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[10023]

Hi -

Just wondering if any locals could let me know when they'd recommend visiting. I'd like to spend some time in Buenos Aires, obviously, but also spend some time touring the country to the south. I would assume that June-August can be quite cold in much of the country, but how late in the year does one need to wait to expect sun and comfortable temperatures in most of the lower altitude parts of the country?

Thanks.

[zoomboyba]

well, that would be now: April - March. Its not to dam hot (100f) niether to cold (20f)......and also by this time It doesnt rain that much.

[10023]

well, that would be now: April - March. Its not to dam hot (100f) niether to cold (20f)......and also by this time It doesnt rain that much.

Well I had assumed as much -- but given that I can't get up and go tomorrow, would the fall (September/October) be similar? I also know that September is the wine harvest so theoretically it would be a good time to visit some wineries and enjoy a good Malbec or six.

I'd like to spend a few days in Buenos Aires and then travel the country to whatever regions people recommend.

[zoomboyba]

yeap, September would be spring here (south hemisphere)....and yes, that's an excelent time to visit us.

[10023]

Ok, well I'm back again. Now looking at late October for a trip of 10-14 days.

Thinking I'd like to do some combination of the following:

- Buenos Aires for ~4 days (this one definitely)

- Mendoza (to tour a winery or 3... I love wine)

- Bariloche (will be after ski season, but I'm sure there's plenty to do in spring/summer also)

- Ushuaia (assume it's cold but not freezing by then)

- Punta del Este (in Uruguay, but I've heard ferry across the Rio de la Plata is easy)

- Iguazu Falls (perhaps too warm by this time of year?)


Obviously can't visit all of these things, but anyone have thoughts on which are most worth doing, ease of transport, whether this is a good time of year to visit, general tips, etc? I've got a friend moving from New York to BA in July, so hopefully by the time I go he'll be in the know, but will need to plan a trip before that.

[bbeliko]

here's everything you need to know about the ferries to uruguay:Buquebus (http://www.buquebus.com/BQBWeb/servlet/com.buquebus.web.ArmaOfertasPrincipalEng)

[ronnyfv]

Really interesting :)

[Trantor]

well, if visiting Punta Del Este, I would suggest also visiting Montevideo.
Just dont go to Argentina in the summer. Half of its population will be in brazilian beaches, the other half will be in Mar Del Plata. The rest will be empty :)

just remember that many of these locations you plan to visit are QUITE FAR from each other.

I measured in GoogleEarth... by following your itinerary in that same sequence of cities, you would travel 7,100 km just inside Argentina (and a bit of Uruguay too)

[verticalextropy]

Buenos Aires is an year around city, only in January it's kinda empty, and in February just too hot.
If you wanna ski in the Andes then Winter's fine, but otherwise it's nice in different ways all year round. Just don't visit the north of the country (like Iguazu falls) during the summer unless you're looking for heat stroke.

If you come to B.A. you should take a short trip to Colonia or Montevideo. Punta del Este is also a must see, the pearl of the atlantic, the exception of latin america. If you go to Punta on summer you'lll see high prices, lots of bikinis and crowded streets. If you go on mid station (winter's too cold) you'll see one of the most beautiful cities on earth, a perfect combination of urbanism and nature.
My sketchup city is based off Punta del Este's terrain, if you wanna take a look.
Definitely come to Argentina, you'll get a fantastic exchange rate for your dollar, fine meat, and a lots of surprises.

[Trantor]

Punta del Este is also a must see, the pearl of the atlantic, the exception of latin america.

what the hell "the exception of latin america" is supposed to mean?

[bbeliko]

what the hell "the exception of latin america" is supposed to mean?
that means he hasn't been to Rio:D

[verticalextropy]

No, unfortunately I haven't been to Rio, and I don't know why that city would be the exception of Latin America.

My point is that Punta del Este, and Colonia are the SAFEST populated places in Latin America, and Punta del Este in particular is quiet a special city.

Trantor neither of us are Uruguayans so... what's the resentment about? You think I'm a snobb for liking Punta? Well you'd be surprised, if you ever come to B.A. I'll be glad to show you what kind of guy I am along with the city which I know you know. :)

[Trantor]

the entire Uruguay is safe.


you still havent explained why you think Punta Del Este is an "exception" in Latin America. For safety reasons? There are many small safe cities even in Brazil. And Punta is not really big.

For being very rich? There are similar coastal cities in Brazil for mega rich people, where Ferraris are more common than VWs. Im sure there might be a few in Argentina and Chile too.

[verticalextropy]

Not all of Uruguay is safe, I don't think you'd feel too safe in Canelones, or Cerro in Montevideo.

Punta del Este is quiet a special city, I have no doubt that Brasil is far richer, prosperous and grandious than any other country in Latin America, but that's not the point.

Punta is the only place where a Mercedes can ride into a Horse-cart, and there would be no resentment between the two. It's not only safe, there is no potentiallity for it being unsafe.

YEah there are safe places in Argentina, like Tierra del Fuego, but it's not the same thing.
I might not be the snobb, but I understand that when the international jet sets doesn't go to Miami or St Moritz, they go to Punta del ESte. Just last January I saw Paul Allen's megayatch "Octopus", while hearing Naomi Campbell was on the beach at Chihuahua. And still you can go to have dinner in Maldonado at a more than reasonable price. It's certainly a unique place.

Why is it the exception? Well, no trash on the streets, no misery, no need for fences or to lock your door, no social resentment. I'm sure there must be a couple of similar towns in the southern cone but not nearly as dense popular or attractive as Punta del Este.

About your mega-rich resorts in Brasil: How many layers of barbed wire fences do they require?

[verticalextropy]

There's another exception: land value has been exploding with no burst of the bubble in sight. It's not only an exception, it's a mistery.

[verticalextropy]

MY theory: since both Argentina and Brasil are rich but heavilly regulated kleptocracies, and since Uruguay has a standard of Banking Privacy that would ashame Switzerland, much of these countries wealth is drained to Uruguay - for protection.

[verticalextropy]

OK, this is what makes Punta the exception of Latin America:
in no other place of the continent you've got Sea Lions suntanning in other people's yatchs! :haha:

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/234/sealionpuntabz7.png

[10023]

I've heard Punta is sort of the Hamptons for BA/Montevideo, which sounds up my alley.

Will be at a going away party Saturday for an acquaintance who's moving to BA in 2 weeks. Gotta figure out what his plans are down there (he works in private equity here in NYC, probably doing the same there). BA sounds great -- one can buy an apartment in Recoleta for 1/4 what the place would cost here, so if an American banker or has managed to scrape half a million dollars together, one can buy a nice place and relax, just working to earn money for living expenses. I could see myself doing that someday... consider this trip a "trial run".

[verticalextropy]

I've heard Punta is sort of the Hamptons for BA/Montevideo, which sounds up my alley.

Will be at a going away party Saturday for an acquaintance who's moving to BA in 2 weeks. Gotta figure out what his plans are down there (he works in private equity here in NYC, probably doing the same there). BA sounds great -- one can buy an apartment in Recoleta for 1/4 what the place would cost here, so if an American banker or has managed to scrape half a million dollars together, one can buy a nice place and relax, just working to earn money for living expenses. I could see myself doing that someday... consider this trip a "trial run".

Yes, it is quiet literally B.A.'s Hamptons!

B.A. is a fantastic buzzling, fantastic city, buy its got its downsides. The folks at International Living call it "Europe at 1/4 the price", well....that's a little far fetched.

Some people live in Colonia, Uruguay 30 mins fast ferry to downtown B.A. only that it is the safest district in the content.

Many more people have a place in B.A. and another in Punta del Este, which if they rent every January or mid December, pays for itself in maybe a decade (there's a shortage of hotels in Punta, and its 100K year-round population soars to more than a million every Summer).

When considering B.A. it's better to think of the River Plate in general.

Regards,

Matt

[verticalextropy]

Typical Sunset at Potezuelo Bay
http://lh6.ggpht.com/hevmat/SGSZ8dAcDLI/AAAAAAAABbM/Teek4NByeOI/semanasanta%20350.jpg?imgmax=800

Luxury yatchs and Fishing boats
http://lh6.ggpht.com/hevmat/SGRyr97i_RI/AAAAAAAAA2Y/YcEtNONJme0/semanasanta%20805.jpg?imgmax=800

[Kingofthehill]

I'm looking to move to Buenos Aires next year around June 25-September 25.

What are the bare essentials?

[Pablozar]

Chicos alguno que tenga información para darle a King?
Yo no tengo idea de valores de costo de vida en Baires.

King: wait for someone living at BA to answer your questions. Sadly I can't help since I'm living rather far from my country now.

[IvanKarpov]

Hello,
I don't know a lot about the cost of living in BA but I have my personal experience for a middle class living. Coming from abroad you may have more wealth and could go a little higger, anyway, I think my experience may be good as a sample of how to live well with minimun expences :haha:
I'm renting a 48m2 department for 1000 pesos every month, I have low mantaeinance in the building becaus it has no elevator and no other fascilities. It is located in Almagro, which is a god location, is close to the subway and many bus lines.
So I calculate you can live very confortable for just 3000 pesos every month. If you have more then you can think about rising your level and going for a bigger department or to a more exclusive zone like Palermo o Recoleta (I don't know how much this can cost but I'm sure that someone here will tell you).
I hope you find this information useful.

[Claudia-Cba]

:previous: Your English is better than your Spanish, Ivan... :haha: :justkidding:

Love Pandora!!! Beautiful cat, King... ;)

[IvanKarpov]

:previous: Your English is better than your Spanish, Ivan... :haha: :justkidding:

Love Pandora!!! Beautiful cat, King... ;)

:haha: :haha: :haha: :tup:
Thank you! And I was thinking, while writing, "my god, this is a mess, there must be millons of mistakes" jajajaja.
Now I have to work a little bit to improve my spanish (or move to another country jajaj)

[Pablozar]

From now on Ivan posts in english. Problem is that Marxista will make it in russian.

[IvanKarpov]

:previous:
:haha: And then he will proclaim the revolution here in SSP.
If anybody need translations just callme :tup:

[Claudia-Cba]

:previous: :lmao::lmao:



...and Laizard starts writing in Arabic... !!!! :omg:

[Laizard]

From now on Ivan posts in english. Problem is that Marxista will make it in russian.

Komsomol Pavel!!!!!

[Kingofthehill]

:previous: Your English is better than your Spanish, Ivan... :haha: :justkidding:

Love Pandora!!! Beautiful cat, King... ;)
Awww thanks!

You saw my blog? What's you think? I'm curious to as to what an Argentine thinks of me blog :cheers:

[Claudia-Cba]

Awww thanks!

You saw my blog? What's you think? I'm curious to as to what an Argentine thinks of me blog :cheers:


This Argentine thinks you're a great photographer, King!!!!! :tup:

Your portraits of people are so cool...;) I like your urban pics as well :yes:

Nice dreadlocks, btw!!! :D

[SottoVoce]

King, If you're planning a short term stay, let's say 2/3 months, you better go for a temporary furbished apartment rent, It will cost you about 700/1500 dollars a month depending on the size/location. Check this page (http://www.bairesapartments.com/)for info.