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sparky212
Jan 2, 2009, 3:41 AM
I figured that in all the skyline threads out ther the pics are mostley of the biggest cities in canada so I started a thread for cities under 500k.

Rico Rommheim
Jan 2, 2009, 3:44 AM
Regina, Saskatchewan
http://pws.byu.edu/tree_tour/images/tree116small.jpg

Kingston, Ontario
http://www.tlacanada.com/-%20Home%20JPEG/House%20fr%20SW%203%20Dec%206,%202006%20small.JPG

sparky212
Jan 2, 2009, 3:51 AM
:haha::jester: :previous:

Metro-One
Jan 2, 2009, 3:51 AM
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sparky212
Jan 2, 2009, 4:04 AM
Verry Nice

1ajs
Jan 2, 2009, 4:09 AM
regina sk
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3134/2841736159_7ac1de8c13_o.jpg
shot by: Troy Boucher Photography (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tcboucherphotography/)
source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tcboucherphotography/2841736159/

saskatoon
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3203/3087105861_1e8dc0cf27_b.jpg
photo by: Tom™5 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomtheman5/)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomtheman5/3087105861/sizes/o/


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3170/2928479010_939b1922bd_b.jpg
photo by knobberhead (http://www.flickr.com/photos/knobberhead/)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/knobberhead/2928479010/

boden
Jan 2, 2009, 4:23 AM
Peterborough: Pop. CMA 116,000

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1423/1065676425_912b5f4c50_o.jpg

Kingston, Pop. CMA 152,000

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2193/2125614449_a374d64663_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2064/2125614163_4e32ffe180_o.jpg

Belleville, Pop. CMA 91,500

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/141/361191546_eb047a3449_o.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1398/1077619766_9fab7a4df0_o.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1330/1323112881_2b581fa84c_o.jpghttp://farm2.static.flickr.com/1235/1323141195_8bf2563c04_o.jpg

sparky212
Jan 2, 2009, 4:28 AM
belleville looks really good for a city under 100k:tup:

Metro-One
Jan 2, 2009, 4:43 AM
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Nicko999
Jan 2, 2009, 4:45 AM
The king of skyline for a small city is Yellowknife(pop: 18 700)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Downtown_Yellowknife_2.jpg/800px-Downtown_Yellowknife_2.jpg

Metro-One
Jan 2, 2009, 4:47 AM
:previous: I love the fact that we have a skyline that far north and in the middle of no where, it awesome, i hope they add more!

someone123
Jan 2, 2009, 4:49 AM
Here's a Halifax panorama taken by me a couple of years ago (I need to fix this and retake the photos sometime...):

http://www.pbase.com/halifaxphoto/image/66859751/original.jpg

scroll--->

boden
Jan 2, 2009, 5:08 AM
Great pan of Halifax.:tup:

sparky212
Jan 2, 2009, 5:23 AM
great pano.on a nother note london has one of the best skylines for a city it's size

Cambridgite
Jan 2, 2009, 6:01 AM
Okay, the Region of Waterloo is a good bit over 500,000, but the CMA in 2006 was less than 500,000, so here goes:

The City of Kitchener proper has about 220,000 people.

Downtown Kitchener from the west:

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb210/Cambridgite/City%20Centre%20District/Picture024-3.jpg

Downtown Kitchener from the east:

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb210/Cambridgite/City%20Centre%20District/Picture190.jpg

The City of Waterloo has about 120,000 people.

Uptown Waterloo from the west:

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb210/Cambridgite/Picture036.jpg

Uptown Waterloo from the north:

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb210/Cambridgite/Picture247-1.jpg

The City of Cambridge has about 125,000 people.

Downtown Galt (Cambridge) skyline from the south (big, ain't it?!)

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb210/Cambridgite/Galt/Picture145.jpg

Metro-One
Jan 2, 2009, 6:02 AM
:previous: So far they are the weakest skylines yet they have the largest populations (together).

Cambridgite
Jan 2, 2009, 6:05 AM
:previous: So far they are the weakest skylines yet they have the largest populations (save Halifax).

Nope, I think Kitchener has Peterborough and maybe even Yellowknife beaten. ;)

Rico Rommheim
Jan 2, 2009, 6:12 AM
Westmount, Quebec ~25,000

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/2962865578_41f5908b29.jpg?v=0
by AX

http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif
by All about Eve

1ajs
Jan 2, 2009, 6:13 AM
Westmount, Quebec ~25,000

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/2962865578_41f5908b29.jpg?v=0
by AX

http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif
by All about Eve
WOW...

1ajs
Jan 2, 2009, 6:15 AM
hey thats a part of montreal

Rico Rommheim
Jan 2, 2009, 6:22 AM
Nope. Westmount is an enclave, its an independent city.

Metro-One
Jan 2, 2009, 6:44 AM
Nope, I think Kitchener has Peterborough and maybe even Yellowknife beaten.


Well Yellowknife does have a population under 20 000, and Kitchener is nearly double Peterborough. For a 500 000 CMA is is pretty lame. They must have one of the, if not the lowest tower per capita ratio of any greater area over 100 000 in Canada. And don't take this as a negative spin on the whole area, just in the aspect of urban density.

aastra
Jan 2, 2009, 6:50 AM
Victoria, BC (population: 78,000*)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1095/1440532037_88924f8188.jpg
Picture by the Great Scaper
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55063726@N00/1440532037/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3253/3034136020_63691c83fe.jpg
Picture by the Great Scaper
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55063726@N00/3034136020/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3185/3021758904_5cc22bbf04.jpg
Picture by the Great Scaper
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55063726@N00/3021758904/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2347/1528432771_6cf35670f6.jpg
Picture by the Great Scaper
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55063726@N00/1528432771/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3015/2538560576_5af87fb41e.jpg
Picture by the Great Scaper
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55063726@N00/2538560576/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3038/2538561680_d21ece160f.jpg
Picture by the Great Scaper
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55063726@N00/2538561680/

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1294/1334171889_e5de658677.jpg
Picture by the Great Scaper
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55063726@N00/1334171889/

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1088/1070297628_f96d0ec85a.jpg
Picture by the Great Scaper
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55063726@N00/1070297628/

*city proper only, of course

Phil McAvity
Jan 2, 2009, 7:52 AM
Aastra, Victoria's metro population of ~350,000 would have qualified it for this thread anyway.

I don't think Burnaby should qualify though since it is part of greater Vancouver.

Of all the cities i've been to under 500,000 people, i'd say this city has the most impressive skyline in Canada:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/22/32143307_9c61fc704b_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2264/2418120464_eb38d9afbc_b.jpg

http://www.reginadowntown.ca/images/regina_skyline.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/161/357565126_db053fb0c7_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2099/1966971101_5a77e37a8e_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1132/1023459480_3d969d50ee_o.jpg

http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/80/222279987_964e93808c_o.jpg


Still not sure?






Welcome to Regina.

Population?

Around 200,000.


P.S.-great topic sparky!

Metro-One
Jan 2, 2009, 8:03 AM
I have always enjoyed Regina (no pun!)

Also of course Burnaby should count, any city under 500 000. the same as allowing Westmount to count. Because if you dont count Burnaby (which is not in vancouver city itself) then where exactly would you draw the line? Does Richmond count? Does Surrey count? What about Abbotsford? It has to be an all of nothing based on city boundaries, if not you have to many gray areas. Metrotown is no where near downtown Vancouver, it is an independent skyline in a city with a different government, so yes, it should count.

Phil McAvity
Jan 2, 2009, 8:32 AM
I have always enjoyed Regina (no pun!)

Also of course Burnaby should count, any city under 500 000. the same as allowing Westmount to count. Because if you dont count Burnaby (which is not in vancouver city itself) then where exactly would you draw the line? Does Richmond count? Does Surrey count? What about Abbotsford? It has to be an all of nothing based on city boundaries, if not you have to many gray areas. Metrotown is no where near downtown Vancouver, it is an independent skyline in a city with a different government, so yes, it should count.

As I said, Burnaby is part of greater Vancouver. I remember reading years ago that suburbs were included in a city's metro population if at least half the working population of that suburb commute to the city to work so I totally disagree that Burnaby's skyline should be included because a significant number of the people that live in those residential highrises that make up the Burnaby skyline commute to Vancouver on a regular, if not daily basis. Their proximity to skytrain is one of the things that makes living in Burnaby so attractive. I think you can rule out any suburb on that basis.

To make things easier I have compiled a list of the 10 largest cities that qualify using that criterion and the 2006 Canadian census stats:

London Ontario 457,720
Kitchener Ontario 451,235
St. Catharines Ontario 390,317
Halifax Nova Scotia 372,858
Oshawa Ontario 330,594
Victoria British Columbia 330,088
Windsor Ontario 323,342
Saskatoon Saskatchewan 233,923
Regina Saskatchewan 194,971
Sherbrooke Quebec 186,952

Metro-One
Jan 2, 2009, 8:44 AM
:previous: Why are some people such bossy bodies? Are you the thread police. As i see it any city with a population under 500 000 counts, and Burnaby is. Vancouver is not. the thread title is not "Great Canadian skyline thread for cities 500 000 and under THAT ARE NOT PART OF A METRO." As i said, it will become gray. Abbotsford is the perfect example, it is under 500 000, but it is not technically in the GVRD, but it is on the border and talks have been in the works for it to become part of the GVRD. So what would you say to posting pics of Abbotsford, technically it is its own metro-area but in reality it is becoming part of the GVRD. This is the gray area you don't seem to realize. Look at southern Ontario for example, if Hamilton were under 500 000 and its skyline were posted some would argue that it is a suburb or Toronto.

To keep it simple stupid it should be any municipality under 500 000 people in its borders counts.

If Montreal has suburban skylines post them, i want to see them. Same for Toronto's suburban skylines that are outside of Toronto proper.

Your list is funny as well because you are not the one who started this thread in the first place. I think it is up to sparky212 to decide what goes and what doesn't.

Nouvellecosse
Jan 2, 2009, 9:43 AM
Aastra, Victoria's metro population of ~350,000 would have qualified it for this thread anyway.

I don't think Burnaby should qualify though since it is part of greater Vancouver.

Of all the cities i've been to under 500,000 people, i'd say this city has the most impressive skyline in Canada

Still not sure?

Welcome to Regina.

Population?

Around 200,000.
Definitely impressive, but I think Hfx holds its own pretty well. Especially considering there are highrises all across the metro area (although I admit it has a larger population.)
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/8346/69panohalifax53ri.jpg


This aerial is over 25 yrs old, but it's the only decent aerial I could find (although still leaves out many highrises).

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1774/map2cropped4vp.jpg

someone123
Jan 2, 2009, 9:54 AM
Here's a much newer aerial of Halifax from Wintorbos (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26266017@N00/) (yes, Andy6 on SSP) on Flickr:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3248/2683922122_0596a328f5_o.jpg

It's really large so requires scrolling. It's hard to find an aerial that captures all of the city because it is very spread out.

1ajs
Jan 2, 2009, 10:11 AM
s123 u know wintorbos is andy6 right?

koops65
Jan 2, 2009, 1:49 PM
Here is a pic of downtown Kitchener taken by me last July:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3087/2663589273_e3114278f0_b.jpg

For a city of 220 000 this view makes it seem on par with other similar sized cities. For those of you who are under the impression that this is a huge city, CMA of 450 000 to 500 000, those are the right numbers, but it's 3 different cities, Kitchener, Waterloo and Cambridge (which is itself 3 different cites joined together), so it isn't all one city with a big, tall downtown core. The highrises are very spread out. That being said, it is also true that Waterloo Region is lacking in the height department, and needs more, taller, highrises to bring it into the next tier of big cities.

Hootch
Jan 2, 2009, 3:52 PM
Westmount, Quebec ~25,000

Isn't that the English neighborhood in Montréal?

But who cares? People have been showing North Vancouver and Burnaby, why not Montréal

harls
Jan 2, 2009, 3:57 PM
Gatineau, Quebec (pop ~260,000)

Click for big.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2341/2528820606_266f45afc1_b.jpg (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2341/2528820606_004bbeb10a_o.jpg)

(pic - me)

MolsonExport
Jan 2, 2009, 5:05 PM
Isn't that the English neighborhood in Montréal?

But who cares? People have been showing North Vancouver and Burnaby, why not Montréal

with the exception of a few short years following forced municipal mergers (rendered moot with the demerger), Westmount was and is an independent city. It is still predominately English-speaking, but today almost all speak French fluently.

MolsonExport
Jan 2, 2009, 5:06 PM
Gatineau, Quebec (pop ~260,000)

Click for big.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2341/2528820606_266f45afc1_b.jpg (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2341/2528820606_004bbeb10a_o.jpg)

(pic - me)


^Manly will tell you that since it is part of the Ottawa metro, it is inelligible for inclusion in this thread.

Dmajackson
Jan 2, 2009, 5:15 PM
Heres some that I've taken recently of the Halifax area;

From the North-End looking towards Spring Garden Road:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3133/3100383059_a1a4f1f85f_b.jpg

Downtown Halifax (Former City ~ 100'000):
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3217/3099135838_2c9ec62a28_b.jpg

Dartmouth (Former City ~ 100'000):
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3233/3099135292_7c66f6e52a_b.jpg

flar
Jan 2, 2009, 5:18 PM
Since we're doing suburbs, Hamilton's suburbs:

Dundas (25,000) from Dundas Peak:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/ancaster_dundas_stone/00098.jpg

Burlington (150,000) as seen from Hamilton Beach:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/beach/00060.jpg

Stoney Creek (60,000) as seen from Stoney Creek Mountain:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/stoneycreek/00100.jpg

Dmajackson
Jan 2, 2009, 5:47 PM
I forgot these for the Halifax suburbs (Aall taken by me);

Bedford (Former Town ~ 20'000)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2131/2437893182_5203f89531_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3016/2425749061_52b3c3e147_b.jpg

And the only other comparable suburb is Lower Sackville (Former ~ 20'000)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3158/2997477480_6618c4cff1_b.jpg

And well since I have one heres the Downtown Halifax Skyline at Sunset (Purdy's to Westin):
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3047/3087703691_92a4fa52f2_b.jpg

softee
Jan 2, 2009, 6:03 PM
North Bay, Ontario: Population 54,000

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y142/Softee2/tmpphp6xJ2I1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y142/Softee2/tmpphpvA3e4d.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y142/Softee2/March30th2007001resized.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y142/Softee2/NBonX-MasDayg7.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y142/Softee2/June18th2007023resized.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y142/Softee2/tmpphpDhcDN1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y142/Softee2/tmpphpsdqVnh.jpg

Nicko999
Jan 2, 2009, 6:50 PM
Laval (Montreal suburb): pop 368,709

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1112/1123381795_d4f2d344d0.jpg

flar
Jan 2, 2009, 7:03 PM
Sarnia, Ontario
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/porthuron/00213.jpg

vid
Jan 2, 2009, 7:09 PM
Fort William/Port Arthur/Thunder Bay/Lakehead, 103,000 to 131,000 depending on how and what you count.

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1169/downtownrz0.jpg
Port Arthur, 46,000 © rocket1964

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/3280/fortwilliamhioriginaljx2.jpg
Fort William, 50,000 © rocket1964

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/67/162132507_24ae3a34c5_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/geekent/162132507/)
Current River, 4,000 © Geekent (http://www.flickr.com/photos/geekent/)

Academy Heights/Lakehead University and College Heights, neighbourhoods of Port Arthur, also have skylines (2 or more tall buildings near each other) but there are no real vantage points for them so I don't have any pictures.

Kenora, 15,000:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3232/3119783211_ed0664658f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/27362978@N04/3119783211/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3115/3119786739_b9beddc091_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/27362978@N04/3119786739/)
Some aerial photos of apartment blocks and downtown © Ricky Wilkinson (http://www.flickr.com/photos/27362978@N04/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/41/103901375_7a62ba64c4.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scienceduck/103901375/)
Best Western Kenora, tallest hotel between Ottawa and Winnipeg. © Scienceduck (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scienceduck/)

Nicko999
Jan 2, 2009, 7:15 PM
Best Western Kenora, tallest hotel between Ottawa and Winnipeg. © Scienceduck (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scienceduck/)

You mean between Toronto and Winnipeg?

Rico Rommheim
Jan 2, 2009, 7:37 PM
You mean between Toronto and Winnipeg?

Toronto is (south) west of Ottawa. Actually Vid was wrong, London, Ontario is actually even closer to Thunder bay (in terms of west) and I'm pretty sure Sudbury has a 10-11 storey office block.

vid
Jan 2, 2009, 7:47 PM
It is 11 storeys. Sudbury doesn't have any hotels over 11 storeys. Timmins and Sault Ste. Marie both have 9 storey hotels. If you go by road, Highway 17 in Kenora goes to Sudbury, then from Sudbury highway 17 goes to Ottawa. If you turn onto highway 69, that becomes highway 400 around Orillia then goes to Toronto. But you have to turn onto a different road. Technically, Ottawa is just down the street from Kenora, and Kenora is between Ottawa and Winnipeg. (17 becomes 1 in Manitoba.)

Highway 11, which once started in Toronto, does not go to Kenora.

To get to London without going through the US, you have to go through Toronto, unless you take backroads.

If you go east-west regardless of roads, its the tallest in Canada between Windsor and Winnipeg. (Windsor lines up with the midpoint between Sault and Suds)

Metro-One
Jan 2, 2009, 7:51 PM
:previous: Now this kind of debate is what these forums are all about!

vid
Jan 2, 2009, 7:55 PM
For the record, I think we should have limited this to CAs and CMAs with under 500,000, to exclude cities that are just separately governed parts of larger urban areas.

Rico Rommheim
Jan 2, 2009, 8:04 PM
Oh shit, I didn't read the hotel part, sorry.

mmmatt
Jan 2, 2009, 10:48 PM
Ill throw in my little plug for NB

Saint John ~69,000 (metro ~124,000)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Sjnb-skyline.jpg
credit: wiki

Moncton ~65,000 (metro ~126,000)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/98/Monctonskyline_857.png
credit: me

dennis
Jan 2, 2009, 11:03 PM
Brandon, Manitoba, Pop. 41,511 (2006)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2112/2386310917_616dc689ed_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3087/2406670032_33190287bb_b.jpg
by pokoroto on flickr.com
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3206/3001804116_f2e6be586a_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3269/2846993482_ae95533240_b.jpg
by trogodor420 on flickr.com
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/4767161.jpg
by wily14u on panoramio.com
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/13937582.jpg
by WpgDavid on panoramio.com

Metro-One
Jan 2, 2009, 11:15 PM
How come all these small cities in the east (save Halifax) seem to have no new towers. All their recent growth seems to be in the form of sprawl.

Hootch
Jan 2, 2009, 11:28 PM
with the exception of a few short years following forced municipal mergers (rendered moot with the demerger), Westmount was and is an independent city. It is still predominately English-speaking, but today almost all speak French fluently.

Wow, that's really interesting! Weird though.

mmmatt
Jan 3, 2009, 12:07 AM
How come all these small cities in the east (save Halifax) seem to have no new towers. All their recent growth seems to be in the form of sprawl.

Cause we have lots of space, and its cheaper to build in the 'burbs...city government doesnt push urban nearly enough, and not many in the general public seem to really care :(

That being said in Moncton we have had a few new "tall" (from our small city perspective) buildings go up in the past 20 years.

- Blue Cross center, 9 floors - 1988
- City Hall, 6 floors - 1996
- Moncton Place, 6 floors - 1996
- Chateau Moncton, 6 floors - early 2000s
- Belmar Plaza, 6 floors - 2006
- Marriott, 6 floors - 2008

And we have a couple of towers in the 7-10 floor range that will be going up downtown in the next couple of years.

In Saint John the Mercintile Center @ 8 floors went up in the late 90's and they have a new hotel @ 10 floors going up right now. They also have a few sizable towers on the horizon.

In Fredericton there has been a few buildings in the 6-8 floor range go up since the early 90's and they have a new 6-7 floor office/convention center goin up as well.

Obviously nothing super impressive, but there is some movement :P

Metro-One
Jan 3, 2009, 12:29 AM
:previous: No complaints there, that is better than nothing.

eemy
Jan 3, 2009, 12:44 AM
The king of skyline for a small city is Yellowknife(pop: 18 700)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Downtown_Yellowknife_2.jpg/800px-Downtown_Yellowknife_2.jpg

I like how the city is fit in between all the rock. Those are huge outcroppings.

For the record, I think we should have limited this to CAs and CMAs with under 500,000, to exclude cities that are just separately governed parts of larger urban areas.

I agree. I implicitly understood this to refer to metropolitan areas (using the CMA definition) because it made the most sense. What's the point of a thread full of photos of Burnaby et. al. that we've seen thousands of times when this thread was specifically created as a platform of those smaller centres that don't get the same attention such as Yellowknife or Peterborough?

Metro-One
Jan 3, 2009, 12:57 AM
:previous: Seen a thousand times? i believe i am probably the only person who has posted any Metrotown pictures and i doubt few here (outside of Vancouver) can say with accuracy what the New West, Coquitlam, Brentwood, etc... skylines look like. For example i have only seen a couple pics of Mississauga and i would like to see more. To me the point of this thread was simply to limit the Downtown Vancouver, Toronto, Calgary and Montreal skylines from taking over, for they account for about 95% of the skyline pictures we see.

sparky212
Jan 3, 2009, 12:59 AM
I agree. I implicitly understood this to refer to metropolitan areas (using the CMA definition) because it made the most sense. What's the point of a thread full of photos of Burnaby et. al. that we've seen thousands of times when this thread was specifically created as a platform of those smaller centres that don't get the same attention such as Yellowknife or Peterborough?

or London.:D

Metro-One
Jan 3, 2009, 1:02 AM
:previous: Ok, i will listen to sparky because he is the thread creator, so here he is god :D

PS - is CMA an Ontario expression?

In BC they are called "Metros or Greater Areas"

I have never seen a local or provincial document use the term "CMA"

crooked rain
Jan 3, 2009, 1:04 AM
what's with that ugly clock tower on top of Mackenzie Seeds in Brandon?

sparky212
Jan 3, 2009, 1:07 AM
PS - is CMA an Ontario expression?


:shrug: I always called them metro's

Metro-One
Jan 3, 2009, 1:10 AM
Me too, i love the word metro! (As one may tell from my name) hehe

mmmatt
Jan 3, 2009, 1:16 AM
CMA (Census Metropolitan Area) is the offical term used by Stats Canada for a metro area.

There are 33 CMAs in Canada, to be a CMA a metro area must have an "urban core" of around 100,000 people.

MolsonExport
Jan 3, 2009, 1:31 AM
Long live McKenzie seeds!

Cambridgite
Jan 3, 2009, 3:52 AM
Well Yellowknife does have a population under 20 000, and Kitchener is nearly double Peterborough. For a 500 000 CMA is is pretty lame. They must have one of the, if not the lowest tower per capita ratio of any greater area over 100 000 in Canada.

Keep in mind that, within the urbanized core, there are 5 downtown cores. I showed the 3 largest (the two others are in Cambridge). Rather than one core expanding out and consuming all the others, they more or less grew together. And even besides that, the tri-city area is very decentralized and expansive. Even if you forget about the downtown cores, there are numerous nodes of activity from regional shopping centres, power centres, intense retail strips, office parks, university districts, major apartment clusters. It's a pretty large place that the downtown photos alone don't do any justice to. Ironically, it feels like a much larger metropolitan area when you're driving around in the suburbs and could easily pass for the hustle and bustle of any suburban area around a large city like Toronto. I would say pretty much the only small town features about the area are the lack of an old, developed, solid downtown core.

Other non-downtown skylines.

Fairview Park Mall area off in the distance, looking from the eastside of downtown.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2224/2263872056_46f0a3babd_b.jpg

King/University - King/Columbia skyline. A cluster of apartment buildings to the north of uptown Waterloo and Wilfred Laurier University.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb210/Cambridgite/Uptown%20Waterloo/Picture241.jpg

Victoria Hills skyline (the hood) in West Kitchener.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb210/Cambridgite/Suburban%20Kitchener/Picture026.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb210/Cambridgite/Suburban%20Kitchener/Picture024.jpg

And don't take this as a negative spin on the whole area, just in the aspect of urban density.

Don't worry, I'm not one of the other Waterloo Region forumers who will remain nameless. :haha:

touraccuracy
Jan 3, 2009, 7:55 AM
Edit: didn't see the other thread for suburbs http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=163085

Distill3d
Jan 3, 2009, 4:52 PM
if someone can include Burlington, than the cities that make up Metro Vancouver (ie: Burnaby, North Vancouver etc) are fair game.


North Vancouver, city: 45,165 (photo credit: me)
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j155/starfcuk/100_0912.jpg

vid
Jan 4, 2009, 11:44 AM
But North Vancouver is Vancouver, it just has a separate government. Same thing for Burlington. It's part of the same urban area as Hamilton. It's basically a part of Hamilton that is separate from it by an imaginary line.

Spocket
Jan 4, 2009, 12:36 PM
Ultimately I wonder if Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge/Guelph isn't actually a better model even if by accident. With everything being more evenly distributed throughout the region , the classic North American urban planning problems are probably considerably less pronounced.


Cambridgite (and anybody else in that region) is this the case ?

Distill3d
Jan 4, 2009, 4:24 PM
But North Vancouver is Vancouver, it just has a separate government. Same thing for Burlington. It's part of the same urban area as Hamilton. It's basically a part of Hamilton that is separate from it by an imaginary line.

Burlington is part of both the GTA and Hamilton isn't it?

flar
Jan 4, 2009, 5:21 PM
Burlington is part of both the GTA and Hamilton isn't it?

Yes it is. The GTA is made up of Toronto plus the regions of York, Halton, Peel and Durham. Burlington is in Halton Region so it is included in the GTA. Burlington is also included in Hamilton's CMA and Hamilton's UA (urban area) by Statistics Canada. Burlington is generally considered part of Greater Hamilton.

Aylmer
Jan 4, 2009, 6:15 PM
Sarnia, Ontario
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/porthuron/00213.jpg

I'm really sorry, but that is the saddest skyline I have ever seen.

:)

Cambridgite
Jan 4, 2009, 6:16 PM
Ultimately I wonder if Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge/Guelph isn't actually a better model even if by accident. With everything being more evenly distributed throughout the region , the classic North American urban planning problems are probably considerably less pronounced.


Cambridgite (and anybody else in that region) is this the case ?

Depends what you mean be "the classic North American urban planning problems" (maybe you could specify). We certainly have the problems of urban sprawl, traffic congestion, and car dependance no less than most Canadian cities. I think it actually makes it even harder to pull off a functional transit system when you don't have one downtown core with a very large number of people working there. The largest is downtown Kitchener with only 12,000 workers (though will probably be around 16,000 when the Lang Tannery is renovated and moved into). However, one kind of accidental stroke of luck we have is that we have many major destinations forming a line. This is the impetus behind the current iXpress bus service and future LRT line. So while downtown Kitchener may not warrant an LRT line in itself, it lines up with 2 or 3 other downtowns (depending on the route chosen), 2 or 3 major indoor malls (depending on the route chosen), 2 universities, another major activity area, and 1 or 2 hospitals (depending on the route chosen). Collectively, this builds a spine that has a lot of potential to be built onto further. Think of the Yonge Street corridor in Toronto or Peachtree Street in Atlanta, but less significant.

Another consequence of this urban form is that you have a region with a less cohesive identity. On one hand, this adds more interest to the Region than a single downtown, inner city, with suburbs around it. On the other hand, people in the different cities don't see themselves as relating to their neighbour cities as much (whereas Burnaby is an obvious suburb of Vancouver). If you take Cambridge for example, most people in Cambridge do their shopping and other regular errands in Cambridge and don't venture further than the very southern parts of Kitchener very often unless they happen to work there or have some other extenuating circumstance (maybe if there's a concert or they're visiting friends, etc). In my case, I wouldn't know a great deal about the other neighbour cities if I wasn't doing my schooling in Waterloo. Even with Guelph, I barely ever go there, but I do know people who commute to school there, go to Guelph bars and clubs, and work in Guelph. However, they are in a separate regional municipality, so our transit systems are not co-ordinated. The hope is that GO transit can take on that role as they move west from the GTA.

sparky212
Jan 4, 2009, 8:24 PM
I'm really sorry, but that is the saddest skyline I have ever seen.

:)

It looks better if you go to the boat launch. But it's still sad for a city that size.:haha:

softee
Jan 4, 2009, 10:35 PM
^ It would be pretty good if the buildings were closer together. Sarnia only has about 80K so it's not bad for a city that size.

sparky212
Jan 5, 2009, 2:51 AM
the cement block on the left is brought to you by tricar. Building commie blockes for your satisfaction for over 10 years.

boden
Jan 5, 2009, 3:16 AM
Brockville, Ontario, Pop. 21,000. I think it has a pretty decent "mini-skyline" for such a small city. It is a really nice place too.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3278/3056959789_18b5b8c1d1_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3290/3057796328_4a654ae9cf_o.jpghttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3271/3056960239_430d4736d0_o.jpghttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3156/3057796744_7a652c1510_b.jpg

Distill3d
Jan 5, 2009, 3:18 AM
I'm really sorry, but that is the saddest skyline I have ever seen.

:)

then you've never seen Grande Prairie...

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j155/starfcuk/GP.jpg

photo source: google earth.

flar
Jan 5, 2009, 3:19 AM
At least Sarnia has a decent highrise, Kenwick Place.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/sarnia/00044.jpg


There are really no tall buildings southwest of London (other than Windsor of course). There are a few "high rise" apartments in Chatham and Wallaceburg but I don't think any of them are more than 12 storeys. So Sarnia has a kick ass skyline for that part of the country.

Metro-One
Jan 5, 2009, 8:52 AM
Need some pics of Kamloops, Nanaimo and Kelowna on here.

Elmira Guy
Jan 5, 2009, 9:47 AM
Brockville, Ontario, Pop. 21,000. I think it has a pretty decent "mini-skyline" for such a small city. It is a really nice place too.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3278/3056959789_18b5b8c1d1_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3290/3057796328_4a654ae9cf_o.jpghttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3271/3056960239_430d4736d0_o.jpghttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3156/3057796744_7a652c1510_b.jpg

Nice pics!

I did my teaching placement in Brockville. I thought it was a nice little city too!

vid
Jan 5, 2009, 9:09 PM
Please don't quote an entire post full of photos without removing the photos. Especially when they're larger than 800x600.

Thunder Bay is similar to Kitchener-Waterloo-Cambridge-Guelph. Two (or three) downtowns all lined up, two separate cities, and people from one city rarely go to the other, but unlike KW, we have a place between the two cities where everyone meets. It's basically two separate cities with one overlapping big box area. (We have less big box stores per capita than other cities this size, since they're all optimally located in the middle of the city.) In that aspect it is better because we have less urban sprawl dedicated to shopping areas, and have got sort of a downtown out of it as well. The downside is our residential areas aren't very dense. Like KW, an LRT line (or at least BRT) would be somewhat feasible here. (Especially since we already have a rail corridor linking both downtowns, Intercity including our largest mall, and the airport.) Our university and college don't line up though. Each of our downtown areas has its own thing going, so there is more variety in downtowns, unlike Toronto which really only has one actual downtown.

There are benefits and negatives to this urban model. It's pretty common in Europe, the metro area of Frankfurt is really hundreds are cities, Frankfurt proper probably isn't much bigger than KW itself but the region has millions of people.

sparky212
Jan 5, 2009, 9:12 PM
I like the building with the green roof.:tup:

Migs
Jan 6, 2009, 8:35 AM
Here are some more of Saskatchewan's Capital city, Regina. Population 210,000. Oh and be sure and check out my Regina photo blog. Cheers

http://reginainpictures.blogspot.com

:cheers:

http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/4538/13734/269498.jpg
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/4538/13734/269497.jpg
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/4538/13734/269499.jpg
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/4538/13734/269500.jpg
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/4538/13734/269501.jpg
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/4538/13734/269502.jpg

(all photos are mine)

Elmira Guy
Jan 6, 2009, 8:38 AM
Sorry

Please don't quote an entire post full of photos without removing the photos. Especially when they're larger than 800x600.

Thunder Bay is similar to Kitchener-Waterloo-Cambridge-Guelph. Two (or three) downtowns all lined up, two separate cities, and people from one city rarely go to the other, but unlike KW, we have a place between the two cities where everyone meets. It's basically two separate cities with one overlapping big box area. (We have less big box stores per capita than other cities this size, since they're all optimally located in the middle of the city.) In that aspect it is better because we have less urban sprawl dedicated to shopping areas, and have got sort of a downtown out of it as well. The downside is our residential areas aren't very dense. Like KW, an LRT line (or at least BRT) would be somewhat feasible here. (Especially since we already have a rail corridor linking both downtowns, Intercity including our largest mall, and the airport.) Our university and college don't line up though. Each of our downtown areas has its own thing going, so there is more variety in downtowns, unlike Toronto which really only has one actual downtown.

There are benefits and negatives to this urban model. It's pretty common in Europe, the metro area of Frankfurt is really hundreds are cities, Frankfurt proper probably isn't much bigger than KW itself but the region has millions of people.

Distill3d
Jan 6, 2009, 9:16 AM
Regina is pretty impressive for a city that size. i didn't realize its downtown was so dense

Cambridgite
Jan 6, 2009, 1:20 PM
Regina is pretty impressive for a city that size. i didn't realize its downtown was so dense

Yeah I know. When I first saw the photo, I was like 'damn, that's one good skyline shot of Edmonton'. (ducks to avoid cinderblocks being thrown at my head by Edmonton forumers)

patboy
Jan 7, 2009, 5:10 PM
My bornplace.

Rimouski, in eastern Québec
Pop. 42 000
http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/17728/2968130460086338073S600x600Q85.jpg

Biff
Jan 7, 2009, 5:38 PM
Regina has to have, hands down the best skyline of any city of comparable size, anywhere!

Hootch
Jan 8, 2009, 7:29 PM
Please don't quote an entire post full of photos without removing the photos. Especially when they're larger than 800x600.

I know! God, it just REALLY gets on my nerves!

vid
Jan 8, 2009, 10:01 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3459/3180586032_b0eb547405_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vidioman/3180586032/)
© Me! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vidioman/)

If things go well, either the spot between the old red building and the 1950s blue one or the part on the left near the dirty little building (our city bus terminal) will become a shiny new highrise in a couple years. The province will announce the location of the new court house later this month, and that is where the city wants to put it.

A4Regina
Jan 9, 2009, 12:35 AM
Heres one i took from last summer. I miss summer :(

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7026/dsc04067aj7.jpg
credit:me

401_King
Jan 9, 2009, 2:14 AM
There are really no tall buildings southwest of London (other than Windsor of course). There are a few "high rise" apartments in Chatham and Wallaceburg but I don't think any of them are more than 12 storeys. So Sarnia has a kick ass skyline for that part of the country.

u should try to find a pic with those buildings and the bluewater bridge!

ErickMontreal
Jan 9, 2009, 2:22 AM
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Ruckus
Jan 9, 2009, 4:10 AM
Saskatoon - CMA population 233,923

All photos by me, except where indicated.

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/6015/dscf19553480573jw2.jpg

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9868/20061124landfillpicsrivms3.jpg

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/6015/panogood3518690ak4.jpg

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/2719/pb0502683527860at8.jpg

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/9256/earlymorningskyline5zs5.jpg
Credit: Chris Davis (Friend of SASKFTW)

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/7986/dscf18353468387zs9.jpg

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/7316/dscf21253494285al8.jpg

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/5425/dscf22833505142ca8.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3203/3087105861_1e8dc0cf27_b.jpg
photo by: Tom™5 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomtheman5/3087105861/

Future skyline with proposed developments
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5571/stoonfuturewg53549310zr4.jpg
Credit: CtrlAltDel (Original photo by: Tom™5 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomtheman5/3087105861/)

Combined future and fantasy skyline
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/3837/stoonfuturepotential354pd4.jpg
Credit: CtrlAltDel (Edited by SASKFTW)

Distill3d
Jan 9, 2009, 6:17 AM
Saskatoon - CMA population 233,923

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/2719/pb0502683527860at8.jpg

what is this complex? it looks like a hospital or maybe even a prison

Ruckus
Jan 9, 2009, 7:07 AM
what is this complex? it looks like a hospital or maybe even a prison

Royal University Hospital...prison like indeed.

Nathan
Jan 9, 2009, 7:08 AM
what is this complex? it looks like a hospital or maybe even a prison

It's on the U of S campus I think... I don't know what building it is though... it appears SASKFTW narrowly beat me...

ReginaGuy
Jan 9, 2009, 7:51 AM
Here's one of Regina I took it last summer. Taken about 8km from the eastern edge of the city, near Pilot Butte

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/306/july122007014ou1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Distill3d
Jan 9, 2009, 9:39 AM
i'll say it again, Regina is really impressive.

i keep hearing about how its the "city that time forgot" from friends and family that have been there recently, but i think i may have to come and check it out.

Elmira Guy
Jan 9, 2009, 11:05 AM
I know! God, it just REALLY gets on my nerves!


Okay, okay. Only one sorry, and a vow to never do it again!

Fair enough?