Vancouver future render thread

[sono65]

I figured we were badly in need of one of these, and since I've been posting the odd render these days, thought we might as well have a specific thread for it.

I'll start her off with another quick one I did tonight using an image posted by Raggedy a while back. I've probably got some of the spacing wrong again on a few of the towers, so critiques are quite welcome. I've got Shangri-La, Hotel Georgia, Ritz Carlton, and Patina sitting in there.

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6302/vancouverrenderbm0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[vanman]

Shit that is awesome, thanks!

[Cambridgite]

It looks like Vanhattan. :)

[sono65]

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/4770/comp1hh7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Another one I did the other day, with incorrect spacing between Shangri-La and Ritz. Still kinda cool.

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/885/compev8mp5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Another one I did from the numinous cam at night.

[Jacques]

WOW like the rendering very true to scale, It is amusing because this is the same photos that adorn my MAC screen as wallpaper, now I can add this one from such a professional photographer

[jlousa]

Love the first one, could you add Capitol to it as well, I think even Woodwards will be visible in that shot, along with probably a dozen of other projects going up in d/t south, although they probably wouldn't change the look much. We should have someone take a picture from that same vantage point every 4 months or at least every year and watch the changes.

[sono65]

^ Sure can, is it possible for someone with a better sense the project locations to maybe point out in red on that photo where approx. each site is???

[Hong Kongese]

Awesome picture! everything on the first one is almost perfect except Hotel
Georgia is a little bit too tall than what it suppost to be. The Capitol should
be in between the Scotia Tower and the Patina and its height should be
roughly the same as the T.D tower. I don't think the Woodwards will be
visible from this angle.

[jlousa]

Not postive with Woodwards regarding that angle, but it possible it would fall between catherdal place and the royal bank tower.

[raggedy13]

Great job sono65. If I were to say anything needs to be altered, it would just be that the Hotel Georgia tower should probably be a bit more to the left (about in line with the Hotel Vancouver/Cathedral Place) and maybe a bit shorter since it'll be at a slightly lower elevation than One Wall Centre, so maybe it will look the same height as One Wall? Even still, the rendering gives a good idea and looks great.

[Cypherus]

Great rendering. It really puts Vancouver into perspective as a small-scale Manhatten in 2011.

[excel]

Great job, thanks.

[Smooth]

Looks great. On the first picture you'd also see the Fairmont Pacific Rim just to the right of the Shaw tower. It would pretty much be the exact same height as the Shaw tower (a copy/paste of the Shaw tower is all that would be needed).

[Canadian Mind]

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p123/Canadian_Mind/vancouverrenderbm0.jpg

Black is where Fairmont Pac Rim should be, green is what little of Woodwards you'd see (maybe a bit taller), light blue is where Hotel Georgia should be, and dark blue is where capitol should be. hope that helps as a bit of a guide. I don't really know what other significant projects there are at the moment.

[LeftCoaster]

:koko: I thought that building next to the light blue was already the hotel georgia...

[raggedy13]

^I think he's just trying to point out where it should be.

Maybe this helps...

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g296/raggedy13/hgsat.jpg

[LeftCoaster]

Oops, thats totally what he meant.

My bad.

[johnjimbc]

I would not at all think my judgment would be better than the others who already commented. But the more I looked at the above suggestions, the more I thought that Cap Residences would be a smidgen, a very defined term :) , more to the right of where currently shown.

Possibly?

[sono65]

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3357/vanrendreviseyn3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3357/vanrendreviseyn3.04aa40e5b7.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=517&i=vanrendreviseyn3.jpg)
Revised version including Shangri-La, Ritz Carlton, Fairmont Pacific Rim, Hotel Georgia, Patina, Capitol and Woodwards peaking through. Thanks guys for the
help on locations etc.

Thought this one deserves a repost as well.
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4781/futurevanrz7ec5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[raggedy13]

^Awesome revision, thanks for going to the trouble of doing that. :cheers:

[Canadian Mind]

Crazy man, thanks a bunch! :)

[excel]

Great work, thanks.

[Aylmer]

Vancoucer has such a cityscape...

:)

[phesto]

Thanks for the renders.

Interesting to see how things are turning out compared to what the City envisioned with the skyline study 11 years ago...here's a comparison:

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4781/futurevanrz7ec5.jpg

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1673/recczg0.jpg
note they had originally envisioned a 600' tower proposal to replace the Burrard Building before any tower where the Ritz is going.

[Canadian Mind]

Should save the Burrard Building for something massive, long after other large 600+ towers fill in that area.

[Cypherus]

Thanks for the revision, sono65. The rendering looks very professional, in that it looks like the real skyline during 2011.

[officedweller]

Nice, thanks!

[Yume-sama]

That's a beautiful render, I've been trying to count how many buildings aren't real... yet :P It's not that easy!

[craner]

It looks like Vanhattan. :)

It sure does. Job well done :tup:

[sono65]

^^Thanks dudes. I'll try to pump a few more out from various angles.

[bils]

don't mean to spam but i figured this would be the right place for this render as well

http://www.bilsproductions.com/shangrila.jpg

[Canadian Mind]

would RC Vancouver be visible from that angle?

[Cypherus]

Edit: Here is a 2012 version of downtown Vancouver, giving some lead time for new towers to be 100% completed:

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2787/vancouver2011kp8.jpg

Also added the convention center and updated Jameson Tower.

[mr.x]

^ why 2012? you should add the convention centre. nice work!

[sono65]

Was home sick and bored on a Saturday afternoon so I decided to finish off Shangri-la for us from a fantastic photo posted earlier in the Shangri-la thread.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4374/shangrendsy9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4374/shangrendsy9.317d23f6ac.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=510&i=shangrendsy9.jpg)

[squeezied]

very seamless

[CosmoDog]

Nice work Sono65. I thought, why not see what it would look like a little taller.http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shangrilasupertallyu7.jpghttp://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shangrilasupertallyu7.jpg

[CosmoDog]

Sorry. Tried to post an image, but forgot how to do it.
Tips anyone?

[hollywoodnorth]

nice one Sono65 :)

[worldwide]

Sorry. Tried to post an image, but forgot how to do it.
Tips anyone?

if its a url then just use [IMG...] and [/IMG...] but without the dots. paste your url between them.

if its a file on your computer upload it to photobucket or a similar site

[Phazed]

-found these over from SSC, created by DLeung; not sure if you guys have seen them, but I thought these definitely deserved a post

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2899/81709992yi6.jpg

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/5498/p1060384ja8bno9.jpg

don't know about you guys but these look pretty damn close to world-class to me; not exactly thrilled about the design of Fairmont, but its shape really complements the skyline imo

[ckkelley]

^^
Wow! Looks pretty sweet to me as well.

[excel]

the first one is quite impressive, thanks for the post.

[amac]

Yeah, it LOOKS world-class, but Vancouver is decades away from being anything near world class. A few tall condos does not make this sleepy costal town world class, it makes it a big Whistler. Vancouver has no culture and no substance, it's the blonde bimbo of Canada.

[Cypherus]

Yeah, it LOOKS world-class, but Vancouver is decades away from being anything near world class. A few tall condos does not make this sleepy costal town world class, it makes it a big Whistler. Vancouver has no culture and no substance, it's the blonde bimbo of Canada.

Ouch.

[Hed Kandi]

Yeah, it LOOKS world-class, but Vancouver is decades away from being anything near world class. A few tall condos does not make this sleepy costal town world class, it makes it a big Whistler. Vancouver has no culture and no substance, it's the blonde bimbo of Canada.

The Olympics might just serve as the paradigm shift that this city needs.

[duener]

Yeah, it LOOKS world-class, but Vancouver is decades away from being anything near world class. A few tall condos does not make this sleepy costal town world class, it makes it a big Whistler. Vancouver has no culture and no substance, it's the blonde bimbo of Canada.

This "world class" talk reminds me of when I lived in Ontario in the 90s. There was always soul-wrenching talk about whether Toronto was "world class" yet. But it' such a vague term... on the restaurant front though I think Vancouver is easily among the best. You're more likely to get decent food in a random restaurant in Van than most cities.

I've thought that too about it being a bimbo city. It would great if there were some major anchor companies like Seattle has, rather than just an economy based on real estate and weed. I'll never understand why Vancouverites are so proud of the city to show off to foreigners and about rich people moving there.... the city should be for the local people with good paying jobs for locals and affordable real estate... instead it all seems a bit like prostitution.

[Denscity]

No city in which nearly everyone wants to live could ever be affordable to everyone. Demand pushes the price up out of many's reach.

[vansky]

No man, the world class is in the east, either the east east of here, or the east west of here. This is a world class joke.:haha:

[jlousa]

Bingo,
We can reduce prices by making the city less desirable.
I beleive the city is becoming better with each and every year though, I don't have high hopes of Vancouver becoming cheaper in the long run.

[vansky]

Bingo,
We can reduce prices by making the city less desirable.
I beleive the city is becoming better with each and every year though, I don't have high hopes of Vancouver becoming cheaper in the long run.

Agree. Being cheap is not the idea for this city. This is still a global city despite it being a joke compare to many other global cities. This city will one day have the financial status as singapore, hongkong or san fransisco. Then let's see who's complaining about today's real estate prices.

The vancouver skyline still lacks a strong stylistic aesthetic.

[vanlaw]

This city will one day have the financial status as singapore, hongkong or san fransisco.

I dont think Vancouver can ever be a financial centre on par with any of those cities - not in this lifetime at least.

[vansky]

I dont think Vancouver can ever be a financial centre on par with any of those cities - not in this lifetime at least.

there is a lot of future around the pacific rim, vancouver lies within the growing pacific north west region, there's a good potential. remember, what thing was singapore before the chinese went in to take it over, it was shitgapore. now, the chinese have built it into a world city. vancouver is getting a lot of chinese these days, that is one important step toward a good future. i can c this city and the entire b.c become more prosperous in no time.

[johnjimbc]

Idealistic as this sounds, I think a city is "world class" when it stops "trying" t be. When a city just is what it is, and the conditions exist for the creative class (be that financially creative, artistically / culturally creative, or even business creative) are allowed to prosper within an environment that appreciates it.

I don't think it is size, nor do I think it is architecture. I don't think any specific infrastructure project does it. It is more in how a city functions and what the environment encourages.

That's why cities like Milan or Barcelona, or even small towns like Sante Fe, can compete with cities many times larger (the New Yorks, Londons and Tokyos) as having a "worldly" presence.

If a city is fretting over "what it needs to look like," to be world class, they are missing the point.

Vancouver has the right ingredients. It doesn't have to steel the financial sector from Toronto, to build on those ingredients.

That is my opinion anyway.

[vanlaw]

In respnse to vansky - I would agree that BC is on the upswing and will be for some time and will continue to prosper due to its geographical location, but when you say "financial status", I read that as meaning a city that is a financial centre where banks, investment banks, private equity etc come to set up, and that just isn’t going to happen in Vancouver anytime soon. All cash flows through Toronto, and to a lesser extent Calgary. Vancouver has a lot of catching up to do.

In terms of what kind of money it takes to make it in Vancouver i.e. - home to the wealthy, I'd say we are up there, unfortunatley. But Vancouver has very little financial clout on the world, or even the North American, stage.

[fever]

Singapore and Hong Kong developed into the financial centres of their regions because they were islands (quite literally) of stability in a sea of chaos. We can't expect anything similar here.

[raggedy13]

I agree that vansky's statement is a bit premature. Though I do agree with vansky in that I think Vancouver's role as a business centre will grow significantly in the coming decades. It likely won't be so much in the traditional financial-oriented sectors but more in the new technology and education sectors. I see Vancouver becoming a city of great innovation that will be known for its advances in medical, environmental, and new media research and development and the spin-offs they generate.

The way I see it, there is a reason companies like Microsoft are beginning to set up shop here - Vancouver is able to draw from both a huge international talent pool as well as a highly educated local talent pool. The city possesses all the institutional infrastructure and human capital necessary. All it really requires is the right financial investments and great things can come from this city. It may be hard to believe now but I feel we are really just seeing the beginnings of this trend and it will all become all the more obvious in a few years time. Though of course I'm no psychic. :rolleyes:

p.s. Great rendering finds, Phazed.

[vansky]

In respnse to vansky - I would agree that BC is on the upswing and will be for some time and will continue to prosper due to its geographical location, but when you say "financial status", I read that as meaning a city that is a financial centre where banks, investment banks, private equity etc come to set up, and that just isn’t going to happen in Vancouver anytime soon. All cash flows through Toronto, and to a lesser extent Calgary. Vancouver has a lot of catching up to do.

In terms of what kind of money it takes to make it in Vancouver i.e. - home to the wealthy, I'd say we are up there, unfortunatley. But Vancouver has very little financial clout on the world, or even the North American, stage.

I see, but the idea of a world class city is largely subjective. That means half of it lies in perception rather than true facts. Everyone defines a world class city differently, but a world class skyline, something symbolic, is more factual. That I mean you can literally "see" a world class. There are many things that make vancouver a world class, but also many that do not make it even a national class. However, vancouver is still a place regonized as a financial center by the mastercard and London global financial center index. That is good enough for its reputation. However, it also has the reputation of being a village and small. That is why I say the chinese, the largest of all immigrants, are the hopes for this city, to both increase its population and its financial flow. Calgary, despite some oil booming business, is not a gateway geographically. That means you make a stop in Vancouver, then everywhere else. You might not stay here, but that little stop means its the hub of international transportation. One thing that calgary or any other inland cities are unable to compete. Vancouver's position is what matches Shanghai or Hong Kong, despite a much smaller population and economic size. Vancouver can fall into the position that Montreal has become, which Calgary can grow into Toronto. Despite Toronto's dominance, Montreal still survives. So there is only one way Vancouver will sail toward, the great bright future.

[vansky]

I agree that vansky's statement is a bit premature. Though I do agree with vansky in that I think Vancouver's role as a business centre will grow significantly in the coming decades. It likely won't be so much in the traditional financial-oriented sectors but more in the new technology and education sectors. I see Vancouver becoming a city of great innovation that will be known for its advances in medical, environmental, and new media research and development and the spin-offs they generate.

The way I see it, there is a reason companies like Microsoft are beginning to set up shop here - Vancouver is able to draw from both a huge international talent pool as well as a highly educated local talent pool. The city possesses all the institutional infrastructure and human capital necessary. All it really requires is the right financial investments and great things can come from this city. It may be hard to believe now but I feel we are really just seeing the beginnings of this trend and it will all become all the more obvious in a few years time. Though of course I'm no psychic. :rolleyes:

p.s. Great rendering finds, Phazed.

All of you should start designing world class architecture, advertising, malls, and underwear, rather than here arguing what the hell is a world class city , and how the hell this city is not!

[vansky]

Singapore and Hong Kong developed into the financial centres of their regions because they were islands (quite literally) of stability in a sea of chaos. We can't expect anything similar here.

Those two cities are the way they are today because the chinese there work shitty harder than the rest on this globe. Hong Kong isn't the only port on the south east coast of China. China has opened its economy to the world for 3 decades already, and it took Hong Kong a few decades to reach its status in the 90s. Of course, Shanghai being the second most hard working city in China is second in economy. And we all know that Vancouverites are working overtime for no pay on the beaches while Torontorians are sleeping in their offices for the night.

[geoff's two cents]

Hmm. A lot of cynicism here.

For my part, I am continually surprised by just how well known Vancouver is and has been on the world stage. In the late 1920s, for instance, it was rather famous for having the conveniences of a large urban centre surrounded by beautiful natural scenery. The original Hotel Vancouver was particularly famous for its rooftop patio - a natural oasis looking out over steam, smoke, steel and concrete to another natural oasis.

Even today, Vancouverism is making some considerable impact as an architectural style both across the country and internationally. The Hamilton skyscraper forums are full of references to Vancouverism as the quintessence in urban planning, particularly vis a vis Toronto. The exhibition in London is another recent example of how far this fame has spread. To be sure, it isn't what everybody wants, but it's becoming increasingly well-known as a way of building that compliments a desirable way of living.

I'm not sure what all the fuss is about Toronto. Toronto certainly has its own attractions - There are more shows, older architecture, it's closer to New York, Boston, Montreal, and Washington DC, and there's simply more going on there. Even with nature and architecture aside, however, Vancouver has its own charms. It has much better food, for one thing. I'm definitely on board with the city's growing status as a world culinary destination. I once heard that Vancouver is known internationally for two things: having the most Starbucks outside Seattle, and having the world's cheapest, high quality sushi (in Japan, so I'm told, the sushi is fantastic, but very expensive compared to other dishes). My many trips into Toronto over the last year have landed a grand total of one enjoyable eating experience; my random encounters in Vancouver were much more successful.

Like everybody else here, I'd like more diversification downtown - a few more corporate head offices would be nice. If that's your only standard for "world class", however, I think there's other criteria you're missing out on. The Olympics will, in my opinion, only consolidate the city's world class status - if not quite yet economically.

I think that will come, however. Chicago grew at a breakneck pace in the late nineteenth century by virtue of being a large trade and railroad junction. As a Pacific Rim city already engaged in reaping the rewards of a rising China, I think a similar transformation (on a slightly lesser scale) will take place in Vancouver.

[baggab]

Those two cities are the way they are today because the chinese there work shitty harder than the rest on this globe. Hong Kong isn't the only port on the south east coast of China. China has opened its economy to the world for 3 decades already, and it took Hong Kong a few decades to reach its status in the 90s. Of course, Shanghai being the second most hard working city in China is second in economy. And we all know that Vancouverites are working overtime for no pay on the beaches while Torontorians are sleeping in their offices for the night.

I'm not saying people in Shanghai are not hard working, but you do know that Shanghai along with other special economic zones were the focus of China's experiment with capitalism in their country. Which meant that investments and being open to the world were focused on 3-4 key areas.

So, the comparison isn't correct for Vancouver. If Canada starts focusing more on Vancouver to promote trade with China, which they kind of are than maybe. Either way, I don't know what role you expect Vancouver to gain from China, economically. I only see us doing better through a secondary effect through commodities which is set by a world price, so it's not like we'll ship to China but we'll get a benefit from it's growth.

Australia, is China's warehouse.

[duener]

I think it's good to have an open discussion on the future of the city. Take population for example. Do we really want 10 million people squished into Vancouver? What sort of immigrants do we want? (In theory it's a democracy so if we want to only allow left-handed Ugandans we can do that. I'm in favour of bringing in lots of Eastern European chicks personally :) )

I for one, wouldn't want Vancouver to turn into a Hong Kong, Singapore, etc. If you like those cities then go live there. I think the green industries that were mentioned and growing currently hold the key rather than finance.

Interestingly, what do all the major finance centres have in common: Hong Kong, Singapore, New York, Toronto, Mumbai... they were British Colonies. Why didn't Macau, Rio, Mexico City, Hanoi, Goa become finance centres? Portuguese/Spanish/French Colonies...

[Yume-sama]

Vancouver is fine for being Vancouver. It is what it is. I don't see why we care so much about trying to be like somebody else. Newsflash, Vancouver will NEVER be a London, Paris, Tokyo, New York City, etc. We have our own identity, and the city will become very well known come 2010, worldwide. I can't tell you how many people in Japan know what and where Calgary is because of the 1988 Olympics. Whenever I tell a Japanese person where I was born, they always shout out "Olympic City!!". Let's focus on being Vancouver, because, hey, it isn't so bad. In fact, I hear it is quite a nice place to live :P

[Lindberg]

All of you should start designing world class architecture, advertising, malls, and underwear, rather than here arguing what the hell is a world class city , and how the hell this city is not!

World class underwear? Wonder what that has to do? :sly:

[baggab]

Interestingly, what do all the major finance centres have in common: Hong Kong, Singapore, New York, Toronto, Mumbai... they were British Colonies. Why didn't Macau, Rio, Mexico City, Hanoi, Goa become finance centres? Portuguese/Spanish/French Colonies...

I believe British Colonies prospered mostly because they were involved with the richest empire at the time. If I remember correctly, there was a certain trade pact that the British had over the world during those several 17-19th century and it helps that not only is English the international language of business, but these colonies would be most favourable as the port cities that would be most adjusted to foreigners to conduct deals.

[mr.x]

you left out Hong Kong. :)

[vansky]

this city will need a lot of intelligent and talented people to bring it up to a world stage. imagine los angeles without hollywood, new york without broadway, and hong kong without its film. vancouver's cultural scene needs to improve. for the better, you expect better. for others, such as cities..., i really dont expect too much from them. for the position that this city holds as a gateway, there is a lot of expectation from people who see it as an important city. if vancouver is seen as hopeless, what hope does the rest of this country have?

[Denscity]

What were all these "world class" cities like when they were only 120 years old like Vancouver is now?

[thinkingbig]

hey i always come on here for the latest news and decided to register now taking a look at this thread i think this article on wikipedia might interest u http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_class_cities

[vansky]

a r e w e f a k e ?

[geoff's two cents]

hey i always come on here for the latest news and decided to register now taking a look at this thread i think this article on wikipedia might interest u http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_class_cities

I've seen this page before - Thanks for the link!

[NetMapel]

Getting more corporate headquarters is nice, but we must also grow our existing corporates. Lululemon, Telus, Vancity, Canaccord Capital and many more. I've been looking into buying more stuff and services from those firms lately.

[jlousa]

Canaccord???? Really??? You want Canaccord to grow? Don't we have enough money laundering and criminals in this city already??

I'll just sit back and wait for some bikers to drop by now. :cool:

[Skook]

This 'world class" thing always makes me cringe. I've always thought that discussing whether or not anything, especially a city, was world class or not, was proof positive that it wasn't, as someone mentioned earlier.

Still, it's a moot point for Vancouver. We are what we are, and that is something to be proud of.

We are something like the 116th largest city in the world. Are many of the larger centres more prominent culturally, politically and financially? Absolutely, of course they are.

But for a 116th place city, smaller even than St Louis and Tampa and Denver and Baltimore, and almost exponentially smaller than New York or Paris or even Toronto, do we punch above our weight? Damn straight we do. And we stack up pretty damn well against cities our own size, anywhere, anyplace.

[Denscity]

I think that wiki world city thing pegged vancouver at the same level as cleveland. Uh, yaa, that's what i've always said.

[djp]

Cleveland? I guess population-wise they're in the same ballpark. But I don't think people around the world know about or desire to visit Cleveland. And it's skyline is horrible.

[vanman]

I haven't seen this Vancouver skyline rendering before so I'll post it here. Props to dleung@SSC


http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/6749/futureskyline4ft2.jpg

[Metro-One]

:previous: :slob: That is one sweet skyline! It is also by far Van's best angle, a good variety of office, different styles of condos and the convention centers.

[wrenegade]

Fantastic render.

Couple things though, do I still see Jameson House in there? And is the placement of Capitol correct? I would think the Scotia Tower would block it a little more. It would be nice if I was wrong though.

[Mininari]

Put all aspirations of 700-800' buildings aside, and take a moment to appreciate that rendering. Wow. Patina + Capitol +Hotel Georgia may add to the table-top but they have a nice impact on the skyline. I sure hope the Hotel Georgia stands out as much as the rendering suggests!

[WarrenC12]

Cleveland? I guess population-wise they're in the same ballpark. But I don't think people around the world know about or desire to visit Cleveland. And it's skyline is horrible.

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame man :notacrook:

Downtown Cleveland along the water has a lot of nice areas, don't knock it too much. :D Of course it has a lot of crappy areas.

[LeftCoaster]

Fantastic render.

Couple things though, do I still see Jameson House in there? And is the placement of Capitol correct? I would think the Scotia Tower would block it a little more. It would be nice if I was wrong though.


Jamieson aint dead quite yet ;)

[Vancity]

:previous: so it's still a go ahead?

[LeftCoaster]

woah woah lets not jump to hasty conculsions... all I said is it isnt dead yet. Doesn't mean it isnt on critical life support with some sort of construction analagous breathing appartus.

[Mininari]

woah woah lets not jump to hasty conculsions... all I said is it isnt dead yet. Doesn't mean it isnt on critical life support with some sort of construction analagous breathing appartus.

Well they can't just leave those heritage buildings dangling over an open pit, can they?

Or can they???

Man, that would so awful, yet so cool... better than a duck pond!
It would be both! A covered duck pond!

But seriously...

[officedweller]

One of the news stories said that they are secure hanging there for years and years. So no immediate worries.

[phesto]

I haven't seen this Vancouver skyline rendering before so I'll post it here. Props to dleung@SSC
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/6749/futureskyline4ft2.jpg

This is one of the best future renderings I've seen for Vancouver. I think it's safe to say that Patina, Hotel Georgia and Jameson House are all represented as too tall though. Capitol 6 is also too tall/close in the foreground - I agree, it should look further back than Scotia (because it is). Still, great work.

[LeftCoaster]

I thinik Georiga is about right. It looks to be just slightly taller than wall centre and it is closer to this vantage than wall centre so if anything it might be slightly undersized. Patina definetly looks off and so does Capitol, but I thought Jamieson looks to be about right.

[metroXpress]

We will have to wait for a while to see all that in person :)

^^I think that you are correct awvan, some are wrong in the rendering.
esp. the Soctia Bank !

[wrenegade]

I thinik Georiga is about right. It looks to be just slightly taller than wall centre and it is closer to this vantage than wall centre so if anything it might be slightly undersized. Patina definetly looks off and so does Capitol, but I thought Jamieson looks to be about right.

Are you a Calgarian?

Jameson

http://www.phaconsult.com/images/project-Jameson.jpg

Jamieson

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/159/jamiesonplace041ouvs2.jpg

[LeftCoaster]

Are you a Calgarian?

How dare you!

[hollywoodnorth]

How dare you!

ya that was pretty rude ;) calling a Vancouverite a Calgarian...... ICKY ICKY ICKY! I need to shower just thinking about that ;) :tup:

[Hed Kandi]

How dare you!

ROFL :haha:

[Distill3d]

ya that was pretty rude ;) calling a Vancouverite a Calgarian...... ICKY ICKY ICKY! I need to shower just thinking about that ;) :tup:

ugh i oddly agree! but no matter how hard i scrub, i still can't manage to get the Calgarian out of me...:haha:

[vansky]

ugh i oddly agree! but no matter how hard i scrub, i still can't manage to get the Calgarian out of me...:haha:

that is a true calgarian...

[Wooster]

Yeah, being a Calgarian. What a horrible thing to be. :rolleyes:

[vanman]

^Can't take a joke?

Another future skyline from SSC:

(photo taken Jan 30 from flickr):
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8083/futureskyline7jn2.jpg

[vansky]

dt's uneven elevation has made some of the towers look somewhat taller than they actually are. isn't wall center rougly the same as shaw...

[Hong Kongese]

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