2010 Winter Olympics vs. 2020 Summer Olympics

[mr.x]

Probably the most pointless question I've asked in awhile, but just wondering...which one?


I'd prefer the summer edition, especially 12 years from now when we have the infrastructure and population to support it. The Summer Games are also really global, with nearly every single nation participating......more sports, more glamour, more attention.

[crazyjoeda]

I almost never watch the summer games. So far I have only seen about 15min of the Beijing Games and that was only because I was stuck at a hotel in Sydney and nothing else was on. I am more interested in the Winter games, partly because Canada sucks at the summer Olympics. Personally I think the Winter Olympics mean more because a lot of the major summer events have a more important event just for their sport (FIFA World Cup Tour de France).

I wouldn't support a Summer Olympics in Vancouver in the near future.

[twoNeurons]

I prefer the grace of the winter Olympics to the Power of the Summer Olympics.

In addition, I like the smaller aspects of the Olympics. They make less money, and attract less commercialism... though this seems to be changing.

Some of my favorite events in both are figure skating, Snowboard events, luge, Volleyball (indoors and beach), BMX looks like it will be cool.

To me... the Summer Olympics has a lot more "traditional" games in it... whereas the Winter seems more "edgier"

[Yume-sama]

I really don't think Vancouver could ever handle a Summer Olympics, especially only 12 years from now. It just isn't that type of a city, with all of the roads, venues, public transportation, etc. that the BIG cities such as Tokyo, Beijing, New York, London, Paris, Chicago have. The city would be a completely disastrous nightmare. So, Winter Olympics are good enough, and it'll still be quite CRAZY :P

Plus Canada doesn't even have any athletes at the Summer Olympics... do we? :rolleyes:

[mr.x]

I really don't think Vancouver could ever handle a Summer Olympics, especially only 12 years from now. It just isn't that type of a city, with all of the roads, venues, public transportation, etc. that the BIG cities such as Tokyo, Beijing, New York, London, Paris, Chicago have. The city would be a completely disastrous nightmare. So, Winter Olympics are good enough, and it'll still be quite CRAZY :P

Plus Canada doesn't even have any athletes at the Summer Olympics... do we? :rolleyes:

Most Olympic cities don't have the venues either when they bid....as for transportation, if the province actually goes through with the 2020 transit expansion plan we'll be able to handle it.

The only real problem Vancouver might face is accommodation.

[mooks28]

Toronto will be given the right to bid by the Canadian Olympic Association well before we ever will...

[Yume-sama]

Rightfully so, really. They have the soccer stadium, Skydome, ACC, and could easily finance new buildings for swimming, etc.

BUT, Canada won't be getting the Olympics again for a long, long time. Especially if Chicago wins 2016.

[jlousa]

I think it's way too early to be thinking about summer games, lets see how 2010 goes first. Should it be a success and should Toronto lose out the next time it's nominated then the Canadian Olympic committee will have to rethink it's plan. I mean you can't keep nominating the same city and hoping it'll finally win. Who knows maybe we can get the games in 2036 to coincide with the city's 150th birthday. Montreal might deserve it again before us though, we'll really have to see how 2010 goes.
We definitely have the ability to host both the Summer and Winter game.

[twoNeurons]

Rightfully so, really. They have the soccer stadium, Skydome, ACC, and could easily finance new buildings for swimming, etc.

BUT, Canada won't be getting the Olympics again for a long, long time. Especially if Chicago wins 2016.

I don't know about Chicago... I think Rio has a chance as a Dark horse.

It's interesting, Chicago 2016 is to New York 2012 as Tokyo 2016 is to Osaka 2008. I don't remember how close Osaka was in 2008. Not sure about Madrid... given 2012 will be in London.

[Hot Rod]

Chicago will win.

And, I agree - I think Vancouver can handle the Summer Games -2036 would be nice. Until then, the city should go after other world events and games - to 'prepare' and get some Summer exposure.

[mr.x]

I think it's way too early to be thinking about summer games, lets see how 2010 goes first. Should it be a success and should Toronto lose out the next time it's nominated then the Canadian Olympic committee will have to rethink it's plan. I mean you can't keep nominating the same city and hoping it'll finally win. Who knows maybe we can get the games in 2036 to coincide with the city's 150th birthday. Montreal might deserve it again before us though, we'll really have to see how 2010 goes.
We definitely have the ability to host both the Summer and Winter game.

I certainly think it's way too early right now to think about the summer games, but I've always wondered what if we hosted the Summer Games instead of the 2010 Winter Games......2020 in my opinion is the earliest day, in terms of the city's capability, though the 2036 date you suggested is definitely much more realistic.

[punkster1982]

Mr. X just wants to see shirtless boys in speedos up close :yes:

[mr.x]

Mr. X just wants to see shirtless boys in speedos up close :yes:

You got me there.:tup:

[Distill3d]

i think when Canada starts competing at the summer games we should host them. we're a winter sport nation. we know snow and ice better that we know hard court, sand, and grass. sad to say. i will Toronto will be the next Canadian city to get the games if anything. Montreal could host the winter games, with hilled venues at Mt. Tremblant. and all that will happen before Vancouver becomes the host of both summer and winter games.

Canada is still the only country to have never won a gold medal in either summer or winter olympics while on hosting the games. neither in 1988 or 1976 did we win a gold medal. lets hope we can rectify that record in 2010

[mr.x]

i think when Canada starts competing at the summer games we should host them. especially considering that Canada is still the only country to have never won a gold medal in either summer or winter olympics on home turf.

lets hope we can abolish that record in 2010

We won 7 gold medals in 2002, we would have to be a pretty ridiculous country to leave empty handed at home.

[twoNeurons]

Mr. X just wants to see shirtless boys in speedos up close :yes:

And it's scary how young some of these Olympic boys ARE! And to think how early they had to start training!

Sidepoint... wasn't it recently that some girls were accused for being underage at the Olympics? I can't remember where I saw it but I think it was in gymnastics.

[HomeInMyShoes]

Much as we are a winter nation, I want us to hold the summer games. Better tourism exposure for Canada as more countries participate and watch.

[sacrifice333]

Tough to be legitimate competitors in Summer Olympics when up against so many larger countries that put sooooo much more money into their 'amateur' sport programs.

We'll certainly win a few golds in 2010. If nothing else we should rock in luge and skulls, not to mention pretty good chances for ice hockey, curling, and speed skating.

[GMasterAres]

I would be surprised if Rio doesn't get the games over Chicago. The IOC has proven with the China games that it is more concerned with politics than Olympic spirit and the fact there has never been a games in South America means it will win outright on that fact alone.

If it doesn't, I would be really surprised.

On the topic at hand though, Toronto is the only city in Canada that could effectively host the Summer Olympics. Maybe Vancouver in 2036 but the cost of the Summer Olympics is more than double that of the Winter Olympics and you still have people crying over the cost of 2010 in this city. The reason I say Toronto only is because they would get the most federal funding compared to all other cities in Canada minus MAYBE Montreal but been there done that with Montreal already in 76.

[Yume-sama]

And it's scary how young some of these Olympic boys ARE! And to think how early they had to start training!

Sidepoint... wasn't it recently that some girls were accused for being underage at the Olympics? I can't remember where I saw it but I think it was in gymnastics.

Some of the gold medal winning Chinese girls are allegedly 12 or 14, and there is evidence to that, but their official passports say 16.

Surely the Chinese government would never help them with that...

[EastVanMark]

I really don't think Vancouver could ever handle a Summer Olympics, especially only 12 years from now. It just isn't that type of a city, with all of the roads, venues, public transportation, etc. that the BIG cities such as Tokyo, Beijing, New York, London, Paris, Chicago have. The city would be a completely disastrous nightmare. So, Winter Olympics are good enough, and it'll still be quite CRAZY :P

Plus Canada doesn't even have any athletes at the Summer Olympics... do we? :rolleyes:

Absolutely. We could never support a summer games for a whole host of reasons. (lack of enough hotel rooms, piss poor road system, lack of LOCAL corporate muscle etc etc). This city will be bursting at the seams in under 2 years time, and keep in mind a summer games would be 5-10 times that.
The only way an event of that magnitude could work here would be if a bid could be put in alongside Seattle and as things stand now, that is not allowed.

[LeftCoaster]

^ I don't know, Barcelona did a great job of hosting the olympics and they are only a city of 3 million something, and its not like they are a corporate power house either. I would say in 20+ years we would certainly be capable of hosting the games, although the IOC would likely never give us the games that short after holding the winter games.

[mr.x]

^ agreed, and since (in terms of no. of athletes, sports, media, etc.) the Games have grown only marginally.

As for hotel rooms, the IOC requires 40,000 hotel rooms in the Summer Games host city. Right now, we're at 25,000 rooms and during Expo we had something like 11,000.

While Vancouver would house most of the venues, including aquatics at UBC and rowing/kayak at Burnaby Lake, a Summer Games in Vancouver would be spread out over several cities....

Equestrian could be held at Calgary's Spruce Meadows....afterall if Beijing held equestrian in Hong Kong, it's certainly possible. A new McMahon stadium by then could also host football. And I'm sure the Saddledome or any new arena in Calgary could host some of the indoor events. Perhaps Edmonton as well.

In Kelowna, you could have a 20,000 seat temporary stadium for football....and the arena they have could also be put to use for indoor events. At Victoria, you could have cycling, sailing, as well as football at an expanded Royal Athletic Park. And the Save-on-Foods Centre could be put to good use for an indoor event. Shooting could also be at Victoria, as well as a few other 1994 Commonwealth Games sports. And with Victoria being a co-host, BC Ferries would definitely need the overhaul that it needs.

If the province's transit plan 2020 goes ahead, i'm pretty sure we'll be capable to handle the additional traffic......on top of Gateway and expansions to the 99.

[EastVanMark]

^ I don't know, Barcelona did a great job of hosting the olympics and they are only a city of 3 million something, and its not like they are a corporate power house either. I would say in 20+ years we would certainly be capable of hosting the games, although the IOC would likely never give us the games that short after holding the winter games.

The city and immediate surrounding area has a population of just under 5 million, or roughly twice the size of metro Vancouver. As for the corporate support ya, I should have said North American bids in which all of the recent games have generated significant local support. To put things into perspective, our games for 2010 don't even cost 2 billion while the Bejing games are rumoured to be closer to $40 billion. Even at half of that amount, this region could not afford it.

[mr.x]

The city and immediate surrounding area has a population of just under 5 million, or roughly twice the size of metro Vancouver. As for the corporate support ya, I should have said North American bids in which all of the recent games have generated significant local support. To put things into perspective, our games for 2010 don't even cost 2 billion while the Bejing games are rumoured to be closer to $40 billion. Even at half of that amount, this region could not afford it.

$40-billion includes building the new airport, subways, highways, and the glamorous sports venues that no other nation could afford.

If $40-million were Beijing's Olympic cost, then for Vancouver's Winter Games cost you might as well add in the Canada Line, Sea-to-Sky, convention centre, transit expansion, etc. and the costs add up to well over $2-billion.

We wouldn't be spending even $10-billion....more like $3-billion, if you don't include the infrastructure improvements that will be made are needed regardless of whether or not we're hosting the Games.

[EastVanMark]

$40-billion includes building the new airport, subways, highways, and the glamorous sports venues that no other nation could afford.

If $40-million were Beijing's Olympic cost, then for Vancouver's Winter Games cost you might as well add in the Canada Line, Sea-to-Sky, convention centre, transit expansion, etc. and the costs add up to well over $2-billion.

We wouldn't be spending even $10-billion....more like $3-billion, if you don't include the infrastructure improvements that will be made are needed regardless of whether or not we're hosting the Games.

$3 billion? Not even close. London forecast a cost of 2.3 billion pounds (worth roughly 2x what the Canadian dollar is worth) when they first bid on the games but now that figure is rumoured to be twice that already! (2012 still being a whopping 4 years away so that figure is bound to go even higher)! So as it stands now (and again its only going to go up just as all recent olympics have; our's included) the London 2012 games will cost roughly $ 10 billion Canadian dollars.

It would probably cost close to 3 billion just for security of a games that would be stretched across multiple provinces and cities about a thousand km from each other under that baffling proposal above

[dreambrother808]

On the topic at hand though, Toronto is the only city in Canada that could effectively host the Summer Olympics.

Toronto deserves the opportunity. Vancouver and Montreal will have had theirs already. Plus the games tend to go for many a decade before they return to a previous host city.

[bils]

If $40-billion <edited> were Beijing's Olympic cost, then for Vancouver's Winter Games cost you might as well add in the Canada Line, Sea-to-Sky, convention centre, transit expansion, etc. and the costs add up to well over $2-billion.


Canada Line + Sea-to-Sky expansion + Richmond Oval = $3 billion

Include the convention centre and the athlete's village and we're over $4 billion. All of a sudden our budget isn't look so shabby.

[Distill3d]

Equestrian could be held at Calgary's Spruce Meadows....afterall if Beijing held equestrian in Hong Kong, it's certainly possible..

i'm certain the good folks over at Thunderbird Show Park out in Langley would have a few choice words for that idea. not saying that Spruce Meadows wouldn't make an amazing olympic venue.

[mr.x]

Canada Line + Sea-to-Sky expansion + Richmond Oval = $3 billion

Include the convention centre and the athlete's village and we're over $4 billion. All of a sudden our budget isn't look so shabby.

$4-billion in infrastructure plus $2-billion in VANOC's expenses and you're looking at $6-billion.....or maybe let's take a more detailed look:

Canada Line - $2-billion
Sea to Sky - $600-million
Convention Centre - $900-million
Olympic Village - $300-million (i think)
Airport expansion - $800-million
Transit improvements (e.g. new buses, third seabus, skytrain cars) - $1-billion???

I can't think of anything else, but add that up and you've got $5.6-billion. Add VANOC's $2-billion and you're at $7.6-billion.

Of course, we know that's not the case.

[mr.x]

$3 billion? Not even close. London forecast a cost of 2.3 billion pounds (worth roughly 2x what the Canadian dollar is worth) when they first bid on the games but now that figure is rumoured to be twice that already! (2012 still being a whopping 4 years away so that figure is bound to go even higher)! So as it stands now (and again its only going to go up just as all recent olympics have; our's included) the London 2012 games will cost roughly $ 10 billion Canadian dollars.

It would probably cost close to 3 billion just for security of a games that would be stretched across multiple provinces and cities about a thousand km from each other under that baffling proposal above

Well, $3-billion is for the operational costs of the Games....excluding security.


I don't think you can compare Vancouver and London, it's apples and oranges.....you do have to realize that the bulk of the money is going towards redeveloping East London into a massive Olympic Park. It's not like we'd do anything that massive in scale:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3274/2386635051_1a8a3528c9_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2063/2386641833_8fafcbd355_b.jpg
http://www.irish-architecture.com/news/2007/000302/000302a_lge.jpg





i'm certain the good folks over at Thunderbird Show Park out in Langley would have a few choice words for that idea. not saying that Spruce Meadows wouldn't make an amazing olympic venue.

I didn't even know we had an equestrian facility in the Lower Mainland.

[Distill3d]

X - by your figures, there is only really 2.3 Billion directly spent on the olympics. why are people complaining? the other 3.3 billion is going to benefit the city and the province long term. and besides that, isn't the olympic village being sold off as condos after the games anyways?

[Distill3d]

I didn't even know we had an equestrian facility in the Lower Mainland.

www.thunderbirdshowpark.com

they hold events quite a bit. not as highly regarded as Spruce Meadows, but its there. and even then i'm certain Hastings could be renovated to fit in some equestrian events. there is a fairly large infeild.

[mr.x]

X - by your figures, there is only really 2.3 Billion directly spent on the olympics. why are people complaining? the other 3.3 billion is going to benefit the city and the province long term. and besides that, isn't the olympic village being sold off as condos after the games anyways?

Ignorance and media misinformation.


I should also mention that $1.63-billion of that $2.3-billion is coming from non-public sources. $1.1-billion of that $1.63-billion has already been secured from international and domestic sponsors and tv rights, the remaining will be from merchandise and ticketing.

[Distill3d]

thats BS. i also wonder what goes through peoples heads when they start sparking all this controversy over the games being held here. the likes of the APC, RIOT 2010, and stop2010.com are really not helping their causes that much by speaking out against the games. they're only drawing more attention to the fact that Vancouver is hosting the event.

back on topic here, Toronto and Winnipeg (you laugh all you want) will be the next two Canadian cities to get the games. Toronto will host summer in 2032 and Winnipeg will get the winter games in 2050, with the nordic events at Loch Lomond.

[mr.x]

^ the APC and alike's intent is to spread misinformation so that people will sympathize them and be opposed to the Games.

I think some of you may have heard of the name Chris Shaw. Well, he has been against the 2010 Games from Day 1....and he's not just against the Games, he's actually against globalization.



Back to the topic. The only reason why the Athens, Beijing, and London venues are so ridiculously expensive is because they're all extravagant permanent designs, and their seating capacity is a lot more than the minimum of what the IOC asks for.


Below is the IOC's minimum requirements for the seating capacity, and as we all know quite a few sports share the same venue. A Vancouver Games would involve a ton of temporary venues.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/wingspread/LJ_02/venue13vl_cons.jpg


It definitely isn't THAT hard to fulfill.

[twoNeurons]

true.... but to fulfill and to win the bid are two different things. It's not likely that a city that "barely qualifies" will be likely to win the bid.

[MistyMountainHop]

I like the one where Canada wins medals. :tup:

[NetMapel]

thats BS. i also wonder what goes through peoples heads when they start sparking all this controversy over the games being held here. the likes of the APC, RIOT 2010, and stop2010.com are really not helping their causes that much by speaking out against the games. they're only drawing more attention to the fact that Vancouver is hosting the event.

back on topic here, Toronto and Winnipeg (you laugh all you want) will be the next two Canadian cities to get the games. Toronto will host summer in 2032 and Winnipeg will get the winter games in 2050, with the nordic events at Loch Lomond.

:haha: :haha: :haha: I'm so sorry I cannot stop laughing at you mentioning Winnipeg. Ottawa has a better chance hosting a winter olympics :P

[dreambrother808]

Winnipeg will get the winter games in 2050, with the nordic events at Loch Lomond.

Loch Lomond, an 8 hour drive away in Thunder Bay? Very cute... lol.

[mr.x]

true.... but to fulfill and to win the bid are two different things. It's not likely that a city that "barely qualifies" will be likely to win the bid.

Win the bid with massive promises, then do a 180 and start cutting back.:D :cheers:

[EastVanMark]

Well, $3-billion is for the operational costs of the Games....excluding security.


I don't think you can compare Vancouver and London, it's apples and oranges.....you do have to realize that the bulk of the money is going towards redeveloping East London into a massive Olympic Park. It's not like we'd do anything that massive in scale:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3274/2386635051_1a8a3528c9_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2063/2386641833_8fafcbd355_b.jpg
http://www.irish-architecture.com/news/2007/000302/000302a_lge.jpg







I didn't even know we had an equestrian facility in the Lower Mainland.

If we're talking about the potential of hosting a Summer Olympics, then its comparing apples to apples. London already had a whole host of new infrastructure including a brand spanking new stadium and arena . We wouldn't. We would also need an Olympic Village about 4 times the size of the one we are currently building for the MUCH smaller Winter Olympics. Not to mention the little matter of no major athletics facility. ( BTW The IOC would NEVER allow the main athletic stadium to be so far away from the other events; not to mention if they ever were to allow it, I'm guessing the other city would take exception to Vancouver being called the host city).
Given that, a massive chunk of land would be needed for both the main athletic stadium, and atheletes village;something Vancouver is running painfully low on. And, if a site were ever found, the roadway to it would surely need massive upgrading. That in itself could cost over $3 billion dollars. Heck, you yourself pointed out the $5-7 billion pricetag for the much smaller Winter Olympics. A whole new round of even more grandiose venues and related infrastructure in 2020 dollars would surely cost MORE than what it took to put on a much smaller games in 2010.

[Chioster]

Can we smell a little development on the False Creek Flats?

[subdude]

http://images.theglobeandmail.com/archives/RTGAM/images/20080816/wolymfcanmedal16/_done_HUYNH23.jpg

Sorry, didn't know where else to post this, I'm inspired by her story (http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=fcb56c3e-de98-49de-9412-3c7306ea82b6).

[SpongeG]

watching rowing last night i wonder where they could do that in Vancouver?

that thing went one forever and ever

poor rowers

[mr.x]

watching rowing last night i wonder where they could do that in Vancouver?

that thing went one forever and ever

poor rowers

Burnaby Lake......it held international competitions in the 1970s, but then sediments started to increase on the lake's floor and stuff started growing making it difficult to row.

The lake is definitely long enough....the international and Olympic standard is 2,000-metres, but Burnaby Lake is 2,250-metres....it's also certainly wide enough.

The province recently committed $10-million of the $30-million needed to dredge the lake so that it can be used for international competitions once again.

[MistyMountainHop]

Win the bid with massive promises, then do a 180 and start cutting back.:D :cheers:

Who would ever do that? :rolleyes:


Skating oval from SFU to Richmond (now temporary oval)
Canada Line Platforms
IIHF to NHL-sized hockey
Less social housing for Olympic village after the games

[mr.x]

Who would ever do that? :rolleyes:


Skating oval from SFU to Richmond (now temporary oval)
Canada Line Platforms
IIHF to NHL-sized hockey
Less social housing for Olympic village after the games


Don't forget no Paralympic rink in Whistler.


With that said, every host city does that. With Beijing, it was human rights. With Vancouver and London, venues.

[Distill3d]

watching rowing last night i wonder where they could do that in Vancouver?

Burnaby Lake......it held international competitions in the 1970s, but then sediments started to increase on the lake's floor and stuff started growing making it difficult to row.

i agree with you in theory. though Jericho Beach would make sense to.

[mr.x]

i agree with you in theory. though Jericho Beach would make sense to.

You can't hold rowing competitions in salt water/ocean/sea.....the rules say they have to be in fresh water, and that usually comes as a lake.

The waters off Jericho are too rough for rowing anyway.

[Distill3d]

is Fushan Bay salt or fresh water? i can't find any info on that. damn chinese amd their communist censorship

[mr.x]

is Fushan Bay salt or fresh water? i can't find any info on that. damn chinese amd their communist censorship

I'm pretty sure it's salt water, the venue for sailing.

[Distill3d]

lol i'll admit i'm talking out of my arse right now. i confused it sailing for rowing.

...this heat is getting to me (yeah, there's my excuse) lol

[cornholio]

I was gonna say False creek and remembered what is already mentioned, that is that it needs to be fresh water due to density.

The issue with Burnaby lake is that I dont see how they could get the required seating in there, after all its a nature reserve. Not to mention the dozens and doznes of Beavers that would need to be culled or relocated. I can already see the headline, canoe tips meters from finish line after colison with beaver.
The other issue is that im pretty sure their pretty strict regarding currents within the lake, I mean how many natural lakes have actually been used in past olympics.

[mr.x]

^ there are beavers in Burnaby Lake??? o_O

[cornholio]

Tons of them. Its a few years ago now but I and some buddies used to grab a couple of those blow up boats, bud and beer and just cruise around in the evening when all the beavers come out. They were all over the place always splashing with their tail cause they were pissed that we were disturbing them i guess.
Theres a beaver dome by the dock on the north side and a bunch of them on the south side.
I remember being often able to see half a dozen beavers at a time in the middle of the lake from the boat.
There are also beavers all along Brunet creek, not sure how many but you can see the chewed up trees.

[mr.x]

^ what would happen if you got near one of them, and whacked it with an oar? i'd love to picture that.

[LeftCoaster]

It would probably die...

[Overground]

Those London aerials are insane. I can even see my old apartment building over by where the stadium is going in.

It's amazing how much they've levelled this post-industrial wasteland of the Lower Lea Valley. If you look closely at the first pic, you can see where Eurostar Stratford Int. station is going in. It's in middle left, a square shaped structure. Behind it you can just see the current Stratford regional station(Tube, DLR, rail). They will be connected together by DLR. The foreground left is where the Village will go. Incredible building project!

[jlousa]

I wouldn't suggest hitting a beaver with your oar, you'd likely end up bitten by one and then stress yourself to death thinking you have rabbies. :frog:

[mr.x]

Those London aerials are insane. I can even see my old apartment building over by where the stadium is going in.

It's amazing how much they've levelled this post-industrial wasteland of the Lower Lea Valley. If you look closely at the first pic, you can see where Eurostar Stratford Int. station is going in. It's in middle left, a square shaped structure. Behind it you can just see the current Stratford regional station(Tube, DLR, rail). They will be connected together by DLR. The foreground left is where the Village will go. Incredible building project!

The final product:
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6835/parkbb2.jpg

[cornholio]

^What the hell are they planning on doing with all those venues after the games?

[Yume-sama]

I'm sure a city with 9 million people in and around it can find a use for those stadiums. Some of them are most likely temporary, such as the Field Hockey.

It does look quite remarkable... but their Stadium is way too similar to the Birds Nest :P

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6d/London_Olympic_Stadium_%28Nov_2007%29.jpg