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Mayor Quimby
May 1, 2007, 9:47 PM
This thread is for ideas on how to make Regina better, besides getting rid of Fiacco and cohorts.:D

I have posted many ideas and been instructed that I should leave town. Now, I would like to hear from you.

What does Regina lack ? How can we improve on it ?

Does a good product have to keep promoting itself endlessly or do good products attract buyers by being good ?

I have my ideas and according to all the economic data available, it has worked in every corner of the world. However, a number of posters on this board do not subscribe to these ideas so I am looking forward to their ideas and have given them this platform.

CCF
May 1, 2007, 11:50 PM
I'd like to see the Trans Canada Trail extended from Deer Valley/Lumsden into Regina along Wascana Creek. This would mean cleaning the creek for canoeing and constructing a path along the creek for biking/walking. This would obviously be preferred over the Trans Canada Highway. The Qu'Appelle Valley is one of the great things about Regina and region and we should strengthen our connection to it.

Migs
May 2, 2007, 12:06 AM
I'd like to see the Trans Canada Trail extended from Deer Valley/Lumsden into Regina along Wascana Creek. This would mean cleaning the creek for canoeing and constructing a path along the creek for biking/walking. This would obviously be preferred over the Trans Canada Highway. The Qu'Appelle Valley is one of the great things about Regina and region and we should strengthen our connection to it.
Great idea. Personally I would definately like to see the proposed move of the CN railyards to the outskirts of the city.....IMO that real estate is a gold mine just waiting to happen.

Migs
May 2, 2007, 12:10 AM
Does a good product have to keep promoting itself endlessly or do good products attract buyers by being good ?
Why not both??? Just check out the threads where I've posted pictures of our city and look at how many people are shocked at how beautiful of a city this really is. Why the hell don't we promote ourselves??? For Christ's sakes, I still see Alberta advertisements in newspapers promoting their province and they make up 1/3 of the economic growth in our country. And it's great to see that for the first time in a long time, over the past 3 months, more people have moved from Alberta to Saskatchewan than the other way around......and I'm willing to bet the promotion that this city and province is currently doing is one of the reasons for that turnaround.

Mayor Quimby
May 2, 2007, 12:21 AM
Why not both??? Just check out the threads where I've posted pictures of our city and look at how many people are shocked at how beautiful of a city this really is. Why the hell don't we promote ourselves??? For Christ's sakes, I still see Alberta advertisements in newspapers promoting their province and they make up 1/3 of the economic growth in our country. And it's great to see that for the first time in a long time, over the past 3 months, more people have moved from Alberta to Saskatchewan than the other way around......and I'm willing to bet the promotion that this city and province is currently doing is one of the reasons for that turnaround.

How much do you want to bet ?

Migs
May 2, 2007, 12:27 AM
How much do you want to bet ?
Bet what? Are you suggesting that the promotion of our city has not convinced people to move back to Saskatchewan?? If you are then your full of shit because I can name 4 couples off the top of my head whom have recently moved home after finding out more info about the cost of living as well as whats going on in Regina through these promotions.

(cue Quimby's fiacco bashin)

Also I noticed that you conveniently avoided my comment about Alberta and its cities doing self promotion in a time of prosperity just like Regina.....whats the dif???

Mayor Quimby
May 2, 2007, 12:29 AM
Bet what? Are you suggesting that the promotion of our city has not convinced people to move back to Saskatchewan?? If you are then your full of shit because I can name 4 couples off the top of my head whom have recently moved home after finding out more info about the cost of living as well as whats going on in Regina through these promotions.

(cue Quimby's fiacco bashin)

Also I noticed that you conveniently avoided my comment about Alberta and its cities doing self promotion in a time of prosperity just like Regina.....whats the dif???

The dif is I don't care how cities in Alberta spend my money. So they moved here due to the ads or due to the facts of cost of living ?

Where are there list did the ad campaign rank as a convincing force ?

Your wealthy or at least post about it, so how much do you wanna bet ?

Migs
May 2, 2007, 12:32 AM
The dif is I don't care how cities in Alberta spend my money. So they moved here due to the ads or due to the facts of cost of living ?
Ummmm one of the things that they are promoting is the cost of living. How hard is that for you to comprehend??? These couples that I know of had no idea how cheap it really is to live here compared to Alberta and BC until they became aware of it through these promotions.

Where are there list did the ad campaign rank as a convincing force ?

Your wealthy or at least post about it, so how much do you wanna bet ?
Bet what??? put down the Scotch cause your not making any sense. I just gave you some examples that I know of through my personal friends that the ad campaigns have worked and this is all you have to come back with???? Come on Quimby, I know you struggle at the best of times to make sense but this is even sub-par for you.

And as far as me being wealthy, the reason why I posted that was to give an example that things are pretty damn good in Regina these days for people like myself who actually work for a living.

Mayor Quimby
May 2, 2007, 1:25 AM
I'm willing to bet the promotion that this city and province is currently doing is one of the reasons for that turnaround.

Because you brought it up, put down the reefer because you're not making sense. Short term memory loss is a side effect, you do know that.
:whip:

So, How much Richie Rich ?

Migs
May 2, 2007, 2:14 AM
Because you brought it up, put down the reefer because you're not making sense. Short term memory loss is a side effect, you do know that.
:whip:

So, How much Richie Rich ?
Are you really this dumb or are you intentionally being stupid??? I already proved to you that these promotions are one of the reasons for the turnaround (ie my friends whom recently moved back to Regina). Seriously, how hard is that for you to understand??? Just the fact that your still asking me to bet is like you betting me that the Leafs will make the playoffs this year.

Mayor Quimby
May 2, 2007, 2:36 AM
Are you really this dumb or are you intentionally being stupid??? I already proved to you that these promotions are one of the reasons for the turnaround (ie my friends whom recently moved back to Regina). Seriously, how hard is that for you to understand??? Just the fact that your still asking me to bet is like you betting me that the Leafs will make the playoffs this year.

Yeah, you stick with your anecdotal evidence. No lets bet the paltry sum of $10k on empirical statistical evidence, not stories. Since you initiated the bet, you can contract Sigma to do a poll of recent arrivals to Regina from inter-provincial migration and ask them,

Why did you choose to move to Regina ?

How great a role did the advertisements play in you choosing to move to Regina ?

Which advertisements did you observe?

sample size 700-1000

If this shows that ads generated over 35% of the inter-provincial migration to Regina, I will pay you $10,000.

Migs
May 2, 2007, 2:51 AM
I guess you still didn't catch on when I said promotion is ONE of the reasons for the turnaround. Unreal.:rolleyes:

Mayor Quimby
May 2, 2007, 3:15 AM
I guess you still didn't catch on when I said promotion is ONE of the reasons for the turnaround. Unreal.:rolleyes:

Keep back peddling.

yeeg
May 2, 2007, 3:58 AM
Are you really this dumb or are you intentionally being stupid??? I already proved to you that these promotions are one of the reasons for the turnaround (ie my friends whom recently moved back to Regina). Seriously, how hard is that for you to understand??? Just the fact that your still asking me to bet is like you betting me that the Leafs will make the playoffs this year.
Out of curiosity, where did they move back to Regina from and why?? I moved from Regina to Calgary almost 10 years ago and at this time, would never think of moving back...That goes the same for many people I know who did similar moves from Regina or Sask in general...

Regina represents a different lifestyle than Calgary so its hard to use that as a comparison...But for argument sake, I will try to list the pros and cons of each city.

Regina - Pros
- Affordable housing and this depends on when you got in. But not as cheap as you would think.
- Slower pace
- Beautiful park
- Great Restaurants
- Best football team and fans in the world
- Everyone knows you
- Killer hot summers
- beautiful lakes in Sask (ok, not regina but cant really beat northern sask)


Regina - Cons
- High Property Taxes
- High personal income tax rate
- Not enough selection of retail stores
- Considering size of city, takes a long time to get from outskirts to DT
- People like mediocrity
- Not enough jobs
- difficult to fly out of regina, need connections to go anywhere except neighbouring province
- living in a fishbowl if you are famous (Riders)
- Smaller community (everyone knows you)
- NDP
- Weak economy
- more crime per capita
- killer cold winters, although cant be as cold as Winnipeg.
- Mosaic (cant seem to experience that in Calgary)
- Grey cup festivities


Calgary - Pros
- Big city living (if you like that)
- Close to the mountains
- Food selection is tremendous
- Entertainment options galore
- High paying jobs
- Excellent opportunities if you are an entrepuer
- Go to a Stamps / Riders game and if you wear green, you are almost the majority.
- Lower income tax rates
- Lower property tax (Regina would triple my tax)
- Women are hotter here
- Golf course are much nicer
- more competitive job market which is good if yoiu are employee
- I heard that beer is cheaper too.
- I stand in my living room and see a beautiful view of the mountains
- Disposable income is higher
- culturally diverse (in Regina, people thought east indians were paki's which is not even close)

Calgary - Cons
- Traffic can sometimes be a mess, however, I live 22km from work and it takes me less time than it did in Regina to get from Walsh Acres to UofR.
- Housing can be expensive but depends on when you bought in.
- Not enough Sak ex-pats here
- Can be a bad feeling if you are wearing green at a Stamps / Riders game and we are losing
- a stupid field in the NW they call a park
- more gang crime
- more competitive job market which can be bad if you are employer


Thats about it in a quick minute...i didnt count PST and Health care premiums as they are a wash so dont even go there...

newflyer
May 2, 2007, 4:11 AM
Out of curiosity, where did they move back to Regina from and why?? I moved from Regina to Calgary almost 10 years ago and at this time, would never think of moving back...That goes the same for many people I know who did similar moves from Regina or Sask in general...

I know a few people who are planning to move out of cowtown in the coming year. Calgary is starting to lose momentum and people are taking this as an opportunity to relocate. It will be interesting how many people will leave Calgary if oil comes back down to earth, as some economic reports are predicting.

The U.S economy is rolling towards a recession and thats bad news for the oil industry.

BrannyMuffin
May 2, 2007, 4:26 AM
Out of curiosity, where did they move back to Regina from and why?? I moved from Regina to Calgary almost 10 years ago and at this time, would never think of moving back...That goes the same for many people I know who did similar moves from Regina or Sask in general...

I don't know a whole lot of people who've moved to Alberta in the first place...A friend of my moms moved to the Edmonton area about 10 years ago because her of husband's job in the army (I think he's an airplane mechanic, actually) and when he's finished their plan all along has been to move back to Regina or Moose Jaw. (She lived in Regina for awhile but they're both from MJ). I have one friend (he's 20) going to school in Calgary and he'll be out of there as soon as he's finished, but he was never really a city boy anyway. The only city he was ever happy in was Regina and I think that's because he spent most of his life here. He's just a farmboy. My neighbors daughter moved to Calgary a year ago and moved home just a few months ago. She has a better job here than she ever got in Calgary. She just never liked it there.

Honestly, the only person close to me who ever moved to Alberta on their own will is a friend who moved to Calgary about 2 years ago. He met a girl there, they moved to Edmonton, had a baby and moved back to Regina a couple of months ago. This guy is 22 years old. He moved to Calgary in the first place because he got a job offer doing basically the same job he was here, with a different division of the same company. It was just a chance to try something new, different challenges at work, etc. He left the company he was with after a few months and started up his own company and moved to Edmonton. He can do the same work here that he could in Edmonton and really just wanted to come home, I think. He and his girlfriend were both excited about the move.

For some people it's the right thing to do...for others, it's not. Just like moving to Alberta in the first place.

yeeg
May 2, 2007, 4:39 AM
forgot to add one thing for Regina, Hospital /health care is much better...I dont think there are 12 hour waiting room times in those hospitals.

Migs
May 2, 2007, 4:41 AM
Keep back peddling.
Who's backpeddling??? I am saying the same thing I said in my original post. But why doesn't it surprise me that you have to resort to making shit up again.:rolleyes:

yeeg
May 2, 2007, 4:44 AM
I know a few people who are planning to move out of cowtown in the coming year. Calgary is starting to lose momentum and people are taking this as an opportunity to relocate. It will be interesting how many people will leave Calgary if oil comes back down to earth, as some economic reports are predicting.

The U.S economy is rolling towards a recession and thats bad news for the oil industry.

It wont be as bad for the oil industry as you might think...Back in the early 80's, the US was the dominant economy in the world, but you can see the trend starting to shift from US to China...So our dependancy on the US to buy our oil is shrinking...Dont get me wrong, its still high but not as bad as many moons ago...In less than 15 years, China will be the worlds most powerful economy and we wont be as dependant on the US...

Mayor Quimby
May 2, 2007, 4:46 AM
Who's backpeddling??? I am saying the same thing I said in my original post. But why doesn't it surprise me that you have to resort to making shit up again.:rolleyes:

Migs you can't back up your claims and yet state I am making stuff up.

You are a piece of work.:koko:

Mayor Quimby
May 2, 2007, 4:50 AM
It wont be as bad for the oil industry as you might think...Back in the early 80's, the US was the dominant economy in the world, but you can see the trend starting to shift from US to China...So our dependancy on the US to buy our oil is shrinking...Dont get me wrong, its still high but not as bad as many moons ago...In less than 15 years, China will be the worlds most powerful economy and we wont be as dependant on the US...

In the event of such a crash, a economy completely dependent on oil would suffer a far greater recession then a diversified economy. If if say this more diversified economy had billions of barrels of proven reserves, it could conceivably ride out these fluctuations and make more over the long run then the dependent economy that opened the floodgates and never bothered to think of a plan b. That is interesting,thanks.

BrannyMuffin
May 2, 2007, 4:54 AM
Out of curiosity, where did they move back to Regina from and why?? I moved from Regina to Calgary almost 10 years ago and at this time, would never think of moving back...That goes the same for many people I know who did similar moves from Regina or Sask in general...

Regina represents a different lifestyle than Calgary so its hard to use that as a comparison...But for argument sake, I will try to list the pros and cons of each city.

Regina - Pros
- Affordable housing and this depends on when you got in. But not as cheap as you would think.
- Slower pace
- Beautiful park
- Great Restaurants
- Best football team and fans in the world
- Everyone knows you
- Killer hot summers
- beautiful lakes in Sask (ok, not regina but cant really beat northern sask)


Regina - Cons
- High Property Taxes
- High personal income tax rate
- Not enough selection of retail stores
- Considering size of city, takes a long time to get from outskirts to DT
- People like mediocrity
- Not enough jobs
- difficult to fly out of regina, need connections to go anywhere except neighbouring province
- living in a fishbowl if you are famous (Riders)
- Smaller community (everyone knows you)
- NDP
- Weak economy
- more crime per capita
- killer cold winters, although cant be as cold as Winnipeg.
- Mosaic (cant seem to experience that in Calgary)
- Grey cup festivities


Calgary - Pros
- Big city living (if you like that)
- Close to the mountains
- Food selection is tremendous
- Entertainment options galore
- High paying jobs
- Excellent opportunities if you are an entrepuer
- Go to a Stamps / Riders game and if you wear green, you are almost the majority.
- Lower income tax rates
- Lower property tax (Regina would triple my tax)
- Women are hotter here
- Golf course are much nicer
- more competitive job market which is good if yoiu are employee
- I heard that beer is cheaper too.
- I stand in my living room and see a beautiful view of the mountains
- Disposable income is higher

Calgary - Cons
- Traffic can sometimes be a mess, however, I live 22km from work and it takes me less time than it did in Regina to get from Walsh Acres to UofR.
- Housing can be expensive but depends on when you bought in.
- Not enough Sak ex-pats here
- Can be a bad feeling if you are wearing green at a Stamps / Riders game and we are losing
- a stupid field in the NW they call a park
- more gang crime
- more competitive job market which can be bad if you are employer
- culturally diverse (in Regina, people thought east indians were paki's which is not even close)


Thats about it in a quick minute...i didnt count PST and Health care premiums as they are a wash so dont even go there...

Honestly, I don't think a list like that is very useful...A lot of those things are subjective. Even if I agree with you on a certain point, it may be more of an issue for you than for me or vice versa. It really depends on what you're looking for. You're seem to be happy in Calgary...of the few people I know that moved to Calgary, all of them moved back.

A4Regina
May 2, 2007, 4:57 AM
I think Regina would be awesome if it was more nicely landscaped. Well i think it is really nice the way it is right now but if only we had stuff like more green and culture, some more big bridges across the lake, it would make regina seem like a even bigger, nicer city than it already is.

Migs
May 2, 2007, 5:00 AM
Migs you can't back up your claims and yet state I am making stuff up.

You are a piece of work.:koko:
I already gave you examples where promotion of the city has worked. Sorry that is so hard for you to understand.:rolleyes:

Mayor Quimby
May 2, 2007, 5:03 AM
Real proof please, You gave anecdotal evidence. It is worthless in trying to determine the effect of such a matter. You call others stupid accuse them of lying yet you are ignorant to simple common sense. This doesn't make me angry or hate you. However, I truly feel pity for you .

Mayor Quimby
May 2, 2007, 5:18 AM
Out of curiosity, where did they move back to Regina from and why?? I moved from Regina to Calgary almost 10 years ago and at this time, would never think of moving back...That goes the same for many people I know who did similar moves from Regina or Sask in general...

Regina represents a different lifestyle than Calgary so its hard to use that as a comparison...But for argument sake, I will try to list the pros and cons of each city.

Regina - Pros
- Affordable housing and this depends on when you got in. But not as cheap as you would think.
- Slower pace
- Beautiful park
- Great Restaurants
- Best football team and fans in the world
- Everyone knows you
- Killer hot summers
- beautiful lakes in Sask (ok, not regina but cant really beat northern sask)


Regina - Cons
- High Property Taxes
- High personal income tax rate
- Not enough selection of retail stores
- Considering size of city, takes a long time to get from outskirts to DT
- People like mediocrity
- Not enough jobs
- difficult to fly out of regina, need connections to go anywhere except neighbouring province
- living in a fishbowl if you are famous (Riders)
- Smaller community (everyone knows you)
- NDP
- Weak economy
- more crime per capita
- killer cold winters, although cant be as cold as Winnipeg.
- Mosaic (cant seem to experience that in Calgary)
- Grey cup festivities


Calgary - Pros
- Big city living (if you like that)
- Close to the mountains
- Food selection is tremendous
- Entertainment options galore
- High paying jobs
- Excellent opportunities if you are an entrepuer
- Go to a Stamps / Riders game and if you wear green, you are almost the majority.
- Lower income tax rates
- Lower property tax (Regina would triple my tax)
- Women are hotter here
- Golf course are much nicer
- more competitive job market which is good if yoiu are employee
- I heard that beer is cheaper too.
- I stand in my living room and see a beautiful view of the mountains
- Disposable income is higher
- culturally diverse (in Regina, people thought east indians were paki's which is not even close)

Calgary - Cons
- Traffic can sometimes be a mess, however, I live 22km from work and it takes me less time than it did in Regina to get from Walsh Acres to UofR.
- Housing can be expensive but depends on when you bought in.
- Not enough Sak ex-pats here
- Can be a bad feeling if you are wearing green at a Stamps / Riders game and we are losing
- a stupid field in the NW they call a park
- more gang crime
- more competitive job market which can be bad if you are employer


Thats about it in a quick minute...i didnt count PST and Health care premiums as they are a wash so dont even go there...

Can I show you an ad, it might change your mind ?

:lmao:

BrannyMuffin
May 2, 2007, 5:30 AM
Can I show you an ad, it might change your mind ?

:lmao:

Company's spend billions on advertising every year...because it works. The point isn't to change someones mind. It puts the idea in their heads, though...and works to sway those who may be on the fence, or give an idea to people who maybe hadn't even thought about it in the first place. Advertising is about creating ideas, making people think and consider your product. Those ads might not work on someone like yeeg, but they will work on some of the people they are intended for.

babo
May 2, 2007, 6:05 AM
We could be so much more if we'd stop treating the City like it's our own personal ashtray/landfill.

Inspired by our neighboUr, my wife and I regularly take one or two grocery bags with us on our nightly walks to pick up the trash we see along the way. We often don't get very far before the bag is overflowing with drink cups and assorted fast food related trash, paper, other plastic bags and car parts. I've often wanted to just focus on car parts, but my wife has said that our 15-minute walk to the grocery store will turn into a 45-minute "traffic accident reconstruction". The sad thing is that within the next two days, there's just as much new trash strewn about. Pick up your trash, you pigs.

A4Regina
May 2, 2007, 6:08 AM
We could be so much more if we'd stop treating the City like it's our own personal ashtray/landfill.

Inspired by our neighboUr, my wife and I regularly take one or two grocery bags with us on our nightly walks to pick up the trash we see along the way. We often don't get very far before the bag is overflowing with drink cups and assorted fast food related trash, paper, other plastic bags and car parts. I've often wanted to just focus on car parts, but my wife has said that our 15-minute walk to the grocery store will turn into a 45-minute "traffic accident reconstruction". The sad thing is that within the next two days, there's just as much new trash strewn about. Pick up your trash, you pigs.

I AGREE!!!:previous:

yeeg
May 2, 2007, 1:58 PM
My buddy and I are thinking of going down to the convention center adn see what they have to say...I will make it easier on them to woo me back, if they can offer the same salary that I make today, doing the same thing with the same company, then we can talk...But there are only 10 positions for what I do in Saskatchewan...Normally if I move, I require a 20% increase to pay...

On Vibe985 this morning, they were talking about Regina and making these mock phone calls to people in Regina asking what is good about Regina....3 calls, 3 hang ups...Kinda funny if you ask me...

Mayor Quimby
May 2, 2007, 2:33 PM
My buddy and I are thinking of going down to the convention center adn see what they have to say...I will make it easier on them to woo me back, if they can offer the same salary that I make today, doing the same thing with the same company, then we can talk...But there are only 10 positions for what I do in Saskatchewan...Normally if I move, I require a 20% increase to pay...

On Vibe985 this morning, they were talking about Regina and making these mock phone calls to people in Regina asking what is good about Regina....3 calls, 3 hang ups...Kinda funny if you ask me...

Obviously, they didn't get a hold of Migs or they would still be on the phone.
:haha:

Mayor Quimby
May 3, 2007, 12:16 AM
We could be so much more if we'd stop treating the City like it's our own personal ashtray/landfill.

Inspired by our neighboUr, my wife and I regularly take one or two grocery bags with us on our nightly walks to pick up the trash we see along the way. We often don't get very far before the bag is overflowing with drink cups and assorted fast food related trash, paper, other plastic bags and car parts. I've often wanted to just focus on car parts, but my wife has said that our 15-minute walk to the grocery store will turn into a 45-minute "traffic accident reconstruction". The sad thing is that within the next two days, there's just as much new trash strewn about. Pick up your trash, you pigs.

This is a great idea, the city has a littering bylaw on the books but have you ever seen it enforced. In fact, the city spends 4-6 weeks every spring just picking litter. Usually there are close to 40 employees picking litter for this time, with an average wage of $15/hr. The total cost for litter pick up every year is around $150,000 or more. A littering fine is $500, so 300 tickets a year covers the cost and most likely reduces the amount of wages to clean up. The worst offenders are construction sites, they discard there wrappings and coverings anywhere and the wind always deposits them on public property. They should be charged the junk removal rate for any clean up resulting from their garbage.

Good point.

IntotheWest
May 4, 2007, 2:38 AM
Well, can't remember which of you two hates your mayor, and which one supports the on-going marketing of Regina...

But, I'd have to say that "Think Regina" was all over Calgary for the past few days - including Fiacco on the A-Channel's BT (among other interviews). It received a very good dose of local news attention, and had some nice flashy inserts in the Calgary Herald.

I would really like to know how successful it was (or how they measure it) - but my guess is they did what they set out to do. I'm sure there will be a few more moving from Calgary.

CCF
May 4, 2007, 2:43 AM
Well, can't remember which of you two hates your mayor, and which one supports the on-going marketing of Regina...

But, I'd have to say that "Think Regina" was all over Calgary for the past few days - including Fiacco on the A-Channel's BT (among other interviews). It received a very good dose of local news attention, and had some nice flashy inserts in the Calgary Herald.

I would really like to know how successful it was (or how they measure it) - but my guess is they did what they set out to do. I'm sure there will be a few more moving from Calgary.

If you see any news clips on the internet regarding the event, could you please post them?

Mayor Quimby
May 4, 2007, 4:18 AM
Well, can't remember which of you two hates your mayor, and which one supports the on-going marketing of Regina...

But, I'd have to say that "Think Regina" was all over Calgary for the past few days - including Fiacco on the A-Channel's BT (among other interviews). It received a very good dose of local news attention, and had some nice flashy inserts in the Calgary Herald.

I would really like to know how successful it was (or how they measure it) - but my guess is they did what they set out to do. I'm sure there will be a few more moving from Calgary.

Pat does love the camera and promotion is his forte. However, running a city takes a wee bit more then that.

chris
May 4, 2007, 4:22 AM
How much do residents of Regina like "mediocrity"?

Mayor Quimby
May 4, 2007, 4:26 AM
How much do residents of Regina like "mediocrity"?

Hmm..are you talking about the Habs or the Expos ?

IntotheWest
May 4, 2007, 4:31 AM
Pat does love the camera and promotion is his forte. However, running a city takes a wee bit more then that.

That's fine Quimby, but I was talking specifically about the "Think Regina" event - not the overall success of Mayor Fiacco...

Regardless, he spoke well, and promoting ones city is part of the job.

CCF - I'll do a quick look to see if I can find anything...I have online access to the Herald, I'll see if I can find it now. Sorry, I just wasn't thinking about posting at the time.

Mayor Quimby
May 4, 2007, 4:35 AM
Regardless, he spoke well, and promoting ones city is part of the job.


Well actually, it isn't.

That is usually for the Director of Communications/ Marketing( or whatever title for the department). The Mayor's job is to run the city and tend to governing it. Somewhere along the way, the mayor became a face, not a leader. It is truly sad. This isn't just Regina either. most cities have gone this way. The office is becoming a joke.

IntotheWest
May 4, 2007, 4:55 AM
^I didn't mean it was his full time job, but what mayor doesn't go for these types of trips to promote their city? It only adds credibility to it...

On a similar note, Calgary did the same thing a couple years ago with a big campaign in Toronto...Mayor Bronc showed up at that.

It is most definitely part of a politicians job.

Mayor Quimby
May 4, 2007, 5:06 AM
It is most definitely part of a politicians job.

The problem with this, is they are only politicians when there is an election. Otherwise they are officers of the crown. Municipal governments get 3 years terms with a fixed election date, we should get 2 years of politics free governing at the least.

babo
May 4, 2007, 1:15 PM
^ The mayor is pretty much a figure head who shmoozes with the media, shows off a few wrestling moves, holds babies that hopefully puke on him, and drives around in a publicly funded luxury sport utility vehicle. The city manager is the one that actually runs the city. Oh, the mayor might have some control over his playpen of councilors, but I'm pretty sure every decision gets a "yay or nay" from the city manager.

Mayor Quimby
May 4, 2007, 4:20 PM
^ The mayor is pretty much a figure head who shmoozes with the media, shows off a few wrestling moves, holds babies that hopefully puke on him, and drives around in a publicly funded luxury sport utility vehicle. The city manager is the one that actually runs the city. Oh, the mayor might have some control over his playpen of councilors, but I'm pretty sure every decision gets a "yay or nay" from the city manager.

Actually Babo, the City Manager is a political appointment and is hired and fired at the Mayor and Council's discretion. However, a strong manager and weak mayor can reverse this in some manner. The act governing city administrators is quite clear on their duties and whom they are subordinate to.

chris
May 4, 2007, 4:26 PM
Hmm..are you talking about the Habs or the Expos ?

I don't get it. Any ways back to my question...why and how do residents of Regina like mediocrity? Any examples, just to clear things up?

Mayor Quimby
May 4, 2007, 4:32 PM
^^ How do Montrealers like mediocrity ?

What kind of question is that ?

Only The Lonely..
May 5, 2007, 12:00 AM
^^ How do Montrealers like mediocrity ?

What kind of question is that ?

Amen. I'm sick of all this 'Montreal is better than the rest of Canada' shit. The place is an interesting town, but it's not Mecca.

Quite honestly there's other Canadian cities I like a lot better.

newflyer
May 5, 2007, 1:28 AM
It wont be as bad for the oil industry as you might think...Back in the early 80's, the US was the dominant economy in the world, but you can see the trend starting to shift from US to China...So our dependancy on the US to buy our oil is shrinking...Dont get me wrong, its still high but not as bad as many moons ago...In less than 15 years, China will be the worlds most powerful economy and we wont be as dependant on the US...

China is still massively dependant on the US economy as China's largest customer of cheap goods. Keep in mind as extreme inflation continous to roll over the chinesse economy the cost to buy those good made in china continues to grow at high multiples.

In short if the US economy tanks .. so will China, which will set off a very significant liquidity problem in the finaincial markets as private equity will be caught in extremely tight markets.

Anyway you cut it .. a recession in the US ( still the largest user of petro in the world ) .. means a very bad time for Calgary and Alberta as a whole. Its no longer an "if" situation, but a "when". The only question is who will be wise enough to take there money and leave before the crash?

Moving trucks may become short in supply .....

newflyer
May 5, 2007, 1:32 AM
Calgary Con you forgot ..

Boom/Bust economy ... the boom is slowing down .. guess whats next?? :sly:

Just this week Syncrude cancelled a 6.9 Billion dollar project... smaller oil companies are desparately looking to be bought out and the costs and risks involved in the oilsands has far exceeded expectations. This while oil is projected to decline in price over the next year, as the US economy goes into recession.

Look out .. iceburg ahead!!!! :omg:

Nathan
May 6, 2007, 2:36 AM
^^ How do Montrealers like mediocrity ?

What kind of question is that ?

Amen. I'm sick of all this 'Montreal is better than the rest of Canada' shit. The place is an interesting town, but it's not Mecca.

Quite honestly there's other Canadian cities I like a lot better.


I think he's referring to Yeeg's posting in regards to a con for Regina:

Regina - Cons
...
- People like mediocrity
...

chris
May 10, 2007, 2:27 AM
I think he's referring to Yeeg's posting in regards to a con for Regina:

Yes exactly, thanks Nathan.

Who said I thought Montreal was so great anyway? Geez I was just asking an honest question.

For the record...I think Montreal has many faults.

Now...back to Regina.

Greco Roman
Jun 17, 2007, 12:58 AM
Out of curiosity, where did they move back to Regina from and why?? I moved from Regina to Calgary almost 10 years ago and at this time, would never think of moving back...That goes the same for many people I know who did similar moves from Regina or Sask in general...

Regina represents a different lifestyle than Calgary so its hard to use that as a comparison...But for argument sake, I will try to list the pros and cons of each city.

Regina - Pros
- Affordable housing and this depends on when you got in. But not as cheap as you would think.
- Slower pace
- Beautiful park
- Great Restaurants
- Best football team and fans in the world
- Everyone knows you
- Killer hot summers
- beautiful lakes in Sask (ok, not regina but cant really beat northern sask)


Regina - Cons
- High Property Taxes
- High personal income tax rate
- Not enough selection of retail stores
- Considering size of city, takes a long time to get from outskirts to DT
- People like mediocrity
- Not enough jobs
- difficult to fly out of regina, need connections to go anywhere except neighbouring province
- living in a fishbowl if you are famous (Riders)
- Smaller community (everyone knows you)
- NDP
- Weak economy
- more crime per capita
- killer cold winters, although cant be as cold as Winnipeg.
- Mosaic (cant seem to experience that in Calgary)
- Grey cup festivities


Calgary - Pros
- Big city living (if you like that)
- Close to the mountains
- Food selection is tremendous
- Entertainment options galore
- High paying jobs
- Excellent opportunities if you are an entrepuer
- Go to a Stamps / Riders game and if you wear green, you are almost the majority.
- Lower income tax rates
- Lower property tax (Regina would triple my tax)
- Women are hotter here
- Golf course are much nicer
- more competitive job market which is good if yoiu are employee
- I heard that beer is cheaper too.
- I stand in my living room and see a beautiful view of the mountains
- Disposable income is higher
- culturally diverse (in Regina, people thought east indians were paki's which is not even close)

Calgary - Cons
- Traffic can sometimes be a mess, however, I live 22km from work and it takes me less time than it did in Regina to get from Walsh Acres to UofR.
- Housing can be expensive but depends on when you bought in.
- Not enough Sak ex-pats here
- Can be a bad feeling if you are wearing green at a Stamps / Riders game and we are losing
- a stupid field in the NW they call a park
- more gang crime
- more competitive job market which can be bad if you are employer


Thats about it in a quick minute...i didnt count PST and Health care premiums as they are a wash so dont even go there...

Yeah, they are maybe 0.5C warmer than Winnipeg. So essentially, they are the same. ;)

Greco Roman
Jun 17, 2007, 1:00 AM
With all the talk about Saskatoon becoming the next big boomtown, I wonder how much Regina will profit from the revenues of the oil and gas industry? Is there anticipation of a huge "boom" on the horizon for the Queen City?