TORONTO | Karma | 161 M / 528 FT | 50 FLOORS [Archive]

Tony

Feb 22, 2011, 8:10 PM

545 ft / 167.2 m to Mechanical, 160.2 m to roof.

Zoning Amendment has now been adopted.

http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2011/te/bgrd/backgroundfile-35408.pdf

Design is by Architects Alliance, should be good, but don't have any renderings at this time (just the elevation drawings available in the above report).

Gresto

Feb 22, 2011, 8:44 PM

"Meh" to the design based on the blueprints, but we'll take it.

caltrane74

Mar 2, 2011, 9:03 PM

Still, this could be a landmark for this part of Yonge and northward.

caltrane74

Mar 17, 2011, 8:35 AM

Most of the new proposals in Toronto seem to be in the 140 meter to 170 meter range. Not jawdropping by any measure, but good enough to create decent cityscapes with proper design.

caltrane74

Apr 20, 2011, 1:10 PM

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/9-21GrenvilleRend.jpg

Sneak peak for you guys...

from urbantoronto

Early Rendering For 52 Storey Condo At 9-21 Grenville Street By Lifetime And CentreCourt Developments

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Quick Pic: Early Rendering For 52 Storey Condo At 9-21 Grenville Street By Lifetime And CentreCourt Developments
April 20, 2011

Another tower is coming to the Yonge and College/Carlton as plans for 9-21 Grenville Street are slowly revealed. An early rendering of the base of the proposed 52 storey condo has been released.

Travis007

Jun 16, 2011, 5:29 PM

From UrbanToronto:

An image from the recent community meeting of the building showing the fritted glass balconies.

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3702/21grenvilleimg7578.jpg

caltrane74

Jul 4, 2011, 9:07 PM

Looks like Toronto international Film Festival Tower..

kinda...

photo by me

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3544/sany2543.jpg

Innsertnamehere

Jul 4, 2011, 9:14 PM

bleh! i hate the festival tower... not the base, the tower.

Travis007

Jul 5, 2011, 6:50 PM

^ Festival Tower looks great IMO. A simple but timeless modern design, minimal use of spandrels, and well executed wrap-around balconies...what's not to like about that? It's better looking than 90 % of the other glass box towers going up in the past 2-3 years.

yaletown_fella

Jul 9, 2011, 6:37 PM

Wrap around balconies are one of the worst things to happen to architecture since angel stone. Although they're okay if they're done right (like Casa)

Innsertnamehere

Jul 10, 2011, 12:03 AM

^ i agree that the balconies are well hidden, and that it looks better than many of the glass boxes going up, but i still find it quite bland. whether that is because of it being 1 colour, or it just being a giant box.

caltrane74

Jul 20, 2011, 3:26 PM

I don't have an opinion on Balconies one way or the other. - Although I prefer straight up curtianwall glass, with no balconies to be honest.

Travis007

Oct 5, 2011, 4:29 PM

Project name and rendering released, will be called "Karma Condos".

This project is to be known as Karma Condos. Website is being uploaded as I type http://www.karmacondos.com/ Edit: website is live check it out.:)

Full details including project rendering here: http://condosforu.com/2011/10/21-grenville-between-bay-yonge-north-of-college/

http://condosforu.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/karma-building-3.jpg

My opinion: It's attractive, but rather typical/conservative aA glass box design. Still much better than 75% of competing projects...but hey, I'd love to see some more red brick aA--like the base of Market Wharf for example...

edit: This is a preliminary rendering, project as per decision yesterday is to be modified...stay tuned for final rendering.

caltrane74

Oct 5, 2011, 5:00 PM

The podium is very nice....

Travis007

Oct 11, 2011, 10:18 PM

http://www.facebook.com/LifetimeDevelopments

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/302317_202019616538381_133647556708921_483046_1199252319_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/309548_202019566538386_133647556708921_483045_1469111773_n.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/314554_202019686538374_133647556708921_483048_1553558981_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/307154_202019763205033_133647556708921_483050_238087232_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/296863_202019883205021_133647556708921_483051_889471827_n.jpg

caltrane74

Oct 12, 2011, 1:18 PM

Very amazing interiors!!!!

J. Will

Oct 12, 2011, 1:49 PM

Wrap around balconies are one of the worst things to happen to architecture since angel stone. Although they're okay if they're done right (like Casa)

You may not like the aesthetically from the exterior, but they're awesome to have. I have a wrap-around terrace, and it's great to be able to get straight views out in multiple directions.

Dr Nevergold

Oct 12, 2011, 4:18 PM

I like the clean look, hopefully the glass is as slick as the renderings. I think the design is top notch, and the wrap around balconies? It breaks up the monotony... It is a nice, simplistic, post modern look.

caltrane74

Oct 12, 2011, 7:47 PM

Well yes, very modernist!

Dr Nevergold

Oct 17, 2011, 5:09 AM

I've already been advised how un-cool it is to say post modern, so I'll say "contemporary" just to move on... ;)

Travis007

Oct 17, 2011, 11:52 AM

Check out Karma's scale model from BuzzBuzzHome:

Looks nice! (http://www.buzzbuzzhome.com/karma-condos/photos/all/2011_10_13_05_42_49_Karma_Scale_Model2.JPG)

isaidso

Oct 17, 2011, 11:55 AM

I've already been advised how un-cool it is to say post modern, so I'll say "contemporary" just to move on... ;)

No harm in not knowing. I bet 90% of the general population wouldn't know either.

caltrane74

Oct 29, 2011, 6:23 PM

This project is good density filler.

caltrane74

Nov 4, 2011, 7:56 PM

Karma Sales Centre up!

cruzin4u at UT
http://www.candidbling.com/KARMA-03-11-2011.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/showthread.php/13286-Karma-(21-Grenville-St-Lifetime-CentreCourt-46s-approved-seeking-52s-aA)/page20

Travis007

Nov 5, 2011, 5:13 PM

Karma Condos selling like hot cakes. Oh yeah!!

From Lifetime Developments on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/LifetimeDevelopments

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/384622_209381739135502_133647556708921_505137_1401930092_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/377146_209381369135539_133647556708921_505125_1596179043_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/382938_209417315798611_133647556708921_505389_1899057174_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/388999_209381409135535_133647556708921_505126_1952372930_n.jpg

What a beaut.

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/374759_209381835802159_133647556708921_505140_4965249_n.jpg

caltrane74

Dec 12, 2011, 11:12 AM

Apparently Karma is selling units at prices over $700 per square foot. That's almost the same price as the condo suites in the Ritz Carlton.

caltrane74

Jan 9, 2012, 10:52 PM

So Karma has been approved at 50 Floors.

Should start shortly, I guess they sold out in their opening weekend.

Gresto

Jan 10, 2012, 12:37 AM

A slight diminution, apparently.

caltrane74

Jan 16, 2012, 12:56 AM

Yeah, 2 floors lower than what the developers wanted. Should still come in over 163 meters.

cruzin4u

Jan 19, 2012, 5:38 AM

Yeah, 2 floors lower than what the developers wanted. Should still come in over 163 meters.

What are the chances of a Minor Variance of 5 stories come construction time? Chaz went from 39 to 47, Five from 45 to 50 and the list goes on. I see Karma eventually being 52-to-55 stories.

LeftCoaster

Jan 19, 2012, 6:52 PM

Revised the height and storeys down based on recent approvals.

Andrewjm3D

Jan 19, 2012, 10:05 PM

I wonder why the city made them chop off two floors? I mean it's only a block away from a tower that will be more then 100m taller.

yaletown_fella

Jan 20, 2012, 6:02 AM

I'm not big fan of this design but if it ends up being constructed it will at least partially conceal the hideous late 80's salmon/beige colored condo tower next door.

Rico Rommheim

Jan 20, 2012, 6:17 AM

KARMA??! Running out of names I see...

yaletown_fella

Jan 20, 2012, 7:08 PM

Don't take my word for it but I believe it's supposed to be a Jersey Shore reference.

Andrewjm3D

Jan 20, 2012, 9:36 PM

I hope they plan on lighting up the crown at night. That would look pretty cool

caltrane74

Jan 26, 2012, 10:22 PM

90% sold out!!

Looks like this will be the next building under construction in Toronto over 500 feet!

caltrane74

Feb 4, 2012, 2:05 PM

KARMA??! Running out of names I see...

In the future new condos will be named for street names and numbers.

caltrane74

Mar 2, 2012, 6:17 PM

Interior Renderings

http://www.condo-living-west.com/toblog/images/karma3.jpg

More renderings

Here:

http://www.condo-living-west.com/tobuzz/2011/10/toronto-karma-condos/

philcloh2o

Oct 16, 2012, 6:07 PM

Looks like they have started.

http://i.imgur.com/LN14x.jpg
Photo by me

Been moving dirt around for a few days now. I work very close to this and can post updated photos.

caltrane74

Oct 16, 2012, 10:31 PM

We have to wait for foundations before it moves over to construction.

They've been shoring for about a month or more by now..

scalziand

Oct 17, 2012, 2:29 AM

Isn't that a caisson rig though?

Austinlee

Oct 17, 2012, 6:58 AM

Will I be able to walk my Dogma at the new Karma?

caltrane74

Oct 29, 2012, 10:16 PM

Isn't that a caisson rig though?

Yes, but the caissons also build the excavation walls, so the pit does not collaspe in on itself, right?

Design-mind

Dec 22, 2012, 6:27 PM

Are they moving the brick house to the other side of the lot? All the renderings and models I have seen show the brick house on the left rather than the right.

cruzin4u

Dec 22, 2012, 6:44 PM

Are they moving the brick house to the other side of the lot? All the renderings and models I have seen show the brick house on the left rather than the right.

You are correct. It will sit next to St. Luke Lane.

philcloh2o

Mar 28, 2013, 5:15 PM

http://i.imgur.com/0W4Ar0b.jpg

House as moved over.

Design-mind

Apr 3, 2013, 7:18 PM

House as moved over.

Thanks for the update philcloh2o! Nice to see that the house survived the move. Now let the digging begin.

Dwils01

May 17, 2013, 10:53 PM

Karma Condominiums
http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m498/DWils01/Toronto%20Ontario/DSC04270_zps1faf54bd.jpg (http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/DWils01/media/Toronto%20Ontario/DSC04270_zps1faf54bd.jpg.html)

Picture by me.

caltrane74

May 20, 2013, 1:49 AM

By me

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8395/8756210198_118fed8891_b.jpg

Dwils01

Aug 6, 2013, 10:58 PM

Karma Condominium at Grenville Street and St. Luke Lane.
http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m498/DWils01/Toronto%20Construction%202013/DSC04909_zps919eadc2.jpg (http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/DWils01/media/Toronto%20Construction%202013/DSC04909_zps919eadc2.jpg.html)

Photo by me.

cruzin4u

Oct 4, 2013, 2:39 AM

October 3rd by androiduk. Just about ... crane should arrive within a few weeks.

http://andrewfare.com/UTC/mytoronto22/karmao3.jpg

Gresto

Oct 4, 2013, 3:16 AM

Slowww!

Dwils01

Oct 22, 2013, 2:25 AM

Karma Condominiums on Grenville Street between Yonge Street and Bay Street.
http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m498/DWils01/Toronto%20Construction%202013/DSC05139_zps02c8ac8f.jpg (http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/DWils01/media/Toronto%20Construction%202013/DSC05139_zps02c8ac8f.jpg.html)

Picture by me.

caltrane74

Oct 26, 2013, 11:52 PM

Looks like the crane will be arriving shortly....

cruzin4u

Apr 10, 2014, 10:57 PM

April 9th by someMidTowner.

http://i.imgur.com/fwrzANQ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/JiYnnoL.jpg

yaletown_fella

Apr 11, 2014, 4:47 AM

Thanks for the pics. Unfortunately, this project is just barely crawling.

koops65

Apr 11, 2014, 4:57 AM

Needs to be moved to the U/C thread.

cruzin4u

Jul 30, 2014, 11:45 PM

July 30th by Benito. It's a grade - finally!

http://www.candidbling.com/IMG_4757.jpg

Johnland

Aug 3, 2014, 3:46 PM

Was the red brick house moved because the owners didn't sell but agreed to be moved?

Ramako

Aug 3, 2014, 7:40 PM

Was the red brick house moved because the owners didn't sell but agreed to be moved?

The heritage building is part of the development and will house retail. I think they moved it to make it more visible from Yonge Street.

Johnland

Aug 3, 2014, 8:21 PM

The heritage building is part of the development and will house retail. I think they moved it to make it more visible from Yonge Street.

Wow -that's cool. Love keeping a bit the old with the new.

caltrane74

Oct 17, 2014, 3:21 PM

by me

http://lh3.ggpht.com/-plMqB12J3ZQ/VDup3r2hj-I/AAAAAAAAS60/Jsyj4Bc2KPQ/s1600/IMG_20141013_063000.jpg

cruzin4u

Jan 26, 2015, 11:31 PM

January 25th, 2015 by urban_dreamer.

http://i.imgur.com/sBIxGKd.jpg

cruzin4u

May 29, 2015, 11:38 PM

May 27th, 2015 by steveve.

To the right is 50 storey Karma - in the foreground is 63 storey YC Condos.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7780/17989235228_e509c29b08_b.jpg

May 28th, 2015 by kris.

http://www.candidbling.com/5ptuqFs.jpg?1

caltrane74

Jun 1, 2015, 4:03 PM

my photos

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2zPOhwtwl8Y/VVpQNo2XZoI/AAAAAAAAURg/vd5q4n1oWl4/s1600/IMG_20150518_164758.jpg

caltrane74

Jul 2, 2015, 6:02 PM

by me

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BPDyWCaiE2M/VZU1ml98sgI/AAAAAAAAUpg/noxpyuR5z7o/s1600/IMG_20150702_085708.jpg

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2RskuY4sjVk/VZU1wzhO-VI/AAAAAAAAUpo/BHOoW_Efi5g/s1600/IMG_20150702_085627.jpg

caltrane74

Jul 18, 2015, 6:49 PM

by me

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ssX0os6qw8g/VaPVR6oNRyI/AAAAAAAAUrU/nMOK2mh2nKA/s1600/IMG_20150713_111050.jpg

caltrane74

Jul 29, 2015, 2:14 PM

by me

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9nPoMNRI-B4/VbZLvRfSH9I/AAAAAAAAUy8/HlGwEmd1rQw/s1600/IMG_20150727_111708.jpg

caltrane74

Aug 19, 2015, 2:30 PM

by me

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U1OfLxlQcgs/VcZ1vKfL9GI/AAAAAAAAU2Y/XfZ_caUOSbM/s1600/IMG_20150808_173255.jpg

caltrane74

Sep 10, 2015, 2:11 PM

by me

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-getAWOMKECo/VeR0OdcN64I/AAAAAAAAVEk/7vXYVa7rEAU/s1600/IMG_20150831_113442.jpg

caltrane74

Oct 2, 2015, 2:11 PM

Big update today!!

Ready?

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Vo_43lLPeks/VgwevEHjE7I/AAAAAAAAVSY/_ScVT1pndHE/s1600/IMG_20150930_133735.jpg

caltrane74

Oct 23, 2015, 2:40 PM

by me

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0jzyP7YCyNc/Vhyf_FWn5uI/AAAAAAAAVbk/76OwqDN29NA/s1600/IMG_20151013_020636.jpg

Dwils01

Nov 6, 2015, 1:43 AM

Karma, 9 Grenville Street. 50 floors, 165.9m.
http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m498/DWils01/Toronto%20Ontario/DSC05945_zpsuecsdzun.jpg (http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/DWils01/media/Toronto%20Ontario/DSC05945_zpsuecsdzun.jpg.html)
Picture by me.

caltrane74

Nov 7, 2015, 5:58 PM

my photo - this thing is getting taller

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5pg9WwhX9To/Vj47dp1hnUI/AAAAAAAAVjs/a6OGN4e-b4A/s1600/IMG_20151107_125625.jpg

caltrane74

Nov 11, 2015, 11:46 PM

Balcony glass

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zj6Jmm2VIhs/VkPSy5RvuEI/AAAAAAAAVmc/YkTHvu17fhc/s1600/IMG_20151111_184324.jpg

caltrane74

Nov 19, 2015, 3:12 PM

from yesterday

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6ntE1YJ4EtI/Vk3mesN1pbI/AAAAAAAAVsI/xx_LuBtjckE/s1600/IMG_20151119_101025.jpg

caltrane74

Nov 26, 2015, 9:13 PM

me! me! me!

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-y4lY-Ws3lv8/VldziAHRaFI/AAAAAAAAVvs/B86zoDXfKMM/s1600/IMG_20151126_160140.jpg

caltrane74

Dec 8, 2015, 4:49 AM

By me

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-G1eGwHOcqMQ/VmZgHhvY_1I/AAAAAAAAV0I/t0r-WIv1esc/s1600/IMG_20151207_234330.jpg

caltrane74

Dec 8, 2015, 3:38 PM

by me

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q0ervf2AosU/VmZenFh-BII/AAAAAAAAVz8/x-6UO2PxG-I/s1600/IMG_20151207_233700.jpg

caltrane74

Dec 13, 2015, 10:35 PM

By me

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FlthMA7Ydhk/Vm3x_D5HfTI/AAAAAAAAV3M/uQ7vhJN4xfc/s1600/IMG_20151213_164926.jpg

caltrane74

Dec 15, 2015, 3:13 PM

GL 17 at Urbantoronto - Karma and FIVE Condos (http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/toronto-karma-condos-166m-50s-lifetime-architectsalliance.13286/page-43#post-1060686)

http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attachments/img_4729-jpg.60997/

caltrane74

Dec 19, 2015, 8:40 PM

By me

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_TPO9v27NLE/VnXAbWabxuI/AAAAAAAAV6M/3SurQeUgtVc/s1600/IMG_20151219_153836.jpg

caltrane74

Dec 30, 2015, 5:12 PM

By me

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-f8xTZ4gJHmk/VoPpbAEKHRI/AAAAAAAAWCo/DgFUM4wZT3s/s1600/IMG_20151230_092335.jpg

caltrane74

Feb 18, 2016, 3:14 PM

from GL 17 at Urbantoronto (http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/toronto-karma-condos-166m-50s-lifetime-architectsalliance.13286/page-45)

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XJ7jLm7Bk2w/VsXfxmPK6aI/AAAAAAAAWIg/Zlmwupj5EoU/s1600/rsz_img_0131.jpg

koops65

Mar 21, 2016, 5:54 AM

Karma by me today:
http://i.imgur.com/rcXHFit.png

GeneralLeeTPHLS

Mar 21, 2016, 11:38 PM

Great updates guys!

koops65

Apr 14, 2016, 3:38 AM

Pic by me today...

http://i.imgur.com/11H2dnl.png

GeneralLeeTPHLS

Apr 18, 2016, 12:04 AM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zpwQ_5H5Pl4/VxQe1Iq6AZI/AAAAAAAABOE/zEUyJHa5AkA1KTNKPbVgfZlbmiI_nYhxg/w426-h239/DSC_0462.JPG
(by me0 From just east of Yonge and Gerrard, in the center is Karma, which has a really nice height, for the area

koops65

May 17, 2016, 10:30 PM

Aura and Karma:
http://i.imgur.com/26M4AVD.png
Pix by me today

koops65

Jun 13, 2016, 3:19 PM

Almost no change in 3 weeks...

http://i.imgur.com/ZjnDtIc.png
Pix by me June 11-2016

GeneralLeeTPHLS

Jun 30, 2016, 3:32 PM

Taken a few blocks East,
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TPLv77uF9c8/V3U7CePyadI/AAAAAAAAB5I/JGgBHXinhvwcYxzzeFrN7olWMnqzgG-qgCL0B/w748-h561-no/P1013235.JPG