[Dartmouth] King's Wharf (Building E) | 85 m | 27 fl | U/C

[sdm]

I think it will still make it.

One key difference between this and UG is this is a "community" with many different uses, buildings, incomes, ect and you get some sweet views of Halifax.

Also this one hasn't been beaten into the ground by the HT ... yet ... :P

No it hasn't been beaten by them thank god. Still worried about that tower being approved however for other reasons.

[Wishblade]

I'm just curious, what phase of this development is currently approved? Are the four 10 story towers approved or just the demo/infilling?

[terrynorthend]

I'm just curious, what phase of this development is currently approved? Are the four 10 story towers approved or just the demo/infilling?

Just the site preparation I believe. I've not seen a development agreement go before council for any of the phases yet. I'm not even sure they have clearance to infill yet, which is under federal jurisdiction I think.

[Nilan8888]

HT porboably should be worried about this development. It might not have significance to them in itself, but if that tower goes up looking as nice as in the renderings, people could start looking at the Halifax side of the harbor and wondering why there isn't more of that here.

Once a little nice architecture gets built, it could potenitally burst the dam if people see it's not impossible to build something nice. And then ask why more doesn't get done, and the developers get to say "Ask Phil Pacey".

[Wishblade]

HT porboably should be worried about this development. It might not have significance to them in itself, but if that tower goes up looking as nice as in the renderings, people could start looking at the Halifax side of the harbor and wondering why there isn't more of that here.

Once a little nice architecture gets built, it could potenitally burst the dam if people see it's not impossible to build something nice. And then ask why more doesn't get done, and the developers get to say "Ask Phil Pacey".

Boy wouldn't that be nice. Let's hope your statement comes to truth.

[beyeas]

One positive to note here (in terms of how serious Fares is about making this go forward) is that they are already advertising it (ala the Trillium ads that appeared on buses last year) in places like the programs at Neptune. They are actively advertising/marketing future units, which makes it distinctly different from say the UG proposal which just seems to be silent.

[Barrington south]

^ nice point

[City_of_Lakes]

yeah where has UG been? what's the word

[Jonovision]

A quick shot from the ferry of what they are doing to that warehouse. I can't tell if they are actually tearing it down. They have added what appears to be support beams in the middle of the large hope on the water side of the building.

http://inlinethumb55.webshots.com/16822/2199126030096709958S500x500Q85.jpg

[Jonovision]

Those support beams I have mentioned were actually framing for some cladding. I think they are turning that building into a sales office for the project. They also built a small deck on the top of the 1 storey piece of the building that is below where they put the new cladding/windows. The back half of the building that was being torn down is now almost gone.

[Dmajackson]

http://www.faresinc.com/images/prop_full_kings.jpg
Source: Fares Inc (http://www.faresinc.com/currentprojects_kingswharf.php)

[dartmouthian]

HOLY SH*T. that looks so good

[someone123]

The building on the right is a bit heavily looking but overall they are okay. Looks like a good fit for the area and a big step up from some previous projects, like those suburban looking townhouses they built 5-10 years ago.

[DigitalNinja]

Isn't the building on the right already built? And it looks like the building on the left is an exact carbon copy of the proposal... Any idea what up with that?

[Jonovision]

Already built? Nothing like that in exists in the city yet. I'm assuming these are the buildings that will be on the canal side of the site. I do really like them. I just hope its not all going to be grey. The street interaction looks great! I'm curious to know what that little portal building is in between the two larger ones. Perhaps an entrance to the underground parking?

[Barrington south]

not bad...I feared it they where going to be so much worse

[Jonovision]

Yesterday

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[DigitalNinja]

It just reminded me of that place down the south end of barrington street.

[Barrington south]

are you talking about the W suite's?

[Vancouver_Highrise]

The buildings remind me somewhat of the Olympic village here in Van

[DigitalNinja]

are you talking about the W suite's?

Yeah, I forgot the name of it.

[Jonovision]

Taken this morning.
You can see the building they have been working on has finally come down and it seems they are working on building some rooms in the adjacent building.

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http://inlinethumb38.webshots.com/35493/2746913390096709958S600x600Q85.jpg

oh and the new bridge over the canal has finally opened!

[Dmajackson]

All photos by me yesterday;

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2596/3664696640_107c14fbc0_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3371/3664698968_a081557bbe_b.jpg

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[Jonovision]

I was down on the site today talking with Mr. Fares and he told me that all the permits from the city should be in place by the end of the summer and he's hoping to start construction in the fall. They are working on the sales centre now. Forgot to ask when that would be open.

[Barrington south]

nice one Jono!!....

and with the latest re-design of the tower looking pretty good,
and the renderings of the four shorter buildings looking descent...... I'm starting to anticipate this bonanza for Dartmouth more and more

[Dmajackson]

I was down on the site today talking with Mr. Fares and he told me that all the permits from the city should be in place by the end of the summer and he's hoping to start construction in the fall. They are working on the sales centre now. Forgot to ask when that would be open.

Nice :tup:

So with the ten-storeys most likely being built first I guess we should keep our eyes open for construction on the cove side in the coming months. :)

This is off topic but does anyone know the plans for the Starr property nearby? I was listening to Council last night and and they mentioned a trail of some sort but I don't know if thats all of it or whats going on.

[Jonovision]

This is off topic but does anyone know the plans for the Starr property nearby? I was listening to Council last night and and they mentioned a trail of some sort but I don't know if thats all of it or whats going on.

There was a plan done up a few years ago by Ekistics. http://www.ekistics.net/portfolio/landscape-architecture/10.html
The plan was to convert the rest of the site into parkland connecting the trail down from the lakes to the canal section that leads into the harbour. The plan also called for daylighting the canal. It looks really great. Don't know what the status of the project is however.

[JET]

A few weeks back some orange tape showed up on the starr property. It is quite a mess since they did the last excavation.
There is a new pile of gravel at the corner of pine st extension and prince albert road, but might be related to greenvale.
The last plan that I had heard about the daylighting was to close off the last block of pine st ext and have a footbridge over the stream where the road is presently. JET

[Dmajackson]

^Thanks you guys.

On Tuesday all they mentioned was the path through the property is going to be constructed this year (they mentioned surveying is occuring right now). They also said the path wouldn't connect to the intersection due to logistical problems (intersection re-alignment).

[ZET]

there is a small digger on the property today. ZET

[Aya_Akai]

I was down poking around the area around the site tonight looking for a good spot to view the fireworks for the Tall Ships finale and noticed a few changes to the area, decided to take some shots to share with everyone!



Here we've got a nice banner for the project on the side of the building closest to Alderney Drive, near the entrance & new foot bridge over the canal
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3486/3736923471_fd01469e0c_o.jpg

This banner is visible, straight to the point and eye catching when coming across the harbour on the ferry.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2486/3736923629_bf443eac0c_o.jpg


Last but not least, the project flags which are running along the site on Alderney Dr.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3431/3737716400_cb2ed6cbea_o.jpg

They've got the majority of the building which had the 'bueno' graffiti on it gone, the last bit I think they are renovating for what I assume is the project office, and now have that big blue banner on it.

The infilling is coming along great as well, if you watch when on the ferry or down in the Alderney area you'll see truckload after truckload coming in, dumping, and the dozers levelling and pushing out for the next load.

I'm really excited for this, more now than ever, especially now that banner is up with the picture of the 30 floor building in my favorite rendering. :tup: :tup:

[worldlyhaligonian]

I was down poking around the area around the site tonight looking for a good spot to view the fireworks for the Tall Ships finale and noticed a few changes to the area, decided to take some shots to share with everyone!



Here we've got a nice banner for the project on the side of the building closest to Alderney Drive, near the entrance & new foot bridge over the canal
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3486/3736923471_fd01469e0c_o.jpg

This banner is visible, straight to the point and eye catching when coming across the harbour on the ferry.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2486/3736923629_bf443eac0c_o.jpg


Last but not least, the project flags which are running along the site on Alderney Dr.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3431/3737716400_cb2ed6cbea_o.jpg

They've got the majority of the building which had the 'bueno' graffiti on it gone, the last bit I think they are renovating for what I assume is the project office, and now have that big blue banner on it.

The infilling is coming along great as well, if you watch when on the ferry or down in the Alderney area you'll see truckload after truckload coming in, dumping, and the dozers levelling and pushing out for the next load.

I'm really excited for this, more now than ever, especially now that banner is up with the picture of the 30 floor building in my favorite rendering. :tup: :tup:

Great update... can you PM me your contact details... I don't think I have you on Facebook anymore and we need to discuss the logo!

[Dmajackson]

Two shots I took today;

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2578/3740599924_5f08647e80_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3421/3740601162_ae80b9d7ef_b.jpg

[Jonovision]

From this weeks Dartmouth - Cole Harbour Weekly Newspaper.

Flags flying for $300-million Dartmouth waterfront development

Halifax News Net

By Joanne Oostveen – The Weekly News
The King’s Wharf banners on Alderney Drive are flying, signalling the start of construction of the $300-million project.
“What you see happening right now is the construction of the sales office and model suite,” said developer Francis Fares. “Once the office and model suite is open in the fall, people can drop by and see for themselves what King’s Wharf will be all about.”
King’s Wharf will be built in six phases and will include 1,200 residential condos, a 200-room hotel and convention centre, hotel condo sites, 230,000 square feet of mixed retail shopping and 50,000 square feet of commercial space.
The project will take up about 10 acres of land and 20 acres of pre-confederation water lots, said Fares.
“And we are now doing some infilling of the site near the harbour. We will be claiming about half an acre in total there.”
Fares is happy that people have expressed an interest in the latest construction activity down at the site and says he wants people to know the model suite will be housed in an original old warehouse.
He explains they are doing all they can to make this project one that reflects good recycling practices.
Construction will start on a 12-storey building in the late fall, said Fares, and it will contain two levels of indoor parking and be home to residences with commercial offices on the main floor.
“There will be so much for people to look forward to,” said Fares. “King’s Wharf will transform Dartmouth Cove into the new heart of Halifax Harbour.”
He said there will be great incentives for those who decide to buy early, but wouldn’t say exactly what those would be.
“Interested customers can visit the sales office and follow the updates online. All they have to do is call the office and they can be added to our email list,” said Fares. “This will be very vibrant, inviting and happening for Dartmouth.”
joanneoostveen@accesswave.ca
For information on King’s Wharf, call 455-4555.

24/07/09

[Wishblade]

first building starting in the fall eh? Good news to hear. Its great to have an actual starting time for this project now as opposed to complete speculation.

[q12]

They are reporting on News 95.7 that shovels are in the ground and there was some media event with the mayor about the project starting today, if I heard it correctly.

[Aya_Akai]

They are reporting on News 95.7 that shovels are in the ground and there was some media event with the mayor about the project starting today, if I heard it correctly.

I'll be down that way tomorrow afternoon, I'll check it out and let everyone know!

[Jonovision]

I drove by the site today. Looked pretty quiet. The bulldozer had moved, but the only thing I noticed different.

[planarchy]

By CLARE MELLOR Business Reporter
Fri. Jul 31 - 4:46 AM
The Halifax company behind a proposed $300-million project on the Dartmouth waterfront expects to start digging by late fall.

"We’re hoping for October, November, to be able to get permission to actually break ground," said Sherry Spicer, vice-president of Fares Real Estate Inc.

King’s Wharf is a proposed 30-acre project at the former Dartmouth marine slips. It is expected to eventually include a hotel, condominium buildings, shops, three public access points to the waterfront, a marina, and underground parking.

Fares Real Estate, owned by developer Francis Fares, will soon put forward finalized plans for the first phase of the development to Dartmouth community council.

Phase one is expected to "include two buildings of condos, one high-end apartment building, and an office building," Ms. Spicer said Thursday.

"We are going to start with two buildings, and that is going to be the high-end apartment building and the first condo building. We are not going to start four buildings all at once."

Last summer, Halifax Regional Council unanimously approved an initial development agreement for King’s Wharf giving a thumbs-up to the overall concept, and plans for site access and servicing.

"In essence, we had to go through and outline what the entire concept was going to look like in principle."

Because of the size and schedule of the project, it requires a two-stage development agreement.

The next phase will cover details of the development that require a resolution of council for approval.

( cmellor@herald.ca)

[Jonovision]

I was down watching the fireworks by the site last night and noticed there is now a construction trailer on site.

[Jonovision]

There was a nice article in Metro today about Kings Wharf but I cannot find it online for some reason. It showed the two renderings we have seen, although the one with the 10 storey buildings is bigger and shows the full extent of 2 of the buildings. It looks quite nice. The article is mostly just Tim Olive going on about how it will revatalize downtown Dartmouth and that it will be startgint very very soon.

[Jonovision]

They started tearing down another building today. It is the one closest to Alderney with the big poster on it.

[Andy P]

Looks like the launch date on Kings Wharf is set for October 15th according to AllNovaScotia.com

[Barrington south]

Despite the former ass-backwards approval process, which has resulted in (permanent?) delays to project's like the UG towers, and the major effect of the economic downturn, affecting projects like the salter street block (plus the old app. process). This is by far the busiest the development scene has been since I relocated to Hali in may 03. And that is just with the two Dal building's, Trillium, NSP Headquarters and the new farmers market

if Hollis and Morris, and kings wharf :) start more than just site prep before christmas


then I must say,

the list is fairly impressive:)

[Jonovision]

Walked by the site today. The sales centre is coming along. They now have a nice garden planted around it.
The building that was closest to the road is now completely gone. And they have started infilling the small indent in the site that was located behind this building.

[Jonovision]

News letter out today regarding the grand opening of the sales centre on the 16th. And after the 16th the sales centre hours will be Monday and Friday 9-5, Tuesday - Thursday 9-7, and 11-4 on the weekends.
They also said the expected opening of the first building is June 2012.
I pulled these off the newsletter.

http://inlinethumb28.webshots.com/40795/2742510540096709958S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2742510540096709958RJBeuA)

http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/44037/2860211160096709958S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2860211160096709958tkDeXC)

[kph06]

Looks good. The King Street water main was just replaced and upgraded to a 12" diameter pipe apparently to handle the future demand.

[worldlyhaligonian]

Great post... I love the second shot.

Very Rotterdam.

[Dmajackson]

Wow very nice! I love the random moon over the South-End. :haha:

[JET]

Wow very nice! I love the random moon over the South-End. :haha:

I thought that was the red light from the balconies on Hollis St. Maybe I'm wrong. JET

[sdm]

anyone notice that, well at least to my eyes, fenwick towers is not in the renderings?

[Wishblade]

anyone notice that, well at least to my eyes, fenwick towers is not in the renderings?

Lets just say its hiding behind Maritime Centre :P

[worldlyhaligonian]

http://www.faresinc.com/images/prop_full_kings.jpg

[sdm]

King’s Wharf development will transform waterfront
Project to be built in Dartmouth Cove
By TOM PETERS Business Reporter
Wed. Oct 14 - 4:46 AM


Construction on King’s Wharf, a major residential/commercial development on the Dartmouth waterfront, is expected to get underway by the end of the year. A striking feature of this multi-phase development of Fares Real Estate Inc., is a 30-storey tower, depicted in this rendering.





The much-anticipated multimillion-dollar King’s Wharf project slated for the Dartmouth waterfront will get an official unveiling this week.

Developer Francis Fares, owner of Fares Real Estate Inc., said Tuesday he hopes work on the first phase of the project will get underway before the end of the year.

The economic spinoffs of the project, located in Dartmouth Cove on the site of the former Dartmouth Marine Slips, will be significant.

King’s Wharf, which will be developed in phases, will have a construction cost of $300 million over five years, create nearly 700 jobs each year during construction with nearly $25 million in annual wages, and create $20 million worth of commercial space that will generate about $1 million in annual commercial property tax. The residential portion will generate about $4 million annually in property tax.

The project will have 1,293 condominiums, a 200-room hotel and convention centre, hotel condo suites, 100,000 square feet of mixed retail space and 40,000 square feet of commercial space.

Mr. Fares says he feels his development design will be new to the area.

"It’s like a Bishop’s Landing concept only on a bigger scale," he said.

Bishop’s Landing, developed by Southwest Properties on the Halifax side of the harbour, is a low-rise development that mixes residential and retail components.

King’s Wharf will have taller structures, including a 30-storey condo tower.

Mr. Fares said prices will start at about $305 a square foot for residential units, which will range in size from 700 square feet up to 1,850 square feet.

The developer is optimistic the project will be a success. Its prime location offers total views of the harbour.

"It’s a peninsula on the water with a southwest exposure. We have a boardwalk across the waterfront so it is a community where people can live, work and enjoy the waterfront. A water taxi will link us to downtown Halifax, we are five minutes from the ferry terminal and we are connected to the Trans Canada Trail," Mr. Fares said.

The property, a former marine industrial site owned by the Irving group, has undergone all the required remediation and approvals. "Everything is done and approved and we are ready to start," Mr. Fares said.

Suppliers to the project, investors and local dignitaries will get the first glimpse of King’s Wharf during a private showing Thursday. About 800 people registered as potential buyers will see the design on Friday, and on Saturday the project will be open for viewing by the general public.

Mr. Fares said the feeling in the community for the project has been "very positive."

The first building will have 75 units and there will be "great incentives for the first 40 buyers," he said.

[hfx_chris]

It's nice that the heritage trust decided to drop their crusade against this development. Probably when they noticed that just about every person who spoke at the public meeting said they liked it and wanted it to go forward.

[beyeas]

Good to hear that they are over all the remediation approval steps. I was a little concerned about that, so am glad to hear that they made it past that step.

[Jstaleness]

This is being featured right now on News 95.7. They are talking to Owners/Creators

[Wishblade]

This is being featured right now on News 95.7. They are talking to Owners/Creators

What was said? I just read your post and missed it.

[Takeo]

It's nice that the heritage trust decided to drop their crusade against this development. Probably when they noticed that just about every person who spoke at the public meeting said they liked it and wanted it to go forward.

It amazes me what they will rail against. This entire area is a huge industrial wasteland. And they fight against developing it into a beautiful waterfront destination. Boggles the mind. I'm glad they dropped it too.

[hfx_chris]

As I recall one of their biggest concerns was the loss of the view of the mouth of the harbour from Brightwood, specifically the view from a certain hole (I'm thinking 9th, but I don't know Brightwood at all) - but then somebody representing the players at Brightwood said they don't mind, and they endorse it :)

[Nilan8888]

It amazes me what they will rail against. This entire area is a huge industrial wasteland. And they fight against developing it into a beautiful waterfront destination. Boggles the mind. I'm glad they dropped it too.

Actually I do sort of see a possible logic to thier initial stance: politics.

Not politics in the conventional sense, but politics in getting thier way overall. A lot of these people are probably concerned about ANY successful high-rise project. They've probably been particularly concerned since the Paramount went up along South Park, and Gladstone certainly didn't give them any reassurances (and neither, of course, did the 'Twisted Sisters' debate).

The better the project, the more people that will see it. And the more people that will want to emulate it. Which spells big trouble, collectively, for them.

So even if King's Wharf doesn't threaten heritage sites, and doesn't even block and resonable view to the harbor (because you know how the 9th hole at Brightwood was a prime tourist stop for any vistor to Halifax), it's still in thier interests to block it simply because it will be big and it will be good. Because that'll increase demand. Much better a spectacular failure which would stop everything in its tracks.

[Keith P.]

As I recall one of their biggest concerns was the loss of the view of the mouth of the harbour from Brightwood, specifically the view from a certain hole (I'm thinking 9th, but I don't know Brightwood at all) - but then somebody representing the players at Brightwood said they don't mind, and they endorse it :)

It's the 7th hole, from the tee box, and while it is a nice view, the vista is broad enough that this will only enhance it. Apparently, though, back when Halifax was passing viewplane bylaws in the 1970s, the City of Dartmouth decided they needed to get into the act too, so they passed one about that particular view from Brightwood, believe it or not... :gaah:

[Aya_Akai]

So, as I was getting off the ferry this evening, this open house completely eluded me until I walked along the Dartmouth waterfront to see a giant column of light shooting up into the sky, and the sales office illuminated with beautiful white and blue lights....

I went to the open house guys, and my god... the scale of this development is phenominal, they had a really incredible plastic mock-up model in incredible detail for viewing, and I've gotta say I am way more excited about this than I was before... I was speaking with several owners of units that have already been pre-purchased, and how excited they are too, I didn't get into much detail as I was too busy oggling the site model and drinking wine and strawberry champage.

Anyway, I would highly suggest going down to check this out... I kept thinking to myself the entire time "this can't be happening, this is too good to be happening.........shit... this REALLY is happening!!!!" I wasn't able to get my hands on any real information as the place was crammed full and I just wanted to see the display basically before I had to catch my bus home.

Just...everyone go check it out. I am going to go down when it's less busy I think, you won't be dissapointed.

[Jstaleness]

What was said? I just read your post and missed it.

It was very positive. Andrew asked a lot of great questions about how the project came to be, what inspired it etc. A lot of time was spent discussing the impact it will have on the economy, the 700 jobs it will create each one of the total 5 years, (something like 25 million in wages) and the amount of retail/living space it will create in downtown Dartmouth. Its awsome how exited Francis sounded as he spoke about it and that if all goes well construction will start in Dec. He didn't say whether the 30 storey tower was still phase 2 or if it was going to be the starting point. They touched on the Twisted Sisters as well, but there was no confirmation on whether the project was still alive or dead.
I loved what was said, because a lot of people listen to Andrew on Maritime Morning. This was a great way of getting word around on such an exciting project.

[Jonovision]

That's odd. I was led to believe today was a special viewing for stakeholders and the grand opening was tomorrow. I certainly plan to go down tomorrow myself. Hoping to maybe be one of those 700 who are employed.

[hfx_chris]

wine
I'll be there.

[Jonovision]

The website has totally been revamped and launched. It looks great.

www.kingswharf.ca

[Wishblade]

I was talking with HaliStreaks about this the other day, and he told me that there is WAY more to this project than the renderings let on. I wish they would show what this will look like from the Halifax side.

[DigitalNinja]

This part of the site interested me. All info taken from above.
Buildings B and C will be 13-storey residential towers with ground floor commercial space.
Building E will be an 11-17 level condominium
Building G will be a 12-18 level condominium.
The most anticipated building at King’s Wharf is its centrepiece, Building I, which will be renamed by the community at a later date. (The 30 story tower)

Building H will be an 8-storey condominium with ground floor commercial space.
Buildings J and K will be 5-storey condominiums surrounded by 3-story townhouses.
A marina is being proposed to skirt the perimeter of these buildings. Also proposed are a series of one-level pavilion housing unique boutiques or retail shops.

Also there is building D which is an office building (And hotel? the building that is in isn't listed) All together this project will double the amount of high rise buildings in dartmouth.

All together, if the buildings get built at the maximum levels, it will be about 104 stories of stuff.

Only 55 stories off from the Burj :P
If only it was one tower.

[JET]

As I recall one of their biggest concerns was the loss of the view of the mouth of the harbour from Brightwood, specifically the view from a certain hole (I'm thinking 9th, but I don't know Brightwood at all) - but then somebody representing the players at Brightwood said they don't mind, and they endorse it :)

It might block the view of the oil refinery. That's a problem.

The meeting they had about the Dartmouth Common, someone mentioned giving up the land behind the sportsplex, and having Brightwood as common land.
I like that idea. JET

[Andy P]

I Was at the showroom for Kings Wharf this morning. Was very impressed with the project and the vision. I hope it all comes together. I took some photos and created a slide show. Check out this link http://bit.ly/2PPRO6

[Dmajackson]

From the website:

http://kingswharf.ca/images/gallery/AerialView3.jpg

[Dmajackson]

So I just updated the compilation thread link for this and it looks insane (in a good way). :)

Oh and ...

:psycho:

[hfx_chris]

:psycho:
You okay there? You need a change of underwear?

[Barrington south]

man the retail @ grade , is so sweet....:tup:

[Barrington south]

I was talking with HaliStreaks about this the other day, and he told me that there is WAY more to this project than the renderings let on. I wish they would show what this will look like from the Halifax side.

sure I'd love to see the hole thing, but the way this is progressing, could not please me more....the more this project evolves the better and better it gets.....look @ the 1st + 2nd rendering, from way back when


who ever is in charge is very wise in therms of this project


man talk about vision and legacy

"sing while your winning" :cheers:

[Wishblade]

sure I'd love to see the hole thing, but the way this is progressing, could not please me more....the more this project evolves the better and better it gets.....look @ the 1st + 2nd rendering, from way back when


who ever is in charge is very wise in therms of this project


man talk about vision and legacy

"sing while your winning" :cheers:

haha, oh Im not trying to sound unsatisfied with the project. In fact I think this is probably the most important single project this city may have ever seen. And I agree, it looks absolutely amazing in its current form.

[fenwick16]

This part of the site interested me. All info taken from above.
Buildings B and C will be 13-storey residential towers with ground floor commercial space.
Building E will be an 11-17 level condominium
Building G will be a 12-18 level condominium.
The most anticipated building at King’s Wharf is its centrepiece, Building I, which will be renamed by the community at a later date. (The 30 story tower)

Building H will be an 8-storey condominium with ground floor commercial space.
Buildings J and K will be 5-storey condominiums surrounded by 3-story townhouses.
A marina is being proposed to skirt the perimeter of these buildings. Also proposed are a series of one-level pavilion housing unique boutiques or retail shops.

Also there is building D which is an office building (And hotel? the building that is in isn't listed) All together this project will double the amount of high rise buildings in dartmouth.

All together, if the buildings get built at the maximum levels, it will be about 104 stories of stuff.

Only 55 stories off from the Burj :P
If only it was one tower.

Will the phases be build in alphabetical order so the tallest building will be one of the last buildings constructed?

[Dmajackson]

You okay there? You need a change of underwear?

Lol no. I was trying to find a WOW smiley but all the had was pshyco. :haha:

But if the tower looks like the rendering when done I'd be like a puppy near a steak. :P

[hfx_chris]

I just hope all of the buildings don't end up looking the same. Vary the style a bit, change the colours a bit, use different materials, otherwise it looks like one great big planned neighbourhood. Which it basically is, but I think it would look better if the buildings all looked like they were built by different people.

[Barrington south]

most likely stages 3+4 will be redesigned as the project progress, and it must be remembered that tis project is sales driven, so 3+4 are many, many years away...the only parts that are visually accurate in the model are 1+2

talked to one guy, he was pretty cool


there was some old sea-captain geezer complaining about everything under the sun.....so sad


and one of the women involved could not have been any more pretentious, even if she tried.....ummm ya, nice attiued....if your in High school

the retail components....esspecially the the central district of stage 3 are so brilliant

[gm_scott]

I went to the sales center today! I also took a look around downtown Dartmouth for fun. A lot of buildings had no tenants, sad to see. But with Kings Wharf I see this changing soon. With all those people I see the buildings coming back. Over time I think we'll see the whole downtown transform. Maybe we'll even see some new office towers eventually come. This development has some huge potential. I just hope theres enough people with the cash to support this whole project. I would hate to see half this constructed.

[Keith P.]

I went to the sales center today! I also took a look around downtown Dartmouth for fun. A lot of buildings had no tenants, sad to see. But with Kings Wharf I see this changing soon. With all those people I see the buildings coming back. Over time I think we'll see the whole downtown transform. Maybe we'll even see some new office towers eventually come. This development has some huge potential. I just hope theres enough people with the cash to support this whole project. I would hate to see half this constructed.

Well, the thing is, people have been saying that about downtown Dartmouth for over 20 years now, and nothing good has happened. There have been a few new developments here and there but it still looks and feels very much like a slum, and there are very few of the amenities that go a long way towards making an area feel like a nice community -- nice shops, restaurants, etc. Maybe this will give it the critical mass the area needs to allow that to happen. But they said the same thing in the 80s about Admiralty Place and that did nothing to help.

[worldlyhaligonian]

I think they were smart about many aspects of this development. The smaller towers shouldn't be a hard sell (harbour view) and aren't much bigger than most of the infill projects in the North end.

I think they will be able to do this whole project in a responsible way... and it would be great if they sold all the units in the big tower over the next couple of years.

[Wishblade]

Well, the thing is, people have been saying that about downtown Dartmouth for over 20 years now, and nothing good has happened. There have been a few new developments here and there but it still looks and feels very much like a slum, and there are very few of the amenities that go a long way towards making an area feel like a nice community -- nice shops, restaurants, etc. Maybe this will give it the critical mass the area needs to allow that to happen. But they said the same thing in the 80s about Admiralty Place and that did nothing to help.

Admiralty Place.....Kings Wharf.

BIG difference

[Keith P.]

Admiralty Place.....Kings Wharf.

BIG difference

OK. Highland Park, then.

All I'm saying is that it isn't automatic.

[Jonovision]

I went down for the Grand Opening on Friday. It was super busy and I was awestruck by the whole thing. The model is amazing. I was speaking with some of them and Phase 1 is the four smaller buildings in the back. They are taking downpayments of interest for Phase 2 which is the iconic tower. And in the first day I was told they already had 10 people signed up for the 150 unit building. And it will be built as soon as they have enough people signed up. I also found out that all of the buildings are Lydon Lynch aside from the iconic tower which was designed by a Toronto firm who specializes in waterfront development. The atmosphere there was really good and everyone was very excited about this happening. The best part of the whole thing though was the retail/pedestrian area in the centre. It looks amazing!!!!

[fenwick16]

I went down for the Grand Opening on Friday. It was super busy and I was awestruck by the whole thing. The model is amazing. I was speaking with some of them and Phase 1 is the four smaller buildings in the back. They are taking downpayments of interest for Phase 2 which is the iconic tower. And in the first day I was told they already had 10 people signed up for the 150 unit building. And it will be built as soon as they have enough people signed up. I also found out that all of the buildings are Lydon Lynch aside from the iconic tower which was designed by a Toronto firm who specializes in waterfront development. The atmosphere there was really good and everyone was very excited about this happening. The best part of the whole thing though was the retail/pedestrian area in the centre. It looks amazing!!!!

Is the 150 unit building the 30 storey tower? Will this be taller than Fenwick Towers since it appears to be on a 2 or 3 storey podium?

Too bad they can't add a 200 foot observation tower to the top of the 30 storey tower. It would be a great vantage point of the harbour and city. I think that it would look especially good at night with the bridges all lit up.

[Wishblade]

Is the 150 unit building the 30 storey tower? Will this be taller than Fenwick Towers since it appears to be on a 2 or 3 storey podium?

Yes, this will become the new tallest in Halifax. I think I heard it was to be around 105 meters. Fenwick is 98. though that is dated information.

[phrenic]

Yes, this will become the new tallest in Halifax.

While I realize that the tower is not yet approved, I never thought I would hear anything be described as Halifax's "new tallest building."

Unless of course Fenwick was demolished and the second tallest got the title. :)

[Keith P.]

Yes, this will become the new tallest in Halifax. I think I heard it was to be around 105 meters. Fenwick is 98. though that is dated information.

Uh, this is in Dartmouth, not Halifax.

[hfx_chris]

HRM my friend :)

[Wishblade]

Uh, this is in Dartmouth, not Halifax.

HRM is Halifax, therefore Dartmouth is Halifax.

[Nilan8888]

Still, it does perhaps provide a decent accusation to throw at the Heritage folks to say thanks to thier efforts the tallest building in Halifax... is in Dartmouth.

[Dmajackson]

Still, it does perhaps provide a decent accusation to throw at the Heritage folks to say thanks to thier efforts the tallest building in Halifax... is in Dartmouth.

Well it could worse ... can you imagine if our tallest was in Sackville! :haha:

But seriously I think Dartmouth deserves a tower like this. They've been neglected for years and well most of the city isn't exactly quality designed.

[JET]

For the people that have seen the new plans, how is the access over the train tracks resolved? JET

[Jonovision]

For the people that have seen the new plans, how is the access over the train tracks resolved? JET

There are the two access points discussed. The at grade access that exists will remain and they will build a single corkscrew overpass where the parking lot on alderney now exists. There will also be a pedestrian link on the water side of the tracks to Alderney Park.

[FuzzyWuz]

Hi. This is my first post. I'm thrilled to see King's Wharf going ahead. I visited today and spoke to a guy who says they will start on the apartment building in 30 days. The rest is driven by pre-sales. I took some pics too. Let's see if this works.

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[Jonovision]

Good pics of the model! :)

[Dmajackson]

^Thanks for the photos FuzzyWuz and welcome to the forum :)

I guess for the next few years Haligonians will be looking over the Harbour to see cranes. :P