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john_mclark
Mar 6, 2007, 5:07 AM
I was wondering if anyone has pictures of building models made from legos?
p.s I hope I’m not copying someone else’s thread.

fflint
Mar 6, 2007, 5:13 AM
Kevin is THE man when it comes to lego cities. Wait for it...

KevinFromTexas
Mar 6, 2007, 5:44 AM
You rang?

Here are two shots from last week. I updated the model at the request of a local developer who is planning a 400 foot residential highrise in downtown. He bought the Legos, I did the model, he photographed it, and the photos were on the City of Austin's access channel. The photos were included in the developer's presentation for the building before City Council. The building was approved. They'll break ground in 5 months.

Let me know if these photos work.

Here's an "aerial" view. Me up on a 6 foot step ladder looking over the model.
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/241/p1050829editsh4.jpg

KevinFromTexas
Mar 6, 2007, 5:45 AM
>>>>Scroll>>>>

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5941/austinlegopanosl4.jpg

john_mclark
Mar 6, 2007, 6:10 AM
Thanks Kevin this is exactly what I was wanting.

john_mclark
Mar 6, 2007, 6:11 AM
kevin do you have any more?

Tanster
Mar 6, 2007, 6:34 AM
Must of had lots of fun. Nice real cool

KevinFromTexas
Mar 6, 2007, 7:25 AM
kevin do you have any more?


Yes, I do. What are you needing them for? What are you looking for?

Here are a few more. Let me know what you're looking for and what you need them for.

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5299/p1050648editcp4.jpg

Frost Bank Tower view.
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/4655/p1050875edittv8.jpg

vid
Mar 6, 2007, 7:50 AM
Those new towers make Frost Tower look not-as-good. :(

It should have been built taller in the first place.

john_mclark
Mar 6, 2007, 7:45 PM
kevin i'm hoping to become a developer in abilene and i was hoping if this actually works in gettimg an idea across.

DecoJim
Mar 7, 2007, 8:12 PM
What Kevin is doing is trying to create an entire downtown in Lego bricks.

I have taken a different approach. By building in what is called "minifig" scale (about 1/48 scale - based on the height of the chubby little Lego people), I can show details such as the individual windows and doors. Unfortunately unless someone pays me and lets me use a space the size of a stadium (for free), I will not be able to build an entire downtown. Dispite this, I am hoping to build many of the significant structures of Detroit.

Since I started building about 3 years ago, I have built one large structure a year (plus several small to medium size buildings).

2005: The 28 story Fisher Building:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/148/398371952_cc2c6fa2a6_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/decojim/398371952/

2006: The 37 story David Stott Building:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/139/324881171_48a992e275_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/decojim/324881171/

2007: The 47 story Penobscot Building (still under construction):
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/156/398389901_ce5facf517_o.jpg

After I completed the Fisher Building model, I found out about the Michigan Lego Train Club (MichLUG.org) and I joined it. This gives me the opportunity to display my Lego buildings as part of a complete city.

This is a picture from a show MichLTC did on March 3-4, 2007 at the Rock Financial Center in Novi, Michigan (a Detroit suburb):
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/213/484936902_6088f519b5.jpg
(the buiding in the right-center foreground is a scaled-down replica of New York's Flatiron building by another club member).

Slugbelch
Mar 7, 2007, 9:40 PM
A 600+ storey supertall that went all the way as high as I could stretch until I just gave out.
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9995/91626888ki9.jpg

We didn't have all the fancy shapes and colors like you guys do now. We had to tough it out. We were the pioneers :D

Then I tried with Tinker Toys, but couldn't buld those too tall
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/184/80179741xc0.jpg http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9553/60907076fp9.jpg

Tanster
Mar 7, 2007, 11:55 PM
woow!! how did you get those type of legos?
i dont think you can buy those type of legos at a local store

foxmtbr
Mar 8, 2007, 12:03 AM
I have a few buildings right now that I have had for a while, and I plan on building a good sized city this summer, at which time I will most likely create a thread with pics. (No use posting anything right now, there's nothing special or amazing, just a few big squares.)

john_mclark
Mar 8, 2007, 12:06 AM
i've seen an e-mail where someone built a church and it was scale to the lego people. thanks DecoJim for the pics.

KevinFromTexas
Mar 8, 2007, 2:25 AM
kevin i'm hoping to become a developer in abilene and i was hoping if this actually works in gettimg an idea across.

Well, I think it does. I'm not sure of the exact scale of my models, but I do know they are to scale. I researched the street width information from the City of Austin. Most downtown streets in Austin are 80 feet wide, that includes 44 feet of lanes, (curb to curb), the rest is sidewalks. For the block sizes I've measured those with GoogleEarth. I'm also an editor at Emporis which is a website that catalogs skyscrapers from around the world. I work on most of Texas there. I collect building heights as a hobby so the heights of the buildings are correct. Most of the heights have come straight from the building's blueprints. In collecting the heights I also ask for building widths which further help in modeling them. To do the model I use GoogleEarth for images, Live Local Search, various other aerial photographs where I can find them. I also use books, magazines, calendars, postcards, and of course my own pictures. I also go downtown and sketch out the block that I'm planning on modeling. So when I do it I've got images of that block from all angles and levels.

I include everything in the model. Not just the skyscrapers, but also all the smaller older buildings. All the little 2-story historic buildings from as far back as the 1850s. Austin also has what we call "Moonlight Towers", these are 165 foot light towers that were bought and installed by the City of Austin back in 1895. They're national historic landmarks. There's 17 of them remaining out of 31 original towers. These are all over downtown and Central Austin, Central South Austin and Central East Austin, (near downtown). I include those to help with the realism. I'm also planning on adding light rail once it comes to downtown. Those will just show up as small "slats" on the street. Since the trains are fairly large, about ~10 to 12 feet tall and ~ 60 feet long, I want to include them.

A developer in Austin contacted me about using Legos as a visual reference for their project. He wanted to show people how the building would appear on the skyline in that area of downtown compared to other nearby highrises, and others that are also being planned nearby. The project is a 390 to 400 foot condominium tower that is planned for an area of downtown that is bounded to the north by old historic homes, (from the 1860s to 1880s), that have been restored and reused as light commercial space. Mostly law firms and other small office space. To the south and west there are a lot of restaurants and other small offices. To the east and southeast there are 2 taller towers planned by another developer, and to the east the main bulk of Austin's downtown skyline. There was some controversy about this project because area business owners, (just a handful), didn't like the height. They said it didn't fit the neighborhood and they wanted it scaled back to 120 feet. That would have meant a mid-rise tower that would have covered half the block, instead of 1/4. It also meant that a very popular restaurant, (Ranch 616), would have been demolished to make room for the tower. So the developer contacted me about doing the model for them. I agreed, and he purchased the Legos, dropped them off at my house, and I worked on the model for 4 1/2 days straight to get it done. He came and photographed it, and I got to keep the Legos. I'll also get a tour of the building during construction.

The important part is that the photos were used in the developer's presentation before city council, (the images were also on the city's tv station). The tower was approved at 400 feet tall on the 2nd & 3rd reading. They plan to break ground in 5 months after they have their permits and demolition of the site is complete.

The developer, Rick Hardin, seemed to be very pleased with the job I did on the model. He told me that I should get it put on display somewhere possibly at city hall or at a museum.

I can put you in touch with him if you'd like. He can give you his thoughts on how effective the model was.

I'm curious, is your project a highrise for Abilene's downtown area? Or elsewhere? I have a bunch more photos of the model, atleast over 200 of them. Let me know what kind of angles you're looking for, and I'll post a few more if need be.

I hope this helps.

JBinCalgary
Mar 8, 2007, 3:27 AM
sweet son of a whore. those are impressive

Goody
Mar 8, 2007, 4:00 AM
yea thats nuts... the big ones are unreal.


Kevin have you even thought of panting yours? That could be awesome. :yes:

nice work guys

john_mclark
Mar 8, 2007, 5:50 AM
the lego david scott building looks better than the real thing

john_mclark
Mar 8, 2007, 6:05 AM
Abilene is having somewhat of a banking boom; I think this because new banks are springing up all over town but not in downtown. So I’m hoping to develop south downtown into a central banking part of Abilene because there are so many old warehouses that could be remolded into offices or into a new building. I feel models give a better look at future building projects.

p.s. I started this thread because I love both legos and building. So I put to loves together and made my own city. I was just wondering in anyone else does this?

foxmtbr
Mar 8, 2007, 6:59 AM
^ Yep! That's when I first discovered my love for architecture, as a little kid, while my brothers built castles and dinosaurs and spaceships with legos, I built cities with skyscrapers.

DecoJim
Mar 8, 2007, 8:38 PM
woow!! how did you get those type of legos?
i dont think you can buy those type of legos at a local store
All of the Lego bricks used in my buildings can be purchased as part of sets at stores such as Toys R Us that sell Lego. The only problem is that when building a large structure, you may need many of one type of brick. That is where http://www.bricklink.com comes in handy. You can also check eBay (some people are selling specific lots of Lego instead of the more usual "this is my kid's old Lego collection").

DecoJim
Mar 8, 2007, 8:50 PM
I feel models give a better look at future building projects.

John (and Kevin):
You should definitely look at the amazing work of a friend of mine. My own buildings are in too big a scale to use for city planning but Spencer Rezkall has been developing many extraordinarily detailed "micro-scale" skyscraper models out of Lego:

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/srezkall/skyscrapers/poster.jpg
Photo montage by Spencer: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=2358691
(you can use this link to access additional photos of his models).

His Sears Tower model is about 2 feet high and yet uses over 4000 small Lego parts. The scale is larger than Kevin's Austin skyline, but nevertheless Spencer has talked about trying to do all of southern Manhattan. He gets all his parts from bricklink.com

When building a Lego skyline, I recommend trying to get the color as close as possible to the real structures (the Lego company makes several dozen colors of Lego now compared to about 6 colors in the 1970s).

john_mclark
Mar 8, 2007, 11:12 PM
this is like the stuff Buddy the Elf did in Elf

DecoJim
Mar 9, 2007, 5:46 AM
this is like the stuff Buddy the Elf did in Elf
That scene in Elf when they fight around the Lego display at the department store gave me nightmares!

Goody
Mar 9, 2007, 6:20 AM
man that is awesome I want my own little city to play with :(

vid
Mar 9, 2007, 6:36 AM
SHARE!! :(

Man if I had money I would so do that.

KevinFromTexas
Mar 9, 2007, 6:49 AM
2006: The 37 story David Stott Building:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/DecoJim/DavidStott/davidstottwsu23.jpg


DecoJim, mad props for that David Scott Building model. That is a beauty! Are you ever going to do the Guadian Building? My personal Detroit favorite!

DecoJim
Mar 9, 2007, 8:22 PM
DecoJim, mad props for that David Scott Building model. That is a beauty! Are you ever going to do the Guadian Building? My personal Detroit favorite!

Thanks Kevin!

The Guardian Building is a natural for a Lego model if the scale is large enough. The stepped arches and the multitude of miniture setbacks near the top all lend themselves to Lego brick construction. The main obsticles are time and money. The David Stott building model took several months to complete and cost over $1,000. I estimate that a Guardian Building model in the same scale would cost at least four times as much. Another problem would be getting enough of the dark orange brick (I do not paint Lego bricks!). I purchased about 2/3 of all of the then available supply of dark orange bricks from Bricklink.com (the quantities have since recovered). In other words it might take years to get the parts (unless I can appeal directly to the Lego company).

If I do build it, I will let you know!

KevinFromTexas
Mar 10, 2007, 11:30 AM
Yeah, painting Legos is out. :haha: I've never done anything like that other than to write on some of the little flags. But nothing beyond that. I have used decals from other models to put on my model cars, but that's about it. This is one more thing I like about modeling skyscrapers using Legos. It's not always an easy thing to do and there's always the chance that a building could be unbuildable. Some buildings that are round are pretty much off limits to being able to be built. I've gotten better with angles and different ways of acchieving setbacks, though.

john_mclark
Mar 10, 2007, 7:16 PM
My greatest fear came to life. I finished building my city on a coffee table and my dog, Stogie, walks by and nocks it over with his tail. Talk about a disaster at home.

DecoJim
Mar 12, 2007, 7:29 PM
My greatest fear came to life. I finished building my city on a coffee table and my dog, Stogie, walks by and nocks it over with his tail. Talk about a disaster at home.

If I can recover from this:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/DecoJim/Fisher01/fishercollapse.jpg
(my first attempt at the Fisher Building was not strong enough)

...and this:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/DecoJim/FisherBuilding/nmra_damage.jpg
(after a train show someone used a section of my Fisher Building to break his fall; you can see the hole where his hand went through the roof).

...then you should be able to rebuild!

The trick I use to prevent dogs (I have three) from damaging my Lego buildings is to make the buildings bigger and heavier than the dogs.

john_mclark
Mar 12, 2007, 10:41 PM
i would make my buildings bigger and heavier but i have a 110 lb lab and i don't have that many legos.

Rizzo
Mar 12, 2007, 11:03 PM
No offense Deco Jim, but those two last photos of the carnage are actually kind of cool. :D I know you are a master builder, so repairs shouldn't be a big challenge.

I've said this before, but your work is excellent. I look forward to seeing more.

Swede
Mar 12, 2007, 11:06 PM
If I can recover from this:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/DecoJim/Fisher01/fishercollapse.jpg
(my first attempt at the Fisher Building was not strong enough)

So if that attempt wasn't strong enough, did any bricks suffer any actual physical damage when it all went south?

/proud 4 (or 5, if you count consecutive days) time visitor of Lego-land in Billund.

DecoJim
Mar 13, 2007, 1:16 AM
So if that attempt wasn't strong enough, did any bricks suffer any actual physical damage when it all went south?

I do not think any bricks were damaged. When the building section hit the ground it appears that the kinetic energy was absorbed by the seperation of all the bricks rather than by just the bricks at the point of contact with the floor . In contrast my Lego User Group (MichLUG.org) was working on a project a few years ago for Kellogs Cereal City Museum (now closed) that included a 7 foot high Tony the Tiger made of Lego. The contract specified that it be glued since the statue would be exposed to direct contact with children (one of the most destructive forces known). Anyway, someone dropped a hand that had been glued together and since there was no "give" to it, several bricks were severly damaged and had to be replaced (a lot of work since the glue had already set).

I did learn from my Fisher Building disaster however.
1. I removed from the building all of my old Lego bricks that dated from my childhood (those bricks are older than many SSP forumers) because they were worn and caused weak points in the building.
2. I built stronger the second time with better constructed walls and more internal bracing.
3. No one will punch a hole in the Fisher Building roof again because the entire roof section is now solid Lego!



Surprisingly, I have never been to a Legoland and have only been to one Lego store (Michigan Ave store in Chicago).


Wolverine, I take no offense at all. I simply made a Lego engineering mistake and I learned from it and moved on. It was a classic blessing in disguise because if that collapse had occured while I was setting up for a public exhibit such as at a train show.... :hell:
Also, thanks for the compliment!


John_mClark, it looks like you need to purchase more Lego!:D
I have a relatively small house and small yard and a 110 pound would not have sufficent room to roam; therefore my dogs are small and are not a danger to my 230 pound Fisher Building.

Visiteur
Mar 13, 2007, 2:29 AM
There are few things out there in LegoLand more amazing than those skyscrapers. Absolutely incredible :tup: .

foxmtbr
Mar 13, 2007, 2:30 AM
Oh no!! What a tragic collapse! I'm glad to see it didn't throw you off though, and you persisted with rebuilding it. I don't think I could ever have that kind of perseverance. :tup:

KevinFromTexas
Mar 13, 2007, 7:29 AM
That sucks DecoJim.

I have some Lego skyscrapers which are my own design, nothing major, just tall narrow towers which are built in part with Legos and Duplos. My cat Mittens, who passed away last year, would knock them over a few times. I have them up on a table, "The Lego Table". I'd put them all back together within an hour. They aren't very intricate, atleast nothing like what you have, but a few are tall, the tallest being 53 inches. Now days with my new cat Jules, and my dog Sophie, they still run around on the Lego table but don't really knock anything over and the table and buildings are sturdy enough that they don't fall from them running on the table. My cat weighs 15 pounds, and my dog Sophie is an 11 pound Miniature Poodle. My "skyline" of my own towers weigh about as much my cat and dog combined, so even with both of them on the table, they're fine. My cat sleeps on the table and they both eat there also. My Lego table sort of doubles as a desk in my room.

DecoJim
Mar 14, 2007, 7:03 PM
Oh no!! What a tragic collapse! I'm glad to see it didn't throw you off though, and you persisted with rebuilding it. I don't think I could ever have that kind of perseverance. :tup:

The two accidents I had with the Fisher Building only comprised about 20% of the entire structure each time. My choice was of either rebuilding 20% or tearing down 80%. I do not give up after one little reverse! Like I said previously, it actually helped because I rebuilt it stronger which reduced a likelyhood of a repeat.

I have recently completed a sixth building for my Lego Detroit - a early 20th century factory building:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/171/439203281_ec4e841de9.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/decojim/439203281/

At the rate I am going, it will take only about 100 years to get a decent downtown built.

foxmtbr
Mar 14, 2007, 10:48 PM
Wow, that looks great!

KevinFromTexas
Mar 15, 2007, 1:22 AM
Nice job. I really like that sign. I see you have the Lego truck, too. ;) I built a trailer for mine. I cut out a Lego logo from one of my old catalogs and attached it with special tape the to trailer. It looks great.

john_mclark
Mar 15, 2007, 4:26 AM
my buildings are no where as big as those. mine are more like kevins

jsr
Mar 17, 2007, 3:13 PM
John (and Kevin):
You should definitely look at the amazing work of a friend of mine.

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/srezkall/skyscrapers/poster.jpg


Jim, Thanks for the plug.

For those that are interested, the five Lego skyscraper models pictured above will be on display next Saturday (March 24th) from 11am-6pm at the annual Brickbash (http://www.brickbash.com) event in Ann Arbor, Michigan. The tallest model, the Sears Tower, is 27" to the roof, and all five models are all properly scaled in size relative to one another (or at least within the limits of what's possible with the Lego modeling medium).

The Brickbash (http://www.brickbash.com) event is open to the public and admission is free. Click the event link for directions and more details.

KevinFromTexas
Mar 17, 2007, 4:49 PM
Good stuff, jsr. Brilliant design on the sunken plaza for the John Hancock Center...

Slugbelch
Mar 17, 2007, 7:33 PM
http://www.brickstructures.com/files/bstructarticle.pdf

... roughly 8.6MB, so the pdf may take a little while to load for some.

Imperar
Mar 26, 2007, 5:27 PM
This is my lego skyscraper :)

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/vocasla/Random/Legolol.jpg

And I built it in my class at uni :D

It is expected to reach the top of the ceiling by the end of this week.

DecoJim
Mar 27, 2007, 7:12 PM
http://www.brickstructures.com/files/bstructarticle.pdf

... roughly 8.6MB, so the pdf may take a little while to load for some.

Interesting article. While this builder's skyscrapers are pretty impressive, his claims to have developed a structural system are perhaps less impressive.
I could be wrong but it seems that Lego technic beams connected together using the multi-studded 1x1 bricks would not hold up very well under tensile stress (which may result when a force acts upon one side of the building - some beams are under compression others are under tension). UNLESS THEY ARE GLUED!

I make no pretense that I construct my structures in a prototypical manner. In fact they are probably built in a method closer to that of the older masonary high-rise structures such as the original Monadnock Building in Chicago (it has very thick load-bearing walls).

Real skyscrapers are not required to be portable. Mine do have to be and this would be a major problem if the building was constructed with a frame and curtain wall. The question would be: How to separate the frame into portable sections and still maintain strength?

* * *

I am not the only one building large Lego skyscrapers for display in a train layout. Here is a shot I took of part of the Central Ohio Lego Train Club layout at the 2005 NMRA National Train Show in Cincinnati:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/DecoJim/NMRA2005/coltc07.jpg
Skyscraper buffs should be able to recognize some of the buildings or at least the city.

Alxx611
Mar 27, 2007, 11:05 PM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/Alxx611/legos/DSCN0948.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/Alxx611/legos/DSCN0949.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/Alxx611/legos/DSCN0951.jpg

HomeInMyShoes
Mar 28, 2007, 12:53 AM
You rang?

Here are two shots from last week. I updated the model at the request of a local developer who is planning a 400 foot residential highrise in downtown. He bought the Legos, I did the model, he photographed it, and the photos were on the City of Austin's access channel. The photos were included in the developer's presentation for the building before City Council. The building was approved. They'll break ground in 5 months.



That's awesome Kevin.

Here's one shot from my childhood Lego days.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h217/HomeInMyShoes/General/Lego.jpg

Daquan13
Mar 28, 2007, 1:06 AM
John (and Kevin):
You should definitely look at the amazing work of a friend of mine. My own buildings are in too big a scale to use for city planning but Spencer Rezkall has been developing many extraordinarily detailed "micro-scale" skyscraper models out of Lego:

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/srezkall/skyscrapers/poster.jpg
Photo montage by Spencer: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=2358691
(you can use this link to access additional photos of his models).

His Sears Tower model is about 2 feet high and yet uses over 4000 small Lego parts. The scale is larger than Kevin's Austin skyline, but nevertheless Spencer has talked about trying to do all of southern Manhattan. He gets all his parts from bricklink.com

When building a Lego skyline, I recommend trying to get the color as close as possible to the real structures (the Lego company makes several dozen colors of Lego now compared to about 6 colors in the 1970s).



I so f**king want one of these models to build, especially the one with the Twins, but I'm finding it awefully hard to find out about, much less buy.

Does ANYONE know how I can go about getting any of these sets? Any help that you can offer will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.:banana:

jsr
Mar 28, 2007, 2:33 AM
I so f**king want one of these models to build, especially the one with the Twins, but I'm finding it awefully hard to find out about, much less buy.

Does ANYONE know how I can go about getting any of these sets? Any help that you can offer will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.:banana:

Sorry to disappoint, but they are one-of-kind custom fan built models - not sets sold by Lego.

DecoJim
Mar 28, 2007, 2:38 AM
I so f**king want one of these models to build, especially the one with the Twins, but I'm finding it awefully hard to find out about, much less buy.

Does ANYONE know how I can go about getting any of these sets? Any help that you can offer will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.:banana:

Daquan:
I hate to break it to you but these are not standard Lego kits. These skyscrapers are custom designed and built by my friend Spencer from individual parts that he orderered from Bricklink.com. As far as I know, the Lego company has never sold a kit of a skyscraper even though it displays many large ones at its Legoland parks.

Unless Spencer decides to start a business selling these designs as sets, you will not find them for sale. The great thing about Lego is that anyone who has the time, patience, and money can at least attempt to build something similar.

Check out the link that SlugBelch provided earlier - a guy IS selling kits that allow you to build the Sears Tower, ESB, etc in a somewhat larger scale - although the exterior walls are actually a custom wall unit rather than an official Lego part.

I would think that Lego would have a hit on its hands if they did market and sell a line of famous landmarks in a micro-scale (so as to be affordable).
Lego just recently demonstrated that it is aware of a more architecturally inclined group of builders with the release of the Corner Cafe - a three story building that sells for $140 and has over 2,000 parts.

DecoJim
Mar 28, 2007, 2:41 AM
Sorry to disappoint, but they are one-of-kind custom fan built models - not sets sold by Lego.

Spencer, I had taken the liberty of answering for you; I did not realizer you were online.

BTW have you considered starting a business selling these as kits?
Considering the Michigan economy these days, it might help to have a backup plan!

Realistically, I am sure that lack of parts availability would make it very difficult to even put out a limited edition production run of these as skyscraper kits.

jsr
Mar 28, 2007, 2:49 AM
BTW have you considered starting a business selling these as kits?


I'd imagine these buildings are registered trademarks, so some sort of licensing agreement would be needed first. Then to create the 500+ pages of building instructions, and procure the thousands of pieces... :no:

jsr
Mar 28, 2007, 3:01 AM
I should mention that Brickbash event went well last weekend. I had the models on display side by side and I created some information sheets featuring facts, photos, and a brief history of each building.

Here are some pics on Flickr that were taken by a visitor to the event. (I left my camera at home:shrug:)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/147/433023695_f8303efc19.jpg?v=0
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/163/433023755_d49cae174d.jpg?v=0

Brickbash '07 Photo Gallery (http://www.flickr.com/photos/amothersheart/sets/72157600025137863/)

foxmtbr
Mar 28, 2007, 4:54 AM
Excellent!

KevinFromTexas
Mar 28, 2007, 1:02 PM
JSR and DecoJim,

how do you guys transport these? I've had a few folks, (developers), ask/suggest that I display my model in their building, or a musuem. How are you guys transporting your models? All of mine are on the 15x15 inch baseplates, since my model is of the entire downtown area it's set up a bit differently than your's. Any suggestions? I've never had to transport it other than carrying it into the backyard in pieces for pictures or taking a few nextdoor to show my grandma. I'm not exactly keen on the idea of letting my model go out for display, though. It's my baby. ;) Just curious as to how you guys hual your Lego marvels around.

And I finally got hip with the times and joined Brickshelf and posted a few of my models. The downtown model, and a few cars I've done. I have more to add, I just need to photograph them.
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=KevinFromTexas

DecoJim
Mar 28, 2007, 7:10 PM
JSR and DecoJim,

how do you guys transport these? I've had a few folks, (developers), ask/suggest that I display my model in their building, or a musuem. How are you guys transporting your models? All of mine are on the 15x15 inch baseplates, since my model is of the entire downtown area it's set up a bit differently than your's. Any suggestions? I've never had to transport it other than carrying it into the backyard in pieces for pictures or taking a few nextdoor to show my grandma. I'm not exactly keen on the idea of letting my model go out for display, though. It's my baby. ;) Just curious as to how you guys hual your Lego marvels around.

And I finally got hip with the times and joined Brickshelf and posted a few of my models. The downtown model, and a few cars I've done. I have more to add, I just need to photograph them.
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=KevinFromTexas

Kevin:
My large buildings are designed in sections which generally are then placed in large 30-50 gallon plastic tubs and surrounded with some bubble wrap. There are times when I simply stack all the sections of the Fisher Building into a Jeep Cherokee with little protection (I just fix the minor damage when I get to the train show); once the building is loaded into the Cherokee, there is only enough room for the driver.

Spencer (JSR) is from my observation much more careful in his packaging and transport of his buildings.

Niether of these cases are particulary helpful since we only have to move about 6-12 buildings however large. I would imagine that you would not want to have to individually wrap all of your buildings for transport. If you try to leave the buildings in place, you have the problem that many buildings may fall over if the baseplate flexes. One idea that you may want to consider would be to obtain or create special wood or strong cardboard boxes (stackable) that are perhaps 16 x 16 x 8 inches (the 3rd dimension should be high enough for most if not all of your buildings). If the baseplate is supported during transport, the buildings should stay put. Another idea is to glue the baseplates to masonite or plywood. The baseplates are $10 each so you can always buy more if you want to have baseplates that are not modified in this manner.
I hope this helps.
-Jim

john_mclark
Mar 29, 2007, 5:58 AM
hey decoJim if you don't mind me asking, but how much have you invested in you lego towers? I ask becasue i hope to build my own lego skyscraper someday.

DecoJim
Mar 29, 2007, 7:07 PM
hey decoJim if you don't mind me asking, but how much have you invested in you lego towers? I ask becasue i hope to build my own lego skyscraper someday.

I put all the receipts into a shoebox and never added them up. I can give you a few estimates however:
1. Fisher Building: $2,500+
2. David Stott: $ 1,500+
3. Penobscot: $ 2,000+
(I know, you are all thinking that I am crazy!)

I have also earned some of this money back by selling excess Lego through my store on bricklink.com and by helping to build a commissioned Lego sculpture.

My advice would be to be on the lookout for clearance sales. To get started on the Fisher Building, I purchased 133 basic 500 peice buckets at (several) Meijers when they had a clearance at $7.26 each. There have been fewer sales lately so Bricklink or eBay is probably your best bet if you want to get started accumulating parts now. If you want to build a large structure, you might want to do a white building for your first skyscraper as it is the cheapest (reasonably) realistic color. Of the three buildings above, the David Stott used many fewer parts but was almost expensive since the dark organge color costs about three times as much as white.

foxmtbr
Mar 29, 2007, 10:43 PM
^ Do you ever win cash prizes or anything for your buildings?

Derek
Mar 29, 2007, 11:27 PM
I put all the receipts into a shoebox and never added them up. I can give you a few estimates however:
1. Fisher Building: $2,500+
2. David Stott: $ 1,500+
3. Penobscot: $ 2,000+
(I know, you are all thinking that I am crazy!)



oh my!!

JBinCalgary
Mar 30, 2007, 3:26 AM
if you like it, then its worth it

Ersh
Apr 3, 2007, 4:10 AM
Wow...I didn't know there were so many Lego skyscraper-builders here!

DecoJim...I've seen your amazing work on Brickshelf...Your Detroit buildings are incredible. Your David Scott building inspired me to start build an Art Deco building similar in size a year ago. Unfortunately it sits partially completed because the primary color for my building - tan - is hard to come by these days.

jsr - I've seen your stuff on Brickshelf too and they're pretty amazing too! Keep up the awesome work!

I've got my own Lego city too. (I need to take a picture of the city as a whole. I only have pictures of the individual buildings.)

Here's some of my buildings:

First - the 8'6" Chrysler Building:

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ersh777/LEGOlopolis/ChryslerBuilding/0000_chrysler_with_spire.jpg

Here's a building I designed...inspired by several Dubai buildings:

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ersh777/LEGOlopolis/ModernOfficeTower/modern05.jpg

Another building I designed...Inspired by Realm in Buckhead:

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ersh777/LEGOlopolis/SapphireTower/0_stc_tower.jpg

And a few more "generic" looking buildings I made:

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ersh777/LEGOlopolis/OfficeTower1/officetower1_01.jpg http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ersh777/LEGOlopolis/Skyscraper1/a_skyscraper_1.jpg

And some storefronts:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ersh777/LEGOlopolis/Storefronts/00_allstorefronts.jpg

Sorry for the large images...It's midnight and don't feel like resizing them. :P

JManc
Apr 3, 2007, 5:48 AM
here's my lego sears tower.

http://www.pbase.com/mancusoj/image/76592572.jpg

made it about 15 years ago and spray painted it. next to it is a card board bank of china i made about 10 years ago and then a fuzzy eiffel tower i got in paris a couple of months ago. i also have a fuzzy tower of the americas (http://www.world-guides.com/images/san_antonio/san_antonio_tower_americas6.jpg) (san antonio) too.

DecoJim
Apr 4, 2007, 6:27 PM
First - the 8'6" Chrysler Building:

Your Chrysler is pretty impressive; its the best one I have seen. It looks to be about 1/2 the scale of the Lego Chrysler building at Legoland. When I first saw this on brickshelf, I was slightly annoyed that it was taller than my own tallest building at the time. Damn that spire!

The 2nd of your "generic" buildings looks like a short version of the Farmers Trust Co. Building in lower Manhattan.

(also thanks for the compliment)

-Jim

john_mclark
Apr 8, 2007, 7:14 AM
i would like to thank everyone who has posted on this thread. so thanks once again

Motorvilleboy
Apr 27, 2007, 1:49 AM
Hi folks,
I've been meaning to write for a while now. Wanted to share some pics of my own Lego skyline. I'm a neighbor & friend of DecoJim and we've been comparing our Detroits and stories about finding the pieces we need.

Where he's concentrating on detail, I'm going for breadth. I have about 150 buildings done now. My Detroit made its public debut at BrickBash last year. Couldn't attend this year, unfortunately.

My scale is one stud = 20 feet, so I've had to be as precise as I could, though I've had to architecturally paraphrase in some cases. Hopefully once I complete all the buildings within the freeways that define downtown, I'll go back and rebuild to better match color. If you've ever seen a map of downtown Detroit, you'll know what a mess of odd-shaped blocks much of it is. That's where I'm having a hard time making buildings fit the angles I need.

Enough blab for now. I'd have posted some pics, but I can't get them attached for some reason. Help!

Mike

Swede
Apr 27, 2007, 11:04 AM
^To get images to work is a few simple steps. first, upload them to an on-line image host (or your ISP). Then link to the on-line image thusly: {img}http://www.host.com/imagefilename.jpg{/img} replacing {} with [].

john_mclark
Apr 30, 2007, 2:59 AM
hell yes motervilleboy you can get in on the thread

KevinFromTexas
Apr 30, 2007, 3:28 AM
Yes, please do post your models. I'm always interested in seeing what other people have done with their Legos and how they've come up with methods of doing angles especially.

It sounds like your model is similar to mine in scale. For me, one stud equals 20 feet as well.

You can see my model of Downtown Austin in my Brickshelf gallery. It's linked in my sigline below under "City of Legos".

DecoJim
Jun 10, 2007, 4:00 PM
This thread has been quiet for some time.

I do not know why Mike has not posted his micro-scale Detroit but he may have gotten busy; I sent him a couple of emails....

Anyway, I just have completed another building that I will be adding to my minifig-scale Detroit skyline at the NMRA 2007 National Train Show (July 28-30 at Cobo Conference Center, Detroit).

The Griswold Building - Detroit, Michigan.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1195/537351938_7ecbda25c9.jpg
Flickr Link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/decojim/537351938/in/set-72157594424482997/ (more photos)

The architect of the Griswold Building was Albert Kahn who designed over 1,000 buildings including skyscrapers, mansions, and modern auto-factories.

-Jim

navyweaxguy
Jun 10, 2007, 4:07 PM
:worship: I'm not worthy.. god you guys rule....

ERSH i need those store fronts for city i'm working on for my kids lego train... I love it!

foxmtbr
Jun 10, 2007, 6:24 PM
Woah! I thought that was a real building until I saw the lego men and cars at the bottom! :tup:

SpeedoPro
Jun 10, 2007, 11:42 PM
wow, i m beyond impressed!! it must be very expensive to build these masterpieces. how much would building something like this cost? how do u determine how many blocks u need? is there some kind of computer softwear u can use to draw this up first?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1195/537351938_7ecbda25c9.jpg


from one of the links i found this pic. it looks like some type of computer drafting that tells u exactly what kind/how many blocks u need??

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/srezkall/skyscrapers/Citigroup/ldraw/citicorp5.jpg

Rizzo
Jun 11, 2007, 4:40 AM
Very well done, deco jim. I hope to see your work in person sometime.

DecoJim
Jun 11, 2007, 7:01 PM
it must be very expensive to build these masterpieces. how much would building something like this cost? how do u determine how many blocks u need? is there some kind of computer softwear u can use to draw this up first?

As to the cost, see my prior response to a similar question (post #61 of this thread).

There are a couple of software programs (LCAD - Lego CAD and LDraw - Lego Draw) that do allow one to completely design a project and to calculate all parts needed. I do not use these, since I get enough of computers with my programming job and checking email, ssp, brickshelf, flickr, etc. I estimate the parts I need by building a sample section of the facade and then I multiply the parts needed for that by the ratio (size of entire buidling : size of sample facade). Sometimes I order too many parts but they will often get used in the next project.

-Jim

DecoJim
Jun 11, 2007, 7:11 PM
Very well done, deco jim. I hope to see your work in person sometime.

Thanks! Since I do not have enough space in my house to display these models properly as a city, probably the best way to see them would be to attend the NMRA 2007 National Train Show at Cobo Conference Center in Detroit* on July 27-29 (no, I am not getting paid by NMRA). The buildings I have made will be part of a massive multi-Lego train club layout. An area of 11,000 sq.ft. has been allocated for the Lego display (about 1/3 of that will be actual train layout, the rest is space for visitors). Just the Michigan Lego Train Club layout will measure 30x40 feet. It will be the first time that all of my Detroit skyscraper models will be displayed at the same time.

* The NMRA NTS is held in a different city each year so it could be decades before it comes back to Detroit.

navyweaxguy
Jun 11, 2007, 7:49 PM
You need to take like 200-500 pictures while you are there :D we wanna see everything :)

Mocholate
Jun 11, 2007, 8:14 PM
wow !!

i would like to do a Lego city but here it cost $10 for a 25x25cm baseplate

KevinFromTexas
Jun 13, 2007, 4:28 AM
Very nice, DecoJim. I like the color. The brick wall on the left with all the different colors looks great.

DecoJim
Jun 18, 2007, 3:31 AM
Here is a pic of a recent MichLTC display in Canton, MI:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1009/560196953_fe7769b857.jpg

The large buildings from left to right are Chase One bank, Griswold Building, 1001 Woodward (all Detroit buildings) and on the right is a replica of New York's Flatiron building. The Detroit People Mover's elevated track is visible in the foreground.

This was a 10x15 foot display. MichLTC's display at NMRA National Train Show in July will by 30x40 feet. Nine other Lego train clubs from other states will also have displays.

foxmtbr
Jun 18, 2007, 6:48 AM
Wow!!

KevinFromTexas
Jun 18, 2007, 6:27 PM
Cool. Nice touch with the Batwing.

foxmtbr
Jun 18, 2007, 8:10 PM
Did you make all those buildings?

DecoJim
Jun 19, 2007, 2:52 AM
Did you make all those buildings?
No, I made about 1/3 of the buildings on the layout. This includes the Griswold Building and a 1960s style white midrise building barely visible in the picture. I also provided some smaller buildings not visible in this picture including the three story factory that I posted earlier in this thread.

Most of the other buildings including the two other Detroit buildings and the Flatiron visible in the picture were constructed by Chris L., another member of MichLTC (I do not think he is an active member of SSP). In his day job, Chris actually helps build and refurbish real buildings; specifically he installs fire supression systems. He has worked in downtown Detroit including at the restoration of the 22 story Dime Building (which was designed by Chicago's famed Daniel Burnham). I pushed the concept of trying to recreate part of downtown Detroit for the NMRA show in July and he agreed so we are both busy building more structures for that show.

One of the more eccentric members of MichLTC provided the Batwing and other superhero related items, but the children who view the display often like those elements more than, for example, a replica of an building designed by an architect who has been dead for almost 65 years!

foxmtbr
Jun 19, 2007, 5:54 AM
Awesome! I can't wait to see some pics from the NMRA show. Keep up the great work! :tup:

DecoJim
Jun 28, 2007, 11:47 PM
These Lego skyscrapers make quite a skyline (can you name them all?):

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/PepaQuin/Events/Brickworld07/brickworld1513.jpg
Picture taken by brickshelf user PepaQuin

These skyscraper models are not mine. They were displayed at Brickworld in Chicago last weekend. The Burj Dubai model is about 16 feet high. It is the highest privately* built Lego model of which I am aware.

* Lego skyscrapers models at Legoland theme parks range up to at least 23 feet high.

Dac150
Jun 28, 2007, 11:52 PM
1. Sears Tower
2. 7 South Deaborne (never built)
3. Empire State Building
4. Burj Dubai
5. WTC Tower 2
6. John Hanncock Center
7. Jin Mao Building

SpeedoPro
Jul 1, 2007, 3:13 PM
These Lego skyscrapers make quite a skyline (can you name them all?):

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/PepaQuin/Events/Brickworld07/brickworld1513.jpg


that is unbelievable!!! Do they all have the same scale...1/72 myabe??
how would u know about these events? i sure would luv to attend one.

Ersh
Jul 2, 2007, 4:58 AM
I've been drooling over those buildings on Brickshelf recently. What I wouldn't give to have enough black to build me a Sears Tower like that! :slob:

DecoJim
Jul 2, 2007, 9:03 PM
that is unbelievable!!! Do they all have the same scale...1/72 myabe??
how would u know about these events? i sure would luv to attend one.
The skyscrapers are all the same scale but it is more like 1:180 scale judging by the approximate height of the Sears Tower model (8 feet vs 1450 feet - not counting masts in both cases).
Adam Tucker is the builder so he would know the exact scale: he has kits for sale under the name BrickStructures that used modified Lego elements and non-lego wall panels. The picture I posted are complete Lego but are not for sale as far as I know.

A good place to check on Lego related events is:
http://news.lugnet.com/events/

KevinFromTexas
Jul 3, 2007, 1:50 PM
Awesome. Man, those are beautiful. I remember when I was in middle school and high school hating gym, but loving the idea of the high ceilings easily accomodating huge skyscraper models like those. :D

Red UM Rebel
Jul 3, 2007, 2:22 PM
Here's a building I designed...inspired by several Dubai buildings:

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ersh777/LEGOlopolis/ModernOfficeTower/modern05.jpg



I absolutely love the look of this building! I hope the design proliferates one day!

DecoJim
Jul 6, 2007, 6:28 PM
As some of you may have noticed, I have been mentioning the NMRA national train show that will include a train layout with many large skyscraper models built of Lego.

Here is a funny thing.
The NMRA train show website (http://www.nationaltrainshow.org/)
has an image that includes two of MY pictures (that they used without asking):
http://www.nationaltrainshow.org/NTS07_Legos.jpg
Note the text at the bottom. The image of the building in the upper left that they say is Detroit's David Stott Building is in fact a picture I took of my own Lego model in my backyard!

foxmtbr
Jul 6, 2007, 9:55 PM
^ :haha: Congratulations, that's just how good it is. :tup:

Austin55
Jul 7, 2007, 2:14 AM
I have tons of legos but m not a pro.i build stuff like kevin from texas. those are amazing. i wnt to see them in prison!!!there should be a lego forum here.

rbowk
Jul 7, 2007, 3:36 AM
i built a really cool lego city if you want i will do it again and send pics of it

DecoJim
Jul 11, 2007, 1:35 AM
Sure, go ahead!

* * *

In the meantime, take a look at a five foot replica that someone constructed of the Taipei 101. One of the challenges of building with Lego is to construct non-traditional building shapes and the person who built this Lego model seemed to do just fine.

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/daweidrake/TaiPei101/taipei101_all_101_stories_012_resized.jpg
Building and photo by Brickshelf.com member: daweidrake.