft
7. Eau de Soleil I (Toronto): 215.9m / 708ft
8. Massey Tower (Toronto): ~~~m / ~~~ft
9. 460 Yonge (Toronto): 207m / 679ft
10. 88 Scott (Toronto): 204m / 669ft
11. 100 Adelaide West (Toronto): ~~~m / ~~~ft





--- RENDERS ---


1. Ten York (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=98543) (Toronto): 253.4m / 831ft

http://urbantoronto.ca/sites/default/files/imagecache/display-default/images/articles/2011/11/4127/urbantoronto-4127-12294.jpg



2. 45 Bay Street (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=61082) (Toronto): 244m / 801ft

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/mark3333/45bay.jpg

The Latest: In October 2010, SSP editor WhipperSnapper (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/member.php?u=1055) wrote, "I overheard something in regards to 45 Bay but I have no idea what it means. It covers the site being sold to the tower as we know it going ahead soon. In any case, there is movement behind the curtains. 45 Bay is minimum a year and a half away even what I heard (some specs but mostly big money numbers being tossed around) implies the building is a go. Looking back at what I heard, another possible outcome is the site will be developed in phases with the first phase being the parking to take advantage of the nearby ACC." Shortly thereafter UT member Batman (http://urbantoronto.ca/member.php?9175-Batman) wrote, "The base of 45 Bay will be the home of Toronto's new Coach Terminal."



3. 90 Harbour Residential I (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=98544) (Toronto): 239.5m / 786ft

http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac46/Fastwalking/90harbour3.jpg



3. 90 Harbour Residential II (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=98545) (Toronto): 239.5m / 786ft

http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac46/Fastwalking/90harbour3.jpg



5. 43 Simcoe (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=98068) (Toronto): 234.3m / 769ft

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/6500/22444155t.jpg
Note: On the left.



6. 156 Front (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=98067) (Toronto): 221.9m / 728ft

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/6500/22444155t.jpg
Note: On the right.



7. Eau de Soleil I (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=85624) (Toronto): 215.9m / 708ft

http://cdn.talkcondo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/talkcondo-new-condos-in-toronto-eau-du-soleil-condos.jpg
Note: On the left.



8. Massey Tower (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=15900) (Toronto): ~~~m / ~~~ft

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7060/6917489195_e78a9e4018_o.jpg



9. 460 Yonge (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=98542) (Toronto): 207m / 679ft

http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g371/Canadian__National/yonge2.jpg



10. 88 Scott Street (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=41763) (Toronto): 204m / 669ft

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7190/6894753191_9dd1298834_b.jpg



11. 100 Adelaide West (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=96511) (Toronto): ~~~m / ~~~ft

https://api.arcestra.com/api/files/4474415019694620102

[Travis007]

Official Massey Tower renderings released!

Check the UrbanToronto database for more information and renderings.

http://urbantoronto.ca/database/projects/massey-tower-condos

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7204/6793483178_4c93a4ca13_b.jpg

[Travis007]

460 Yonge Street, Toronto


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7197/6943774331_fc48915b66_b.jpg

[Ramako]

BREAKING NEWS!



From City of Toronto:

50 BLOOR ST W
Ward 27 - Tor & E.York District

Related Applications

OPA / Rezoning

Redevelopment of Holt Renfrew Site with a mixed-use condo development inclusive of existing and new space. It will include one 83-storey residential tower rising from an 8-storey commercial podium containing Holt Renfrew department store as well as other retail and service uses.
Application Number 12 141351 STE 27 OZ Application Status Application Submitted
Planner Name
Phone Number --- Status Date Mar 22, 2012
Community Meeting Date --- Date Received Mar 22, 2012
Statutory Meeting Date --- Proposed Non-Residential GFA (sq m) 18,835

Proposed Residential GFA (sq m) 71,780
Lot Size (sq m) 5,920
Proposed Residential Units 600
Proposed Storeys 83



If that's 75 storeys of condo above 8 storeys of retail/department store, we're probably looking at just slightly over 300 metres.

We may need a new "Proposals: Supertalls (300m+)" thread.

[DrNest]

Awesome news. I like the new thread suggestion too.

[Andrewjm3D]

Toronto is ready for a thread like that.

[Ramako]

New rendering of Ten York:


http://urbantoronto.ca/sites/default/files/imagecache/display-default/images/articles/2012/04/5288/urbantoronto-5288-16460.jpg
By Dumitru Onceanu at Urban Toronto (http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2012/04/tridels-ten-york-condos-makes-its-public-consultation-debut)


See more details here: http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2012/04/tridels-ten-york-condos-makes-its-public-consultation-debut

[Innsertnamehere]

that is an amazing building. great design there.

[Travis007]

50 Bloor Street West, Toronto, 83 st, 277 m



http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5322/6902924484_f94963f5b8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/roxxstarr/6902924484/)
50 Bloor Street West (http://www.flickr.com/photos/roxxstarr/6902924484/) by Traavis007 (http://www.flickr.com/people/roxxstarr/), on Flickr

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5193/7049016325_58e47ef81f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/roxxstarr/7049016325/)
50 Bloor West (http://www.flickr.com/photos/roxxstarr/7049016325/) by Traavis007 (http://www.flickr.com/people/roxxstarr/), on Flickr

[caltrane74]

And now the fun begins

[Travis007]

Eau du Soleil, Humber Bay Shores, Etobicoke, Toronto

Link via Urbandreamer on UrbanToronto: http://www.sharesnack.com/5DE9FED9E8C/fu50rfik

Renderings extracted by me for everyone's convenience:



http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7197/6944174976_efb185b205_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7107/7090244851_24fac2de0f_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7076/6944179928_53b2a8d03c_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7079/6944175760_7b6168b0ea_b.jpg

[Travis007]

Potential new rendering for Ten York.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7193/7094651939_d47f67e3ac_o.png

[Chadillaccc]

I actually love the newest rendering for Ten York... though I think a beastly beauty like that, with its funky design and whatnot, would look much better closer to the entertainment district possibly near the Shangri-La, especially considering that its height would be complimented by shangri la being much shorter yet still a very large and wide tower.

[Dr Nevergold]

Emporis is missing a ton of cities. To roof height as of 3 months ago, it was something like this:

01. Dubai (63) - 636 m
02. Hong Kong (61) - 484 m
03. New York (53) -381 m
04. Shanghai (46) - 487 m
05. Chicago (27) - 442 m

06. Shenzhen (27) - 325 m
07. Tokyo (21) - 296 m
08. Singapore (18) - 280 m
09. Guangzhou (16) - 441 m
10. Houston (14) - 305 m

11. Chongqing (14) - 283 m
12. Nanjing (13) - 317 m
13. Busan (13) - 301 m
14. Seoul (13) - 284 m
15. Kuala Lumpur (12) - 379 m

16. Bangkok (12) - 304 m
17. Los Angeles (11) - 310 m
18. Jakarta (11) - 262 m
19. Toronto (10) - 298 m
20. Atlanta (9) - 285 m

Bangkok, Seoul, Manila, and a whole whack of other cities are building lots of 200 m+ buildings as well. It's not as if these other cities are all standing still. Toronto will climb up the rankings, but would be lucky to squeak into the top 10. 6th spot isn't realistic.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1104105&page=14

A list is a list, but it is certainly interesting watching Toronto among these places. Some of them are far less impressive than Toronto (Houston, for example) regardless of a handful of tall buildings, but others are quite interesting. Studying the rise of Chongqing is most interesting as it was nothing some years ago and has become a new manufacturing super power. Albeit I want to see how fastly built Chinese cities last in the coming decades.

[Ramako]

Urban Toronto member deranged (http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/member.php/35228-deranged) reports on the changes to Ten York:

Went in with a person who works for Tridel and saw the floor plans of the re-design work in progress. It's indeed going to be like the marilyn Monroe building where the base is wide, narrows in the middle, and is wider on the top again. Instead it will not be circular, but a rectangle with a thin side and a fat side.
Project will be finalized and VIP sales will be in September after E Condo sales wrap up.

As per above, the main building is no longer a square, it will be a similar shape as the triangular base.
10 units per floor. 8 elevators in total - 4 high rise, 4 low rise.

The largest unit "protrudes out of the building and will have a view of south west and north. It's 900 sw ft.
The smallest unit is a bachelor unit at 488 sq ft.


Each floor will have 5 x 1bdrm units, 1 bachelor, 2 x 3bdrm, 1 x 1+den, and the 2+ den large "protruding" unit on the west side.

Tridel is emphasizing this will be one of the iconic buildings of the Toronto skyline. I'm so exited for it.

Sorry, forgot to mention that at the thinner parts of the building the 3bdrms are converted to 2+dens or even 2bdrms due to size constraints. Size of units vary from floor to floor.

The base will only have one retail unit and is unchanged in the plans that I saw.

[Innsertnamehere]

given that description, I decided to make a model of what it could look like..

http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac197/innsertnamehere/3.jpg

http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac197/innsertnamehere/2-2.jpg

http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac197/innsertnamehere/1-1.jpg

[DrNest]

I appreciate that is just you postulation of what Ten York will look like, but it is a great indicator of how tall this building will be compared to the others around it. Especially those already constructed like MLS.

[The_Architect]

Man, sucks for those who thought they were paying for a lake view in that Ice tower..

[Innsertnamehere]

That is a model of ice when it was only 65 floors.. But what does 2 floors matter?

[Gresto]

Thanks for the render, INH, and the info, Ramako.

[Ramako]

New line drawing for 50 Cumberland:


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8286/7711311288_7c41da756a_b.jpg
By: AlbertC (http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/member.php/171-AlbertC) at Urban Toronto (http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/showthread.php/17868-Cumberland-Yorkville-Parking-Garage-(near-Bay-amp-Yorkville-Minto-69-55s-Wallman)?p=657973#post657973)


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7278/7711311972_767c8deabd_b.jpg
By: AlbertC (http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/member.php/171-AlbertC) at Urban Toronto (http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/showthread.php/17868-Cumberland-Yorkville-Parking-Garage-(near-Bay-amp-Yorkville-Minto-69-55s-Wallman)?p=657973#post657973)

[DrNest]

I like it. Good looks and more height to the skyline.

[Dylan Leblanc]

ah so that would be right in beside 4 Seasons - http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=r8bpv28chtnr&lvl=18.24&dir=359.98&sty=o&eo=0&where1=43.671288%2C%20-79.389496&form=LMLTCC