Official Mountain West NBA Thread 2

[SLC Projects]

Yeah, it was a bad loss. The Jazz fell apart in the fourth like I've never seen. Too bad. But I still love em, and I'll be rooting for them tonight. Again, that's sports. I hate LA too. I loathe everything about them, but perhaps nothing more than how they just throw money and fame at the biggest, best, and least loyal players to bully the rest of the league. that's one thing I love about the Jazz. We're a small market team. We have little to lure players with besides good fans and a winning tradition. When we win, it's because we played together and played hard. If/when we get a championship, it won't be because we bought one, it will be because we fought for one and beat the odds.

:previous:
Well said. :worship:

At least the Jazz won last night when they beat Orlando. I really hope the Jazz can beat LA on Saturday.

[scottharding]

Me too. And if D-will plays the way he did last night, it'll happen.

[scottharding]

There you go Projects. The Jazz may have their ups and downs, but they handed it to the Lakers tonight. And Wes Mathews held Kobe to 7-24 shooting. Of course, the reason will be that once again, Kobe is nobly playing through injury. Whatever. He sucked. And I loved it.

[SnyderBock]

The Nuggets were down by 17 points to the Suns and 7 minutes later the Nuggets lead by 1 and went on to win.

[TonyAnderson]

I love the throwback Jazz uniforms and can't stand their current ones.

[Ilsaz]

The Nuggets were down by 17 points to the Suns and 7 minutes later the Nuggets lead by 1 and went on to win.

I had tickets to this game and went on a date instead.

I should have gone to the game. :(

[SLC Projects]

There you go Projects. The Jazz may have their ups and downs, but they handed it to the Lakers tonight. And Wes Mathews held Kobe to 7-24 shooting. Of course, the reason will be that once again, Kobe is nobly playing through injury. Whatever. He sucked. And I loved it.

:previous:
Even I had to hand it to them that they did much better then I first thought. Going 3-1 this week when they had to play the Orlando, Spurs and the Lakers twice isn't bad at all.
Even if they keep winning I still feel that the slow start to this season is going to come back and bite them later on and that I don't think they will ever catch up and pass Denver if Denver keeps winning.

[SLC Projects]

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[SLC Projects]

God Damn it Jazz. Nice to see these guys let yet another one go. Oh Sure they can beat Orland or Lakers or Spurs, but yet they lose to the T-wolfs....not once but twice this season. This is what I'm talking about people with these guys. :hell: :hell: :hell: :hell: :hell: :hell: :hell: :hell:

[Ronald-Dregan]

Yea It was a pretty disapointing loss last night. We will really see where the jazz are on this East Coast swing. I still have faith, they will have a breakout run. Its gonna be Utah and Denva battling for the title since Portland is hurting right now.

[blm3034L!fe]

:previous:
Even I had to hand it to them that they did much better then I first thought. Going 3-1 this week when they had to play the Orlando, Spurs and the Lakers twice isn't bad at all.
Even if they keep winning I still feel that the slow start to this season is going to come back and bite them later on and that I don't think they will ever catch up and pass Denver if Denver keeps winning.

That would be hard for Utah IMHO Mello is going to most likely be the Leagues MVP this Season! And all the hard work and minimum 32 pts per game he is a man on a mission! And that mission is bringing Denver a CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!!

Denver was close last year, but the Lakers proved to be a little too strong, but our bench this Season and the Starters like Nene and KMart are really stepping up thier game too.

GO NUGGETS!

[SLC Projects]

Jazz=:Titanic: :drowning: :dead:

Nice to see last season is repeating itself. I told you guys from the beginning.

[Ronald-Dregan]

Win or loose.
I still have pride in my team

[TonyAnderson]

Bring back the music note and purple, gold, (and green) and I'll have some pride :)

Edit:
http://www.sorenwinslow.com/Img/Jazz/Utah-Jazz-1980-1996.jpg
Oh yeah!

http://www.logodesignworks.com/logo-designs/logo-design-u/main/UtahJazz.gif
Oh no

[Strange Meat]

that last one is just like "we wish we were denver"

[blm3034L!fe]

that last one is just like "we wish we were denver"

Don't say that bro, next thing you know this thread will be locked down! LOL ;)
Although it does kinda seem like an identity crisis logo. First off there is no relation to Jazz Music in Utah what so ever! It's a transplant team from New Orleans. How that happened? Or better yet why it happened? I couldn't tell ya. But the Nuggets Originated from right here in the Mile High City.

Oh did I mention that the Nuggets beat the Spazz last night in Utah? And a few key players on Nuggets bench were not even playing!!!

[TonyAnderson]

Don't say that bro, next thing you know this thread will be locked down! LOL ;)
Although it does kinda seem like an identity crisis logo. First off there is no relation to Jazz Music in Utah what so ever! It's a transplant team from New Orleans. How that happened? Or better yet why it happened? I couldn't tell ya. But the Nuggets Originated from right here in the Mile High City.

Oh did I mention that the Nuggets beat the Spazz last night in Utah? And a few key players on Nuggets bench were not even playing!!!

It happened because they moved the team from New Orleans to Utah :) Why? Because they were bought my Larry Miller who lived in Utah. I don't mind the name, just the logo / identity. Regardless if the Nuggets originiated in Denver, you can't be happy with that name ;) And the Jazz look is similar to the Nuggets, though it was the Nuggets who changed theirs to reflect what the Jazz looked like, including the blue colors. I don't like the Nuggets look either - seems an odd mix. Though adding in some navy blue this year helped.

You guys should go back to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fe/Denver_rockets.jpg

[SLC Projects]

that last one is just like "we wish we were denver"

:previous:
I bet they wish they were Denver after that embarrassing beat down they gave the Jazz the other night here in Salt Lake.

[CPVLIVE]

And the Jazz look is similar to the Nuggets, though it was the Nuggets who changed theirs to reflect what the Jazz looked like, including the blue colors.

Not so much. Denver went navy blue in 93/94 and to powder blue in 2003/04. The jazz weren't in blue until 2004/05

Nuggets 1993/94 - 2003/04

Logo and Uniforms

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/tht30q65rj1sca9rhsq5zfoih.gifhttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/zzhcyru4hzagdj8q5zphhn3g2.gifhttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/vhph3ejlgdv9js7xfdgtupb3u.gif

The nuggets went from navy blue to powder blue in 2003/04 - one year prior to the Jazz changing

Nuggets 2003/04 - present

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/xeti0fjbyzmcffue57vz5o1gl.gifhttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/mglwj8uels0kba525wgh36ypo.gifhttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/hz28e1eehdsqjhqkwpeo83777.gif


Jazz 1984/85 - 1995/1996

Logo until 1995/96 and uniforms

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/wngsuqhi4laygst4ffe8wfeti.gifhttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/va9mh3gbstvpppf99dkb9nmfh.gifhttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/hih6zbqv6fo0mfo55kj9cfpwz.gif

Jazz 1996/97 - 2004/05

Logo and uniforms

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/8316e7nrg5xuouqqo21bjgem9.gifhttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/yi3vrny729ajnq7yvl3dz0jah.gifhttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/bf4fw9xbflo9zqf9oiepoui9h.gif



Jazz 2004/05 - present

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/jy1tqovzbqgvrp2a5phwtvdfh.gifhttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/srdp3kglxhpinhgcfoyhojiee.gifhttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/zkymf3o1sttehcdhrwidld732.gif

[blm3034L!fe]

Not so much. Denver went navy blue in 93/94 and to powder blue in 2003/04. The jazz weren't in blue until 2004/05

Nuggets 1993/94 - 2003/04

Logo and Uniforms

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/tht30q65rj1sca9rhsq5zfoih.gifhttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/zzhcyru4hzagdj8q5zphhn3g2.gifhttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/vhph3ejlgdv9js7xfdgtupb3u.gif

The nuggets went from navy blue to powder blue in 2003/04 - one year prior to the Jazz changing

Nuggets 2003/04 - present

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/xeti0fjbyzmcffue57vz5o1gl.gifhttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/mglwj8uels0kba525wgh36ypo.gifhttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/hz28e1eehdsqjhqkwpeo83777.gif


Jazz 1984/85 - 1995/1996

Logo until 1995/96 and uniforms

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/wngsuqhi4laygst4ffe8wfeti.gifhttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/va9mh3gbstvpppf99dkb9nmfh.gifhttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/hih6zbqv6fo0mfo55kj9cfpwz.gif

Jazz 1996/97 - 2004/05

Logo and uniforms

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/8316e7nrg5xuouqqo21bjgem9.gifhttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/yi3vrny729ajnq7yvl3dz0jah.gifhttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/bf4fw9xbflo9zqf9oiepoui9h.gif



Jazz 2004/05 - present

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/jy1tqovzbqgvrp2a5phwtvdfh.gifhttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/srdp3kglxhpinhgcfoyhojiee.gifhttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/monkeymonkeynone/zkymf3o1sttehcdhrwidld732.gif


I like the Nuggets uniforms before 93' the one's in the 80's! Those were cool and before the rainbow/colors was/were considered a gay thing.

[SandSailor]

I liked the rainbow colored block style skyline uni! Know which one I am talking about?

[SLC Projects]

Dear Greg Miller, Just trade them all. Sincerely whatever Jazz fans are left.

[TonyAnderson]

I liked the rainbow colored block style skyline uni! Know which one I am talking about?

I think rainbows suit Denver well:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/41/Denvernuggets.jpg
Wikicommons


After this current phase, maybe teams will go back to the funky 80's styles.

[SandSailor]

That was the one! Digging it! Thanks for the find.

[blm3034L!fe]

^ That one was one of the Best logo designs, even if now it would be considered "gay" or "gaypride" it wasn't part of that during that time period. I always thought of it like Tetris. and it is one of the rare Logo's that had a city or buildings in it. Very cool IMHO you just don't see that now days.

[TonyAnderson]

I agree. I don't remember what the uniforms looked like with it though.

[enjo13]

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/bk_AAHX089_8x10~Alex-English-Posters.jpg

[SLC Projects]

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/bk_AAHX089_8x10~Alex-English-Posters.jpg

:previous:
Ugly. :yuck:

[TonyAnderson]

So I was flicking through the channels last night and stumbled up on the Jazz vs Cavs on TNT with only 5 seconds left in the game. Fortunate timing.

tMWO7t0b7d8

[SLC Projects]

LOL, So I was listening to the game up til the last 30 sec of the game since the Jazz were behind by 4 points. I didn't even know they won til this morning when I looked at the sports in the newspaper. I remember asking myself "I wounder how much the Jazz lost by" only to see a photo of the Jazz all jumping for joy after the game winning shot. A part of me kicks myself for not sticking around. But yet how many times do you see the Jazz make a 3-pointer buzzer beater when behind?........Like never. :haha:
But good win for the Jazz, I'll give them that. Now watch as they lose to a bad time at home. :haha:

[scottharding]

I was at the game. It was amazing. It sure was funny to see maybe a quarter of the stadium empty out with about two minutes to go. Those people, who paid good money for that game, robbed themselves. Suckers. They're so like the half-assed, fair-weather fans I've made comments about on this thread. Sucks to be you. If you can't take the worst moments, seems you don't get the best ones either. It was pandemonium in that place. So much fun.
The Jazz have played awesome of late. They destroyed Dallas and Miami, by a total of over 50 points. Then, when they're offense is a complete mess against the Cavs, they grind it out on defense, play their guts out til the clock runs out and come away with an amazing win. That's all I'll ever ask of my team.

[TonyAnderson]

So much anger today Scott ;)

And the Jazz had to play the last part of that game with Deron hurt.

[scottharding]

So much anger today Scott ;)

And the Jazz had to play the last part of that game with Deron hurt.

Haha, yeah, I guess you're right. I'm so opinionated today. Sorry if I'm pissing you all off. I don't mean to.
And yeah, it sucked that Deron and AK went down. I hope it's not gonna keep him out for long. Deron's didn't look that bad, but AK's probably is.

[TonyAnderson]

I'm certainly not pissed off about anything, it's not my nature. Plus I'm not one of those fair weather fans. I'm actually quite diverse in the teams I like. For instance, MLB I like the Phillies, NBA I like the Lakers, NHL I'm a Pittsburgh fan, and the same for NFL (will change this month). And in fact for MLS I'm actually a big Real Salt Lake fan.

[scottharding]

The Jazz dispatched the Bucks easily enough tonight. That's four straight very convincing wins. The only one they didn't win by double figures was against Cleveland, and that one they won on pure guts and effort.

[SLO]

I'm certainly not pissed off about anything, it's not my nature. Plus I'm not one of those fair weather fans. I'm actually quite diverse in the teams I like. For instance, MLB I like the Phillies, NBA I like the Lakers, NHL I'm a Pittsburgh fan, and the same for NFL (will change this month). And in fact for MLS I'm actually a big Real Salt Lake fan.

Looks like you are a front runner fan...

[SLC Projects]

Here it is UB.

[urbanboy]

:previous:

Thanks Projects

Jazz sign Gaines for season

USA Today


SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — The Utah Jazz have signed rookie point guard Sundiata Gaines for the rest of the season.

Gaines has had two 10-day contracts with the Jazz, who said Monday he will be spending the remainder of the season with Utah.

Gaines has been a fan favorite since his 3-pointer at the buzzer beat the Cleveland Cavaliers on Jan. 14.

He has played in seven games since the Jazz picked him up from the NBA Development League Idaho Stampede.

The Jazz also said Monday they have reassigned reserve center Kosta Koufos to the Utah Flash of the NBADL.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/2010-01-25-803827580_x.htm

[TonyAnderson]

Looks like you are a front runner fan...

Definitely

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2379/2452693801_f9fab72111.jpg
samwibatt (http://www.flickr.com/photos/samwibatt/2452693801/) (flickr)

[blm3034L!fe]

Need LA Fakers to loose some more games to fill the 3-4 Game gap between LA and Denver. Mello has been out the past two games and the Nuggs are still pullin out the W 31-14 Record and counting!!!

GO NUGGETS!!! :whip:

[SLC Projects]

would be nice if the Jazz could flipping win a HOME GAME!!! Once again those damn Chicken Nuggets gets lucky.

[scottharding]

Come on! They're the best team in the league since the start of the new year! They drop one game less that twenty-four hours after a tough overtime victory on the road, and go without two starters, play a great game, and just come up short, and now you jump on the forum and comment?
The jazz are kicking ass and I couldn't be happier with what they're doing right now.

[Giovoni]

would be nice if the Jazz could flipping win a HOME GAME!!! Once again those damn Chicken Nuggets gets lucky.

How have the nuggets been lucky? If anything it's the opposite.. they are playing down to competition again (which they had a talent for doing back in the 80's when Alex English was around) esp when they are possibly tired (back to back after an OT - game at Washington looked horrid on paper - I'm glad I dind't find a place to watch it)

[blm3034L!fe]

would be nice if the Jazz could flipping win a HOME GAME!!! Once again those damn Chicken Nuggets gets lucky.

REALLY!? utah would have been a FULL SWEEP! but Both Chauncey and Mello were absent for game 4 between Denver and Utard. A Spazz can call A Nugget a chicken all he wants. None of it really matters until the end of the Season. I am confident where my team will be, let's go back and check some posts from the Spazz fans and see how confident you guys have been this Season.

Up until late it's been alot of bitching and moaning about how the Spazz suck! And Boozer needs to go away yabba dabba do! Last year Denver played well in the Finals with LA. This year We are focused on taking LA out and going all the way! Dig a little deeper into the Nuggets and what they are doing, trust me they are prepairing for a CHAMPIONSHIP!!! this is our year a Championship is finally coming to Denver and the Nuggets this Season... :whip: :cheers: :yes:

[scottharding]

I think when he says "Chicken nuggets" he's referring to the Hawks, who Utah lost to last night. Denver didn't play last night, did they?

[Giovoni]

I think when he says "Chicken nuggets" he's referring to the Hawks, who Utah lost to last night. Denver didn't play last night, did they?

no that's why I was confused! What a misleading prejorative... !

[scottharding]

Yeah, I don't think anybody but a homer could be calling the Nuggets lucky these days. They're for real. They've proved it.
Near the start of the New Year, an ESPN analyst picked Utah to finish 2nd in the West. When he made that prediction, Utah was sitting in 9th place. He seemed to know what he was talking about. Utah has lept up to 3rd, and isn't far behind Denver, but I think he underestemated the Nuggets. I don't think Utah will fall below the 3rd seed, but cathing Denver won't be so easy.

[TonyAnderson]

Regardless if he meant the term for the Hawks, that's my new favorite word for the (chicken) Nuggets.

Jazz are playing great. Personally I think it goes:

1. Lakers
2. Maveriks (with recent trade)
3. chicken nugs
4. Jazz

I wouldn't rule out the Spurs either during the playoffs when they start kicking it up a notch.

[SLC Projects]

trust me they are prepairing for a CHAMPIONSHIP!!! this is our year a Championship is finally coming to Denver and the Nuggets this Season... :whip: :cheers: :yes:

:previous:
Didn't you said the SAME thing about the Denver Broncos last fall?....yea, how did that work out for you guys? :jester:

Wait has the "Chicken Nuggets" EVER been to the NBA finals?......no. And the Jazz have been there what...twice. Sure they lost, but at least they made it twice while Denver is yet to go once. :yes: I think as long as kobe is playing for the Fakers the Denver Nuggets will always be their bitches in the playoffs ( And this is coming from someone who really hates the Lakers. )

[SLC Projects]

How have the nuggets been lucky? If anything it's the opposite.. they are playing down to competition again (which they had a talent for doing back in the 80's when Alex English was around) esp when they are possibly tired (back to back after an OT - game at Washington looked horrid on paper - I'm glad I dind't find a place to watch it)

:previous:
Well last season the Nugs where just lucky that the Jazz had all their injuries that kept them from winning more then 50 games. Hell they were lucky to even win 48 games.

This season the Nugs are lucky again that the Jazz had their piss poor start to the season. Sure now the Jazz are playing some great B-Ball. But I still have a feeling when the season's over the Jazz will be one or two games shy of passing up Denver and then the Jazz will be looking back at those home loses to below .500 teams.

So in other words watching the Jazz try to catch up to Denver and pass them up is like watching paint dry. They could of tied for the first time this season, but instead they are going to full back a game. It's frustrating.

[SLC Projects]

I think when he says "Chicken nuggets" he's referring to the Hawks, who Utah lost to last night. Denver didn't play last night, did they?

:previous:
No I meant the Denver Nuggets. They didn't play last night, but got lucky when the Jazz could of tied them up for the number 2 spot.

[atlas400]

Didn't you said the SAME thing about the Denver Broncos last fall?....yea, how did that work out for you guys? atleast we got a football team lmao not like you guys

[Giovoni]

:previous:
Didn't you said the SAME thing about the Denver Broncos last fall?....yea, how did that work out for you guys? :jester:

Wait has the "Chicken Nuggets" EVER been to the NBA finals?......no. And the Jazz have been there what...twice. Sure they lost, but at least they made it twice while Denver is yet to go once. :yes: I think as long as kobe is playing for the Fakers the Denver Nuggets will always be their bitches in the playoffs ( And this is coming from someone who really hates the Lakers. )

Really? being better at losing is what we're going to argue now?

Both Utah and Denver are playing great.. I'd only be "slightly" less thrilled if it was Utah who knocked the Lakers down a couple pegs. From the way both teams are playing either could (so might the Mavs.. we'll see how they do now). But really.. is there anything more pathetic than saying "we've lost the championship more than you have?"

[scottharding]

:previous:
No I meant the Denver Nuggets. They didn't play last night, but got lucky when the Jazz could of tied them up for the number 2 spot.

Oh, that makes sense. In that case, yeah, the Nuggets did get lucky that they didn't get caught. The Jazz almost had that game even without D-will and AK.
Still, I don't think you're right about the Lakers being a sure bet against the Nuggets. Denver is tough, and they handed it to LA just a week ago. If anyone in the West can beat LA, it's Denver. And, though as a Jazz fan I don't like Denver, I'll take them over LA a hundred times.

[SLC Projects]

Really? being better at losing is what we're going to argue now?

Both Utah and Denver are playing great.. I'd only be "slightly" less thrilled if it was Utah who knocked the Lakers down a couple pegs. From the way both teams are playing either could (so might the Mavs.. we'll see how they do now). But really.. is there anything more pathetic than saying "we've lost the championship more than you have?"

:previous:
Not as pathetic as your Nuggets. Again as long as the Lakers are around you clowns will only be 2rd best.

[SLC Projects]

atleast we got a football team lmao not like you guys

:previous:
Wow, to have a pro football team that plays on the same level as our collage football teams. I'm so jealous. LOL

[scottharding]

Regardless if he meant the term for the Hawks, that's my new favorite word for the (chicken) Nuggets.

Jazz are playing great. Personally I think it goes:

1. Lakers
2. Maveriks (with recent trade)
3. chicken nugs
4. Jazz

I wouldn't rule out the Spurs either during the playoffs when they start kicking it up a notch.

I don't think the Mavericks will pass the Jazz or the Nuggets. How many trades now have they made the last few seasons that were supposed to make them better? Never did. I don't look for this one to make much of a difference. Same goes for the Spurs. They're run is over. And their summer trades for Richard Jefferson were supposed to make them contenders again. Then last month they were desperately trying to unload him.
Trades don't solve teams problems as much as people would like to think. Unless it's just adding a final piece, say with Denver adding Billups or Cleveland adding Jamison, it's just a new player hopping on a bandwagon with wheels falling off. The Mavericks short-comings aren't solved by this addition. I'm thinking the standings aren't gonna change much in the top 4 the rest of the season. There may be a bit of volley, but my guess is that this is how it will play out:
LA
Denver
Utah
Dallas

Utah may catch Denver, but they own the tie-breaker. Dallas may catch Utah, but the Jazz get the tie-breaker there.

[Giovoni]

:previous:
Not as pathetic as your Nuggets. Again as long as the Lakers are around you clowns will only be 2rd best.

Which apparently you revel in.. so which is it for us? Should we be thrilled to be 2nd best as you are with the Jazz; or should we keep trying to get a championship and not spend time pointing out to teams like say OK that they've never been to the Western conference finals and so they suck (I know they went as Seattle don't bother with that)?

[atlas400]

Your football team sucks so that's not saying much we have 2 championships.... how many do you guys have????? 0! yea thats what i thought. LMAO And maybe will never have one hahahaha

[SLC Projects]

Which apparently you revel in.. so which is it for us? Should we be thrilled to be 2nd best as you are with the Jazz; or should we keep trying to get a championship and not spend time pointing out to teams like say OK that they've never been to the Western conference finals and so they suck (I know they went as Seattle don't bother with that)?

:previous:
No I'm just saying it's kind of pathetic that the Denver Nuggets have been around since the 70's and til this day they still have yet to make it to the NBA Final while the Jazz have been twice. Who cares if the Jazz lost both times. Lets see how well the Nugs would do against the greatest NBA player of all time. :yes: My point was that the Jazz have gone further then the Nuggets have. But we'll see if those Chicken Nuggets can make it to the NBA finals, but I believe it will be those annoying LA Lakers again who will be in the finals. Denver is good, but I don't think they are great. :yes:

[SLC Projects]

we have 2 championships.... how many do you guys have????? 0! yea thats what i thought. LMAO And maybe will never have one hahahaha

:previous:
Yawn. THANKS CAPTAIN OBVIOUS! I'm glad you can count.

[scottharding]

SLCProjects, you're weird. You come on here everytime the Jazz drop a game and talk about how pathetic they are and how much they suck. The Jazz win 9 straight games, and you don't say a word. They lose a close one and you're back ragging on them. But then someone else defends their own team and suddenly you praise the Jazz as winners, and tear on other fans about their teams. Do you even like sports? Or is being better than someone else all you care about?
Everyone else, please don't judge us Jazz fans on his comments alone. Anyone who loves the game will give credit where credit is due. This season is awesome. There are some great teams stacked against each other in the West, and it's a dog fight that's been very fun to watch.

[blm3034L!fe]

:previous:
Didn't you said the SAME thing about the Denver Broncos last fall?....yea, how did that work out for you guys? :jester:

Wait has the "Chicken Nuggets" EVER been to the NBA finals?......no. And the Jazz have been there what...twice. Sure they lost, but at least they made it twice while Denver is yet to go once. :yes: I think as long as kobe is playing for the Fakers the Denver Nuggets will always be their bitches in the playoffs ( And this is coming from someone who really hates the Lakers. )

REALLY!?

Last I checked Utah doesn't have an NFL Franchise! "Probably never will"

this is a NBA Thread at least last I checked. Good call though about my saying the Broncos going all the way and not doing so. It's called being a fan, and having faith and hoping and praying every Sunday. I guess when Utah ends up with an NFL Franchise in 50 Years or so, then you might understand. Until then, let's just stick to the NBA topic of the Thread there sporto!!! :whip:

And as for LA vs Denver we will see, I sure hope you don't end up eating your words and Denver achieve something that Utah has yet to do. Not only an NBA Championship but an NFL team as well. Speaking of Bitches Utah sure does like to play catch up when it comes to Colorado don't they! Too bad Utah will ALWAYS Be in the REARVIEW!!!

[Giovoni]

:previous:
No I'm just saying it's kind of pathetic that the Denver Nuggets have been around since the 70's and til this day they still have yet to make it to the NBA Final while the Jazz have been twice. Who cares if the Jazz lost both times. Lets see how well the Nugs would do against the greatest NBA player of all time. :yes: My point was that the Jazz have gone further then the Nuggets have. But we'll see if those Chicken Nuggets can make it to the NBA finals, but I believe it will be those annoying LA Lakers again who will be in the finals. Denver is good, but I don't think they are great. :yes:

It is definitely a dissapointment and I'd like to watch the Nuggets play in the finals sometime soon, this year they have as good a chance as any.

But if we're going to do this kind of talk:

Utah has savored the sweet sweet bliss of yelling "We're number two!!" .. twice. And yeah thats an ok feeling - its probably as great as getting to watch your twin brother get to bang the prom queen, GREAT feeling that. I know because Denver got to do that 4 times before the 2 football world championships. This also happened once in baseball. Sadly the Avalance have never gotten to enjoy being second best like the mighty mighty Jazz, because the same Nuggets owners, who you claim are pathetic, put two championship teams together in two finals appearances in hockey.

Believe me, Denver knows how wonderful it is to be also-rans because the city's sports scene was at that point until the 1990's... Utah doesn't have to teach us how to do that; if you can continue to not win championships from your Baseball, Football and Hockey pro franchises you might be able to show the whole country how to master being that though.

[SLC Projects]

REALLY!?

Last I checked Utah doesn't have an NFL Franchise! "Probably never will"
Until then, let's just stick to the NBA topic of the Thread there sporto!!! :whip:



:previous:
Tell that to atlas400 "THANKS CAPTAIN OBVIOUS" who keeps egging on the fact the SLC doesn't have a NFL team. Who flipping cares if SLC has a NFL team or not. I'm talking about Denver, and how I thought it was funny how people thought the broncos would make it all the way, but then fell flat in the 2rd half of the season and didn't even make the playoffs and you guys best defense is "Oh Salt Lake doesn't have a NFL team" Really? Salt Lake will get a NFL team sooner then 50 years. That's a lame comment. I could go as far as say something like maybe "Denver will get to host the Winter Games in 50 years". But that's beside the point.
I do agree that we are all getting off track with this debate with the NBA teams.

[SLC Projects]

SLCProjects, you're weird. You come on here everytime the Jazz drop a game and talk about how pathetic they are and how much they suck. The Jazz win 9 straight games, and you don't say a word. They lose a close one and you're back ragging on them. But then someone else defends their own team and suddenly you praise the Jazz as winners, and tear on other fans about their teams. Do you even like sports? Or is being better than someone else all you care about?
Everyone else, please don't judge us Jazz fans on his comments alone. Anyone who loves the game will give credit where credit is due. This season is awesome. There are some great teams stacked against each other in the West, and it's a dog fight that's been very fun to watch.

:previous:
I don't see how that makes me weird that just because I get disappointed with my home team, I now can't talk trash about other teams? Come on scottharding, it's all just sports trash talk. I just think it's funny how our friends to the east think their team is the shit when they are still yet to make it to the finals. Nothing wrong about being a fan, but get off your horse Denver til you can prove us otherwise. I don't like the Denver Nuggets or the Lakers, I would love to see the Jazz kick both of those team's trash, but I've been disappointed since the Jazz went 1-4 over Denver and so far are 1-2 over the Lakers. :( You give me a hard time for not ragging on them when the Jazz had their 9 game winning steak. But what about you? You call yourself a Jazz fan where have you been when the Jazz have been playing so hot? It seems you ONLY comment on here after I do. :shrug:
Yes I do give Jazz credit for them winning what 17 of there last 20 games? That's really good. Not good enough to pass Denver. It seems when ever they get close they choke. At least that's been the case for the pass two season.

But whatever I thought this thread has been boring as of late so I thought I would stir the pot a bit. It's all just good fun sports trash talk.

[SLC Projects]

It is definitely a dissapointment and I'd like to watch the Nuggets play in the finals sometime soon, this year they have as good a chance as any.

But if we're going to do this kind of talk:

Utah has savored the sweet sweet bliss of yelling "We're number two!!" .. twice. And yeah thats an ok feeling - its probably as great as getting to watch your twin brother get to bang the prom queen, GREAT feeling that. I know because Denver got to do that 4 times before the 2 football world championships. This also happened once in baseball. Sadly the Avalance have never gotten to enjoy being second best like the mighty mighty Jazz, because the same Nuggets owners, who you claim are pathetic, put two championship teams together in two finals appearances in hockey.

Believe me, Denver knows how wonderful it is to be also-rans because the city's sports scene was at that point until the 1990's... Utah doesn't have to teach us how to do that; if you can continue to not win championships from your Baseball, Football and Hockey pro franchises you might be able to show the whole country how to master being that though.

:previous:
Fair enough.

[TonyAnderson]

we have 2 championships.... how many do you guys have????? 0! yea thats what i thought. LMAO And maybe will never have one hahahaha

Who's we?

[TonyAnderson]

I don't think the Mavericks will pass the Jazz or the Nuggets. How many trades now have they made the last few seasons that were supposed to make them better? Never did. I don't look for this one to make much of a difference. Same goes for the Spurs. They're run is over. And their summer trades for Richard Jefferson were supposed to make them contenders again. Then last month they were desperately trying to unload him.
Trades don't solve teams problems as much as people would like to think. Unless it's just adding a final piece, say with Denver adding Billups or Cleveland adding Jamison, it's just a new player hopping on a bandwagon with wheels falling off. The Mavericks short-comings aren't solved by this addition. I'm thinking the standings aren't gonna change much in the top 4 the rest of the season. There may be a bit of volley, but my guess is that this is how it will play out:
LA
Denver
Utah
Dallas

Utah may catch Denver, but they own the tie-breaker. Dallas may catch Utah, but the Jazz get the tie-breaker there.

This is the final piece for the Mavericks. They have an all-star lineup

1 Jason Kidd
2 Caron Butler
3 Shawn Marion
4 Dirk
5 Brendon Haywood

Coming off the bench with Jason Terry, Dampier, Stevenson, and a few other good role players.

They just beat the Lakers tonight without Butler, a 20 ppg player. They're going to be very, very tough.

The Western playoffs are going to be GREAT, even in the first round.

[Giovoni]

:previous:
I don't see how that makes me weird that just because I get disappointed with my home team, I now can't talk trash about other teams? Come on scottharding, it's all just sports trash talk. I just think it's funny how our friends to the east think their team is the shit when they are still yet to make it to the finals. Nothing wrong about being a fan, but get off your horse Denver til you can prove us otherwise. I don't like the Denver Nuggets or the Lakers, I would love to see the Jazz kick both of those team's trash, but I've been disappointed since the Jazz went 1-4 over Denver and so far are 1-2 over the Lakers. :( You give me a hard time for not ragging on them when the Jazz had their 9 game winning steak. But what about you? You call yourself a Jazz fan where have you been when the Jazz have been playing so hot? It seems you ONLY comment on here after I do. :shrug:
Yes I do give Jazz credit for them winning what 17 of there last 20 games? That's really good. Not good enough to pass Denver. It seems when ever they get close they choke. At least that's been the case for the pass two season.

But whatever I thought this thread has been boring as of late so I thought I would stir the pot a bit. It's all just good fun sports trash talk.

I kinda agree... sports trash talk is just trash... its not like where we chose to rest our asses and watch whatever teams actually has any bearing on the games.

And it's WAY safer to talk trash about sports than about politics.. I'm glad you stirred the pot.. there WAS mold growing on top of it.

[SLC Projects]

Who's we?

:previous:
I think he was talking about the Denver Bronco winning championships in 1997 and 1998.

Salt Lake has two championships also, just in different sports.
( Utah Stars ABA champions 1971 )
( Real Salt Lake MLS Cup Champions 2009 ) for those who follow soccer. :haha:

[atlas400]

Salt Lake has two championships also, just in different sports lol in that case denver also has 2 more in NHL .. so that 4 .. either way LMAO.. You are a funny dude hahahahahahahahaI'm talking about Denver, and how I thought it was funny how people thought the broncos would make it all the way, It also Funny how salt lake city doesnt have and NFL team hahaha... Y even bring that up than if this is an nba thread. so why even say something like that bout the Broncos... you started it.... You are just jelous in my opinion

[scottharding]

This is the final piece for the Mavericks. They have an all-star lineup

1 Jason Kidd
2 Caron Butler
3 Shawn Marion
4 Dirk
5 Brendon Haywood

Coming off the bench with Jason Terry, Dampier, Stevenson, and a few other good role players.

They just beat the Lakers tonight without Butler, a 20 ppg player. They're going to be very, very tough.

The Western playoffs are going to be GREAT, even in the first round.

I have to disagree. Butler was a 20ppg player in washington, yes, but he won't be in Dallas. He'll get less touches. Dallas also plays a substantially different system than washington. Just bringing in a player that has averaged many points with a particular team doesn't make them better.
Again, I point out Richard Jefferson. He was great in NJ. But he did little to help Milwaukee, and has actually weakened San Antonio, because he corrupts their system. Bad trade. Now I don't think Butler will hurt the Mavs, but I don't think he improves them much either.
Either way, yes Dallas has a very talanted starting five. I think though, that it is still inferior to the starting fives of Denver, Utah, LA, and perhaps even Oklahoma City. Kidd is one of the best point guards of the last decade, but he's been passed up by Billups, Williams and Westbrook. All three of those guards dominate him. Dirk is an amazing player, but he is not a pure Power Forward. Therefore, the front courts of LA, Denver, and Utah are far stronger than Dallas. Dallas also doesn't have an x factor player like Andrei Kirilenko, the Birdman, or Odom, a player who can change the whole course of the game without scoring.
But you're right, the Western Playoffs are gonna be awesome, and I'm certainly not going to underestimate Dallas. They're a good team, and can beat anyone if they get hot enough. I'm just saying that one of these other teams doesn't underestimate them, brings their A-game, and has a seven game playoff series to do it, or several weeks as the season closes out, they should be able to grind out Dallas.

[SLC Projects]

lol in that case denver also has 2 more in NHL .. so that 4 .. either way LMAO.. You are a funny dude hahahahahahahaha It also Funny how salt lake city doesnt have and NFL team hahaha... Y even bring that up than if this is an nba thread. so why even say something like that bout the Broncos... you started it.... You are just jelous in my opinion

:previous: I do believe you were the one who started the whole "Broncos have two championships and you don't have a team" debate. I think it's funny how fired up you got just because I said "Denver Nuggets got lucky" And I just pointed out what another forumer saying earlier about the Bronco going all the way. Because we all know what happen to the Broncos after that. :haha:
My opinion is your just trying to bring up the lame argument of Salt Lake not even having a NFL team. Wow great comeback. :koko: I have NO reason to be jealous ( "jealous" has a "a" in it by the way. ) since the few teams that we do have ( for the most part ) are better then the teams in Denver.

Collage Football


Teams
Colorado Buffaloes Bowl Scoreboard (Won 12, Lost 15) wow
Utah Utes Bowl Scoreboard (won 12, Lost 4) :tup:
Colorado State Rams "I can't even rmember the last time those guys have been to a bowl game.
Air Force Falcons (Won 9 Lost 10 with 1 Tie)

Point is the Utah Utes has the far best Bowl record then any other team.


MLS

Teams
Real Salt Lake Championship 1
Colorado Rapids Championship 0

RSL has the Rocky Mountain Cup 3 out the 5 years.

I would bring up even more points, but right now my wife is kicking me off the computer. :haha:

[cadetwhite]

Denver: Colorado Rockies 2007 National League Champions (Soon to be 2010 World Champions)

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f313/riswhite/135238_rockies_angels_baseball.jpg

Salt Lake City: --

[Your Boy Blue]

I have NO reason to be jealous ( "jealous" has a "a" in it by the way. )

I read these forums regularly, and I think it is funny that you of all people would correct someone else's spelling. Especially since you have multiple spelling and grammer errors in the same paragraph that you corrected his spelling. That's funny shit. ha ha

[scottharding]

This whole dick-measuring contest between SLC and Denver is really annoying.

[atlas400]

lol this shit is funny .... but it wasnt realy me who started it was kinda you. cuz u brought up the broncos and all that shit bout the Jazz having two NBA finals..... and i did not get fired up but if thats what you think go ahead it fine.... lol you brought up the MLS thing again hahaha. why dont you put something like
Colorado Avalanche 2 championships
Utah 0 or Denver Broncos 2 Championships
Utah 0
But what ever Who cares now.. Back on topic i guess..... The Nuggets and Jazz are both playing Great so far. lol

Plus You cant really compare Denver with Salt Lake City... Because the only thing in common they have is that both have an NBA team and MLS team.. And Denver has a professional team on every major sport.. Utah doesn't.

[blm3034L!fe]

lol this shit is funny .... but it wasnt realy me who started it was kinda you. cuz u brought up the broncos and all that shit bout the Jazz having two NBA finals..... and i did not get fired up but if thats what you think go ahead it fine.... lol you brought up the MLS thing again hahaha. why dont you put something like
Colorado Avalanche 2 championships
Utah 0 or Denver Broncos 2 Championships
Utah 0
But what ever Who cares now.. Back on topic i guess..... The Nuggets and Jazz are both playing Great so far. lol

Plus You cant really compare Denver with Salt Lake City... Because the only thing in common they have is that both have an NBA team and MLS team.. And Denver has a professional team on every major sport.. Utah doesn't.

You are CORRECT!

Anyhow I think it will be exciting to see how the Spazz and Thuggets end up this regular Season, there is only 1 game difference right now, Nuggs have become lazy when they should be killing it. And Jazz have put everything they have into every game and closed the gap between the two teams. Denva plays LA Tonight. I hope we stomp them again! Right now with the Spazz on our heals we need every win we can get!!!

[SLC4L]

Denver: Colorado Rockies 2007 National League Champions (Soon to be 2010 World Champions)

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f313/riswhite/135238_rockies_angels_baseball.jpg

Salt Lake City: --

Ah, that was a good World Series; watching the Red Sox sweep the Rockies.

Anywho, let's review the following quote...

This whole dick-measuring contest between SLC and Denver is really annoying.

I was thinking the same thing scott... too many egos clashing here. Face it folks, the Nuggets are good and the Jazz are good.

[CONative]

:previous: I do believe you were the one who started the whole "Broncos have two championships and you don't have a team" debate. I think it's funny how fired up you got just because I said "Denver Nuggets got lucky" And I just pointed out what another forumer saying earlier about the Bronco going all the way. Because we all know what happen to the Broncos after that. :haha:
My opinion is your just trying to bring up the lame argument of Salt Lake not even having a NFL team. Wow great comeback. :koko: I have NO reason to be jealous ( "jealous" has a "a" in it by the way. ) since the few teams that we do have ( more the most part ) are better then the teams in Denver.

Collage Football


Teams
Colorado Buffaloes Bowl Scoreboard (Won 12, Lost 15) wow
Utah Utes Bowl Scoreboard (won 12, Lost 4) :tup:
Colorado State Rams "I can't even rmember the last time those guys have been to a bowl game.
Air Force Falcons (Won 9 Lost 10 with 1 Tie)

Point is the Utah Utes has the far best Bowl record then any other team.


MLS

Teams
Real Salt Lake Championship 1
Colorado Rapids Championship 0

RSL has the Rocky Mountain Cup 3 out the 5 years.

I would bring up even more points, but right now my wife is kicking me off the computer. :haha:


Other than the last 5 years or so, Colorado has been in a lot harder bowl games than Utah has since it is in the more difficult Big 12 (and notice how Colorado has actually made it to a lot more bowl games!). Colorado State HAS been in several bowls in the past 15 years (4 since year 2000 and including some more difficult bowl games like the Holiday Bowl). CSU also kicks Utah/BYU's butt in Volleyball almost every year. It's not all about Football.

Colorado has also won several National NCAA D1 championships in Cross Country and several more National Ski Championships than Utah (University of Denver happens to have the most championships). CU has consistently been in the top 20 of the Directors Cup for many years -- which rates all D1 schools based on the success of ALL sports (CU is currently 43rd this year and Utah is 100th). Let's not forget that CU also won the NATIONAL FOOTBALL D1 CHAMPIONSHIP IN 1990.

Not to mention, Denver has also won the national championship for the professional National Lacrosse League and the Arena Football League.

Just clearing the thin air we have in Utah/Colorado :) ..and to also reiterate that both NBA teams are good right now and all of our Mountain West colleges are basically good athletic schools too.

[SLC Projects]

Good luck to both teams from here on out. I have a feeling is going to be a close one.

[enjo13]

If we're counting the MLS do we get to account our Arena Football and Major League lacrosse championships?

[SLC4L]

:previous:

This is the Mountain West NBA Thread, not sports in general, ergo, no it does not. All accounts of any other team besides and NBA team in the Mountain West winning a champion is invalid and will be erased from the records.

[atlas400]

Yes the Nuggets win and Jazz lose tonight . Pretty good day ;-)

[scottharding]

Yeah, Jazz drop one that should have taken easy. And Dallas is on a six-game win streak. Looks like I may have to prepare to eat my words here regarding their trade. But I'm gonna stand by it 'til I have to.

[TonyAnderson]

I have to disagree. Butler was a 20ppg player in washington, yes, but he won't be in Dallas. He'll get less touches. Dallas also plays a substantially different system than washington. Just bringing in a player that has averaged many points with a particular team doesn't make them better.
Again, I point out Richard Jefferson. He was great in NJ. But he did little to help Milwaukee, and has actually weakened San Antonio, because he corrupts their system. Bad trade. Now I don't think Butler will hurt the Mavs, but I don't think he improves them much either.
Either way, yes Dallas has a very talanted starting five. I think though, that it is still inferior to the starting fives of Denver, Utah, LA, and perhaps even Oklahoma City. Kidd is one of the best point guards of the last decade, but he's been passed up by Billups, Williams and Westbrook. All three of those guards dominate him. Dirk is an amazing player, but he is not a pure Power Forward. Therefore, the front courts of LA, Denver, and Utah are far stronger than Dallas. Dallas also doesn't have an x factor player like Andrei Kirilenko, the Birdman, or Odom, a player who can change the whole course of the game without scoring.
But you're right, the Western Playoffs are gonna be awesome, and I'm certainly not going to underestimate Dallas. They're a good team, and can beat anyone if they get hot enough. I'm just saying that one of these other teams doesn't underestimate them, brings their A-game, and has a seven game playoff series to do it, or several weeks as the season closes out, they should be able to grind out Dallas.

Well they basically lost Josh Howard, who was playing the same role as Shawn Marion, and added Caron Butler, who fits in at a position they needed. I think he'll be a great benefit because of that, and because it also helps other players on the team play their true positions. They just beat the Hawks at Atlanta last night; without Butler again. I think Kidd is rejuvenated after this trade.

I could possibly see Denver overtaking them for the 2, but not the Jazz. I see the Jazz at 4 and slightly inferior to those top 3 teams.

[TonyAnderson]

lol this shit is funny .... but it wasnt realy me who started it was kinda you. cuz u brought up the broncos and all that shit bout the Jazz having two NBA finals..... and i did not get fired up but if thats what you think go ahead it fine.... lol you brought up the MLS thing again hahaha. why dont you put something like
Colorado Avalanche 2 championships
Utah 0 or Denver Broncos 2 Championships
Utah 0
But what ever Who cares now.. Back on topic i guess..... The Nuggets and Jazz are both playing Great so far. lol

Plus You cant really compare Denver with Salt Lake City... Because the only thing in common they have is that both have an NBA team and MLS team.. And Denver has a professional team on every major sport.. Utah doesn't.


Montreal Canadians: 24 Stanley Cups
Avalanche: 2

Man, you guys are pathetic. Might as well just let Canada annex you.

[scottharding]

Well they basically lost Josh Howard, who was playing the same role as Shawn Marion, and added Caron Butler, who fits in at a position they needed. I think he'll be a great benefit because of that, and because it also helps other players on the team play their true positions. They just beat the Hawks at Atlanta last night; without Butler again. I think Kidd is rejuvenated after this trade.

I could possibly see Denver overtaking them for the 2, but not the Jazz. I see the Jazz at 4 and slightly inferior to those top 3 teams.

Kidd has definately found something lately. That's true. And while it appears Dallas has stepped it up, I don't think the Jazz are inferior to them. I still think the Jazz could lock up the three spot. So could Dallas. It's gonna come down to which team gels the best during this final stretch. I do think Denver is gonna stay ahead of both teams though. I'd say seed 1 and 2 are set in the West.

[blm3034L!fe]

Montreal Canadians: 24 Stanley Cups
Avalanche: 2

Man, you guys are pathetic. Might as well just let Canada annex you.

Hey what is in Logan Ut??? Oh that's right NOTHING!!!

So the Spazz lost last night and the Nuggs pulled out an ugly win. Alot of people don't like K-Mart, personally I think he is Great! And the Nuggets need him right now... I hope he returns soon... I didn't hear what type of injury he has but hopefully nothing too serious. :(

[Giovoni]

Montreal Canadians: 24 Stanley Cups
Avalanche: 2

Man, you guys are pathetic. Might as well just let Canada annex you.

I'd be all for that if they left El Paso cnty behind

[TonyAnderson]

Hey what is in Logan Ut???


A University, a couple of companies, and too much focus on the vehicle.

What's in that suburb you live in BLM?

[blm3034L!fe]

WOW Things are getting pretty tight in the Western Conference Division especially for the top 5 Teams. Although IMHO Denver has a very strong record against all in the top five. Denver has only lost 1 Game out of 4 to both LA and Utah. and Dallas has been a sweep so far this season! I really like our chances in the playoffs. But one thing is for sure, it will not be an easy run this year, eveyone is playing Strong right now! :yes:

[scottharding]

Yeah, that's the thruth BLM. What a season. I think seeds 1-4 could go to any of the teams currently there in any order. The Mavericks have been surprising, but you're point is good. Denver has been best when they play these top teams. If anyone can dethrone the Lakers, they can.
I hope the Jazz can put up a good fight too. I'd love to see the Lakers go down before the western conference finals, and the way they've been playing lately, it's quite possible.

[TonyAnderson]

Kenyon Martin remains a question mark though, and Denver needs him I think.

Jazz are playing great. Finally beating the teams they should. Their roles players are underestimated - Miles, Korver, Millsap, etc. You know what Deron and Boozer can do, but when Okur is on as well, they're tough to beat.

[scottharding]

The Jazz have caught Denver tonight. Both teams are now even in the win/loss column, and tied for the Division title and the 3rd seed. Denver holds the tie breaker, but Utah has an easier schedule the rest of the way. Both teams sit a half game behind Dallas.
I've learned my lesson this year. I'm not gonna make any predictions. It's still anybody's race, but it's good to see the Jazz take advantage while Denver slides a bit.
Denver and Dallas will face each other next week too. What a game that should be.

[TonyAnderson]

:tup:

Nugget's schedule is tougher, but stretches like this for the Jazz are coming up.

@ Houston
@ New Orleans
@ Golden State

All winnable, but all tough.

[CPVLIVE]

The Jazz have caught Denver tonight. Both teams are now even in the win/loss column, and tied for the Division title and the 3rd seed. Denver holds the tie breaker, but Utah has an easier schedule the rest of the way. Both teams sit a half game behind Dallas.
I've learned my lesson this year. I'm not gonna make any predictions. It's still anybody's race, but it's good to see the Jazz take advantage while Denver slides a bit.
Denver and Dallas will face each other next week too. What a game that should be.

I could be wrong but I don't see Denver being much of a factor from here on out. The Kenyon Martin injury hurt, but was manageable. The loss of Karl though, is turning out to be the back-breaker. I never have liked Karl much, but without him Denver is lost. Dantley is really clueless and the team seems to have lost any fire and is just going through the motions. The organization has declared Karl will be back in time for the playoffs, but that's looking like wishful thinking considering Karls recent rush to the emergency room with severe blood clots in his legs and lungs and his apparent inablility to communicate whatsoever. That doesn't sound like a man looking to return to NBA coaching any time soon if at all. Dallas will more than likely crush Denver on Monday. That will be the final game of a five game road trip for Denver that included two back to back games. After playing Orlando on Sunday I doubt Denver will give Dallas much of a game.

[blm3034L!fe]

The Spazz have really been playing well, the Thuggetz are struggling a little bit with K-Mart out and the rookie Lawson missing is hurting the bench rotation and overall points being scored. I'm not to worried about Denver come Playoff time. Dallas is looking pretty sharp too, but LA is simply a beast and especially in the Playoffs. This is an exciting Season that's for sure.

[SnyderBock]

The only difference between LA and Denver, is LA actually wins the gimme games. Dallas has become far over-rated, because of their win streak they had. OKC is more dangerous than Dallas or Jazz, but will not be able to play properly come playoff time, because of lack of experience. Utah is most dangerous, but will tire over a playoff series, as will Dallas. If Denver gets Kenyon and Karl back as currently planned and LA doesn't get Bynum back, I don't see how the Lakers can get past Denver.