Taipei | Gate of Taipei | 319m | 76 fl | 239m | 56 fl | Prep

[williamchung taiwan]

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[williamchung taiwan]

from skyscrapers.cn
by 白



8/26
continuous wall seen to be completed
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[Australiasian]

going no where still? the site has been like that for ages guys!

[williamchung taiwan]

going no where still? the site has been like that for ages guys!

There is a MRT beneath the Gate of Taipei which is airport line.

[Razqal]

i hope they keep that little park. and even expand it. the city needs more green open space and trees cuz it's so polluted and dense.

[ed21x]

eh? i live in manhattan right now, feel free to come by if you want to see dense and polluted. after living here, going to taipei is a breath of very fresh air. and besides, have you ever stopped complaining about taiwan?

[Razqal]

eh? i live in manhattan right now, feel free to come by if you want to see dense and polluted. after living here, going to taipei is a breath of very fresh air. and besides, have you ever stopped complaining about taiwan?

i'm originally from nyc too. if you live in manhattan than you should know central park takes up a huge chunk of manhattan and just a subway ride from any part of the island. and there's other squares and smaller parks that dot the island and very well maintained, e.g., madison square park, gramercy park, cloisters, battery park etc. not to mention flushing meadows, brooklyn botanical, bronx botanical, etc. in the other boroughs. and the air in nyc is generally better than in taipei. having those parklands definitely help.

i complain about nyc and los angeles too, btw. :D

[ed21x]

ahh... in that case, as long as every place gets criticized equally :) One thing that I've noticed about Taiwanese people is that they tend to criticize Taiwan disproportionately compared to people from other cities, and there is a general lack of civic pride... although it is getting better now. And yeah, you're right, NYC does have alot of designated parks and nice areas. However, the places that are NOT nice are also dangerous, which is a main factor that makes Taipei (and Taiwan for that matter) appealing. No matter how run down a place is, it is still safe to walk around in. I would take the most run down places of Taipei over the Bronx, Harlem, Long Beach, South Central LA any day of the week.

[williamchung taiwan]

I do not want to say about air or environmentm, but I suppose that New York and Taipei are totally different cities. New York is traditional western style city and Taipei is similar to Japanese cities. It is hard to say which city is better. In some particular areas, for example public transport. Taipei MRT is one the best MRTs in the world. But you can say that New York has one of the most beautiful skylines in the world. It's really just depended on which point you are looking.

Street vendor is an interesting thing. Most Aisan cities have street vandor. In Taiwan, is night market.
Here is a report I find from internet:
http://www.apsa2005.net/FullPapers/PdfFormat/Full%20Paper%20(A-H)/Atsushi%20Deguchi.pdf

[duabi]

I found this in "Urban Design in Cities of Taiwan" page 79

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6643/011wx9.jpg

1. 1984 KMG
2. 1989 Sasaki

Looks like..not much has been done since then lol

[Australiasian]

I found this in "Urban Design in Cities of Taiwan" page 79

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6643/011wx9.jpg

1. 1984 KMG
2. 1989 Sasaki

Looks like..not much has been done since then lol

oh my god, it just shows how grossly inefficient the taiwanese government is!! 20 years down the track and still nothing?

[williamchung taiwan]

Actually, the plan is changed like this
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[williamchung taiwan]

However, the plan is still changing.

[pierre-laurent]

it's time that the dated taipei main station is renovated. whole the urban environment around is evolving...

[jjl]

Wait.. I liked the original tower designs. What the heck is going on?!

[Coyett]

Wait.. I liked the original tower designs. What the heck is going on?!

Nothing going on, the original plan for Maki's towers is still in the works. William's post is not one but actually three completely unrelated projects; Central Park, The Gate of Taipei, and the TDC business center near the corner of Zhongshan. I've listed them according to architect in the "Downtown" thread. ;)

[williamchung taiwan]

Here's detail of central station urban planning (2006)

台北車站特區 E1 E2暫予保留區先期規劃

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[Razqal]

Are They Going To Build That Gate Of Taipei Already And If So When???????

[Coyett]

Are They Going To Build That Gate Of Taipei Already And If So When???????

Construction of the Gate of Taipei can only begin after the bus station has been relocated to itaipei. My best guess would be sometime in early 2010.

[Australiasian]

hurry up already!

[anyiliang]

Construction of the Gate of Taipei can only begin after the bus station has been relocated to itaipei. My best guess would be sometime in early 2010.

Is iTaipei that building, the one that looks like four?

[williamchung taiwan]

桃園國際機場聯外捷運線ca450b標

臺北車站特定區c1/d1大樓與臺北站共構土木結構及電梯、電扶梯工程順利決標(2008.11.28)



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桃園國際機場聯外捷運線「ca450b標臺北車站特定區c1/d1大樓與臺北站共構土木結構及電梯、電扶梯工程」第二次招標，



於11月21日正式公告發售標案，在今（28）日開標，共有3家廠商參與投標，



由互助營造股份有限公司以新臺幣玖拾參億伍仟捌佰萬元整得標。



機場線ca450b標為臺北站(a1車站)及聯開大樓地面主體工程，位於臺北站特定專用區c1及d1東半街廓基地上，



為地下四層之建築，地下第四層為停車場，地下第三層為桃園機場捷運a1車站之月台層，地下二層、一層為車站大廳層，



其基地上方為兩棟商業聯開大樓，c1街廓大樓為地上56層大樓， D1東半街廓基地大樓為地上76層大樓，

The underground construction which contain Taipei main station and Gate of Taipei is going to start.

[williamchung taiwan]

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[williamchung taiwan]

11/02/09
from skyscrapers.tw by templer
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[Australiasian]

have they even started laying out foundations?

[williamchung taiwan]

from skyscrapers.tw

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/1_zTji198Ycqrt.jpg

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[Razqal]

thanks for the new post. are they going to build this sucker already??

[williamchung taiwan]

Still waiting for MRT A1 station complete , the reason is it is part of Gate of Taipei foundation and basement and also the removal of bus interchange in
D1 site which will be relocated in I-Taipie.

[Razqal]

Still waiting for MRT A1 station complete , the reason is it is part of Gate of Taipei foundation and basement and also the removal of bus interchange in
D1 site which will be relocated in I-Taipie.

but isnt gate of taipei right across the street from taipei main station? why do they need another mrt station under gate of taipei?

[ed21x]

but isnt gate of taipei right across the street from taipei main station? why do they need another mrt station under gate of taipei?

A1 refers specifically to the Airport Access MRT stop, which is accessible via underground passage from Taipei Main Station, but will be directly under these towers. I'm assuming they probably ran out of space at TMS, or maybe having a separate area for the Airport Link is better logistically as TMS is already congested and overburdened. Moving the bus hub away from TMS will also do well to remove congestion in that area.

[anyiliang]

but isnt gate of taipei right across the street from taipei main station? why do they need another mrt station under gate of taipei?

It will be just like Hong Kong. In Hong Kong you can take the Express train from the Airport to Central Station on Hong Kong Island. But once you get to Central Station you have to walk under a long tunnel to access the MTR.

[Coyett]

Beimen - Taipei Aiport MRT Terminal -Taipei Main Station

[sungFFman]

Does anyone know when the bus terminal will be moved to iTaipei? Honestly, the current one is horrible.

No air conditioning? You kidding me, feels like walking into a furnace.

[williamchung taiwan]

Does anyone know when the bus terminal will be moved to iTaipei? Honestly, the current one is horrible.

No air conditioning? You kidding me, feels like walking into a furnace.

Sadly, the bus companies find there is problem for circulation of ITaipei. They also find the bus driver is hard to drive the bus inside ITaipei.

[anyiliang]

I was told by a Ho-Hsin Staff member that they should be moving over there in July.

[williamchung taiwan]

from skyscrapers.tw by 白

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/DSC_8900-2.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/DSC_8900.jpg

[Razqal]

cool!!! finally some construction!!

you know something i noticed about construction projects in taiwan: they dont seem to build big holes in the ground but build right on the surface. is that right? dont they need to build foundations below ground and space for a parking garage?

if you check out construction projects in this forum like in new york city, they tend to build huge holes tens of feet below the surface.

[williamchung taiwan]

from skyscrapers.tw

These pictures were all taken by 白

The photo which took in 2007.

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[williamchung taiwan]

These photos are taken in 2008.


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[williamchung taiwan]

They excavate the site first and dig a couple of holes on it. One of these holes is use to remove underground water. And then they put the continous retaining wall in remain two hole and pour concrete into. I think underground foundation is in process and we can not see from the surface.

(Continous retaining wall is about 50m deep....)

For information, I think we need to ask engineer....

[Razqal]

They excavate the site first and dig a couple of holes on it. One of these holes is use to remove underground water. And then they put the continous retaining wall in remain two hole and pour concrete into. I think underground foundation is in process and we can not see from the surface.

(Continous retaining wall is about 50m deep....)

For information, I think we need to ask engineer....

i dont see how you can build a foundation without building a hole from the surface. usually you just dig a big hole and pour concrete for the retaining walls and floors and then put in the pillars for the structure, etc. like at world trade center new york city:


(look how big and deep this hole is)

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82706999/large.jpg

[metroXpress]

holy smokes....this is even taller than Vancouver's tallest (197m)

[williamchung taiwan]

i dont see how you can build a foundation without building a hole from the surface. usually you just dig a big hole and pour concrete for the retaining walls and floors and then put in the pillars for the structure, etc. like at world trade center new york city:


(look how big and deep this hole is)

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82706999/large.jpg

Everything I say in my last respond is depend on these photos I posted, but I not an engineer. I just say what I saw from photos and also some infromation from skyscrapers.tw. And, the A1 station is in process, it is part of the foundation of this twin tower. From this point, I guess the underground construction is still going and we just can not see from surface.

I also hear from skyscrapers.tw, they use some construction tech same as use for tunnel.

Unfortunately, I'm not engineer......
I really think it is better ask engineer staff.
And there are a lot of construction tech, maybe it is one you not often see in Amercia.

[Razqal]

Everything I say in my last respond is depend on these photos I posted, but I not an engineer. I just say what I saw from photos and also some infromation from skyscrapers.tw. And, the A1 station is in process, it is part of the foundation of this twin tower. From this point, I guess the underground construction is still going and we just can not see from surface.

I also hear from skyscrapers.tw, they use some construction tech same as use for tunnel.

Unfortunately, I'm not engineer......
I really think it is better ask engineer staff.
And there are a lot of construction tech, maybe it is one you not often see in Amercia.

okay tank yoo xie xie chop chop!! :cool:

[williamchung taiwan]

okay tank yoo xie xie chop chop!! :cool:
I don't understand what you try to say!:rolleyes:
Is it kind of English?:P

[metroXpress]

okay tank yoo xie xie chop chop!! :cool:

than koo bery mach....I understand!@!:rolleyes:

[Razqal]

I don't understand what you try to say!:rolleyes:
Is it kind of English?:P

me no speaka no engwish. me speaka chingwish!! chop chop!! :haha:

[williamchung taiwan]

from skyscrapers.tw from 白

23/08/09
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/DSC_9356.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/DSC_9349-1.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/DSC_9349.jpg

[metroXpress]

what a clear view of the site...thanks!

[williamchung taiwan]

The tendering of superstructure for this project still haven't get any tenders come to take. The reason is residentail project have much higher internal rate of return than official project in these ten years. And also most Taiwan big companies are manufacture and IT, they don't need a lot of office space. Economic recession is also affect the rent....
These factors come together result no tenderers.

[williamchung taiwan]

by 白 15/11/09

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/DSC_0017.jpg

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[metroXpress]

Still nothing going~ ah

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t305/jazz94270252/DSC_9335.jpg

skyscrapers.tw

[R@ptor]

Unfortunately the entire site is surrounded by a high fence and unless you have access to one of the highrises in the surrounding area its impossible to take a good photo of the construction site. But there seems to be a lot of activity going on there, but its still not above ground.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2744/4280656921_845a400833_o.jpg
My Photo

[Taipei Walker]

You can easily get to K Mall building (the one next to Shinkong Tower)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3317/3494902611_b369b33dcc_b.jpg

and you will have this view:
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/DSC_9349-1.jpg

[williamchung taiwan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdV553BlmiQ&feature=related

[sing]

It looks good from the film. I can't wait to see the two buildings would be built.

[williamchung taiwan]

Finally, they demolish the bus interchange in D1 site.

by templar
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/IMG_3540.jpg

[williamchung taiwan]

Source
http://ppp2.pcc.gov.tw/pcc_site/files/5_2_3_i3.pdf

post by 白 in skyscrapers.tw


C1 Tower
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/201039012856-3.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/201039012856-5.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/201039012923.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/201039012953.jpg

[Bobbert]

I love this project. Great plans and a great location.

[williamchung taiwan]

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc196/originevian/oo8/IMG_7699.jpg

from taiwan-city.com by originevian

[Razqal]

omg, they really need to raze that entire area!! look at how dumpy all those buildings are!! only nice thing there is the green grass!!

[williamchung taiwan]

omg, they really need to raze that entire area!! look at how dumpy all those buildings are!! only nice thing there is the green grass!!
Yes! They need to do something to this area.

[Razqal]

so when are they going to start on them towers??

[williamchung taiwan]

so when are they going to start on them towers??
The contractor has set up susidiary company for the construction, should be not far away.

[williamchung taiwan]

from taiwan-city forum by hoboway

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3933/87099538.png

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/8816/66129060.png

[sing]

The speed of the construction is so slowly.

[ed21x]

they're constructing a subway station under it, as well as facilities to check in luggage, etc. perhaps a lot of things have already been happening underground?

[williamchung taiwan]

they're constructing a subway station under it, as well as facilities to check in luggage, etc. perhaps a lot of things have already been happening underground?
They are constructing underground structure, includes A1 station of MRT Airport line, besement, tunnel connect Taipei Main Station and A1 station.
The forecast show that it will finish at 2011 for C1 and 2012. (from official document I can find)

[pttwarrior]

Sorry, I feel a little pessimistic for this......

台北雙子星開發案 四度流標
2010/08/12
【經濟日報╱記者楊文琪／台北報導】
總投資金額高達357億元的台北車站C1D1雙子星大樓聯合開發案，唯一一家投標廠商因不符合甄審須知規定而落選，此案11日宣告第四度流標，承辦的台北市政府捷運局檢討後，擇期辦理第五次招標作業。

不過，政府推出的促進民間參與公共建設投資案（促參案），今年到目前為止簽約金額已達349億元，全年可望突破1,800億元，將創下91年推動促參案件以來簽約金額新高紀錄。

台北車站雙子星聯開案，為適用促參法的投資案， 捷運局官員昨天表示，此案經甄審委員會審查後，決議未跨過甄審須知規定的門檻，由於後續還將辦理招商事宜，且可能列入招標規範中，因此，投標廠商未跨越門檻的理由，不便公開對外說明。

據瞭解，這次參與投標的廠商僅有一組團隊，為國內企業合資組成，但捷運局不願證實。工程會官員指出，此案已列為管控的促參案件，雖然這次流標，但相信景氣好轉及台北雙子星地理位置優越，未來應可順利完成招標。

[Razqal]

what does it say? translation please!

[williamchung taiwan]

what does it say? translation please!
My understanding is the bid for superstructure of this twin tower has been failed for four times as the only qualified company fail to prove its financial capability.

In other hand, building company cannot contruct superstruture unless the underground structure are all complete so we still have one year.
So it still have one year leave to finish this bid.

[williamchung taiwan]

工商時報【記者薛孟杰／台北報導】

已4度流標、預計在4月份5度招標的雙子星大樓招標規定將變更。台北市長郝龍斌接受本報專訪時表示，雙子星大樓之所以多次流標，是因為規格被綁死，並不合理，他已請相關單位研究改變招標條件，爭取外資及世界一流建築師及團隊投標參與興建。

郝龍斌說，行政團隊效率夠不夠好，左右北市公共建設的工程進度與品質，以北市規劃的雙子星大樓為例，未來將成為台灣的國境大門，因此不論是設計、品質都希望達到世界一流。他日前出訪香港、新加坡，亦舉行國際招商說明會，就是希望引進國際資金，及一流建築團隊參與興建。

郝龍斌指出，桃園機場捷運即將在民國103年完工，配合機場捷運完成，雙子星大樓下捷運車站雖已在2006年開始動工，但是主體建築，包括商場、國際旅館都因為卡在已多次流標，無法動工。他檢視招標規定後，質疑雙子星大樓先將設計規格定好的作法，並不合理，應該要推翻。

郝龍斌要求同仁針對細部計畫討論，檢視是否有不利開國際標、吸引一流建築團隊參與之處，若有就要更改，郝龍斌強調，「若要世界一流建築師參與，卻要按照原先已定下的設計進行，誰會想來呢？」

台北雙子星大樓目前的設計是由日籍建築師槙文彥設計，主體建築設計強調以太極互動形塑一個「門的意象」，若北市要改變設計，會改變到何種程度，引發外界好奇。對此，郝龍斌說，他已要求副市長陳威任檢討中，他並懷疑雙子星原先採規格標的作法，可能與公務員不想扛太重責任有關。

Taipei Mayor is seeking a new design team to change the design. What is point here? I have no idea. How about original design team?

[williamchung taiwan]

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by Luis

[williamchung taiwan]

http://money.chinatimes.com/newmoney/realtime/newscontent.aspx?NewsSN=000322000431

《傳產》600億元雙子星捷運聯開案，300人擠爆說明會
2011-03-22 【時報-台北電】


總投資金額估計上看600億元、預計4月底公告徵求投資人的台北車站特定專用區雙子星C1D1捷運聯合開發案，昨（21）日由台北市捷運局舉辦第5度徵求投資人說明會，結果意外吸引超過300位國內外投資人和專業法人，擠爆會場。此次捷運局破天荒把C1、D1分開招標，使得投資門檻、潛在風險相對降低，預期D1先脫標的成功率極高。
　號稱是台灣史上規模最大的捷運聯合開發案雙子星C1D1聯開案，昨天進行第5度招商，雖然政策猛烈炮火打炒房，但民間游資仍十分充沛，光是潛在投資人和顧問公司，就把現場擠得水泄不通，國泰、新光、富邦、潤泰、日勝生、興富發、華固、中工等知名公司，都沒缺席。(新聞來源：工商時報─記者蔡惠芳／台北報導)

The 5th time tender was launched yesterday and had attract 300 investors during conference presentation. There will have two tenders, one for C1 tower, one for D1 tower which I believe is a good strategy.

[williamchung taiwan]

originally taken by web1415
Taiwan-city forum

post by Taipei Walker
skyscrapercity.com

http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/9275/img4489y.jpg

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/2183/img4490d.jpg

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/6643/img4491v.jpg

[williamchung taiwan]

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/2951/unledjwx.png

[Coyett]

William, who won the tender?

[williamchung taiwan]

William, who won the tender?
No idea....
The tender will start next month again.
It is fifth time for this......

[williamchung taiwan]

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5242/unledgp.jpg
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/539/1212byt.jpg

[Ganplosive]

any updates on this building??

[williamchung taiwan]

any updates on this building??

The steel frame structure is almost done for the part government administration underake.

[Ganplosive]

Were the bids successful? Is it going to be multi-party ownership or was there a stand out winning bidder?

[williamchung taiwan]

No comfirmed information, the bidding still in process.

[Ganplosive]

there goes the 2017 expected finish date lmao. This building needs to get built man, it's been close to 8 years since they first announced it. Considering how fast the Chinese are putting their towers up, Does this one really require up to 6 years?? I suppose EQ and typhoons do make it more tricky:shrug:

[williamchung taiwan]

there goes the 2017 expected finish date lmao. This building needs to get built man, it's been close to 8 years since they first announced it. Considering how fast the Chinese are putting their towers up, Does this one really require up to 6 years?? I suppose EQ and typhoons do make it more tricky:shrug:

It is not attractive investment. This BOT only allow investor have 50 years operation period and about 30% porportion of entire building need to hand to government and original land owner.

So you spend billions dollars on construction, and you only have 70% of the buildings and you only have 50 years to get your return back.

[williamchung taiwan]

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6657/img6776tj.jpg

by web1415 taiwan-city forum

[kalifese]

It is not attractive investment. This BOT only allow investor have 50 years operation period and about 30% porportion of entire building need to hand to government and original land owner.

So you spend billions dollars on construction, and you only have 70% of the buildings and you only have 50 years to get your return back.


why do they have to give the govt. 30%?? the govt should just let the private company own it if they want to buy the land and spend money to construct the building. and the govt. should spend money building the train terminal portion. i dont get it. :shrug:

[williamchung taiwan]

雙子星今截標 可望順利脫標
2012/02/16
【聯合晚報／記者游智文／台北報導】
已多次流標的台北雙子星大樓開發案，日前公布第5次招標，並於今天(16日)截標，據了解，這次有國內、國外多組人馬確定投標，包括壽險、私募基金等，有機會順利脫標。

台北雙子星大樓為機場捷運線共構站，由於機場捷運103年通車在即，招商刻不容緩，捷運工程局在第5次招商時特地降低投標限制，果然在截標後，收到多組人馬投標。

雙子星分為C1、D1兩塊基地，合計面積約9556坪，預計興建56、76樓兩棟大樓，估計未來可開發的樓地板面積約有16萬坪，比101大樓的10萬多坪還要多出近6萬坪。未來完工後，將和台北101並立為東西兩大地標建築。

雙子星未來主要規劃作為百貨商場、辦公室及飯店，其中低樓層規畫百貨商場、中間樓層則是規劃辦公室、高樓層則規劃為五星級飯店，根據最先的設計，兩棟大樓將在空中以空橋連接，形成國門意象。

全球資產管理專案經理王維宏表示，大樓興建完成後飯店部份可能會採信託方式，或以REAT方式處理，辦公室則可能出售，依目前行情推算，未來辦公室售價每坪可望上看100萬元行情，以總樓地板面積16萬坪來算，量體高達1600億元。
http://money.udn.com/house/story ... 57624#ixzz1matVGLIg


The good news for this time. There are couple of investors and developers have submited tender before end of invitation.

I think the main reason is office market in Taipei is expanding strongly. Last year, the average price of commercial real eastate increased by 25%.

[williamchung taiwan]

搶雙子星開發案 拚長期收益

【經濟日報╱記者黃啟菱／台北報導】
2012.03.15 03:59 am

中華工程（2515）卡位台灣新國門，日前已結盟外商以中華雙子星公司的名義，投標台北車站雙子星大樓開發案，全案最快8月有結果。

中工總經理蔡維力昨（14）日指出，此案量體大、地點佳，若成功得標，將為中工創造長期穩定的固定收益。雙子星開發案停滯多年，近日重新招標，共有五組人馬投標，除中工之外，億大集團與旗下的長鴻營造也出手。

蔡維力說，此案正在審標階段，不便說明細節，但雙子星大樓地點絕佳，未來規劃以商場百貨、旅館、辦公室為主，有助於中工創造固定收益。

中工近年來積極轉型，但仍有近百億元的工業區代辦之應收帳款卡住，財務流動性大受影響，蔡維力表示，正與工業局討論，盼解決此問題，讓公司的現金流動狀況更好。

中工還有一個固定收益的轉投資事業較少人知，就是喜滿客影城。據瞭解，中工對喜滿客的直接持股約15%，若加計透過其他子公司持有的股權則高達七成，每年喜滿客都可獲利3,000萬元至4,000萬元，轉回到中工的獲利雖然不是非常多，但十分穩定。

喜滿客目前在台灣有兩大據點，今年也展開中國大陸布局，規劃未來四年在大陸拓展約30座影城，長期目標則是增至100座影城。

http://udn.com/NEWS/STOCK/STO4/6962338.shtml#ixzz1p8xSotir

5 tenders are comfirmed that have submited tender documents for this BOT bid.

[Delirious]

Finally! Takes so long.

[williamchung taiwan]

Finally! Takes so long.

Commercial market is doing well compare residentail market in real easte. That is one factor that investors consider this development as safe long term investment.

[williamchung taiwan]

Local news comfirmed that 4 tenderers have been qualified for this bid. Now Bureau of Taipei MRT is going to select one final qualifier in following months. The final announcement will be made on August.

[williamchung taiwan]

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[williamchung taiwan]

by 白. from Taiwan-city forum
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[williamchung taiwan]

http://i.imgur.com/18d9E.jpg

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from taiwan-city forum

[kalifese]

so is the building topped off at 3 stories?

[williamchung taiwan]

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..台北車站雙子星大樓案 太極雙星得標
.-字+字.作者： 陳秀玲╱台北報導 | 中時電子報 – 2012年10月29日 上午5:30.
....中國時報【陳秀玲╱台北報導】

台灣史上最大、總投資金額超過七百億元的台北車站Ｃ１、Ｄ１雙子星大樓聯合開發案，經過五度流標後，台北市長郝龍斌廿八日興奮宣布，由太極雙星國際開發股份有限公司取得第一順位投資人資格，預計一年後動工，未來二棟大樓樓地板面積十五．八萬坪，將是台北一○一大樓的一．五倍，台北市府零出資，但未來可分得至少五十五％權利比例。

郝龍斌昨晚比預定時間提早一小時抵捷運局宣布上述結果，他強調，施工後可增加二．三萬個工作機會，這也是台灣有史以來最大開發案，以後也難有超越此開發案，可見國際間對台北市非常看好。

他表示，台北雙子星大樓位於台北車站特定專用區內，該區整合六鐵一客運，是繼香港、吉隆坡及曼谷之後，全世界捷運站中兼具延伸國際機場服務功能的第四個城市及地區。外商直接投資金額達二百億元，對國內貢獻產值也高達三百億元；每年稅收十一億元，增進國民所得每年六十五億元以上，擴增營建市場至少五八○億元。在國內景氣一片低迷之際，台北車站特定專用區開發案決標將對國內經濟貢獻很多。

台北市副市長陳威仁指出，昨天參與投標評選的前三名團隊依序為：太極雙星國際開發股份有限公司、中華工程股份有限公司、雙子星國際開發股份有限公司。

其中，太極雙星團隊以承諾地主分配比例、政府出資比例、財務結構、對都市計畫影響等等因素勝出。市府不希望本案只是土地開發，必須帶動西區再造，對台北車站、淡水河岸有完整構思，打動評審委員給予最高分。

陳威仁表示，太極雙星團隊包括麗晶集團潘思亮、洲際酒店等，未來這兩棟大樓還有商辦大樓、潮流百貨商場、免稅商店及亞洲藝廊等娛樂設施。此團隊由森大廈株式會社及知名工程顧問公司美商栢誠國際股份有限公司擔任計畫總顧問。

太極雙星國際開發公司代表何岳儒指出，團隊成員包括日本鶴川營造、互助營造、森集團、馬來西亞商怡保花園有限公司（IGB CORPORATION BERHAD）、馬來西亞商谷中城私人有限公司（MID VALLEY CITY SDN．BHD．），國外著名實績案件有日本東京六本木之丘、上海環球金融中心等。

太極及鶴川公司專案協調人王佑仁表示，太極雙星團隊是全新組合，集合東北亞、東南亞頂尖開發商，共同投資亞太樞紐台灣的嶄新國際地標。

台北車站特定專用區Ｃ１、Ｄ１兩棟樓未來落成後遠眺似草書「門」字型，形塑國家門戶首都意象，其中Ｃ１基地為地上五十六層、地下四層，預定民國一○六年完工；Ｄ１基地為地上七十六層、地下四層，預定一○七年完工。

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[williamchung taiwan]

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........台北車站特區雙子星開發案 外商太極雙星得標
.-字+字.自由時報 – 2012年10月29日 上午4:28.
...總開發金額 台灣史上最大

〔自由時報記者徐義平／台北報導〕第五次招商的Ｃ１、Ｄ１雙子星聯合開發案昨日總算選出最優申請人，結果太極雙星國際開發與馬來西亞商怡保花園公司、谷中城公司組成的團隊，擊退中華工程、億大集團等本土團隊。台北市長郝龍斌表示，該開發案預計興建的樓地板面積、總開發金額均是台灣史上最大。


據悉，太極雙星正是第四次招商時，使用賀川名義，最後因資格不符被淘汰的團隊，第五次招商時，改以太極雙星名義投標，順利勝出。

樓地板面積 比一○一還大

費時五年、歷經四次流標的Ｃ１、Ｄ１雙子星聯合開發案，第五次招商時，共吸引四組團隊參與，因其中一組資格不符，僅中華工程團隊、億大團隊及太極雙星團隊等三組進入決標。昨日決標結果，由太極雙星團隊奪下第一順位，中華工程團隊、億大團隊分居第二、第三順位。

市府零出資 可分55％產權

台北市副市長陳威仁表示，評分標準分為開發建議書、承諾地主分回比例、政府出資、財務狀況、都市計畫影響與社會公益狀況等項目，其中太極雙星勝出的關鍵是「市府零出資，並分回五十五％的產權給市府等地主」；另外，國際經營與建築經驗，還有永續經營的特色，都是獲得評分較高的原因。

不過，曾以賀川名義參與招標的太極雙星，其背景仍令人好奇。親自到場的太極雙星董事長何岳儒說，日本森集團是由森家族持有，在日本非上市公司，而是森家族成員百分百持有的公司；太極雙星與賀川均是由森集團的公司成員、股東所組成，另外還有互助營造也是太極雙星的股東之一，他並表示，資金來源均是外資，絕對沒有一毛錢是從中資來的。

中工第二順位：輸給價格

至於，傳出太極雙星團隊是與私地主合作投資，是否有關係人投標問題？針對此疑點，台北市捷運局表示，並沒有任何問題。第二順位的中華工程則遺憾表示「非常遺憾，價值及規劃最後輸給了價格」，但中工不願透露提出的分配比例等條件。

台北市長郝龍斌說，此案的總樓地板面積為十五萬八千坪，是一○一大樓的一．五倍，廠商總投資金額約七、八百億元（包括營造與招商成本、稅金等），預計可創造二．三萬個工作機會，是台灣有史以來規模最大的聯合開發案。他說，不景氣下，此消息格外令人振奮，且對北市西區活化與軸線翻轉，別具意義。

Ｃ１、Ｄ１雙子星聯合開發案坐落於北市市民大道、重慶北路口兩側，合計基地面積約九五五六．八七坪，預估未來可興建的樓地板面積約十五．八萬坪，超越一○一大樓，預計總投資金額也超越七月時、南山人壽拿下的「世貿二館」開發案的總投資金額五百億至六百億元。

[williamchung taiwan]

The foreign team consist of Mori Group Subsidiary, IGB Corporation Berhad and Mid Valley Private Company win the BOT contract for erecting rest of superstructure (from floor 3) and operating 50 years.

The construction will start next year and should finish entire building in 2017.

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