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mr.x
Apr 1, 2009, 4:30 AM
I'm still at odds at why the AUS is responsible for such a large event, and why other faculties haven't pitched in. This isn't just an AUS event, it's much more than that: a UBC event.



AUS fails to resurrect Arts County Fair
Ill conceived revival attempt shot down by UBC Classroom Services, RCMP

by Katarina Grgić
News Staff

Friday, March 27th, 2009

The AUS’s attempt to revive Arts County Fair (ACF) is cancelled. Despite the AUS’s effort and planning, the event was denied approval by UBC Classroom Ser­vices and the RCMP.

The event was meant to be a revival of the original ACF, which ran from 1992 until its cancellation in 2007 due to accumulating debts. The event was to be held on Main Mall between the Flag Pole Plaza and Neil Wyman Plaza on April 3, 2009. As the event’s plans and promotions were being arranged, the planning team, led by AUS Councillor Mike Kushnir, worked in attempting to secure a soft agreement with all relevant parties, including Classroom Services and the RCMP.

Throughout the planning process, the AUS was careful to tailor its plans according to the advice of Capt. Bill Douglas of Vancouver Fire and Rescue Services (VFRS) in order to gain approval. A similar meeting took place with the RCMP’s Sgt. Dan Wendland.

According to Kushnir, who is a founding member of the Radi­cal Beer Faction, Classroom Ser­vices rejected the AUS’s request to reserve the venue on Main Mall after they heard numerous concerns raised by internal par­ties at UBC.

After appealing Classroom Services’s decision, the AUS was finally granted a meeting with the director of Classroom Services, Justin Marples, whom Kushnir claims was rude and unwilling to work with them. On March 13, the AUS was notified by Classroom Services that the request for the Main Mall venue was denied by RCMP’s Univer­sity Detachment.

“I was shocked at the deci­sion,” said Kushnir. He felt confident that the handshake agreement exchanged between Sgt. Wendland and himself was confirmation of the RCMP’s support. When the RCMP de­livered their decision, Kushnir said he felt “betrayed.”

The RCMP has said that it was simply impossible for them to grant a Special Operation Licence, as UBC refused to put forward the money to pay for the supplementary police re­sources required to cover the event.

“We couldn’t get UBC Trea­sury to accept the initial paying of the costs, so there was no way we could go ahead with it,” said Wendland, estimating that he would have needed around $5000 for the additional re­sources. He speculated that be­cause Block Party, an AMS-run concert, is set to take on April 8, UBC had little reason to ap­prove an additional concert.

Ryan Corbett, former produc­tion manager of ACF, said that the time frame was too short to plan the new event—only six weeks, in contrast with prepa­ration of old ACFs which began months in advance. “In my mind, either the plan was too ambitious or disregarded the necessary steps, hurdles and checks that need to be accom­modated for in order to host an event on campus, especially given that it was an outdoor event near the end of the term,” he said.

“We were prepared to work with everyone,” said Kushnir. “This is a classic example of the war on fun.”

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zivan56
Apr 1, 2009, 5:05 AM
You need to pay/convince the police to let you host an event? What is this, rural China/Eastern Europe?
Why would the police need to be there unless something actually happens?

fever
Apr 1, 2009, 6:07 AM
You need permission to sell alcohol. The police also have to keep a close eye on the road closure pylons, at least as far as I can tell.

zivan56
Apr 1, 2009, 6:24 AM
^^ I thought that was permission from the provincial govt, and not the police. "Policing" by managing traffic is a waste of time and resources, why can't they hire/find a volunteer to direct traffic like schools do?
Again, no need for the police to be involved in any of this unless there is a problem.

AlexYVR
Apr 1, 2009, 7:06 AM
all of this makes sense unless you actually have been to an ACF in which case you know why police need to be involved. There are minors only areas to be policed as well as traffic to be directed, not to mention the multiple sexual assault complaints which are brought forward literally every fair. Last one (or two ago - it's been a while), someone threw a glass bottle and a wrench (I believe?) at Matt Good Band on stage?

djmk
Apr 1, 2009, 9:46 PM
oh ya, the police are needed.

i went to every ACF from 1995 to 2003 and every time i was drunk by noon, puking by one, fighting by two, totally passed out and pissed on by five pm.

it seemed 54-40 was there every year but when the tea party came, that was awesome. kids these days are lame. not enough beer in their diet

vanlaw
Apr 1, 2009, 9:52 PM
oh ya, the police are needed.

i went to every ACF from 1995 to 2003 and every time i want drunk by noon, puking by one, fighting by two, totally passed out and pissed on by five pm.

it seemed 54-40 was there every year but when the tea party came, that was awesome. kids these days are lame. not enough beer in their diet

that pretty much sums up my experiences as well, minus getting pissed on :). Was a great event, too bad the kids these days cant handle their beer :cheers:

djmk
Apr 1, 2009, 10:00 PM
i love how by mid-day, people just gave up on the porto-potties and just went piss up against the fence. boy/girls, it did not matter.

dreambrother808
Apr 1, 2009, 11:31 PM
Meh, ACF is relatively harmless. Of course, back in the mid-90s when i was a UBC student, we tended to brew a rather large batch of mushroom tea for the event so who knows what was really going on. :haha:

It's just sad to think current students can't enjoy that same kind of tension-unleashing, end-of-year bacchanalia.

zivan56
Apr 1, 2009, 11:59 PM
i love how by mid-day, people just gave up on the porto-potties and just went piss up against the fence. boy/girls, it did not matter.

That is nothing. When I was at Belgrade Beer fest this year, there were around 60 and there were still huge lines to use them. The solution? All the guys lined up against 2-3 trucks and went there...the owners of the trucks must have been pretty "pissed" the following day :D
Some guy tried to piss beside the police van, and the police told him to go by the truck, lol.
There was also an empty field where you could pass out if you were too drunk to stand near the concert stage.
I didn't see any fights, with at least 50,000 people there the night I went. There probably were, but nothing serious.

Well we sure can't have this in Vancouver, it would be too much fun to handle.