[Dartmouth] Harbour Isle | U/C

[Dmajackson]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/jonovision/HarbourIsle.jpg?t=1225076369
Credit: "Jonovision" on Page 2.

Status: Approved
Height: Unknown
Floors: 17 (Hotel) - 3X9 (Residences)
Size: 25 Acres
Location: Off Windmill Rd across from Raleston Ave
Completion Date: Unknown
More Information: Includes 1'500 foot boardwalk, townhouses, shops, residences club, and restaurants/cafes.
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I do not have much information on this project but i did find this:

Sheppard’s Island project revamped
KEN PARTRIDGE
The Burnside News

The sign on the Windmill Road site was down and the door to the model suite was locked, but rumours of the demise of the Sheppard’s Island condominium project appear to be premature.

Joe Ross, president of GJR Developments, says the project is temporarily on hold while he works out the details of a new partnership with Milbourne Realty of Toronto.

Milbourne, an affiliate of Sotheby’s Estates of the World, wants to revamp the project into a true yachting community project. The first step in doing that is the recent purchase of an additional 11 acres adjacent to the current site.

Plans for the development are being redrawn to include a marina component and to provide better view planes on the harbour side of the condominiums. Additional waterfront buildings and a commercial centre along Windmill Road are also being added.

Those who have already put money down on the original project will have the first opportunity to roll their down payment over to one of the new units, before the project is reoffered to the public.

Ross says it was difficult to give up sole ownership of a project he has called a “dream come true,” but he says the improvements to the development are worth it.

Currently i know it is located on Windmill Road between Akerley and Wright and includes/included a mixed retail/office area with a residential upper-class building on the waterfront. If anyone has more information please post it. The sign on the road was up for years but no info was available about the project.

[Dmajackson]

Since people are still talking about this on the rumors thread its time for a name change.

As a side note the cheapest condo available in this project is $180'000

[Jonovision]

I drove by the site the other day and they have put up a big new billboard. Still nothing on it though. They were also building something on site. Maybe a sales centre?

[worldlyhaligonian]

Amazing renders on the CTV news tonight, one of the hottest looking approved sites I have seen in Halifax... and its currently under development!!!!

[Wishblade]

Amazing renders on the CTV news tonight, one of the hottest looking approved sites I have seen in Halifax... and its currently under development!!!!

its actually under construction right now?

[Dmajackson]

There has been some activity down there lately and there is something made of wood sticking out of the ground, so maybe the foundation?

Funny thing, I tried searching "Harbour Isle Halifax" in quotes and all that appeared were mine, someone123, and Jonovisions avatars....

[Dmajackson]

After an insane amount of digging i have found the Harbour East Community Council's report: click here (http://www.halifax.ca/Commcoun/hecc/documents/080807HECC1015.pdf) dated July 25, 2008 so the information should still be valid. Here are some key points:

-3 Condo buildings (6-12 storeys)
-255 units.
-No construction at the time of the report.
-8.8 acres (3.2 water) Sheppard's Island another 1.8 acres)
-Has a development agreement but the company wants changes which would require a new agreement. Harbour East does NOT support these changes.

Thiis is what the developers want:
Building A: 9 stories (35ft) wavy glass apartment building with landscaping and a boardwalk.
Building B: 6-7 stroies mansonry building.
Building C: 12 stories mansonry building.

[Takeo]

Is this the Harbour Isle project, or part of it? The Herald has an article today about "Harbour Isle" being approved. "Life Sucks" wasted no time posting some typo-riddled all lowercase nonsense. LOL.

http://thechronicleherald.ca/Metro/1072167.html

[Keith P.]

Is this the Harbour Isle project, or part of it? The Herald has an article today about "Harbour Isle" being approved. "Life Sucks" wasted no time posting some typo-riddled all lowercase nonsense. LOL.

http://thechronicleherald.ca/Metro/1072167.html

I don't know, as I found the article very confusing as to exactly what they were talking about.

Having read the staff report on Sheppard's Island, the changes to the proposal let it look a lot better than the cookie-cutter red-brick boxes they were originally proposing. Staff recommended against it, though, so I dunno what's going on.

[sdm]

hearing 1 million plus for some of the condo's

Ask me thats a lot of scratch for a condo next to an industrial park.

Nice looking project though, might be a better fit nearer to downtown Dartmouth or Halifax. Nonetheless lets see what happens with.

[Dmajackson]

Sheppard's Island and Harbour Isle ARE the same thing. When the new company bought the project the name was changed to Harbour Isle so naturally HRM didn't keep up with the name and kept it as Sheppard's Island.

From what I can tell one of the condo buildings was given the go-ahead. So yes this is part of the project. The rest still has to be approved.

[Haliguy]

Dartmouth gives the nod to Bedford plan
JENNIFER TAPLIN, METRO HALIFAX
August 12, 2008 05:00




A $300-million development for the Bedford Basin made it past the first approval hurdle.


Harbour Isle on Wright’s Cove will feature shops, a hotel, boardwalks, restaurants, condos and town homes.


The Ontario developer, The Yorkville Group, was given the nod by Dartmouth Council last week.


“We have received a wonderful response to our initial marketing campaign and we believe Harbour Isle will be a very positive major addition to the HRM including job creation, support for local businesses, and of course, additional contributions to the tax base,” said Charles Moon, president of the Yorkville Group in a statement.


“We are very pleased to be able to develop and create what the council envisioned recently with the planning initiatives to bring about a renaissance of this very special section of the HRM waterfront,” Moon said.






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[Jonovision]

I checked the website and it has yet to change, but today's paper had a new full page add for Harbour Isle. It has a aerial shot of the site with massing for the new buildings on it. It showed three building which would appear to have a modern design and most likely made of glass. They are only massings, but they do look pretty good. Two of the buildings were 8 storeys, and then there is a 15 storey point tower overlooking the marina.

[Jonovision]

Another new ad in the paper today. This time actually showing the 12 storey condo building. Looks pretty good actually. Has a nice glassy curve look to it.

[Keith P.]

They are also running radio ads for this project that, quite honestly, have one of the most annoyingly bad musical jingles I have ever heard. I would avoid the project (if I was previously interested) simply because of that awful ad.

[Jonovision]

Another new rendering in the paper today, so I thought I would scan it so you guys can see. It's actually really impressive. The type of thing I would expect at Kings Wharf.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/jonovision/scan0001.jpg?t=1221923112

[Spitfire75]

Oh wow, that's awesome.

[Keith P.]

That looks too well-designed and modern to be approved in HRM. Where are the faux-Victorian precast concrete panels, the red brick, and the styrofoam cornices? ;-)

[Wishblade]

That looks too well-designed and modern to be approved in HRM. Where are the faux-Victorian precast concrete panels, the red brick, and the styrofoam cornices? ;-)

you must be thinking of the penninsula. See, this is Dartmouth where cool things can actually get approved ;)

But all joking aside, Halifax has had some great projects approved even with the resistance. Has there actually been a project that's been shot down completely besides the midtown?

[worldlyhaligonian]

Lol, I'm not sure if this phase of the development has been approved yet. I doubt there will be much opposition, although there was a group in the community that I think was initially against this.

[Jonovision]

I don't see how this would get any opposition. It's all commercial and industrial there. No one else lives there. And most places would probably love more of a local customer base.

[sdm]

Great looking proposal.

Wrong location in my opinion. Right next to an industrial park?

[sdm]

I don't see how this would get any opposition. It's all commercial and industrial there. No one else lives there. And most places would probably love more of a local customer base.

That's if the industrial park was retail and not industrial

[Dmajackson]

That's if the industrial park was retail and not industrial

The main streets (one of which this is on) are all retail in Burnside. Its only when you get really deep into the park that it turns into industrial.

I think technically Burnside is a Business Park not a Industrial Park but i could be wrong.

The renderings look awesome :tup:

[Jonovision]

Yah, all the main streets are lined with retail or services. And it is a business park.

[sdm]

Yah, all the main streets are lined with retail or services. And it is a business park.

Its not really the retail that residents of these building will be looking for.

Besides, the area nearby by is classifed as an industrial park where brownlow commodore wright area is the business park IMO

[JET]

Also remember that Dartmouth Crossing is just a quick trip up Wright Ave. Much easier than the folks from Dartmouth that used to go to Bayer's Lake for a movie; I used to feel like I had to pack a lunch.
Maybe once this is in they can improve some of the industrial sites at the end of Windmill Rd. JET

[sdm]

Also remember that Dartmouth Crossing is just a quick trip up Wright Ave. Much easier than the folks from Dartmouth that used to go to Bayer's Lake for a movie; I used to feel like I had to pack a lunch.
Maybe once this is in they can improve some of the industrial sites at the end of Windmill Rd. JET

Thats what i fear, the purchasing of the industrial park lands to develop residential

The bottom line to me is this is a fantasic looking project that should be built near or in the core of the city.

[worldlyhaligonian]

I think of it as a positive overall... we need more density everywhere. It is going to make that area look like less of a shithole and will be clearly visible from the bridge.

Most of the major lots on the peninsula are accounted for with proposals at the moment anyway. Although I would love to see this kind of proposal at the corner of windsor and young.

[Dmajackson]

They've updated the website: Harbour Isle (http://www.harbourisle.ca/)

All I can say is HOT! and WHY ISN'T THIS DOWNTOWN!

The one thiing i dislike is the massive parking lot next to Windmill but well the whole street is butt ugly anyways so as long as the waterfront looks good i'll be happy.

[someone123]

Looks like a nice proposal.

It's not downtown because it's hard to find waterfront property there and even when you do the development gets tied up for years. Unless things change we'll see a wider and wider disparity between the downtown and suburbs in terms of investment. Ultimately everybody will pay the price in terms of added sprawl and traffic.

[Wishblade]

They've updated the website: Harbour Isle (http://www.harbourisle.ca/)

All I can say is HOT! and WHY ISN'T THIS DOWNTOWN!

The one thiing i dislike is the massive parking lot next to Windmill but well the whole street is butt ugly anyways so as long as the waterfront looks good i'll be happy.

wow, absolutely gorgeous. I'm speechless..

[hfx_chris]

Christ, can you imagine what these are going to cost...

[Dmajackson]

Christ, can you imagine what these are going to cost...

Amazingly the condos are advertised as being from $180'000 and up.

THey are advertising this as a "urban resort", which it is, but i wouldn't be surprised if more of these appeared around the Basin (mind you on a smaller scale probably). Halifax has the unique place of having lots of land available along the waterfront just minutes from downtown. Some, like this one, even have views of downtown.

[someone123]

This is being built at least partly by a major Toronto developer. I wonder if they will market it there?

If more people in Ontario appreciated what NS were like, many more of them would visit, move, or buy permanent summer homes. The South Shore should be a hugely popular resort type area.

I agree that more could go up around the Bedford Basin as well, particularly now that the harbour is in the process of becoming slightly less toxic.

[worldlyhaligonian]

Check out the video. Sick.

[Dmajackson]

Funy how they never show the ugly red ship permnamently located at the Gypsm mine...

They even have a half decent jingle for the project...very classy.

Hopefully the first of many similar projects to come. :)

[Jonovision]

Looks really nice! Not a huge fan of the website. It's a bit hard to navigate.
I did pull these off of it though.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/jonovision/HarbourIsle2.jpg?t=1225075812

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/jonovision/HarbourIsle3.jpg?t=1225075899

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/jonovision/Untitled-1.jpg?t=1225076321

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/jonovision/HarbourIsle.jpg?t=1225076369

There does seem to be an awful lot of pavement for an urban resort if you ask me.

[worldlyhaligonian]

Dartmouth is gonna be looking like Dubai, lol.

[phrenic]

Dartmouth is gonna be looking like Dubai, lol.

Lol, stack another 50-80 stories on any of those buildings and they really would look like something from the UAE.

[sdm]

Dartmouth is gonna be looking like Dubai, lol.
Maybe this one area, which until you cross the street lol.

Seriously, this should be downtown or closer too. I like the development a lot, nice clean and modern and pretty well thoughtout. But not sure Halifax is ready for this yet. Guess the developer feels so, it is after all their risk to take.

[gm_scott]

This is all really great, but I just don't know about the location. Its going to be hard enough to find all the people to fill the place anywhere in Halifax, but doing it next to an industrial park, sounds a lot harder.

[someone123]

The location as far as suburbs go actually isn't that bad. The biggest problem is traffic inside the industrial park. Aside from that, there's Dartmouth Crossing one way and then Bedford the other. It is comparable to living in Hammonds Plains or Fall River. Both areas are enormously popular.

[Dmajackson]

This place is about 15 minutes from downtown which is very convinient. THe traffic is also what worries me. Windmill Road is already filled to the brim. Hopefully when they install the stop lights they'll also put in a bus lane.

[worldlyhaligonian]

Yeah, you could be on the peninsula in a matter of minutes by car and not too much longer by public transportation. What bus serves this area, is it the 80?

Here is a funny article I found related to this topic:
http://www.burnsidenews.com/index.cfm?sid=140051&sc=397

[Dmajackson]

Yeah, you could be on the peninsula in a matter of minutes by car and not too much longer by public transportation. What bus serves this area, is it the 80?

Here is a funny article I found related to this topic:
http://www.burnsidenews.com/index.cfm?sid=140051&sc=397

The 80 goes on the other side of the Basin. The Sackville buses (85 and 87) would pass this and probably one that goes into Burnside. The MetroLink is also a two minute walk from there.

[lawsond]

question:
every render i see shows one tall tower which i count as 17 storeys.
is that correct?
all the chat here mentions 12 storeys as the higest.

[Dmajackson]

question:
every render i see shows one tall tower which i count as 17 storeys.
is that correct?
all the chat here mentions 12 storeys as the higest.

Good point. I never noticed the discrepency before.

I did some checking of my information for this thread and i turns out everything was mentioning the height of the condominium building (6-12 storeys). THe hotel does look like its going to be seventeen storeys tall.

Thanks for pointing it our "lawsond" :)

Someone should change title to this "Harbour Isle | 17-9-9-9 floors | ? | Approved" please and thank-you...

[Dmajackson]

Did some research to confirm the heights of the buildings and found an article that doesn't tell the heights but i does sum up the development nicely:

Harbour Isle
Bedford Basin

Lisa Van de Ven, National Post
Published: Saturday, November 01, 2008

The Yorkville Group recently unveiled its plans for a 25-acre master-planned project on the waterfront of Halifax's Bedford Basin. Designed by Kassner Goodspeed Architects Limited and Page + Steele Architects, the site will feature four condominium buildings when completed, with more than 500 units in total, as well as retail elements, a hotel, parks, a marina and a residents' club. The first building-- the Regatta--has been released for sale, featuring 114 units and a LEED-registered energy-efficient design.

BUILDER/DEVELOPER The Yorkville Group

BUILDING The first building, the Regatta, is nine storeys

SUITES One-bedroom, one-bedroom-plus-den, two-bedroom, two-bedroom-plus-den and three-bedroom units

SIZE 500 to 2,400 square feet

OCCUPANCY Fall, 2010

TARGET MARKET A range of buyers, including Baby Boomers, downsizers and professionals

FEATURES Units include floor-to-ceiling windows, nine-and 10-foot ceilings in the living areas, Energy Star appliances, individual hydro metering, walk-in closets and terraces of 150 to 1,600 sq. ft.

AMENITIES The project will include an indoor/outdoor swimming pool, hot tubs, saunas, fitness facilities, a screening room, a billiards room, a meeting room, a lounge with a library and a car wash bay. The master plan also includes 1,500 ft. of boardwalk, a hotel, shops, parks, a marina and a resident's club overlooking the Dartmouth Yacht Club.

STANDOUTS The site is close to local amenities --including golf courses, theatre, restaurants and boating-- while the airport is approximately 15 minutes away. The project will also be built to energy-efficient LEED standards.

SALES OFFICE Located at 675 Windmill Rd. in Dartmouth, N. S. Open Tuesday to Friday from noon to 6 p. m., and weekends and holidays from noon to 5 p. m. Call 902-481-2300 or visit harbourisle.ca

The Regretta is the building on the far left in most renderings (from the water).

[Wishblade]

Judging by the occupancy date, this should be getting underway very soon I would think. Probably spring?

[phrenic]

I wouldn't have expected it to have three bedroom units. I wonder how many there are.

[terrynorthend]

Sadly, I can't imagine this getting off the ground anytime soon, what with the looming global recession. They appear to be marketing this internationally (bad timing), and it is a VERY capital intense project (difficult financing).

[sdm]

Sadly, I can't imagine this getting off the ground anytime soon, what with the looming global recession. They appear to be marketing this internationally (bad timing), and it is a VERY capital intense project (difficult financing).

I hate to say it but if projects like trillum and Halkirk and UG aren't a go, i doubt this will be either. Maybe in a few years?

I still rather see this development closer to downtown, then next to the industrial park.

[Wishblade]

I hate to say it but if projects like trillum and Halkirk and UG aren't a go, i doubt this will be either. Maybe in a few years?

I still rather see this development closer to downtown, then next to the industrial park.

Trillium has started, stop talking like it hasn't lol.

And I hope we can get more than that through in the next couple years. UG will have had their time run out to start on their towers by then.

[someone123]

I hate to say it but if projects like trillum and Halkirk and UG aren't a go, i doubt this will be either. Maybe in a few years?

The Trillium developers are still trying to move forward. Apparently a significant number of units in that building are already reserved. To be honest I think the financing angle has been exaggerated. At the end of the day the big bottleneck is that there isn't immediate demand for the thousands of high-end condos that these projects represent.

We will probably see a couple proceed relatively soon and a couple more happen after that, which is exactly the normal pace for development given the economic climate in Halifax. I really doubt that the Harbour Isle developers thought they would be throwing up these buildings all at once.

Office is slightly different but still fundamentally pretty similar. International Place for example needs to be mostly pre-leased to major, long-term tenants before it can proceed.

It's possible that the global economic problems could end up working in Halifax's favour since it's much cheaper than the large cities (though this disadvantage starts to disappear with meddling from council etc.) and maybe there will be fewer labour issues.

[sdm]

Trillium has started, stop talking like it hasn't lol.

And I hope we can get more than that through in the next couple years. UG will have had their time run out to start on their towers by then.

guess we will see who is right on trillium. I say they don't start till late 09, early 2010.

Financing is extremely hard right now, the 50% presold which was typically the case a few months ago will not cut it today. Banks are looking for 60-70% or more now. The same is applied to commercial.

Things will change, eventually, but for the next little while funds are tight.

[Dmajackson]

I still rather see this development closer to downtown, then next to the industrial park.

Well I'm hoping that this will start a new trend of nice buildings along the Basin waterfront. Theres tonnes of space and nothing too important in the area for other projects along these lines to come forward.



We will probably see a couple proceed relatively soon and a couple more happen after that, which is exactly the normal pace for development given the economic climate in Halifax. I really doubt that the Harbour Isle developers thought they would be throwing up these buildings all at once.


Thats probably why they are only selling the Regretta right now. It may take them a long time but i think they'll eventually get it all up.

[Haliguy]

guess we will see who is right on trillium. I say they don't start till late 09, early 2010.

Financing is extremely hard right now, the 50% presold which was typically the case a few months ago will not cut it today. Banks are looking for 60-70% or more now. The same is applied to commercial.

Things will change, eventually, but for the next little while funds are tight.

I would imagine the finacing has already been done on this project and as long as they are doing alright in condo sales I think you will see this project proceed forward. All indications are that they are thus far.

In regards to the Alexander I was speaking to someone who works for the company and all indications are they will be starting next year.

When it comes to office development downtown... If the Waterside wins its appeal I can see that starting next year and if the URB approves the Emera development I can see that starting soon.


I know you try to be realistic but try having some optimism as well.

[kph06]

...if the URB approves the Emera development I can see that starting soon.

I was recently at a one of the local steel fabricators office and the contract is all but awarded by the sounds of things, should be up and going in the near future.

[Jonovision]

I agree with Haliguy and I would add the first phase of Kings Wharf to that list as they have told me it will start next month. Not to mention the Salters Block as well.

I know this is off topic, but I just noticed your avatar pic kph06 and I love it!

[Dmajackson]

So somehow a problem arose with last time the ammendments to the buildings were approved so they are trying again (the ammendments were accepted before but legal problems arose). They have new information out though;

HERE IS A PDF OF THE PROPOSED AMMENDMENTS (http://halifax.ca/commcoun/hecc/documents/081216hecc2.pdf)

And the new hearing is;

Jan. 8, 2009 @ 7:00pm @ Harbour East Coummnity Council

[Dmajackson]

They've finallly fixed up their website so you can view their site plans zoomed in. So the way its working is the four waterfront buildings are the residences and in the back their is the hotel.

[worldlyhaligonian]

So somehow a problem arose with last time the ammendments to the buildings were approved so they are trying again (the ammendments were accepted before but legal problems arose). They have new information out though;

HERE IS A PDF OF THE PROPOSED AMMENDMENTS (http://halifax.ca/commcoun/hecc/documents/081216hecc2.pdf)

And the new hearing is;

Jan. 8, 2009 @ 7:00pm @ Harbour East Coummnity Council

It looks alot like the centennial development except shorter... and there will be 3 of them.

[miesh111]

Harbour Isle’s rocky start

By MICHAEL LIGHTSTONE Staff Reporter
Thu. Jan 8 - 4:46 AM
The website shows an artist’s conception of an ambitious waterfront development and uses descriptive advertising copy with words like "magnificent" and "breathtaking views."

But the $300-million Harbour Isle project in Dartmouth is off to a bit of a rocky start.

That’s because legal staff at Halifax city hall has advised Harbour East community council that part of the existing development agreement with an Ontario firm is not valid.

In August, community council approved a seven-storey condominium building as a component of the mixed-use site.

A Dec. 9 staff report, prepared by senior planner David Lane, says a section of the agreement "is invalid as it is inconsistent with provisions of the Municipal Government Act."

It says proposed changes to the condo building include going up to nine storeys from seven, reducing the number of units to 110 from 135, using a flat roof instead of a pitched one and expanding a planned boardwalk along the edge of Halifax Harbour.

Also, the size of condo units that were originally proposed has shrunk. Some are now as small as 400 or 500 square feet.

"The proposed changes significantly deviate from the comprehensive design of the development as outlined in the existing agreement," says the staff report, approved by planning services manager Austin French.

The report adds that "the developer is also considering the inclusion of additional lands to the site."

The Burnside Park land used to be zoned industrial, but the former property owner, GJR Developments Ltd., went through a three-year process to get it switched to residential.

Five months ago, community council voted unanimously in favour of a seven-storey building to be constructed by the Yorkville Group, an Ontario developer which has acquired the property. The project is part of a multi-phase development the company has proposed for lands near the Dartmouth Yacht Club.

The developer plans to build a mixed-use community that would include a hotel, shops, restaurants, a marina, boardwalks, condos and townhouses.

According to the municipal staff report, changes requested by the developer "must now be considered a substantive change to the agreement" and require a public hearing.

Two sources familiar with the issue said city hall’s lawyers were so concerned about the deal they would not let Mayor Peter Kelly sign the development agreement.

The public hearing is to take place Thursday night at 7 p.m. in the Halifax regional school board building in Dartmouth.

( mlightstone@herald.ca)

[Dmajackson]

Tidbit from the Burnside News this month;

• Harbour Isle, the former Sheppards Island condo development, appears to be running into just as many delays getting off the ground as its predecessor. After a splashy opening event to launch the development, the owners have gone back to HRM asking for a few ‘small’ revisions. The developer wants to increase the size of the first building from seven floors to nine, reduce the total number of units, reduce the footprint of many of the units, switch from a pitched roof to a flat one and expand the harbourside boardwalk. Taken all together, the changes are enough to invalidate parts of the existing development agreement with the city. That means the whole project has to go back into the public consultation process before a revised development agreement can be agreed upon.

[worldlyhaligonian]

Tidbit from the Burnside News this month;

• Harbour Isle, the former Sheppards Island condo development, appears to be running into just as many delays getting off the ground as its predecessor. After a splashy opening event to launch the development, the owners have gone back to HRM asking for a few ‘small’ revisions. The developer wants to increase the size of the first building from seven floors to nine, reduce the total number of units, reduce the footprint of many of the units, switch from a pitched roof to a flat one and expand the harbourside boardwalk. Taken all together, the changes are enough to invalidate parts of the existing development agreement with the city. That means the whole project has to go back into the public consultation process before a revised development agreement can be agreed upon.

I think the redesign will look better. I prefer the towers be 2 stories taller and have a smaller footprint. It will also make the development look more cohesive in terms of height.

[Dmajackson]

I was looking on the website for this development and they've added a couple of things in the Media section.

There's four little brochures on the website and one of them shows a rough sketch of the height of the buildings from a new vantage point and one of them implies the construction might start this month :D

[Wishblade]

I was looking on the website for this development and they've added a couple of things in the Media section.

There's four little brochures on the website and one of them shows a rough sketch of the height of the buildings from a new vantage point and one of them implies the construction might start this month :D

Where do you see that it implies that? I looked and can't find anything.

edit: nevermind I found it lol, I must be blind :P

[Jonovision]

They look nice. But I interpret that as the sales centre will be showing whats to come this month. But who knows. One can always hope we'll see some work soon. :)

[Dmajackson]

There's no construction yet on this project but here are some photos of the lot as it is now. All photos taken by me today;

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3617/3363130359_2667b64dca_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3599/3363131501_97eba86b8c_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3569/3363132609_1c9d1a7d01_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3626/3363951908_18d80a6ac3_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3440/3363952954_58fcff14c2_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3594/3363954024_31c5e6e512_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3541/3363136537_602f354f91_b.jpg

[q12]

Anyone know the current status of this project? Any activity?

[Aya_Akai]

Anyone know the current status of this project? Any activity?

A friend of mine had a few pictures he took the other day... pretty much still looks the same as the pictures above a couple posts up.

[Dmajackson]

Anyone know the current status of this project? Any activity?

I'm by this a few times a week and as of 8 o'clock this morning there is no construciton activity yet.

[Dmajackson]

From the Burnside News:

• Sources are whispering in The Ear that the long anticipated Harbour Isle project may be putting its condominium project on the back burner and proceeding with the commercial aspects of the development first. That would include the smaller retails sites it wants to construct along Windmill Road and the possibility of a small grocery store – a service many Burnsiders have identified as being at the top of their wish list.

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I have noticed a few more commercial properties signs have appeared on Windmill Road related to Harbour Isle so I would say this rumor is most likely true. I also imagine that it is tough to sell high-end condos in an industrial park in this eceonomy anyways.

[DigitalNinja]

I agree with both points

[Wishblade]

the only question is...when???

[Spitfire75]

There's not much on their website anymore. It just says new designs and plans coming in July. So we should be getting some new renderings shortly.

[Dmajackson]

There's not much on their website anymore. It just says new designs and plans coming in July. So we should be getting some new renderings shortly.

The website is now completely down. There isn't even a preview page.

[beyeas]

The website is now completely down. There isn't even a preview page.

This site still seems to work:
http://www.harbourisle.ca/
although there is no info at all on it other than a few general pics and a link for registering to get info.

[Dmajackson]

This site still seems to work:
http://www.harbourisle.ca/
although there is no info at all on it other than a few general pics and a link for registering to get info.

Lol it took over five minutes to load but it finally worked. :P

[Wishblade]

Lol it took over five minutes to load but it finally worked. :P

you must be having computer issues cuz it came up instantly for me :)

[Dmajackson]

Not to my surprise its now August and the website is still under construction claiming it will be up and running in July.

[Jstaleness]

I drove by earlier today and there was a good mining size dump truck on site heading somewhere. I hope that means that they have started infilling of the area to prepare for construction of some kind. Even a 1 storey at this point would be welcomed.

[Dmajackson]

I drove by earlier today and there was a good mining size dump truck on site heading somewhere. I hope that means that they have started infilling of the area to prepare for construction of some kind. Even a 1 storey at this point would be welcomed.

I was also by there earlier and there did appear to be one or two machines parked in the lot.

One thing to note though is trucks have been dumping their loads there for years so it might not be anything, or it could be the start of construction.

[Jstaleness]

Could be. This is the first time I saw trucks of this size though. Lets hope.

[Dmajackson]

I had a look last night and the amount of cleared land has increased dramatically and is stretching quite far down to Wright Ave now.

[Jstaleness]

Yeah, there was lots of dump trucks and excavators onsite this afternoon when I drove by.

[Dmajackson]

I think the lot they are flattening right now is for a grocery store or small strip mall.

[DigitalNinja]

It looked to me like the whole place was being prepped they have been moving around the whole proposed place... Looks promising.

[jasonashhh]

This is moving at quite a fast pace they have it leveled out and they work on it on weekends too rain or shine lets keep this moving.

[Wishblade]

Jeez, who knows, maybe someday in the future the Dartmouth waterfront will actually look more impressive than the Halifax waterfront with these mega projects.

Good to hear this one is going full tilt.

[DigitalNinja]

Yay! Looks good for the development as a whole.

[Jstaleness]

I tried going to the website tonight. Currently Offline. I assume thats a good thing and it is being reworked to include the latest updates and renderings. Exciting!

[FuzzyWuz]

The website is currently offline and you assume that's a good thing? Bless you. You are so positive.

[DigitalNinja]

They have been doing a lot of infilling, so it is a good sign.

[Phalanx]

There's never a need to take a website down for editing/rebuilding. The only time it should go down is if there's an emergency, technical difficulties, or it's dead...

Even if it's being moved anyone who knows anything about web development will just have the old address redirect to the new one.

[someone123]

Based on these sites I'm not sure we should be assuming that developers in the city contract out their web work to people who know what they are doing.. :)

[hoser111]

Just stumbled on this..not positive news(rumor).....

http://www.condosnovascotia.com/blogs/paul_viau/archive/2009/10/28/harbourisle-dartmouth-condo-development-dead-in-water.aspx

[Jstaleness]

Just to bring this thread into 2010. There hasn't been much change since the previous post. I'm still hoping that maybe sales were slow and possibly causing delays. IMO though with Kings Wharf already starting construction, I do not believe that Dartmouth is able to support 2 new developments of this caliper this soon.

[Dmajackson]

Just to bring this thread into 2010. There hasn't been much change since the previous post. I'm still hoping that maybe sales were slow and possibly causing delays. IMO though with Kings Wharf already starting construction, I do not believe that Dartmouth is able to support 2 new developments of this caliper this soon.

To be perfectly honest I'm kind of glad this isn't going along. As you mentioned Dartmouth's too small for two large projects and if I had to choose where they were going to be built an industrial park would not be at the top of my list.

I don't even know why they would think they could sell high-class condos on the lot. Sure it has a waterfront but its right off of the busiest street in HRM, its surrounded by industrial/commercial uses, there's no schools, parks or grocery stores nearby, and the views are horrible for a waterfront location (red ship, marina, and the gypsum mine).