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[STERNyc]

Coop Himmelbau gives Nouvel some competiton...
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8629/tower6pr5.jpg

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8615/nytoweruo3.jpg

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1786/tower2ya6.jpg

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2357/tower3nm4.jpg

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1221/tower4ti5.jpg

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/5041/tower5ht6.jpg

The project is mentioned in an interview with Coop Himmelbau courtesy of michaelII at SSC and Derek at WNY.

F.Z.: What is the project are you working on at the moment?

W.D.P: At the moment we are working on a highrise in New York.

F.Z.: Would you like to explain this project?

W.D.P: It is located right next to the Norman Foster building on the Eighth Avenue and Fifty-fifth Street and it will have a twisted shape, it's a hotel and apartments, with a a very distinctive appearance. I would like to make a statement: architecture now is an occupied territory, occupied by the building industry, by the business clients, by money. An architect today has to decide whether he will go into the resistance or will be a player, will be on the side of the money. I think that good architecture can only exist when the architect decides to go in the resistance.

What a way to start the new year!

[Dac150]

Wow, is this a way to kick off the new year or what. Yet another amazing proposal for our great city. I cannot wait for further information on this one. I am also pretty familiar with that area (right near the Time Warner Center, Hearst, Random House, Daily News, Columbus Circle).

[Busy Bee]

Wha????

[CoolCzech]

(Yawn)

ANOTHER thousand footer? :sleep:


Okay, just kidding.:banana:


There's just SO many supertalls sprouting all over Manhattan, it's hard not to embarrassed by the immensity of it all. I once posted that the BofA was a harbinger of things to come...

Little did I suspect just how many things there would be...

[CoolCzech]

Wow, is this a way to kick off the new year or what. Yet another amazing proposal for our great city. I cannot wait for further information on this one. I am also pretty familiar with that area (right near the Time Warner Center, Hearst, Random House, Daily News, Columbus Circle).


1,000 feet is on its way to becoming the new "standard 700 footer" of the City. 8th Avenue might well be on its way towards eclipsing even the awesome canyon that is Avenue of the Americas.

[Dac150]

1,000 feet is on its way to becoming the new "standard 700 footer" of the City.

Well it was said that the 700 footer is the new 500 footer in New York, and now it seems to be evolving again. Manhattan is entering an age of supertalls.

[GVNY]

Marvelous!--unlike that stupid, twisted tower on 57th and 2nd.

Wonderful!

[CoolCzech]

Well it was said that the 700 footer is the new 500 footer in New York, and now it seems to be evolving again. Manhattan is entering an age of supertalls.

At this rate, it'll establish the first truly supertall "plateau" skyline by next decade.

[Dac150]

At this rate, it'll establish the first truly supertall "plateau" skyline by next decade.

Without a doubt. And who knows, there can be even more on the way that we are yet to know of. Just look how far this building has entered the planning stages, and was just discovered on this forum today.

[CoolCzech]

Well, the building boom can apparantly be expected to continue unabated:

Downtown will remain hot real estate in 2008
Real estate experts say the city's commercial market will remain resilient in 2008 with Lower Manhattan expected to be a big draw.

December 27. 2007 3:23PMBy: Kira Bindrim

Top Commercial Projects for 2008 Slideshow Buck Ennis The city’s commercial real estate market was fairly resilient in 2007, considering rising rents, dwindling vacancy rates and an uncertain economy. Real estate experts expect that same durability to continue into the New Year, though at a slightly tempered pace.

“In the last few years, we’ve seen pricing spike dramatically, but the ratcheting up of rental rates is definitely going to flatten out as demand slackens somewhat,” says Robert Freedman, president and chief executive of GVA Williams. “We are going from an era of irrational exuberance to a rational but still fundamentally strong market.”

Commercial vacancy is expected to increase slightly to 7.2% in 2008, compared with an average vacancy rate of 7.1% for the first 11 months of 2007, according to Colliers ABR, leaving landlords with little motivation to lower their base rents. Manhattan’s average asking rent is expected to climb around 8% in 2008, after averaging $59.60 a square foot to-date for 2007, according to Colliers.

On the upside, a slight softening in demand could prompt landlords to increase their concessions – including free rent and build-out-designated financing – to keep tenants’ eyes from wandering.

“Tenant improvement dollars is an area where we might see some efforts by tenants to ‘get more’ from their landlords,” says Ken McCarthy, managing director of New York area research at Cushman & Wakefield

Downtown is not a trend. It's fundamental and enlightened urban planning."
--Robert Freedman, CEO of GVA Williams

Base rents downtown could make up for the flatness of their uptown neighbors in 2008. Prices there in Lower Manhattan are expected to soar past the $50-per-square-foot mark, hitting $53 a square foot by the end of the year, according to CB Richard Ellis. Vacancy downtown is expected to dip below 8%, hitting 7.5% by the end of the year.

Indeed, few neighborhoods have seen the kind of 180-degree turn that occurred downtown, where a once-stuffy nine to five locale has been transformed into a 24/7 hot spot.

“When you say something’s a ‘hot market,’ it’s transitory,” says Mr. Freedman. “It’s a trendy phenomenon. But downtown is not a trend. It’s fundamental and enlightened urban planning.”

Mr. Freedman and others predict the area has not yet hit its peak. As an increasing number of Class B and C buildings are converted into residential space, restaurants and retailers are heading south to take advantage of the lucrative new neighborhood.

Commercial tenants are following close behind, and with good reason. Through the end of the third quarter, the average midtown Class A rent was around $80 per square foot, according to The Staubach Co., compared with $52 per square foot downtown.

The credit crunch will not be without consequences. Nearly 80% of developers, service firms and investors surveyed say they expect underwriting standards for commercial mortgages to be more rigid in 2008, according a report by PricewaterhouseCoopers and the Urban Land Institute. That’s compared with 70% last year and just 36% in 2005.

But the overall outlook for 2008 is upbeat, and Mr. Freedman says economic caution might spell good news for developers and tenants down the line. “The underwriting standards for new construction and the criteria for refinancing existing assets will be more stringent today than prior to the credit crunch,” he says. “But as a result, we will have a much more rational model, and fewer mistakes are going to be made.”


http://www.crainsnewyork.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071227/FREE/905094578/1058

[Jularc]

WOW another supertall for my wonderful city! :banana: And it looks too good.

[NYonward]

Very nice. It appears to overhang the street also, even though that must be just how the rendering looks.

[scalziand]

WOW! It's neat how the building goes up halfway as an ordinary box, and then suddenly breaks free and starts twisting-almost like a visual metaphor for the architect themselves.

[antinimby]

Another one for the dustbin. This one ain't gonna happen folks but hey, don't let that stop you from... :cheers:

[CoolCzech]

If you're privy to some inside info about that, why not share it with us, antinimby?

[antinimby]

I don't have any inside info but just an educated guess and a hunch. Look at this:

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1221/tower4ti5.jpg


It shows that this tower is indeed proposed for the Boston Properties site (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=124144) on W. 55 and Eighth Ave. As some of you may have already know, an earlier proposal was for a hotel at that site but have since become an office tower project.

Everything from the developer, including his presentations to the Community Board and his application to purchase air rights from a few theaters indicate a boxy office tower.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see this one get built as much as the next person but I just don't think it's happening.

[Lecom]

This came out of nowhere. I'll reserve my opinion till I can comprehend this news.

[NYguy]

It shows that this tower is indeed proposed for the Boston Properties site (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=124144) on W. 55 and Eighth Ave. As some of you may have already know, an
earlier proposal was for a hotel at that site but have since become an office tower project.

I don't know, from this angle it does appear to be on the south side of 55th, the Boston Properties site..

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1786/tower2ya6.jpg


But the size of the tower is about the same as what Boston Properties is
building at their site now:

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8629/tower6pr5.jpg



Either way, its a very interesting proposal to look at, but it has a 2006 date.

Eighth Avenue will eventually get a 1,000 footer if not this one...

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2357/tower3nm4.jpg


http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8615/nytoweruo3.jpg

[Fabb]

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8629/tower6pr5.jpg

^Why does it say 2006 ?
Is it an old project ?

[NYguy]

^Why does it say 2006 ?
Is it an old project ?

Apparently an older proposal for the site.

[Dac150]

I should of caught that date. Just got caught up in the excitement of it all. Now I'm begining to have my doubts on this one.

[CoolCzech]

The project is mentioned in an interview with Coop Himmelbau courtesy of michaelII at SSC and Derek at WNY.


What was the date of that interview, STERNyc?

[Dale]

Seems we got all worked up about nothing.

[America 117]

i really hope this gets built !!!!!

[NYguy]

i really hope this gets built !!!!!

If you read this thread carefully, you will see that the likelihood of it getting built are nonexistant.

[hamo]

It's proposed!!

:hyper:










:hyper:

You can check it
on the diagrams!!

[Dac150]

Hmm...

[bbeliko]

the design is actually pretty cool

[NDPhilly]

i really could see this getting built.