The Great Metro Vancouver Crane Count

[raggedy13]

So, due to some Calgary crane-number bragging in the Tower Crane Panoramas thread in the Canada sub-forum, I thought it might be fun to try keeping a tally of current cranes up in the city ;) . Perhaps this is a stupid idea as cranes seem to go up and come down practically on a daily basis around here but what the heck. And any administrators can feel free to move this thread to a more appropriate sub-forum... and if there is little popular support for this thread then feel free to delete it!

I think the best way for this to work is for me to maintain/edit the list in this first post and add to it as you all post new info. If you have any recent pictures of the cranes as proof, I suppose that would be ideal. And I'll only add to the list if you're 100% sure there is currently a crane where (at which development) you say there is one.

And these cranes can include developments from condos, bridges, transit lines, etc.

So, to get the ball rolling, I'll start with this great list started by our own SFUVancouver:

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Metro Total = 128 confirmed / 130 potential
(light cranes not included)


Vancouver = 71 confirmed
Denman & Davie condos: 1
Robson St. Safeway: 1
Ritz: 1
Coast Hotel: 1
Shangri-La: 1
Patina: 2
Dolce & Vita: 2
Capitol Residences: 1
Donovan: 1
TV Towers: 2
Espana: 3
Woodwards: 4
33 Pender: 1
Ginger: 1
East: 1
Richards St. Social Housing: 1
Erickson: 1
Millennium Water (Olympic Village): 11
Foundry: 1
Onni 21 Living: 1
Atelier: 1
CBC renos: 1
Beatty Bldg: 1
Zone: 1
Camera: 1
Mantra: 1
Cross Roads: 1
Broadway City Hall stn: 1
Canada Line btwn Olympic Village and 12th ave: 2
School on Great Northern Way: 1
Lofts off of 2nd and main: 1
Trout Lake Olympic Training Venue: 1
Fairmont Pacific Rim: 2
Vancouver Convention Centre Expansion: 1
Vancouver Community College expansion: 1
First: 1
Canada Line 41st Station: 1
Canada Line 49th Station: 1
41st & Elm(?): 1
Hastings and Slocan(?): 1
Queen Elizabeth theater: 1
Yaletown brew-pub addition: 1
Yaletown infill condo on Homer(?): 1
Powell and Main: 1
Columbia and Hastings: 1
Paris Place: 1
The Garage: 1
Pulse: 1
39th & Vine: 1
Smart: 1
Aquarium: 1

UBC = 2 confirmed
Wesbrook Place: 1
Engineering(?) building: 1

Burnaby = 13 confirmed / 14 potential
UniverCity at SFU: 2
Citi & Motif: 2
Brentwood Gate: 2
Silhouette: 2 (3?)
Building(?) behind Lougheed Mall: 3
Esprit:2
Axis:1
Discovery Place Tech Park: 1

Richmond = 8 confirmed
River Rock Casino Expansion/Park & Ride: 2
Prado: 2
Opal Living: 1
Centro: 2
Canada Line YVR Station: 1

City of North Vancouver = 4 confirmed
Vista Place: 2
The Pier: 2

Surrey = 8 confirmed
Agenda: 1
City Point: 1
Infinity: 2
Access: 1
104th and something: 1
The Morgan: 2

Coquitlam = 4 confirmed / 5 potential
Westwood village: 3
Levo: 1 (2?)

New Westminster = 5 confirmed
Plaza 88: 3
Q: 1
Carlyle (Victoria Hill): 1

Langley = 3 confirmed
200th Street Business Plaza: 2
Langley Events Centre:1

Port Moody = 2 confirmed
Suter Brook: 2

White Rock = 2 confirmed
Miramar Village: 2

*Intercity* = 4 confirmed
Golden Ears Bridge: 4

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Metro Light Crane Count: 5 confirmed


Vancouver = 1 confirmed
Hastings and Cassiar: 1

Richmond = 4 confirmed
Merry Park Living (SW corner of Buswell & Westminster Hwy): 1
Meridian Gate (Odlin Rd, just west of Garden City Rd): 2
Unknown condo development (NE corner of Cooney Rd & Granville Rd.): 1

[Smooth]

There are/were a whole bunch at the Seymour Water Filtration Plant in North Vancouver. I haven't been up there for a while so I'm not sure how many there currently are.

[raggedy13]

^I don't think they're still around though I could be wrong.

I found a photo of the cranes there on flickr.com but it was uploaded in 2005 so I'm guessing they're down by now: http://www.flickr.com/photos/43517501@N00/33815597/

The GVRD website says that everything but the tunnel access shafts are completed:
http://www.gvrd.bc.ca/water/SCWUP-cap-filtration.htm

[bils]

Richmond

River Rock Casino Expansion - 2
Prado - 2
Opal Living - 1
Garden City Living - 1
Centro - 2
Mandalay - 1 (2?)

YVR???

[joeblowurho]

There is 2 at the bridgeport station park and ride being built. 1 on 41st between Dunbar and East Boulevard ( I think its Elm Street). 1 at the YVR Canada line station. Also 1 each at 41st and Cambie and at 49th and Cambie which were there earlier this month, I assume there still there. Also there is another one at UBC near the engineering area, but forgot the name of the building. There is at least 1 at Wesbrook Place at UBC.

[raggedy13]

Thanks bils and joeblowurho! List updated.

They're really starting to add up now.:tup:

[crazyjoeda]

There are two in South Surrey at The Morgan.

[raggedy13]

^Thanks, list updated. By the way, is 'The Morgan' the same thing as Morgan Crossing?

[worldwide]

theres one at hastings and somewhere near slocan, just east of nanaimo.

3 at that building behind lougheed mall.

at least 2 in downtown new west

i'll keep my eye out when im on my rounds and try to find out the names of the projects too.

[SFUVancouver]

Thanks for getting the thread up and running raggedy13.

Langley
200th Street Business Plaza - 2

Burnaby
Citi & Motif - 2 (confirmed on Tuesday)

[excel]

4 for golden ears bridge.

[vanman]

Raggedy you'll have to remove Highgate from the list as there is no crane at the site anymore.

Burnaby

Esprit:2
Axis:1

New West

Plaza 88:3 (unless the one for Azure has been taken down as the building has topped out, 2 minimum)
Q:1

Coquitlam

Westwood village:3
Levo:minimum 1 but I think I remember 2 the last time I was in Coquitlam

Port Moody must have at least 2 cranes up but I'm not sure.

[raggedy13]

Thanks for all the contributions everybody.

Latest Updates:

-Hastings & Slocan-ish area crane added
-3 at "that building behind lougheed mall" (anybody know more about the name of this project?)
-2 at 200th Street Business Plaza (Langley) added
-2 at Citi & Motif (Burnaby) added
-4 at Golden Ears Bridge added
-Highgate (Burnaby) removed
-2 at Esprit & 1 at Axis (Burnaby) added
-1 extra added to Plaza 88 (New West), possible 3rd crane considered
-1 at Q (New West) added
-3 at Westwood Village (Coquitlam) added
-1 at Levo (Coquitlam) added, possible 2nd considered

Grand Total now at 118. :cheers:

[Delirium]

great list raggedy13!

the crane at raffles came down some time ago so that can be removed.
but you can add one for the Queen Elizabeth theater, that 2 storey addition to the Yaletown brewery pub building and there's one for that small infill condo on homer in yaletown (can't remember the name).

[vanlaw]

There is one more in Langley for the new Events Centre (arena, exhibitions etc) SE of 200th/80th

[LeftCoaster]

There is another random crane sort of in the Brentwood area, but south of Highway 1 on canada way... I dont think that one was counted.

Expect among the many new ones several cranes at the Evelyn Drive site in West Vancouver... I should walk down the street and snap some pics of that soon, it is starting to come along as they ahve finished most of the grading and foundation work is commencing/ongoing.

[excel]

great list raggady and sfu! well done. lots of cranes!

[vanman]

I can confirm the two cranes in Port Moody from the Suter Brook webcam:

(I never truly realised how huge Suter Brook really is. It's basically the size of Highgate)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/aria-cam.jpg

[Jacques]

Project on Powell and Main street Crane 1
Project on Columbia and Hasting Crane 1
Project Paris place Hasting between Carrall and Abbott Crane 1
Project on water street "the Garage " Crane 1

[LeftCoaster]

I can't believe there are only 8 in Surrey... there is going to be a huge jump soon.

[bils]

Corrections for Richmond

1) River Rock Casino Expansion is the same as Bridgeport Park 'n Ride, and the total for this site is 2 cranes
2) Delete: Mandalay (1-2) & Garden City Living (1) - all of those cranes are no longer there.

Do 'light' cranes count? i.e., those used along Canada Line, or for low-rise developments?
If so, add:

Merry Park Living (SW corner of Buswell & Westminster Hwy) - 1
Meridian Gate (Odlin Rd, just west of Garden City Rd) - 2
Unknown condo development (NE corner of Cooney Rd & Granville Rd.) - 1

[LeftCoaster]

No, light cranes shouldnt count... there are just waaaay to many.

There are probably a dozen alone here in West Vancouver building single family homes.

[raggedy13]

Thanks everybody!

Update:
-Raffles removed
-Mandalay & Garden City Living (Richmond) removed
-River Rock Casino Expansion & Bridgeport Park & Ride error fixed/projects consolidated
-All the above mentioned added
-Potential count added

I guess we'll avoid light cranes... so if any of the previous cranes mentioned are light cranes, let me know and I can either remove them or create a light cranes sub-section to the list.

Update:
-Temorary(?) light cranes sub-section added - with bils mentioned projects

[vanman]

You can add another crane to Plaza 88 in New West. I drove past the site today and there are definitely 3 up.

[bils]

can someone post an image of what a 'light crane' is? i just used that term loosely to describe what i think it looks like. what i'm thinking of is something that looks like a leaner version of a typical crane, not attached to a vehicle or anything.

[raggedy13]

^I'm not all that sure. I think I have the same kind of idea as you but I'm not sure about specific terminology or anything.

Plaza 88 updated.

[mersar]

can someone post an image of what a 'light crane' is? i just used that term loosely to describe what i think it looks like. what i'm thinking of is something that looks like a leaner version of a typical crane, not attached to a vehicle or anything.

Assuming you're going by the same definition that we use for the Calgary count, similar to the one in this shot by Surrealplaces:

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/5614/000xu2.jpg

Generally defined as having a non permantent base (usually anchored by several large weights instead of into poured concrete) and a really small frame with no cab on the top. We've counted proper tower cranes with cabs on the tower that aren't into poured cement in Calgary's count, as we've had 2 now (one that was on the roof of an existing building for an expansion, and another thats currently at the Bow site)

[Bert]

Burnaby = 16 confirmed / 18 potential
Silhouette: 2 (3?)
Building(?) behind Lougheed Mall: 3
Possible double counting here? Also, Citi and Motif were counted twice on that list as well (SFUVancouver said there's 2 cranes total there).

Brentwood south of Highway 1 on canada way(?): 1This is the latest phase of the Discovery Place tech park (http://www.city.burnaby.bc.ca/business/centres/dscvry.html).

[bils]

Generally defined as having a non permantent base (usually anchored by several large weights instead of into poured concrete) and a really small frame with no cab on the top. We've counted proper tower cranes with cabs on the tower that aren't into poured cement in Calgary's count, as we've had 2 now (one that was on the roof of an existing building for an expansion, and another thats currently at the Bow site)

thanks for the clarification, and yes, that's what i had meant by 'light crane'. so what's the verdict, are we counting these or not?

[SFUVancouver]

My take on it is that those potain cranes should count. In some projects they are taking the place of mobile cranes, which wouldn't count, but in many others they are surely taking the place of fixed tower cranes.

For example this one out at the airport is certainly in lieu of a tower crane:

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7385/yvrcanadalinestnapril16mk6.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) My photo, taken April 16th, 2008.


Also, Crossroads is down to one crane.

[worldwide]

theres a light crane at hastings and cassiar building a low rise condo

[raggedy13]

^Light crane added.

1 Crossroads crane removed.

Possible double counting here? Also, Citi and Motif were counted twice on that list as well (SFUVancouver said there's 2 cranes total there).

This is the latest phase of the Discovery Place tech park (http://www.city.burnaby.bc.ca/business/centres/dscvry.html).

Thanks, issues fixed. But I'll need someone to guarantee that Silhouette is the "Building(?) behind Lougheed Mall" before I'm willing to change it. You're probably right but I don't know enough about the area to make a decision on "possible" double counting I'm afraid.

[raggedy13]

My take on it is that those potain cranes should count. In some projects they are taking the place of mobile cranes, which wouldn't count, but in many others they are surely taking the place of fixed tower cranes.

For example this one out at the airport is certainly in lieu of a tower crane:

I have a tendency to agree with SFUVancouver as he comes across as pretty brilliant much of the time, so I'm happy to count potain cranes used in lieu of a tower crane, but how do we go about determining which ones are in lieu of mobile vs. fixed tower cranes? Is it generally fairly obvious?

[SFUVancouver]

^ Aw shucks...

I think that Potain (light) cranes are fixed enough to count as tower cranes since they are regularly called upon for months of service from a fixed location. The fact that they are not embedded in concrete should not be the defining criteria. If so, the tower cranes that laboured on the new Convention Centre wouldn't count either since they were on rails, if I'm not mistaken.

I draw the line at including mobile wheeled cranes and those monsters that erect tower cranes and luff HVAC stuff to roofs.

Interestingly enough the steel-frame Lake City Way office building was built without either a tower or a potain crane. Since it is located above the bus loop they had a nice firm, level concrete pad to work with and the limited six storey height of the building lent itself well to mobile cranes.

[Bert]

Thanks, issues fixed. But I'll need someone to guarantee that Silhouette is the "Building(?) behind Lougheed Mall" before I'm willing to change it. You're probably right but I don't know enough about the area to make a decision on "possible" double counting I'm afraid.OK.

Worldwide, Silhouette is the development going up right beside Walmart. Is that the "building behind Lougheed Mall" you mean?

[subdude]

Patina has 2 cranes. Second one went up in Feb.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=138044&page=2

[agrant]

Don't forget some of the projects on the west side, like Pulse.

Interestingly enough the steel-frame Lake City Way office building was built without either a tower or a potain crane. Since it is located above the bus loop they had a nice firm, level concrete pad to work with and the limited six storey height of the building lent itself well to mobile cranes.Yea. I've been working there for the past couple months doing the heating. Pretty amazing how one mobile crane can do so much work, and how essential it is to the project. It's a completely different deal for the crane operator, working from the ground rather than overhead.

[radacal]

there's a crane at the condo tower at 39th and vine, vancouver.

the vcc crane will be down at the end of the month.

[Smooth]

The crane at Centre Point in Burnaby is now down.

[zivan56]

I was working on something which could potentially help keep track of construction (and cranes as a side effect):
link (http://vancouver.iwdstudio.com/)
Not much listed so far, but I just started working on it tonight.
Any thoughts? Will try to make an "add" page soon.

[twoNeurons]

Are we counting Sandhill Cranes? There's a couple at the Greater Vancouver Zoo. :D
http://www.anthroblogs.org/nomadicthoughts/archives/Sandhill-Crane.jpg

[raggedy13]

^What are sandhill cranes like? EDIT: I see... :haha:

Updates:
-1 more Patina crane added
-Pulse added
-39th & Vine added
-Centerpoint removed

And I'm still not exactly sure what to do with the light crane thing. I know some of the ones in the main list are those Potain/light cranes so I'll have to do something about that.

I think I'll keep/move the Potain cranes used in lieu of fixed tower cranes in/to the main list but put an asterisk beside them and then other light cranes can go in a separate list. I don't feel like doing it right now though. :D

[Bert]

Burnaby = 14 confirmed / 16 potential
Brentwood Gate: 3 (4?)
I just went by today. There's only 2 at Brentwood Gate at the moment.

[vanman]

There is a crane up at the Carlyle (Victoria Hill) in New West.

[SFUVancouver]

I don't know the name of the project but there is a proper tower crane on Cordova in the DTES around Main. I'm assuming it is social housing.

[LeftCoaster]

Vista place in NV has 2, I just drove by there yesterday. Ill take a better count of the area soon, as I think there might be some more. Nothing in West Van currently, but a ton of light cranes for single family houses, they are not the anchored variety though so they definetely shouldn't count.

[jlousa]

SFUVan,

If you're talking about the crane behind the no. 5 Orange at Cordova and Main that is a project called SMART by Concord Pacific, it's market housing. Sold out in the opening weekend. :tup:

[SFUVancouver]

So that's where Smart is located. Thank you. I never could place it in my head.

[worldwide]

did the crane at the aquarium get counted?

[raggedy13]

^It did now.

Along with these updates:

-Brentwood Gate decreased to 2 cranes
-Carlyle (Victoria Hill) crane added
-Smart crane added
-Vista Place increased to 2 cranes (I'm assuming that was was down in the list as "Vista" is the same as "Vista Place")

Thanks for all your input everybody!

[radacal]

crane at the aquarium? if it was the one for the education centre, that's been taken down for a while. as the design for the next phase hasn't started, i doubt there would be a crane for that.

the crane at vcc should have been taken down by now.

there's a crane at crofton house on west 41st at blenheim.

[excel]

There is a crane at crofton house school at 41st and blenheim.

[Mike K.]

There's a crane on Hwy 10 just west of 152nd in Surrey. It's a tower crane but being used to build an office park.

[LeftCoaster]

Dont know if anyone still cares but driving down the #1 yesterday I saw a new crane being assembled behind the 8rinks in Burnaby. Dont know what it is for but I saw some site work being done there about a month ago and it looks like they are building some sort of high square footage low rise.