Historical Winnipeg discussion

[Biff]

That's the old Medical Arts Building, which was demolished to make way for a newer, taller replacement that opened in 1974. According to Winnipeg Downtown Places, the parking lot was originally intended to be the site of a grocery store which, like so many "future phases" of Winnipeg developments, never materialized.

More here: http://winnipegdowntownplaces.blogspot.ca/2011/11/233-kennedy-street-medical-arts.html

What a shame. Its a pure disgrace that building was demolished and replaced with nothing. It seems that the new Medical Arts Building positioning at half block could of been situated to retain the old building as well.....and why then didn't they place the new Med Arts Bldg on the corner of Graham and Kenedy?

[Archiseek]

Different elevated angle on the same building - it was a bit of a monster footprint wise

http://archiseek.com/2012/1923-medical-arts-building-graham-ave-winnipeg/

[Bluenote]

Makes little sense, they tore this down, which was HUGE, and build that disgrace of a building which is tall and slender. For me, I would think the old building has more floor space then the newish one.

Maybe one day that parking lot will also have something on it. Seems this street is doing well.

[1ajs]

txs for posting that link archiseek been looking for a photo of that place for long time showing it proper as everything i've seen of it has been at a distance

[viperred88]

Makes little sense, they tore this down, which was HUGE, and build that disgrace of a building which is tall and slender. For me, I would think the old building has more floor space then the newish one.

Maybe one day that parking lot will also have something on it. Seems this street is doing well.

I happen to agree, what a disgrace of what their is now.

[Devon]

Different elevated angle on the same building - it was a bit of a monster footprint wise

http://archiseek.com/2012/1923-medical-arts-building-graham-ave-winnipeg/

Some of the proposals on that site are beaaauuuitiful!

[esquire]

The Winnipeg Architecture Foundation has just launched a website featuring mid-20th century modern design:

http://www.winnipegarchitecture.ca/

There is some really interesting content posted, including some booklets the WAF created to highlight some of this city's most notable examples of modernist architecture.

[Cyro]

The Winnipeg Architecture Foundation has just launched a website featuring mid-20th century modern design:

http://www.winnipegarchitecture.ca/

There is some really interesting content posted, including some booklets the WAF created to highlight some of this city's most notable examples of modernist architecture.

This is a fantastic site. There's so much info here It's hard to know where to start.

As my ethnic background stems from the old European Eastern(bloc) countries and travel to most of these countries, I found that the Orthodox Cathedral on main brings me back to many of these eastern european buildings/structures. The onion domes look so out of place in Winnipeg, but then again this is a very diverse city in regards to historical buildings. I attended a function in Holy Trinity a while back, amazing.

If I have a chance I'll try to add photos from many of the historical building interiors I've visited over the years in winnipeg.

Thx for this site.

[viperred88]

The Winnipeg Architecture Foundation has just launched a website featuring mid-20th century modern design:

http://www.winnipegarchitecture.ca/

There is some really interesting content posted, including some booklets the WAF created to highlight some of this city's most notable examples of modernist architecture.

Thanks so much for sharing.

[viperred88]

ARCHITECTURE+DESIGN FILM FESTIVAL 2013 ADFF.CA
8 MAY 2013 - 11 MAY 2013

CINEMATHEQUE, 100 ARTHUR STREET, WINNIPEG
For further information: www.adff.ca
ABOUT THE EVENT

This festival presents critically acclaimed films that focus on the importance of architecture and design in everyday life. The films cover an incredible range of design-oriented topics from architecture and urban design to graphics and product design.
The festival is presented by Urban Ideas, the Winnipeg Film Group, Storefront Manitoba and the Winnipeg Architecture Foundation

http://www.winnipegarchitecture.ca/architecturedesign-film-festival-2013/

[viperred88]

TERRA COTTA ARCHITECTURE TOUR
7 JULY 2013 AT 1:00 PM

MEET AT THE PANTAGES THEATRE PLAZA, MAIN STREET AT MARKET AVENUE
Free! RSVP Here.

ABOUT THE EVENT

Did you know that many of Winnipeg's "stone" buildings are made of clay?

Winnipeg’s terra cotta collection is large and essentially complete. It is an unparalleled sampling in North America of the variety, versatility and beauty of this material. Join us for a tour through Winnipeg's downtown to learn more about the history of terra cotta, of Winnipeg's history and to view this wonderful collection of terra cotta architecture.

The tour will take about ninety minutes. All surfaces will be wheelchair and stroller accessible.

http://www.winnipegarchitecture.ca/terra-cotta-architecture-tour/

[viperred88]

Different elevated angle on the same building - it was a bit of a monster footprint wise

http://archiseek.com/2012/1923-medical-arts-building-graham-ave-winnipeg/


I also agree that monster was a space waster even though it was a lot nicer than what currently lies there.

I wouldn't mind having a replica of that monster there but only being alot taller.

[trebor204]

Some historic maps of Winnipeg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/manitobamaps/sets/72157603367198763/detail/

[yellowghost]

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc385/yellowghost73/yellowghost/20131116_114133_zps87e015c7.jpg

Hello. I was curious as to if anybody has any information on this old art deco service station? These are few and far between now. Its a shame that it is only a pawnshop. Would look great restored. A great place for a retro styled diner.

[chrisallard5454]

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc385/yellowghost73/yellowghost/20131116_114133_zps87e015c7.jpg

Hello. I was curious as to if anybody has any information on this old art deco service station? These are few and far between now. Its a shame that it is only a pawnshop. Would look great restored. A great place for a retro styled diner.

Isn't that a bubble tea place now?

[yellowghost]

lol. I took that pic today. So unless they just din't changethe signage,pretty sure its a pawnshop

[cllew]

If I am not mistaken that was an old Texaco Station.

[esquire]

If I am not mistaken that was an old Texaco Station.

I'm pretty sure you're right. This was one of several such Texacos built on a very similar plan. A couple of the survivors have been renovated beyond recognition... the Husky station at Redwood and Arlington is an example of that.

[cllew]

A good number of the old style Esso stations were taken down and became 7-11's in the early 1970's.

[alittle1]

Any interest in reading a 1955 Winnipeg Visitors Guide? Pictorial pages show advertisements for business and restaurants, population statistics, area map, etc. Has 24 pages. Examples below:


http://imageshack.com/a/img594/2715/ulnv.jpg (http://imageshack.com/i/giulnvj)Uploaded with ImageShack.com (http://imageshack.com)

http://imageshack.com/a/img546/7425/lr6q.jpg (http://imageshack.com/i/f6lr6qj)Uploaded with ImageShack.com (http://imageshack.com)


Mama Trossi menu

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[Cyro]

^ nice find, circa 1958, can't believe the prices...always educational and interesting.

[Cyro]

Great article ..If you haven't read it already on the Dalnavert Museum. by a well known architect here..


Museums such as Dalnavert allow us to immerse ourselves in ideas that cannot be experienced by reading Wikipedia or watching the Discovery Channel. They celebrate our collective experience and shared values, promoting the human engagement that bonds us as a community across social, generational and cultural divides. Perhaps most importantly, local museums inspire creativity and encourage the new ideas that will grow our economy, enhance our quality of life and move our city forward in the future.

Very eloquent :tup:

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/columnists/window-to-the-past-and-future-233270271.html

[Cyro]

These are things a new coat of paint can never do. Corner of King St. and Dufferin Ave., c.1961.
Courtesy of the Winnipeg Tribune << wow
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Fta5SQvT4nc/S75fT5hB25I/AAAAAAAAAzo/9lQaqZ0Ja20/s1600/Winnipeg-StreetsandTraffic-12%5B1%5D.jpg
riseandsprawl.blogspot.com

[1ajs]

https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1901912_661973320533766_2075000185_n.jpg

[alittle1]

Found this link to different properties around Winnipeg and thought that it would be nice to share with the multitude. Check it out:

http://www.winnipeg.ca/PPD/historic/yearpast/1980YearPast.pdf

[Andy6]

https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1901912_661973320533766_2075000185_n.jpg

The Rosamond Billett ... I have a postcard showing it sailing in the Red. It was apparently named after the daughter of a Winnipeg stockbroker. Looks like perhaps it's being dismantled in that photo, but I'm not sure (it would be odd to have the name on the ship before construction was finished, I would expect). The ship was built in 1910. It seems as though that area along the bank alongside what is now the baseball stadium was used for shipping purposes.

[Andy6]

Found this link to different properties around Winnipeg and thought that it would be nice to share with the multitude. Check it out:

http://www.winnipeg.ca/PPD/historic/yearpast/1980YearPast.pdf

There is one of those for most years since then ... looking at the older ones is almost a historical experience in itself as you realize how much of this stuff has dwindled away even in the era of historical consciousness and heritage designations.

Thanks.

[rrskylar]

The Rosamond Billett ... I have a postcard showing it sailing in the Red. It was apparently named after the daughter of a Winnipeg stockbroker. Looks like perhaps it's being dismantled in that photo, but I'm not sure (it would be odd to have the name on the ship before construction was finished, I would expect). The ship was built in 1910. It seems as though that area along the bank alongside what is now the baseball stadium was used for shipping purposes.

Further, it was built as a sand dredge

1911 assembled at Winnipeg, dismantled 1917 & 1918 rebuilt by Tidewater Shipyard, Trois Rivieres as T.P. Phelan ON 140953), later US Howard S. Gerken (ON 254429), lost in storm August 25th, 1926 off Buffalo, NY

[Andy6]

Further, it was built as a sand dredge

1911 assembled at Winnipeg, dismantled 1917 & 1918 rebuilt by Tidewater Shipyard, Trois Rivieres as T.P. Phelan ON 140953), later US Howard S. Gerken (ON 254429), lost in storm August 25th, 1926 off Buffalo, NY

Presumably 1ajs's photo shows the dismantling in 1917 then.

[esquire]

I'm not sure whether this is new, but it's the first time that I've noticed it.

MIT has posted dozens of old Manitoba highway maps on their website. It's an interesting look at the evolution of the highway system in Manitoba.

http://www.gov.mb.ca/mit/maparchive/index.html

[bomberjet]

I'm not sure whether this is new, but it's the first time that I've noticed it.

MIT has posted dozens of old Manitoba highway maps on their website. It's an interesting look at the evolution of the highway system in Manitoba.

http://www.gov.mb.ca/mit/maparchive/index.html

Really cool stuff. I noticed that a while back, but haven't really gone through any of them in detail. Definitely a good history lesson if you're interested in that kind of thing.

[Authentic_City]

Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but the old streetcar tracks are visible on Sherbrook (south of Portage Ave), exposed by the street work that is going on there currently.

[trueviking]

http://s1.postimg.org/98u31vc0v/image.jpg

[mattpa]

that track looks pretty intact the city should take cns old tracks and bring back the trollies

[1ajs]

just shows how bad of shape our roads realy are and the patch work crap thats being done

[Andy6]

I'm not sure whether this is new, but it's the first time that I've noticed it.

MIT has posted dozens of old Manitoba highway maps on their website. It's an interesting look at the evolution of the highway system in Manitoba.

http://www.gov.mb.ca/mit/maparchive/index.html

Interesting. I didn't know there was a 1926 ... the Historical Atlas of Manitoba has the 1928 as the earliest. I have 1928 and 1930 but now (apparently -- thanks, Esquire!) I need to try to get a 1926. I do have a 1926 Trans-Canada Red Route map for the whole of western Canada. It would have been quite the motoring adventure, particularly the B.C. part, which involved shipping your car the length of Kootenay Lake and taking a huge loop from a point along the Washington state border all the way up to Lillooet and then straight back south to the Fraser Valley and Vancouver. It would have taken weeks just to get across B.C.

[Andy6]

We used to have the best highway map in Canada, cartographically, but it isn't as good as it used to be, especially after the NDP decided that it would be really heartwarming and democratic if the highway map showed the entire province on the same side, even at the expense of shrinking the southern part of the province, where 98% of driving and tourist traffic actually occurs, down to the point of illegibility. They also took the sensible population categories (0-200, 200-1000, 1000-5000 and 5000+) and changed them so that the smaller towns of 1000-2500 have symbols and a typeface that doesn't stand out very clearly and so that every place under 1000 appears to be the same -- which doesn't make much sense in Manitoba where a town of 900 people can be a major service centre and shouldn't be indistinguishable on the map from an unpopulated railway point or a hamlet with two or three houses in it (e.g. if you're coming up to Woodside and Gladstone you would have no idea that one of them is basically a sign on the highway and the other is a sizeable town).

[greyraven8]

That is very interesting. The idea of a "roller rink" in 1886 with a sort of bubble roof seems strangely anachronistic. Was it for roller skating (which I hadn't known was a popular pastime that early) and also for ice skating in winter? Did it double as a community hall? What was it built out of? When did it meet its end? There is a story here.



Found your thread on skyscrapers by going off on a few tangents. Was doing some research on the 1886 Manitoba Baseball League for a 19th century baseball uniform online database and was combing through 1886 of the Manitoba Free Press on microfilm and saw mention of a social to raise funds in the Grand Roller Rink which will feature a baseball game on roller skates - Hotels vs Mets (September 17, 1886) and a later rematch at the Royal Roller Rink (September 21, 1886).

One of the pay online newspaper sites (newspaperarchive.com) shows what I think is a newspaper ad of a new roller rink - the Royal Roller Rink - opening very soon - I think it is from a Jan 14th edition of the paper. Now that the site was marginally useful once (hard to make out because you can't zoom without signing up) it's being a pain in the ass for me to look get it up again and look at it.



From another site:

"In the winter of 1886-87 there were reports of “hoky” or “hocky” or “hockey” played on the Red River. In the same winter, hockey was played indoors at the Royal Rink, which was originally built in 1885 as a roller skating rink. In the reported games, the “Bankers” took on “All-Comers.”
....
Some early indoor rinks were actually roller skating rinks flooded in the winter, including the Grand Roller Rink at the corner of Princess and McWilliam (now Pacific). It was soon after converted into the Thistle Curling Club (the modern Thistle CC on Minto Street burned down on June 10, 2006). In 1891, it was turned into a skating rink only and became commonly known as the Brydon Rink.

Another prominent facility was the Granite Rink, or McIntyre Rink as it was sometimes called because it was located on Albert Street behind the McIntyre Block. This facility was taken over from the Granite Curling Club in 1892 and was Winnipeg’s best hockey facility until 1898-99."
http://www.winnipegrealtors.ca/Resources/Article/?sysid=773



and and another site:
http://www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/mb_history/43/hockeyhistory.shtml#013
"Hockey, then, certainly was played in 1886-87, and it may be that a temporary club was formed in that season. However, for the next few winters the sport did not develop a following. The main reason was that no suitable indoor rink was available and even the outdoor ones were makeshift. The Royal Rink was taken over by the Granite Curling Club in 1887 and this club continued to use the building until 1892. [13]"

[13] Manitoba Free Press Oct. 27, 1887, p. 4, Nov. 2, 1887, p. 4; Granite Curling Club, “75th Anniversary Pamphlet” (unpublished paper given to author by Mr. Howard Wood), esp. p. 6.



that's as far as I've got.

*Edit - addition*
Info. from "An Immense Hold in the Public Estimation: The First Quarter Century of Hockey in Canada, 1886-1911"
http://www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/mb_history/43/hockeyhistory.shtml
In 1892 Granite Curling Club became Granite Rink (aka 'McIntyre Rink' because it was located behind the McIntyre Block on Albert St.)
Was Winnipeg's best hockey rink until 1898-99.





Did anyone have any pictures of the Royal Roller Rink besides the one I saw on this thread of the roof?

[greyraven8]

Skimming through this thread and I remember someone looking for fire insurance maps of Winnipeg. Probably not exactly what they were looking for but thought it might be useful to those that are new to historic Winnipeg research like myself.

On Flickr: for Winnipeg area has some fire insurance maps of Winnipeg, St. Boniface, and Fort Garry that I saw. Plus lots of other maps.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/manitobamaps/sets/

Also several old Henderson Directories of Winnipeg are on the Peel Prairie Provinces site:
http://peel.library.ualberta.ca/henderson.html

Some historic Manitoba Newspapers online here (and there is one Henderson Directory on this site also):

http://manitobia.ca/content/en/newspapers

Many Winnipeg history online resources links on the Winnipeg Public Library site:
http://wpl.winnipeg.ca/library/onlineresources/internet/localhist.asp

[greyraven8]

Found some fire insurance maps at Archives Canada. Aug 1906, revised May 1914.

http://collectionscanada.gc.ca/pam_archives/index.php?fuseaction=genitem.displayEcopies&lang=eng&rec_nbr=3795339&rec_nbr_list=3776286,3793405,3972166,3795339,3793458,3793447,3793410,3793409,3793408,3793407&title=Insurance+plan+of+the+city+of+Winnipeg%2C+Manitoba%2C+Volume+One%2C+August+1906%2C+revised+May+1914.+&ecopy=e008444584-v8

here one page:
http://data2.archives.ca/e/e338/e008444592-v8.jpg

here's some from 1880 (faded but mostly legible): http://collectionscanada.gc.ca/pam_archives/index.php?fuseaction=genitem.displayItem&lang=eng&rec_nbr=3776310

some other Winnipeg ones plus many other Manitoba ones:
http://collectionscanada.gc.ca/pam_archives/index.php?fuseaction=genitem.displayHierarchy&lang=eng&rec_nbr=3776310

[trebor204]

We used to have the best highway map in Canada, cartographically, but it isn't as good as it used to be, especially after the NDP decided that it would be really heartwarming and democratic if the highway map showed the entire province on the same side, even at the expense of shrinking the southern part of the province, where 98% of driving and tourist traffic actually occurs, down to the point of illegibility.

The latest Manitoba Highway Maps now has a larger enlargement of Southern Manitoba (South of Dauphin) on the other side which has a better scale than the maps of the 90s. The maps from the 2000s only had a enlargement of the Capital Region.

I decided the measure the length on the map of Southern Manitoba as a comparison:

1962 49cm
1998-1999 45cm
2013 35cm
2013 (southern MB enlargement) 58cm

[Andy6]

Found some fire insurance maps at Archives Canada. Aug 1906, revised May 1914.

http://collectionscanada.gc.ca/pam_archives/index.php?fuseaction=genitem.displayEcopies&lang=eng&rec_nbr=3795339&rec_nbr_list=3776286,3793405,3972166,3795339,3793458,3793447,3793410,3793409,3793408,3793407&title=Insurance+plan+of+the+city+of+Winnipeg%2C+Manitoba%2C+Volume+One%2C+August+1906%2C+revised+May+1914.+&ecopy=e008444584-v8

here one page:
http://data2.archives.ca/e/e338/e008444592-v8.jpg

here's some from 1880 (faded but mostly legible): http://collectionscanada.gc.ca/pam_archives/index.php?fuseaction=genitem.displayItem&lang=eng&rec_nbr=3776310



I wonder what "mushroom system" means with respect to the Lindsay Building.

This map is from May 1914, so most of the downtown office buildings are in place, with the grey colour indicating the steel-frame buildings. The Bank of Hamilton is still pink because it has not yet been replaced by the new (1916) building that we have today. The whole big block of buildings where the Galt Hotel had been has been pencilled out because it was shortly to be replaced by the (1915) Curry Building. There is still a smattering of old houses here and there, notably along Arthur and also the one next to the Royal Albert that survived until it burned three or four years ago.

With respect to the Royal Roller Rink, I thought it was around the corner of Albert and Notre Dame

[1ajs]

type of fire surpression?

[cllew]

Mushroom system as far as I can find is a type of floor design with reinforced concrete and flared concrete column heads that look like a mushroom. I guess it was a lot safer than the old wood beam and floor system used up until then.


An example can be found in this report.

http://www.minneapolismn.gov/www/groups/public/@cped/documents/webcontent/convert_279438.pdf

[Cyro]

Damn, our roads looked pretty good in the 60's, great foot traffic as well..

http://www.hillmanweb.com/brandon/mbwp29.jpg
http://www.hillmanweb.com/brandon/mbwp38.jpg

Bill Hillman -http://www.hillmanweb.com/brandon/42.html

[1ajs]

sherbrook and pacific
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10683430_611731375599951_6853266331675794006_o.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t31.0-8/10479665_611731452266610_6581541013110534149_o.jpg

salter st bridge old one
https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/1913382_611749475598141_2373751940089264678_o.jpg


norwood bridge
https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/10479102_611747275598361_3208807407013269971_o.jpg

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/10700510_611750875598001_4433418080553027640_o.jpg


source for these photos

https://www.facebook.com/groups/158868857619880/?fref=nf

[esquire]

I don't think I've ever seen pictures of the Midland Railway before... good find!

There is really an amazing amount of seldom-seen views of Winnipeg's railways in that Facebook group. It's amazing how much has changed just in the last 30 or so years.

[Bdog]

Very cool photo of the Midland Railway. Had only ever seen it on old maps before. 1ajs you should start a "Winnipeg Railway History" thread and invite those from the Facebook group to post.

[drew]

^ what was the Midland Railway?

[esquire]

^ what was the Midland Railway?

An local railway that was for many years owned by the big American railway company Great Northern. They had a yard and some transfer facilities in what is now the Centennial area (the Freight House CC is actually the old Midland Railway freight house). When the yards were removed in the early 80s, it opened up space for new development in the Centennial area... you will notice a stretch roughly parallelling Pacific Avenue from the Exchange District to Sherbrook where there are no old buildings. The Midland still exists although now it is BNSF Manitoba... their operations are based in River Heights, between Taylor and Grant, close to Borebank St.

Here's some more background: http://www.canada-rail.com/alberta/railways/midland.html

[drew]

^ interesting - thanks. I tried some somewhat fruitless research on the interweb, but I figured someone here would know more.

[esquire]

You're welcome. It's fascinating to me because I know it existed until the early 80s, but I have no memories of it (I was but a preschooler back then), and there is really no evidence of the central yards anymore. So any glimpses into that past is interesting to see.

[cllew]

apparently Midland railway was one of the main ways to get fruit from the US into Winnipeg from what I was told.

[esquire]

apparently Midland railway was one of the main ways to get fruit from the US into Winnipeg from what I was told.

Even now, it's still a pretty big deal for bulk shippers. BNSF Manitoba has running rights on CN trackage that gets you access to the US rail network direct from Winnipeg. I'm pretty sure that Vancouver is the only other place in Western Canada with that sort of direct access to the US network - it provides an alternative to the duopoly and can help keep shipping costs down.

[Bdog]

Download this photo at the highest resolution - https://www.flickr.com/photos/manitobamaps/2311845309/in/set-72157604052609937

It's kind of funny to think that this small railway had no less than four grade separations along what was maybe a 2 km stretch (Arlington, Sherbrook, William, and Tecumseh).

[drew]

^ love searching around those maps.

So this railway must have been elevated along much of it's length? On a berm?

[Riverman]

That Facebook page is full of terrific pictures.

[Bdog]

^ love searching around those maps.

So this railway must have been elevated along much of it's length? On a berm?

Yep, similar to the other elevated sections in the City, but not quite as high I don't think. If you're ever on Sherbrook (or streetview) between Ross and Pacific, you can see remnants of the berming in the field behind Freight House.

[Cyro]

Great site for manitoba photos:

Lombard St - 1950

http://www.manitobaphotos.com/1950/231.jpg

http://www.manitobaphotos.com/1950.htm

[drew]

^ great link. Some very cool (and depressing) before/after pictures from around Winnipeg there too.

[Cyro]

^ great link. Some very cool (and depressing) before/after pictures from around Winnipeg there too.


I thought some of you guys would like it.
It's pretty comprehensive and covers so many areas of Manitoba.

EDIT: New page I'll add the link again:

http://www.manitobaphotos.com

[1ajs]

112969603

[1ajs]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10421999_10205093083623868_4528797468531812810_n.jpg?oh=1c5b1baabedaad8edcb7c994b6cd4bdd&oe=55194127&__gda__=1426017329_eb8ec26f371ca428ae6c73ebf70ed40a

[biguc]

Where and when is that from?

[drew]

^ bank of Montreal at Portage and Main?

[1ajs]

bmo at portage and main around 1913 i beleave

witch is branch number 1 in the governement bank registration system

[1ajs]

look at this gem that poped up on that facebook group looking down smith toward portage from graham
https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10599520_10205221517034623_5922814329666369507_n.jpg?oh=0a02ac5feb22b5b10bc765df16844024&oe=54FBFE76

[trueviking]

^ yeah. I wrote about that a while ago.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/columnists/lots-of-history-210794001.html?device=mobile

[1ajs]

funny i missed that artical interesting

[1ajs]

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10401403_10205463873893393_6778620532220989299_n.jpg?oh=d35c07c2cdc9d203ed0503afdc805f63&oe=55270268

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10897743_10205463872013346_7707750100086292892_n.jpg?oh=a6c315430ea847103c16e1b50b8f36fb&oe=5561672A

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10933760_10205463868133249_4231771701309367594_n.jpg?oh=2d846e5c376e86de88bed56305c1cd00&oe=555985E4&__gda__=1428772017_f34511aea6de83ce71eec8d08370c7a9

[1ajs]

this fell out of a wall today nearly swepted into the trash till i looked closer neat!!
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7314/16437972225_d6cdac346a_b.jpg

[Devon]

this fell out of a wall today nearly swepted into the trash till i looked closer neat!!
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7314/16437972225_d6cdac346a_b.jpg

Killer. I love Odd Fellow imagery. What do you/what were you doing that this fell out of a wall?

[1ajs]

just doing some general cleaning around their old hall at 72 princess theres a rough area in a back room where the plaster is falling off and found it in a pile of recent debree


there was a massive fire in the building at one point so im surprized to find it

[Devon]

Nice find for sure! I had to Google the address to picture the building, but I remember being psyched on the cornice design of that building last time I was there. Makes sense that it was the Odd Fellows Hall now!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_fgykdk8XpJw/TLYTPGaWPQI/AAAAAAAACZs/SHb5YWkha3U/s1600/Three.JPG

[1ajs]

in the attic theres a bunch more peaces that belong to the cornice detail as well



heres a view from the balcony showing the 3d floor (my sound system hence why im in there)


https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3941/15442987369_c7c107acf2_b.jpg


some famouse punk bands played in that space back in the 80's

[Andy6]

this fell out of a wall today nearly swepted into the trash till i looked closer neat!!
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7314/16437972225_d6cdac346a_b.jpg

Nice, that would go well with my Northwest Commercial Travellers licence for the year 1899.

[1ajs]

added note that guy was the first grand master of all the things to find

[Authentic_City]

some famouse punk bands played in that space back in the 80's

Was that the Cauldron (circa 1987)? I saw a few shows there back in the day.

[1ajs]

sure is!

[1ajs]

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8620/15876966123_7e3b0d7970_b.jpg

[esquire]

I stumbled upon a collection of photographs that some of you might be interested in... there are quite a few unusual and new (to me, at least) scenes from around Winnipeg, although other parts of Manitoba are represented too. Era covered is from the late 50s to early 90s.

https://digital.library.yorku.ca/yul-f0184/john-warkentin-fonds

[Authentic_City]

I stumbled upon a collection of photographs that some of you might be interested in... there are quite a few unusual and new (to me, at least) scenes from around Winnipeg, although other parts of Manitoba are represented too. Era covered is from the late 50s to early 90s.

https://digital.library.yorku.ca/yul-f0184/john-warkentin-fonds

Very cool! John Warkentin was a well known historical geographer with roots in Manitoba. I remember In the 1990s he visited Ross House museum in point Douglas when I was working there as a summer student. He was visiting Winnipeg and was spending the day walking all over central Winnipeg taking pictures. He toured the museum and said he was heading up to Selkirk Ave to find some place to eat lunch. Very cool to see his collected MB photos!

[TimeFadesAway]

I stumbled upon a collection of photographs that some of you might be interested in... there are quite a few unusual and new (to me, at least) scenes from around Winnipeg, although other parts of Manitoba are represented too. Era covered is from the late 50s to early 90s.

https://digital.library.yorku.ca/yul-f0184/john-warkentin-fonds

Thanks for this! It's like the Ark of the Covenant for Winnipeg history geeks.

Pictures of the old city hall demo....PICTURES OF THE OLD CITY HALL DEMO!

I need to get a life.

[greyraven8]

I'm sure many are duplicates of those already in thread but
from Vancouver Archives site some large pics from 1891:

Looking South from City Hall:
http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/uploads/r/null/8/8/887503/71378cb3-0379-4eae-9652-466142afd1ec-A26873.jpg

http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/uploads/r/null/8/8/887494/d96deffb-21c9-47ad-881a-dac2d6c14cb3-A26868.jpg


Main Street from Portage Avenue Looking North:
http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/uploads/r/null/8/8/888033/96b2fd64-d823-4412-9b8b-d35551ae83e7-A26870.jpg


From City Hall looking North:
http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/uploads/r/null/8/9/898379/2d307bb3-a6df-4753-9393-b941b97d81d3-A26867.jpg


Main Street looking south from City Hall 1891:
http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/uploads/r/null/8/8/888043/d43a9f32-1db8-4f7d-a0eb-af207807be41-A08088.jpg

http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/uploads/r/null/8/8/888053/80185740-709b-41c2-bf33-38e4e0a9fb1f-A26872.jpg

[greyraven8]

More from Vancouver Archives of the 1890's era


Elm Park 1890?
http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/uploads/r/null/8/8/882955/83e903e4-45ca-4be4-bfa1-8879209259f0-A04113.jpg


War Memorial - St. John's Cemetery 1890?
http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/uploads/r/null/8/8/886008/bb4d5bcf-5163-4e98-a7e0-7ae49fd3d743-A04111.jpg

http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/uploads/r/null/8/7/875469/b3e2a600-feb5-4035-851d-99f167691be8-A04112.jpg


Provincial Government Buildings ca. 1890:
http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/uploads/r/null/8/9/891287/28e4ffd6-2b0e-4515-bbd8-5ceccf3f218d-A26865.jpg


Northern Pacific Hotel 1891:
http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/uploads/r/null/8/8/889669/c1ca025e-5666-4f1f-949b-48287a609523-A33696.jpg


Market Street and City Hall 189?:
http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/uploads/r/null/8/8/888215/fe844b55-f2bf-4f8e-9f38-88a8c72b4636-A08110.jpg

[alittle1]

Here is a picture that I haven't seen, but I do remember the sight as if it were yesterday.....


https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11707576_10155788033195297_755694955214059215_n.jpg?oh=e46b5ca21d5cc2fddb82c077b1faecc1&oe=560F6CBC

[greyraven8]

Royal Tour: arch, Winnipeg, MB, 1901
from McCord Museum site

"Canadian prairie cities, or at least their Anglo-Saxon populations, liked to think of themselves not as outcasts living in the middle of nowhere, but as part of the great British Empire. When the chance to demonstrate their loyalty to king and empire came up, therefore, they seized it enthusiastically. This impressive, though temporary arch was built in Winnipeg for the royal tour of 1901, when the Duke and Duchess of Cornwall and York (later, in 1910, to become King George V and Queen Mary) toured Canada on a train specially built for the occasion. The royal procession went under the arch, as thousands of cheering citizens lined the streets."

http://www.mccord-museum.qc.ca/largeimages/v6761.jpg

Also from McCord Museum site:
"Procession in honour of the coronation of George V, Winnipeg, MB, 1910"

http://www.mccord-museum.qc.ca/largeimages/025-133.jpg

[cllew]

Here is a picture that I haven't seen, but I do remember the sight as if it were yesterday.....


https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11707576_10155788033195297_755694955214059215_n.jpg?oh=e46b5ca21d5cc2fddb82c077b1faecc1&oe=560F6CBC

And even back then the city could not do public works projects properly.

The contractor hired by the city built and then tore down two piers (all the the city's expense) as the city did not get formal federal government approval for the bridge plans before installation. Apparently piers 3 and 4 were closer together than 100 feet and that was against federal regulations.

[Torti]

Does anyone remember a store that sold East Indian items; leather sandals, multi colour thin leather purses, incense, clothes, little boxes and knick knacks. It was on Portage where Portage Place currently is. I think it was two stories. Not far from the Colony Theatre. NOT O'Calcutta...this store sells t-shirts, etc., totally different items. The store I'm thinking of is no longer there. But I can still remember it, the goods, the smells....the name is driving me crazy that I can't remember it.!!

[BubberMiley]

The store I'm thinking of is no longer there. But I can still remember it, the goods, the smells....the name is driving me crazy that I can't remember it.!!

Orientique. But it was on the south side beside the Boyd Building. It burned down in the late 80s and is now an illegal parking lot.

[1ajs]

this aparently was on assinboin avenue???
https://digital.library.yorku.ca/yul-275838/assiniboine-avenue-residence

[BubberMiley]

Orientique. But it was on the south side beside the Boyd Building.

On further investigation, it must have originally been on the north side and moved to the south side, as this picture is indeed where Portage Place regretfully is now.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f196/bubbermiley/southportage.jpg (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/bubbermiley/media/southportage.jpg.html)

[drew]

Haven't seen Andy6 post in a long time..?

He was usually a pretty regular contributor to this thread. Anyone know anything?

[BigG]

On further investigation, it must have originally been on the north side and moved to the south side, as this picture is indeed where Portage Place regretfully is now.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f196/bubbermiley/southportage.jpg (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/bubbermiley/media/southportage.jpg.html)

I may be wrong, but I vaguely remember Orentique also being on Hargrave, between Ellice and Portage, where the new parkade is.

[DavefromSt.Vital]

Kelly was the contractor who created a huge scandal during construction of the Legislature. Among other things, he stole a number of columns that were intended for the Speaker's Reception Room (aka The Chandelier Room) to build his house. If you go on the tour of the Legislature you can tap on the columns that are there and find that they are imitation, not stone. Some of the columns from the house were used for the entrance of the current apartment building at Carlton and Assiniboine which replaced it.

More on Kelly house:

http://www.heritagewinnipeg.com/asset_library/enewsletter/2009/KellyNewsletter.pdf

[biguc]

Kelly was the contractor who created a huge scandal during construction of the Legislature. Among other things, he stole a number of columns that were intended for the Speaker's Reception Room (aka The Chandelier Room) to build his house. If you go on the tour of the Legislature you can tap on the columns that are there and find that they are imitation, not stone. Some of the columns from the house were used for the entrance of the current apartment building at Carlton and Assiniboine which replaced it.

More on Kelly house:

http://www.heritagewinnipeg.com/asset_library/enewsletter/2009/KellyNewsletter.pdf


Stealing from public works: A proud Winnipeg tradition.

[1ajs]

Haven't seen Andy6 post in a long time..?

He was usually a pretty regular contributor to this thread. Anyone know anything?

hes off living life

[Andy6]

Haven't seen Andy6 post in a long time..?

He was usually a pretty regular contributor to this thread. Anyone know anything?

Kind of ran out of things to say! Plus my knowledge of Winnipeg is a little stale after almost 30 years in Toronto. But I suppose that doesn't entirely excuse non-participation in the historical thread.

Thanks for inquiring!

[Andy6]

Royal Tour: arch, Winnipeg, MB, 1901
from McCord Museum site

"Canadian prairie cities, or at least their Anglo-Saxon populations, liked to think of themselves not as outcasts living in the middle of nowhere, but as part of the great British Empire.

Possibly because they were, in fact, part of the great British Empire. Also they were hardly "outcasts" but, for the most part, the best and the brightest and most ambitious people of their generation.

[Andy6]

Royal Tour: arch, Winnipeg, MB, 1901
from McCord Museum site
http://www.mccord-museum.qc.ca/largeimages/v6761.jpg

Also from McCord Museum site:
"Procession in honour of the coronation of George V, Winnipeg, MB, 1910"

http://www.mccord-museum.qc.ca/largeimages/025-133.jpg

Is either of those in Winnipeg? The first one seems to show the Volunteer Monument in the distance (visible through the large archway) but I can't understand the angle or where it could be taken from, or why some of City Hall (where the Monument stood along Main Street) wouldn't be visible. None of the buildings look familiar. Is this possibly Brandon or some other city?