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SteelTown

Aug 30, 2008, 3:04 PM

Anthony Powell respecting property at Bay Street North (Added Item)

Mr. Powell addressed Committee on behalf of his client, Marino Rakovac. Mr. Powell provided an overview of the history of this proposal to re-use a former wrecking yard for a multi-residential development. He noted that his client was ready to proceed and requested the City’s help in removing the property from the Setting Sail appeal, which is currently before the OMB.

Committee discussed the matter in detail and had additional information supplied by the delegation and staff.

On a Motion (Bratina/Clark), Committee directed that the matter should be placed on the next agenda, where legal staff should be present to provide advice, before any action is taken.

raisethehammer

Aug 30, 2008, 4:03 PM

a friend of mine has family down there and mentioned this to me a while back.
What a sweet view and great location near parks, James North etc....
CN needs to get the frig out of the way....it's time to move the railyard!

raisethehammer

Aug 30, 2008, 4:10 PM

wow...everyone should read that letter.
It gives a glimpse into the painfully slow pace of city hall.
I know things have been getting better recently, but this property has been rezoned for 20 years and the current owner has owned it for over 10.
Amazing.
I hope there will be a skinny 'tower' (8-10) floors in the west side of this development along Tiffany.
Would definitely remove the biggest eyesore in that area leading towards Bayfront Park.

the dude

Aug 31, 2008, 5:10 AM

there's still a redevelopment billboard on the site from, like, a billion years ago. developing that area seems like such a slam-dunk, so simple - naturally, it's painfully complicated and tedious. here's hoping we can land a stadium, a couple residential projects and move ahead with the removal of the cn yard.

raisethehammer

Aug 31, 2008, 12:07 PM

I agree, dude, this area has a TON of potential.
I hope we do it right.
Not a bunch of single family homes with double garages and townhomes.
Some good density, and streetfront retail/commercial use too.

According to my friend, this condo is supposed to be around 10 floors.
Apparently everyone who lives down there has known for some time that a 10 storey is going to be built there.
I guess we'll see.

SteelTown

Jan 3, 2009, 8:28 PM

Bayview Terrace
Hamilton, Ontario

Masterplan for new 3 building urban infill 250 unit condominium development overlooking Bayfront Park and the waterfront.

http://www.tcarch.ca/images/projects/362.jpg

http://www.tcarch.ca/images/projects/365.jpg

http://www.tcarch.ca/images/projects/364.jpg

http://www.tcarch.ca/images/projects/363.jpg

crhayes

Jan 4, 2009, 12:21 AM

Looks like it has potential to be a really nice development. I like how the buildings actually have some height =D

emge

Jan 4, 2009, 3:52 AM

beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. perfect location and it looks like a good design, especially with the terraces.

hmagazine

Jan 4, 2009, 4:07 AM

Anthony Powell respecting property at Bay Street North (Added Item)

Mr. Powell addressed Committee on behalf of his client, Marino Rakovac.

Who - by doing a quick search - is (was?) the owner of the Parisian Studios on Walnut.

Whatever become of that project - it looks done. Folks are inside - but it seems to be way under the radar...especially if it did turn into artist studios.

anything to report?

SteelTown

Jan 4, 2009, 4:42 AM

Marino Rakovac got party status at the Setting Sail Hearing for OMB. Until OMB rules on Setting Sail Rakovac's application will be "pending". It's been pending since 2000.

Hopefully OMB will hurry up and make a decision on Setting Sail.

realcity

Jan 4, 2009, 3:20 PM

It looks good.

If this is contingent on CN, I'm not getting my hopes up. Stinson will have a tower downtown before this happens.

and the one angle is an attempt to show that you can't tell there is a 16-floor tower. But those 16 floors will be chopped down to 9. For some reason Hamilton loves 9 floor buildings.

Setting Sail
Vision 20/20
Places To Build (Ontario)

All don't mean a thing to Hamilton.

SteelTown

Jan 4, 2009, 7:59 PM

CN and Marino seem to be on good terms. Marino will do a noise study to please CN.

Really it's the North End neighbourhood that's behind the OMB case, not CN. They are concerned about the traffic with Setting Sail. It sucks that a traffic issue has to stall everything, including more residential development for the North End.

realcity

Feb 26, 2010, 4:56 PM

SteelTown

Feb 9, 2012, 2:17 AM

Looks like this proposal has been cut in half as part of the OMB deal.

SteelTown

Feb 9, 2012, 11:25 PM

CH showed White Star new proposal, 8 storey with glass curtain and bricks.

LikeHamilton

Feb 10, 2012, 3:06 PM

This is on White Star's web site. Better on YouTube. Up loaded February 9th.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSnMLkgU_08&feature=player_embedded

http://www.whitestargroup.org/

msakalau

Feb 10, 2012, 6:47 PM

Do these companies not put a little more quality into their renders. my god, you could build that in sketchup in less than a day.

and what gives with that glass curtain wall...we're not in the 90s anymore

SteelTown

Oct 23, 2012, 12:10 AM

West Harbour Villa

http://www.whitestargroup.org/

Dr Awesomesauce

Oct 23, 2012, 12:21 AM

A great looking rendering...but what does it all mean exactly? Where are we in this process? Is it still contingent on CN /OMB approval?

SteelTown

Oct 23, 2012, 12:26 AM

CN agreed to this proposal as part of the OMB agreement.

Dr Awesomesauce

Oct 23, 2012, 12:30 AM

I must have missed that...pretty stunning really.

So, maybe something real can start transpiring with this project.

Wouldn't mind one of those corner units...amazing view!

urban_planner

Jul 31, 2013, 4:35 PM

Any updates on this project?

thistleclub

Nov 23, 2013, 3:51 AM

New condo development moves forward (http://www.thespec.com/news-story/4232879-new-condo-development-moves-forward/)
(Hamilton Spectator, Steve Arnold, Nov 22 2013)

A long-delayed bay front condo project is finally getting under way.

Hamilton-based White Star Group has started pre-sales of 166 condo units to be built on the site of a former auto scrap yard on Bay Street North. The development is to be called West Harbour Villa at Tiffany Square.

"This is a project that's finally on the go," said Raquel Rakovac, director of business development for White Star. "This is going to offer a real live-work atmosphere."

The White Star Auto Wreckers property, bounded by Barton, Stuart, Bay and Tiffany streets, was a scrap yard dating back to the early 1900s. In 1997 owners Jack and Rose Rotstein sold it to Hamilton builder Marino Rakovac who had plans to turn the three-acre property into a 200-unit condo project.

The idea remained mired in planning processes, the near-endless West Harbour stadium debate and opposition from CN Rail until last year when an agreement before the Ontario Municipal Board finally cleared the way for development.

Raquel Rakovac said plans are to have "shovels in the ground" by 2015 with an opening in 2016.

Those targets, she added, are designed to coincide with the opening of a new GO station, a development they see as attracting potential Toronto commuters to a more affordable condo by the water.

The current plan calls for one residential tower of 166 units on nine stories at the Stuart and Tiffany intersection with four commercial-retail buildings filling out the property.

Conceptual designer Paul Vermaat said the plan calls for two buildings of two floors and two of three floors around the perimeter of the property.

"We think 2016 is a realistic time frame for the site plan process," he said. "Objections from CN and the OMB hearing were what was holding everything back, but that's over and now it's entrenched in the official plan and we're ready to go."

CN opposed redevelopment of the site for fear of noise complaints against its nearby operations.

Units in the condo tower will be between 700 and 1,500 square feet, with prices starting around $250,000 and rising to $1 million for a penthouse.

Environmental costs of the project, he added, were settled in the original sales agreement with the Rotsteins.

"In any case," he added, "they turned out to be a lot less than people had feared."

Jason Farr, councillor for the ward in which the project is located, said he's not aware of a site plan being filed with the city, but he supports the project.

"Right now, there's no site plan before me and there's nothing formally before the planning committee at least for the next few meetings," he said. "This is an exciting project and a pleasant-looking design. I'll be happy to help facilitate them through the process."

During the stadium debate in 2010, White Star offered to build a retractable-roof stadium and velodrome for the city. It has another redevelopment project at Barton and Crooks streets, and helped with the revival of the former Langley-Parisian laundry downtown.

In March, the company offered an entire city block in the King Street and Sanford Avenue area as a package for an 11-storey 120-unit apartment building.

thomax

Nov 23, 2013, 4:47 AM

I was just wondering what was going on with this project today, awesome!

I really like the new design...
http://media.zuza.com/b/7/b7ddfe88-afbc-442a-8f0c-bb065b5b546c/B821455358Z.1_20131122200223_000_GA214COB2.2_Content.jpg
Source (http://www.thespec.com/news-story/4232879-new-condo-development-moves-forward/)

http://media.zuza.com/6/8/68b8e44a-d6c5-4ff7-8568-bac417fa2de3/B821455358Z.1_20131122200223_000_GA214COAV.2_Content.jpg
Source (http://www.thespec.com/news-story/4232879-new-condo-development-moves-forward/)

http://i43.tinypic.com/2dif71l.jpg
Source (http://www.thespec.com/news-story/4232879-new-condo-development-moves-forward/)

http://i40.tinypic.com/2mopeee.jpg
Source (http://www.thespec.com/news-story/4232879-new-condo-development-moves-forward/)

It's a lot better than the old design. I'm so glad they got rid of that weird glass wall...
YoeWbT2t2HM

Dr Awesomesauce

Nov 23, 2013, 8:27 AM

Yay! Looking good.

Beedok

Nov 23, 2013, 1:43 PM

I'll take that as a good sign that it's going to be building it fairly soon.

durandy

Nov 23, 2013, 2:14 PM

that's huge! Could be really interesting with the tiered design. Expect we'll see some movement at the Rheem lands next.

matt602

Nov 23, 2013, 9:48 PM

Very nice. This should be a catalyst for the development of the entire area. The North end is really humming now.

ScreamingViking

Nov 24, 2013, 12:06 AM

I agree with you all. This is great and it's awesome that it finally looks like something will happen in that neighbourhood.

The condo building looks nice and right-sized for the area, but I'm actually quite interested in the commercial element - it will create for a node of activity there. Given that the agreement with CN required a "buffer" of commercial/retail along Stuart St., this will be the beginning of a new commercial strip. The fact it isn't "big box" style is a huge plus, which future developments would be wise to continue to the west (which is what the city has planned, isn't it?)

Eventually, if that rail yard gets moved (:fingerscrossed:) Stuart could serve as the local commercial corridor with more residential and recreational uses along the waterfront.

thistleclub

Nov 25, 2013, 6:54 PM

Via City of Hamilton:

Public Meeting: Enhancements & Improvements for James, Barton, Kenilworth Areas (http://www.hamilton.ca/HotTopics/EnhancementImprovementsJamesBartonKenilworth.htm)

Hamilton, ON – November 25, 2013 – The City of Hamilton is inviting the public to a special launch meeting about enhancements and improvements to the areas of James Street North, Barton Street, and Kenilworth Avenue North on December 4 from 6:30pm – 9pm at LIUNA Station (King George Ballroom, 360 James St. N).

Although these projects take place in specific areas of the City they positively impact all Hamilton residents and businesses because these studies help determine how everyone can connect to the downtown, waterfront and beyond as well as create a City with even more great places to live, do business, and visit.

The meeting will provide an overview of the: Barton-Tiffany Urban Design Study (http://www.hamilton.ca/bartontiffanyUDS), the New James Street North GO Station Study (http://www.hamilton.ca/JamesStNGO), and Barton Street-Kenilworth Avenue Commercial Corridor Study (http://www.hamilton.ca/bartonkenilworth). Following the main presentation there will be an opportunity for separate group discussions for each of the three projects. The December 4, 2013 meeting is the first meeting for each of these projects and subsequent meetings will be held in 2014, which will provide additional updates and opportunities for input.

The public can RSVP for the event by emailing planningteam@hamilton.ca or calling 905-546-2424 Ext. 4498.

PROJECT DETAILS:

Barton-Tiffany Urban Design Study
The purpose of the study is to determine what future development will look like in this area. The Urban Design Study will determine things such as:

Location of buildings, their height and setbacks from the street
Transportation (roads, transit, bike lanes, sidewalks, and trails)
Parks and open spaces
Access and linkages to downtown, waterfront, and existing parks
Location of parking, loading, utility, and service areas

KDP

Nov 25, 2013, 7:10 PM

Pearlstreet

Nov 26, 2013, 5:12 PM

Sorry to disappoint you Viking, but to my knowledge that railyard isn't moving. If anything it is being expanded by a few extra rails and a turning circle thingy (which has caused friction with Dundurn as the turing circle is planned to eat up space on their land, the exact spot which is archeologically most sensitive as well).

'I love train track turning circle thingy's and hate castles' - something no one has ever said.

Where did you read of this?

Push it into the industrial areas, what difference would it make to them?

KDP

Nov 26, 2013, 6:01 PM

I have no difference what difference it would make, but that's what CN wants. And with the hurried expansion of the GO in time for the Pan Am Games, city staff are not putting up much of a fight and CN is basically getting what they want.

matt602

Nov 27, 2013, 3:00 AM

markbarbera

Nov 27, 2013, 10:30 AM

CN has been in that spot for decades upon decades and what they are opposing is new residents who will raise noise complaints against a rail yard which has been there for a long, long time. I really want that area to rejuvenate and become filled out, but I can see where CN is coming from too. Either way, that rail yard has nowhere to move to. It is the central holding place for all of the rail cars from the industrial areas in Hamilton and there's nowhere East or West that they can locate it at. A lot of big, successful cities have railyards in their urban areas... I think this is one that Hamiltonians will have to get used to.

Exactly. This rail site is over a century old and not going anywhere, due to the amount of land required and the prohibitive costs a relocation would cost. As the West Harbour evolves from industrial to commercial and residential use it will have to work around the CN yard.

Dr Awesomesauce

Nov 27, 2013, 11:51 AM

I think the best we can hope for is that the City works with CN to beautify the area and to perhaps reduce noise and anything noxious that might emanate from the site - the latter isn't terribly likely, I'm afraid.

HamiltonBoyInToronto

Nov 28, 2013, 3:15 PM

not sure how I feel about the new design ... something about it looks very 90's ... I preferred the original design (minus that hideous window curtain wall) ... it was more in line with an industrial area design (kind of similar to the distillery district in Toronto) it would be nice to create a similar theme on Hamilton's waterfront to pay homage to the beautiful history of Hamilton's Harbour ..

SteelTown

Jan 23, 2014, 7:44 PM

http://dpai.ca/system/files/515/medium/View_Along_Bay_copy.jpg

http://dpai.ca/system/files/521/medium/map-view.jpg

http://dpai.ca/system/files/517/medium/View_Along_Bay_3_copy.jpg

http://dpai.ca/system/files/520/medium/View_Along_Bay_2_copy.jpg

http://dpai.ca/system/files/518/medium/View_from_Stuart.jpg

http://dpai.ca/system/files/514/medium/Interior_2.jpg

http://dpai.ca/projects/32

Beedok

Jan 23, 2014, 7:53 PM

I think that last render is a little crooked.

Dr Awesomesauce

Jan 24, 2014, 12:22 AM

Bay St is gonna look awfully different after this project is complete.

Between this and what's developing at Pier 8...wow! City altering stuff, man. Those properties - if done properly - will fetch a handsome return.

Buy anywhere in the North-West end of the city, like, yesterday!

thistleclub

Mar 4, 2014, 9:13 PM

Dr Awesomesauce

Mar 4, 2014, 11:59 PM

^Great article - give it a read.

Those early plans for the area look a little more 1967 than 1995, however.

mattgrande

Mar 5, 2014, 1:42 PM

The Saga of White Star: An Epic Struggle May Be Resolved (http://metrohamilton.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-saga-of-white-star-an-epic-struggle-may-be-resolved)
(Metropolitan Hamilton, Gary Santucci, Mar 4 2014)

The hearing date at the Ontario Municipal Board has finally been set for June 06, 2011. Will Marino, his family and associates be freed from the bureaucratic nightmare?

So that was about two and a half years ago... What happened at the OMB? Are we any closer to shovels being in the ground?

ScreamingViking

Mar 5, 2014, 7:54 PM

Simply astonishing. The level of government incompetence and departmental politics boggles the mind.

I am glad the 1995 concept didn't happen though. Redeveloping the rail yard would definitely have been a good thing, but the model shows that everything north of Cannon between Queen and Bay would have been completely changed. I like the idea of an amphitheatre, but not one that's a Greek knockoff. And that huge retaining wall is disgusting - at the west end it looks like the top meets ground level, but eastward it stays at the same height and becomes a 3-storey barrier. Graffiti artists from all over would have been drawn here. ;)

I wonder if the model still exists somewhere. It would be neat to look at.

From the blog entry: (http://metrohamilton.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-saga-of-white-star-an-epic-struggle-may-be-resolved)
http://i1374.photobucket.com/albums/ag429/garysantucci/SiteMap_zpse750eaf4.jpg

Dr Awesomesauce

Mar 6, 2014, 12:02 AM

^I do think that the architects who built this model likely grew up in the 60s or 70s. It's weird. And yeah, what's with that retaining wall? A bit Berlin-esque.

LikeHamilton

Mar 6, 2014, 12:54 AM

At least they had a plan and vision. Like most plans you throw out the first one and it evolves from there with input from the public.

Dr Awesomesauce

Mar 6, 2014, 12:58 AM

True. Btw, I'm not taking a shot at their age, but more what influenced them during their formative years.

You know, the more I look at that model, the less I understand it. I'm not sure which end is up.

ScreamingViking

Mar 6, 2014, 2:32 AM

Of course it helps if you have had input from other key city departments too. ;)

Re: the wall... perhaps they had plans to beautify it, with a nice mural or something. Maybe an image of a lake with sailboats and marinas on the south-facing side, with a panorama of a city skyline beneath a leafy escarpment on the north. :D

Dr Awesomesauce

Mar 6, 2014, 11:24 AM

Where's Stuart St? Where's Barton? Tiffany? Weird.

ScreamingViking

Mar 6, 2014, 4:20 PM

Some of them are visible, but barely and you have to look really hard. By my guess Barton is the dividing line between existing (taupe) and new proposed buildings (white, just above centre) but the whole street would have been totally removed in the giant park area with a water feature sitting where it used to be. Stuart might be right behind the wall. Bay becomes a boulevard re-routed to curve east. The amphitheatre is at the foot of Queen. But Hess, Caroline, Tiffany - all gone.

I can see why the planning dept. would not have approved. But why they didn't work together to bring forward a compromise plan is just weird (or not, considering Hamilton's reputation for dithering and mismanaged governance)

Dr Awesomesauce

Mar 7, 2014, 12:15 AM

Yeah, it's a fascinating plan, not to mention being completely bizarre.

CaptainKirk

May 1, 2014, 4:47 PM

http://www.tiffanysquare.ca/images/Walkability.jpghttp://www.tiffanysquare.ca/exterior/View-Along-Bay.jpghttp://www.tiffanysquare.ca/exterior/View-Along-Bay-3.jpghttp://www.tiffanysquare.ca/exterior/View-from-Stuart.jpghttp://www.tiffanysquare.ca/commercial/Commercial-View.jpghttp://www.tiffanysquare.ca/commercial/Property-File-Oct-22-Commercial-View-1.jpghttp://www.tiffanysquare.ca/commercial/Property-File-Oct-22-Commercial-View-2-work.jpghttp://www.tiffanysquare.ca/commercial/Upper-Patio-Building-4-copy.jpghttp://www.tiffanysquare.ca/commercial/Property-File-Oct-22-Commercial-View-3.jpg

davidcappi

May 1, 2014, 4:54 PM

Damn, that's nice. We need more developments like this in the city. I love design.

CaptainKirk

May 1, 2014, 4:58 PM

http://www.tiffanysquare.ca/commercial/Evening-Shopping.jpghttp://www.tiffanysquare.ca/commercial/Fitness-Centre.jpghttp://www.tiffanysquare.ca/commercial/new-Commercial-View-2.jpghttp://www.tiffanysquare.ca/commercial/new-Commercial-View-3.jpghttp://www.tiffanysquare.ca/commercial/Commercial-View-Shopping-2.jpghttp://www.tiffanysquare.ca/commercial/Commercial-View-Shopping-3.jpg

Beedok

May 1, 2014, 5:05 PM

Very hopeful for this. It will be impressive for folks coming in on the GO. :D

CaptainKirk

May 1, 2014, 5:06 PM

https://fbexternal-a.akamaihd.net/safe_image.php?d=AQC3L59TSnzmFY0n&w=398&h=208&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgraph.facebook.com%2Fact_11187850%2Fadimages%3Fhashes%255B0%255D%3Dfaab346e4aa85b745a03cbf248fba2ea%26redirect%3D1&cfs=1&upscale

flar

May 1, 2014, 5:40 PM

A development like this would be amazing for Hamilton. How realistic is this proposal?

Someone should post it in the Canadian City Proposals thread.

CaptainKirk

May 1, 2014, 6:42 PM

A development like this would be amazing for Hamilton. How realistic is this proposal?

Someone should post it in the Canadian City Proposals thread.

http://www.tiffanysquare.ca/

durandy

May 1, 2014, 6:50 PM

I'm betting on this. I would be buying in the north end right now if I was in the market. Thank god they didn't build a stadium across the street.

CaptainKirk

Dec 30, 2014, 8:35 PM

Floor plans and prices

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rd834wfp28cutae/AACzBzNTws1B-EAoGH3t2NKha/Tiffany%20Square%20Brochure.pdf?dl=0

Dr Awesomesauce

Dec 30, 2014, 11:49 PM

^Thanks for that. Here's a shot from the last page of the brochure just to refresh people's memories.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/the_dude1974/West_harbour_zpsaff17849.jpg (http://s198.photobucket.com/user/the_dude1974/media/West_harbour_zpsaff17849.jpg.html)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rd834wfp28cutae/AACzBzNTws1B-EAoGH3t2NKha/Tiffany%20Square%20Brochure.pdf?dl=0

matt602

Dec 31, 2014, 12:31 AM

This inspired me to take a look at Barton West between Bay and Tiffany in google maps between 2009 and 2012. Depressing. Really hope this all gets built or that was all a giant waste.

SteelTown

Dec 31, 2014, 6:20 AM

So what's being proposed at Stuart and Tiffany based on the image above? Appears to be six buildings in total.

Dr Awesomesauce

Dec 31, 2014, 1:54 PM

^I guess they didn't want the architecture to be too monotonous. Dunno...

Berklon

Dec 31, 2014, 3:28 PM

Pretty overpriced units. They realize this isn't Toronto, right?

matt602

Dec 31, 2014, 6:30 PM

... and that the area is still surrounded in brownfields, a few industries and an active train yard.

CaptainKirk

Jan 12, 2015, 3:57 AM

In just the first few days of availability, Tiffany Square is already 25% sold out

https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10931489_584716321629325_6559818078597861608_n.jpg?oh=fb58f18f31a56917177d77ff81e2317b&oe=5537419E

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10917301_584718214962469_8221531472563415497_n.jpg?oh=ad1a5f0e1c05724a1b5199a5eac64ff4&oe=5528910A&__gda__=1428551043_f44c1ef416049d7cc599cd1fe7269d75

https://www.facebook.com/tiffanysquarewestharbour?fref=nf

davidcappi

Jan 12, 2015, 7:31 AM

This is a weird development. I like the density, but I'm not a fan of how it looks.

Beedok

Jan 12, 2015, 2:47 PM

It's very unique at least. As long as they don't use white spandrel or aluminum siding it should make an interesting landmark.

Bubba9000

Jan 12, 2015, 3:33 PM

I like the mix of building shapes. It almost appears as a few separate developments rather than a monolithic blockbuster (helped in part from unusual lot shape).

The roof shapes of the office/commercial buildings are strange though. Not likely they'll look like that when built.

All this needs now is a bit of colour! It's unfortunate they're going for this ugly monochrome chic that seems trendy in decor now.

CaptainKirk

Oct 20, 2015, 12:01 PM

I'm all for solar panels, but they sure make the building look ugly IMO, in this new video (if that's what's on the roof)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw8z7oFPGb4

http://www.tiffanysquare.ca/exterior/exterior-6.jpg

http://www.tiffanysquare.ca/exterior/exterior-1.jpg

Dr Awesomesauce

Oct 20, 2015, 12:15 PM

I dunno, watching that video gives me a real 'Welcome to 1992' vibe. And what's with that 'Tiffany Square' font? More like 1952. Not only that but it seems grotesquely out of scale with the rest of the neighbourhood. Not too hot on this proposal...

davidcappi

Oct 21, 2015, 12:48 AM

Was watching that video when... wait, is that...? Zoolander.......? In other news the new design is fine (though I favoured the old one) except for the weird peaked solar roof thing they have happening. I'm not really sure what to think about the aesthetics of that, but hey renewable energy.

http://s17.postimg.org/55khfk2kv/Screen_Shot_2015_10_20_at_8_46_59_PM.png

Dr Awesomesauce

Oct 21, 2015, 1:16 AM

^Good eye!

lucasmascotto

Oct 21, 2015, 3:35 AM

I really don't know what to say here. This condo project has been like seven years in the planning phase and frankly I'm getting annoyed. Part of me is demanding that something - anything at this point gets built and soon, but on the other hand if it's been this much time and controversy just settling on a plan I can only imagine how horrid the building process and even the final product will be. I guess to the developers I wish them a very much needed "good luck"

Dr Awesomesauce

Oct 22, 2015, 12:36 AM

Yes. Yes. And yes.

realcity

Oct 23, 2015, 12:06 PM

Looks like Upper Middle Road.

ScreamingViking

Oct 24, 2015, 10:12 PM

More white for central Hamilton.

Not sure what I feel about this, including the angular solar-panel roof, but I feel they could have gone more creative with this proposal.

However, I do want to see it happen... finally.

Beedok

Oct 24, 2015, 10:48 PM

Well, it got a solid downgrade of design, so maybe that's a sign it'll happen? :rolleyes:

King&James

Sep 23, 2016, 10:46 PM

so 11 months later (since last posting)...... anyone have an update

Markus83

Sep 28, 2016, 9:19 AM

I think I saw a duck waddle by there last week. He stopped, looked at the ground, then kept on a waddlin.

Beedok

Sep 28, 2016, 3:53 PM

I think I saw a duck waddle by there last week. He stopped, looked at the ground, then kept on a waddlin.

Soil testing.

eatboots

Sep 28, 2016, 10:52 PM

The whole area north of York has the potential to be very different over the next few years, there is a ton of empty land almost directly beside the GO Station, I honestly can't believe there isn't more happening down there. One townhouse development and that is it...

King&James

Sep 29, 2016, 1:30 AM

I think I saw a duck waddle by there last week. He stopped, looked at the ground, then kept on a waddlin.

Excellent thanks , probably part of a longer stroll to the Acclamation site, the Connolly, before resting at the Grand - a true nature preserve

Markus83

Oct 2, 2016, 4:39 AM

Heh @ Beedok and King&James

Rg2016

Mar 27, 2017, 11:26 PM

Dozers on site, theyre clearing and digging stuff up..

lucasmascotto

Mar 28, 2017, 1:25 AM

It's about damn time! That condo was purposed before I even started puberty! :sly:

NortheastWind

Mar 28, 2017, 12:17 PM

It's been so long I had to Google about it for a reminder. Here's their website. (http://www.tiffanysquare.ca)

realcity

Mar 28, 2017, 2:53 PM

Is the City building this?

davidcappi

Mar 28, 2017, 2:54 PM

They have a super weird sales centre on Walnut near King. I never went in, but the location was bizarre. I wonder if its still there.

LikeHamilton

Oct 5, 2017, 6:23 PM

According to an article in the Hamilton Magazine, the residential portion is up for sale but they plan to develop the commercial lands.

timach

Oct 25, 2017, 6:13 PM

Was looking for vacant land on realtor.ca and noticed (I think it's the right address anyways) the Tiffany Square site up for sale.

lachlanholmes

Oct 25, 2017, 6:55 PM

Was looking for vacant land on realtor.ca and noticed (I think it's the right address anyways) the Tiffany Square site up for sale.

Indeed.

https://www.realtor.ca/Residential/Vacant-Land/18713762/271-BAY-ST-N-Hamilton-Ontario-Central#v=d

MichaelStJean

Nov 23, 2017, 12:01 PM

The site was for sale and has been purchased.

catcher_of_cats

Nov 23, 2017, 12:44 PM

The site was for sale and has been purchased.

Thanks for the update.

NortheastWind

Nov 27, 2017, 6:31 PM

The website still has it for sale. $11,750,000

timach

Jan 16, 2018, 8:12 PM

Saw some action here this afternoon. Looked like some trucks were digging. And the lonely house has a construction sign on it

SteelTown

Feb 24, 2018, 1:51 AM

Site for West Harbour condo project being cleared

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/8151099-site-for-west-harbour-condo-project-being-cleared/

Work crews have begun cleaning debris from the site of a former North End wrecking yard to make way for a major condominium project at the west harbour.

Raquel Rakovac, president of the company spearheading the Tiffany Square Condominiums project, says workers with Reimar Construction are "getting rid of some of the junk that's been on the property" to prepare the site for the planned eight-storey, 200-unit building.

The project will also require soil remediation.

"Before soil can be legally removed or cleaned, the contractor need approvals from the City of Hamilton that haven't been granted yet," said Lindsay Davidson, a Ministry of the Environment and Climate Change spokesperson.

A ministry officer visited the site Feb. 16 to discuss activities with Reimar, Davidson said.

"The work on-site is related to the removal of debris from the previous scrap yard operation and no soil has been excavated or removed from the site."

Another issue is a multimillion-dollar lawsuit against the City of Hamilton that Rakovac says is ongoing.

"It's being worked through at the moment. We are not able to comment too much at this moment, but it is looking positive," she said.

The lawsuit launched in 2012 alleges, among other things, the developer has been "the victim of a flawed planning process" and suffered "substantial damages from the delay in the development of its lands."

An ongoing lawsuit would mean the developer would effectively be ineligible for hundreds of thousands of dollars in municipal tax and development charge relief.

Tiffany Square Condominiums at West Harbour held a launch party in June 2015 and has been collecting reservations since then.

Rakovac said she is confident the project will be a hit because of its location in the west harbour and proximity to the James Street North GO Station.