SAN DIEGO | Boom Rundown, Vol. 2 [Archive] - Page 66

202_Cyclist

Jun 3, 2011, 11:15 AM

bmfarley:
There are three types of trolley's that do not need an overhead contact system, or OCS. Ones with a extension cord, batteries, or they are horse drawn.

But actually, there is at least one in Europe that does use battery power for a short distance and along a level grade. But, only to bridge a short distance in a historical area where poles and OCS are not accepted. Did I say it was a short distance?

DC is looking at alternatives to overhead wires for some of our planned streetcar routes because of the hysterics of some streetcar opponents. They are concerned the 1/8 inch catenary wires will ruin views on certain streets in the District (nevermind pollution from automobiles does a lot more to degrade views and I've never heard these people concerned about traffic signals adversely impacting important views).

Several cities use alternatives to overhead wires, including Bordeaux, Nice, Lisbon, and I think perhaps Dubai. Bordeaux uses a ground-based power system, while other technology uses, as you mentioned a battery to capture and store energy from the overhead wire portions of the route.

Here is a posting from the Transport Politic about it:

http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2009/01/22/bombardier-presents-new-catenary-free-streetcar/

There was also an article from this year's annual Transportation Research Board meeting by a consultant at Parson Brinckerhoff about the different types of streetcar power technology. Send me a separate email and I'll forward it.

202_Cyclist

Jun 3, 2011, 11:16 AM

@Brantw:

Great photo of the BA aircraft. I didn't realize Lindbergh Field is long enough to accommodate a 777.

HurricaneHugo

Jun 3, 2011, 7:30 PM

747 I think.

I heard that 747s can't be fully loaded to land/take off from here?

They do come to visit once in a while though.

http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceout.gif

brantw

Jun 3, 2011, 10:39 PM

747 I think.

I heard that 747s can't be fully loaded to land/take off from here?

They do come to visit once in a while though.

http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceout.gif

That is correct. Here is a shot I found of a Saudi Arabian Boeing 747 from 2007 sitting on the runway. I also saw a Delta 747 out there a couple of months ago. What's crazy is that I read on Wikipedia that one of the Boeing 777 engines alone could power a 747... not sure how they figured that out.

So Cal Metro (http://www.flickr.com/photos/southerncalifornian/)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1330/603828317_c55234e24a_b.jpg

bmfarley

Jun 4, 2011, 1:43 AM

That is correct. Here is a shot I found of a Saudi Arabian Boeing 747 from 2007 sitting on the runway. I also saw a Delta 747 out there a couple of months ago. What's crazy is that I read on Wikipedia that one of the Boeing 777 engines alone could power a 747... not sure how they figured that out.

So Cal Metro (http://www.flickr.com/photos/southerncalifornian/)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1330/603828317_c55234e24a_b.jpg
So Cal Metro takes great photos! Best and larget collection of public vehicles and airplanes if you ask me. He may be on this site from time to time too.

Derek

Jun 5, 2011, 2:47 AM

That's not even a full size 747, that's the 747SP, which is significantly shorter! :P

mongoXZ

Jun 5, 2011, 2:56 AM

Some cousins of mine from Florida flew in for a visit this week and this morning I decided to show them around downtown. I accidentally took the wrong exit into Barrio Logan and I was quite surprised at how the neighborhood is quite revitalized with new apartments and commercial centers cleaned up. My guests probably would have never known that this is some runned-down hood! I then drove into East Village and checked out where the Chargers stadium would be and the library construction progress. The East Village was unexpectedly vibrant for this time of day, residents (including homeless) strolling around everywhere. There was a new warehouse converted into a gym (Cross-Fit?) near Petco Park. Beautiful people packing the sidewalks! We then ate at Nicky Rottens in the Gaslamp and the people watching was unbelievable.

Needless to say my cousins were blown away and told me they wished they lived here. LOL

HurricaneHugo

Jun 5, 2011, 3:45 AM

Lipani

Jun 5, 2011, 4:27 AM

Interesting interview with British Airways' CEO:

Q: If the daily inbound and outbound flight proves successful, what are the prospects for additional flights, or is there even enough of a market for expansion?

A: We’ve got flights out of San Francisco, Los Angeles and San Diego. In the immediate term, that looks like a good spread. I don’t think it will support a second flight. But if the market warranted it, we could put a bigger aircraft here.

Q: The new nonstop flight has been touted by San Diego’s tourism industry leaders as a way to boost visitor spending here. What sort of boost, if any, do you expect in spending in London and beyond from the flight?

A: You’ve got fantastic attractions over here, so San Diego is a good tourist attraction, and we want to attract visitors to London, without need to transfer through Los Angeles, and we have a number of coming events in London: the Queen’s (Diamond) Jubilee, the 2012 Olympics, and London is a pretty cosmopolitan destination. Everything helps. It’s all incremental.

Q: San Diego is hoping to attract more nonstop international flights. What do you see as the pluses and minuses of Lindbergh Field for overseas flights?

A: In terms of an airport, it’s a nice-size airport. L.A. is clearly much bigger, but you have the attraction of a smaller airport that’s easy to get through. One of the things people look for is the ease of entry, and that’s something our customers look at in terms of (customs). We’re not looking at San Diego as a hub but a destination, so we’re not looking for the airport to expand.
Union-Tribune (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jun/03/british-airways-ceo-says-3rd-time-will-be-charm/)

SDfan

Jun 6, 2011, 4:11 AM

^^ That last bit says so much "we're not looking for the airport to expand" ... Hmm...

Filambata

Jun 8, 2011, 4:59 AM

^^ The new commercial center on Cesar Chavez (the huge dirt lot) is finally going to break ground (or already did?) so that should spruce up the neighborhood a bit more.

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/voiceofsandiego.org/content/tncms/assets/editorial/9/ad/415/9ad415d4-83f1-11df-9d21-001cc4c03286-revisions/4c2aafe3f1aa3.image.jpg

Yes, that project, called Mercado del Barrio, broke ground in March 2011 and is anticipated to be completed by the end of 2012. It'll feature 90+ affordable rental units and a Northgate Gonzalez market. The Redevelopment Agency and Housing Commission contributed funds to the project. The new apartments you see in Barrio Logan (Los Vientos, La Entrada, and Gateway) are all redevelopment affordable housing projects. http://www.sandiego.gov/redevelopment-agency/barriolo.shtml

SDfan

Jun 9, 2011, 4:43 AM

This is pretty cool:

http://www.envision2050sd.com/

HurricaneHugo

Jun 10, 2011, 4:45 PM

Good job NIMBYs, now we get diddly squat for Balboa Park!

"Qualcomm co-founder Irwin Jacobs suspended work Wednesday on his $40 million plan for Balboa Park after a City Council committee vote of nonsupport.

Mayor Jerry Sanders announced Jacobs' decision, and Jacobs confirmed it in a call from U-T columnist Diane Bell as he was leaving on a trip to Alaska.

“I will hold back and wait and see what happens," Jacobs said.

Jacobs also said he continues to believe in his plan but “if this takes very long (for the city to get on board) we’re going to miss the centennial date" - a reference to the upcoming 2015 celebration of the Panama-California Exposition."

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jun/08/jacobs-suspends-work-balboa-park-plan/

I'll take the bypass bridge and 40 million in renovation over doing nothing to the park.

Ideally they'd build a parking garage to the west of the Cabrillo bridge instead of the bypass bridge.

kpexpress

Jun 10, 2011, 10:50 PM

Good job NIMBYs, now we get diddly squat for Balboa Park!

I'll take the bypass bridge and 40 million in renovation over doing nothing to the park.

Ideally they'd build a parking garage to the west of the Cabrillo bridge instead of the bypass bridge.

It wouldn't cost 40 Million to straight up kick the cars off El Prado and the Bridge entirely. The bypass is the biggest mistake ever, all the other options weren't given a fair shake.

HurricaneHugo

Jun 11, 2011, 3:18 AM

Was there a render for the bypass somewhere?

staplesla

Jun 13, 2011, 3:23 AM

The California High-Speed Rail Authority has been holding dozens of workshops along the proposed corridor of the Los Angeles-to-San Diego train and four are scheduled for San Diego County this week.

While engineers and planners have been laying out the possible routes the train might travel and answering questions from residents, these sessions — and one more on June 30 — could be the last appreciable work for at least a year on this section of the railway.

The budget before the Legislature has eliminated all funding for the Los Angeles-to-San Diego section for next year....

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jun/12/high-speed-rail-workshops-held-uncertainty-looms/

202_Cyclist

Jun 13, 2011, 5:48 PM

This looks like an interesting business model. The carrier is going to use Embraer 170 aircraft, with a 3-class configuration, so it's not a huge amount of seats they need to fill up. Northern SD Co., certainly has a lot of very affluent residents who might use Palomar rather than Lindbergh. I looked on Mapquest and it is also 38 mi from the southern OC towns to Palomar vs 21 miles to Santa Ana/John Wayne (SNA), a longer trip certainly, but perhaps competitive if this carrier offers inexpensive flights or there is free parking at the airport. Additionally, Palomar is by far the closest commercial airport from the fast-growing Riverside Co boom-towns or Murrieta and Temecula. In addition to the SD Co. O&D traffic, there are 230K+ residents in southern OC and western Riverside County for whom Palomar would be a competitive airport.

New airline prepares for takeoff from Carlsbad field

By Robert J. Hawkins
June 12, 2011
San Diego Union-Tribune

"San Diego County could soon become home base to the first commercial airline since the iconic Pacific Southwest Airlines disappeared into the folds of USAir in the 1980’s.

http://media.signonsandiego.com/img/photos/2011/06/10/ted-vallas_t352.jpg?980751187beea6fc26a3a9e93795d379f58af1c4
Ted Vallas, the 90-year-old founder of California Pacific Airlines, stands before his first counter at Palomar Airport in Carlsbad. The airline is currently seeking certification from the Federal Aviation Administration and hopes to be in the air in early 2012. — Charlie Neuman / U-T

In fact, California Pacific Airlines already exists on paper and in the physical presence of a check-in counter at the McClellan-Palomar Airport in Carlsbad. A management team and operations plans are assembled and a small fleet of Embraer 170 aircraft is waiting in the wings.

All that is needed for the airline to begin service to the first half-dozen cities on its itinerary is Federal Aviation Administration certification. And that, says the 90-year-old founder of the airline, Ted Vallas, is close enough to begin planning for an early 2012 launch..."

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jun/12/new-airline-prepares-takeoff-carlsbad-field/

HurricaneHugo

Jun 13, 2011, 7:42 PM

mongoXZ

Jun 14, 2011, 1:38 AM

A few months old but worth a read. . .
The resurgence of San Diego's Little Italy

SAN DIEGO (CNNMoney) -- Walk down Little Italy's main drag and you see coffee-sipping window shoppers brush past old Italian men relaxing in the spotless piazza. New businesses keep popping up, the restaurants are packed and condo construction is in full swing here in downtown San Diego.

From the outside, it's easy to forget this is cash-strapped California, where Gov. Jerry Brown has slashed billions of dollars in public services since taking office. Or San Diego, a city whose mayor is looking for ways to close a $56 million budget gap by the end of June.

Little Italy has been picking up the slack where the city falls short for more than a decade.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/2011/04/11/real_estate/san_diego_little_italy/little_italy.top.jpg
http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/11/real_estate/san_diego_little_italy/index.htm

Quixote

Jun 14, 2011, 11:41 AM

What is the latest on the status of the New Chargers Stadium? I don't want the Chargers to move to LA, BTW.

mello

Jun 14, 2011, 3:59 PM

What is the latest on the status of the New Chargers Stadium? I don't want the Chargers to move to LA, BTW.

Here you go Westsider: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jun/12/nothing-comes-easy-l-san-diego-stadium-proposals

Then there is this guy with the union tribune that does a stadium search "week in review" article that are fairly informative: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jun/10/chargers-stadium-search-week-in-review/

I think it is looking pretty realistic that some team besides the Chargers will move to LA if a stadium is ever built in downtown LA or "Grand Crossing"/Diamond Bar. The Jaguars were a mistake from the beginning. That franchise should have gone to San Antonio and if Hurricane Katrina hadn't happened I am almost positive the Saints would have been playing in Los Angeles by now.

HurricaneHugo

Jun 15, 2011, 6:09 AM

mello

Jun 15, 2011, 8:24 AM

I do believe that there will be a vote on it in Nov. 2012 that will decide the fate of the Chargers.

It might be a horrible proposal but there will be one.

If Dean Spanos wanted to move he would have done so years ago.

I don't think they can afford to risk a vote on this issue Hugo. You and I both know that it will not pass. Unless it is just simply a vote to increase tourist taxes on hotels and rental cars like Phoenix/Glendale AZ have done and possibly other cities.

Can anyone explain to me why the County of San Diego never gets involved in the stadium issue, why not increase some kind of countywide tax? I don't understand why it is only the City of SD that is in discussions or mentioned in the media and never the County. :shrug:

Derek

Jun 15, 2011, 9:16 AM

x2 on the vote. They can't put that on the ballot. It'll fail miserably.

HurricaneHugo

Jun 15, 2011, 9:32 PM

I'm not as pessimistic as you guys (we voted for the Padres and this city loves the Chargers so much more, plus a good playoff run this season can help) but yeah I know a ballot vote is risky.

But that's what they've been talking, having a ballot measure ready by the end of the year to be ready for Nov. '12. I wish the city had the balls just to do the deal by themselves, too much democracy is a bad thing.

Lipani

Jun 15, 2011, 10:47 PM

Since next year has a presidential primary, why not schedule it then? That way the vote would be right after football season ends. I hate being on the fence every off-season as we wait for whether or not the Spanos family decides to keep the team here. As you noted, Hugo, obviously they'd like to stay. Leaving the Q would not have been difficult over the last few years.

Derek

Jun 16, 2011, 6:33 AM

Awesome...

http://www.sandiego6.com/news/local/story/California-Legislature-Votes-to-Abolish/5UOMYd26ykSKdAA8gUOemA.cspx

Lipani

Jun 16, 2011, 6:57 AM

^ We're screwed. But if L.A. gets the Chargers back we should at least get the Clippers as a consolation prize. :haha:

Lipani

Jun 18, 2011, 1:52 AM

Horton rebuild promises amphitheater, restored park
By Roger Showley
Originally published 4:07 p.m., June 17, 2011, updated 5 p.m., June 17, 2011

Horton Plaza park would be restored and enlarged with an amphitheater, possible outdoor movie screen and plenty of room for markets, concerts and casual strolling under a plan unveiled Friday by the Centre City Development Corp.

Three options for the $8.5 million plan, due for city approval later this year, will be presented to the public from 6 to 8 p.m. Tuesday in the former department store building at Fourth Avenue and Broadway that is due to be demolished to make way for the park's expansion.

The choices all include an amphitheater, kiosks, 30- to 40-foot lighting features resembling Mexican luminarias, and a water feature.

Variations call for an arch-shaped space, recalling the arch on the Cabrillo Theater that once stood just south of the park; a formal space paralleling the city grid; and a "landform" arrangement inspired by San Diego's hilly topography

The historic park and fountain, designed by famed San Diego architect Irving J. Gill to coincide with opening of the U.S. Grant Hotel in 1910, were restored when Horton Plaza shopping center opened in 1985 and will be restored once again as part of the plan.

"This will be very exciting and transformative development for the city," said lead landscape architect J. Douglas Macy, whose Portland, Ore., firm designed the similarly sized Pioneer Square in that city that draws thousands for downtown events.

http://media.signonsandiego.com/img/photos/2011/06/17/1007-perspective-aerial_1_t593.jpg?f53c1bb70f629018cec0bd6246c82dae770b93ac
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jun/17/horton-rebuild-promises-amphitheater-restored-park/

HurricaneHugo

Jun 18, 2011, 5:46 AM

very meh.....

dl3000

Jun 18, 2011, 2:08 PM

Damn. I wanted something like Union Square in SF.

Derek

Jun 18, 2011, 5:56 PM

Damn. I wanted something like Union Square in SF.

Do you really see anything like that ever happening in San Diego? :P

brantw

Jun 18, 2011, 10:05 PM

Do you really see anything like that ever happening in San Diego? :P

Sigh....... :(

SDfan

Jun 19, 2011, 7:19 AM

Well, its better then what we have now...

Illithid Dude

Jun 19, 2011, 7:40 AM

Can someone post a picture of the department store that is being demolished for the park?

mongoXZ

Jun 19, 2011, 6:59 PM

It's that pinkish building. There used to be a Robinson's May and then most recently a Planet Hollywood there. The place would really look spacious with that thing gone.

Picture ain't mine
http://www.cruisereviews.com/images/ports/mexicoportreviews/SanDiegoPictures/HortonPlaza.jpg

spoonman

Jun 19, 2011, 7:48 PM

I wish they would give the plaza some Times Square-esque features such as cool ad spaces and marquees. Something to let people know they're at the heart of the city

Filambata

Jun 19, 2011, 11:51 PM

Do you really see anything like that ever happening in San Diego? :P

SF's Union Square in and of itself is not that great...it's the activity, buildings, and shops that surround it that make it special.

HurricaneHugo

Jun 20, 2011, 1:10 AM

I wish they would give the plaza some Times Square-esque features such as cool ad spaces and marquees. Something to let people know they're at the heart of the city

...........no

kpexpress

Jun 23, 2011, 10:59 PM

I'm amazed at the lack of enthusiasm for this park and the three designs that were unveiled Tuesday. Were any of you there at the meeting? I was and stayed after to talk to the designers about them all - sharing with them my ideas and suggestions. The two ideas: Cabrillo and Landform are great! the details of the park will really be a spectacular addition to downtown.

Union Square in SF is far less superior to all three of these designs.

mongoXZ

Jun 23, 2011, 11:53 PM

:previous: Well, we need some pictures. What's so great about these designs? Being better than Union Square is pretty big statement.

kpexpress

Jun 24, 2011, 7:40 AM

:previous: Well, we need some pictures. What's so great about these designs? Being better than Union Square is pretty big statement.

I agree with the comments prior regarding Union Square in SF. What's so special about it? It's just an open plaza with a stage and monument at the center. The density of the city and active retail districts to the East and South and cable cars is what makes it special. We have similar attractions nearby Horton - Gaslamp entertainment, theaters and retail district on the adjacent site. The digital art component will make this plaza nationally known. Incorporating the historic Horton Park, integrated kiosks and over 200 annual events with Westfield will really make this place a special place - all being put on in the shadows of the iconic Balboa Tower.

I'm telling you, this forum is not giving these proposals enough credit. I'll search for the pics. I should have taken some close shots of the presentation boards.

One crazy comment from a member of the public was his concern over terrorism. He gave the example of the Atlanta Olympics.

brantw

Jun 24, 2011, 4:37 PM

A new PricewaterhouseCoopers and Reis Inc. investor survey states San Diego has the lowest apartment vacancy rate of any major metropolitan area in the country and even has a strengthening office market.

The investor survey report subtitled "Optimism Prevails Despite Economic Unease" said the average apartment vacancy rate here was 3.9 percent during the first quarter of 2011 -- a full percentage point stronger than the 4.9 percent recorded during the like period a year earlier.

The 3.9 percent figure was stronger than all other major metropolitan areas surveyed. It was followed by Los Angeles at 4.5 percent and Baltimore at 4.7 percent, according to the survey that examined 18 of the largest metropolitan areas in the United States.

The survey said San Diego County's apartment investment market is in a strong recovery period for this year and next and will see a significant growth in demand in 2013 and 2014 -- likely fueling significant construction in those years.

San Diego's MarketPointe Realty Advisors has reached similar conclusions, but placed the average vacancy rate at 5.06 percent as of the end of March, with a 5 percent level considered to be ideal by the industry. Even at that, San Diego would still rank among the top five apartment markets in the country.

The PricewaterhouseCoopers report said the county absorbed 446 rentals in the first quarter of 2011, compared to 679 units in the fourth quarter of 2010 and 422 in the first quarter of 2010.

The report didn't stop at apartments. It said San Diego's office market, while decidedly less impressive, demonstrated some surprising strength during the first quarter of the year.

"Strengthening economic conditions, positive net absorption and a decline in sublease space are creating momentum in the San Diego office market," the report states.

The report adds that the technology services, hospitality, and education/health employment sectors are showing signs of growth in San Diego.

"In particular, the biotechnology and renewable energy sectors are attracting attention from venture capitalists, leaving these sectors poised for near-term expansion," the report continues.

It also helps that the unemployment rate has been on a slow but steady decline, currently at 9.6 percent, according to the state Employment Development Department.

The office vacancy rate tightened by a full 100 basis points to 16.8 percent year-over-year in March, according to Cushman & Wakefield. The amount of sublease space declined by 26.2 percent, while the total net absorption increased by 17.3 percent during the same one-year period.

Not everything is as office landlords would wish, however.

"The leasing market is remarkably slow for owners marketing 2,000- to 10,000-square-foot spaces," describes a survey participant.

That hasn't stopped landlords from seriously considering significant rent increases to augment their balance sheets.

"Further evidence of investors' optimistic outlook for this market is the growing use of rent spikes. The percentage of surveyed participants using rent spikes in their cash flows rose from 60 percent to 80 percent over the past three months," the report said.

San Diego's office market is presently in a recovery mode that will strengthen in 2013 and 2014, according to the report.

Retail is a mixed bag. Although many formerly empty large retail boxes continue to be refilled by such retailers as Kohl's, Best Buy, Dick's Sporting Goods and Discount Tire, the PricewaterhouseCoopers report said the retail market is still effectively in recession here and will continue to be so through next year. The report is projecting a retail recovery happening in San Diego County in 2013 and 2014.

Nationally, the report says stabilized real estate investment trust retail assets are faring the best in this economy, though malls have had their troubles. While there are many high-quality assets, few high-quality retail properties are being placed on the market -- at a time when "a flood of lower quality malls are being offered for sale ..."

In one case, Fashion Valley mall owner Simon Property Group (NYSE: SPG) has placed four malls for sale in Florida and Tennessee that have an average age of 27 years. What's more, it has been an average of 13 years since a major renovation occurred at the malls.

Power centers have been trading. In one of some 70 power centers that have traded thus far this year, Rancho Bernardo-based Excel Trust acquired the 325,431-square-foot Gilroy Crossing in Gilroy for about $210-per-square foot.

http://www.sddt.com/RealEstate/article.cfm?SourceCode=20110622czf

BigCityDave

Jun 26, 2011, 10:41 PM

Does anyone have info on this project?
The 450 feet tall high-rise Vertical Water Park is planned to be located in Downtown San Diego's Marine.

http://goldman-3d.blogspot.com/2009/06/virtual-tour-water-park-dubai-style.html

mongoXZ

Jun 27, 2011, 12:59 AM

:haha: That thing won't happen in a million years.

SDfan

Jun 27, 2011, 2:24 AM

What a joke.

Dale

Jun 27, 2011, 2:28 AM

Anyone remember the giant lollipop ?

HurricaneHugo

Jun 27, 2011, 4:49 AM

Wanna lick it?

http://www.emporis.com/images/5/2000/07/119838.jpg

mongoXZ

Jun 27, 2011, 4:55 AM

Wanna lick it?

http://www.emporis.com/images/5/2000/07/119838.jpg

LOL The giant stick shift as somebody called it. I remember that thing more than 10 yrs ago. Brings back memories!

At a time when our skyline was sorely lacking I actually wanted it to get built.

SDfan

Jun 27, 2011, 11:42 PM

I hate to say it, but I actually kind of liked that tower... Paz-zaz and all. haha.

Lipani

Jun 27, 2011, 11:53 PM

Who could forget this sturdy gem? :haha:

http://www.orchidsandonions.org/files/imagecache/Full/files/images/shapery.jpg
Orchidsandonions.org (http://www.orchidsandonions.org/2008/07/22/shapery-lotus-tower)

SDfan

Jun 28, 2011, 12:22 AM

Have you guys seen the updated version?

http://www.shaperyenterprises.com/Projects/RealEstate/ParkTower/parktower.asp

He just can't seem to get away from the color green...

HurricaneHugo

Jun 28, 2011, 1:53 AM

I wonder if it comes complete with a fountain on top...

Lipani

Jun 28, 2011, 2:15 AM

The latest design looks like it belongs in a porno spoof of the Green Lantern.

kpexpress

Jun 28, 2011, 8:24 PM

yikes that looks horrible

SDfan

Jun 29, 2011, 2:22 AM

Good news!

http://www.sdmts.com/streetcarstudy.asp

bushman61988

Jun 29, 2011, 4:44 AM

The latest design looks like it belongs in a porno spoof of the Green Lantern.

Speaking of which, have you guys seen the Green Latern yet?

They filmed it in Canada, but throughout the movie you see shots of our skyline, but they altered it to look way more dense and tall.

Instead of it being called San Diego, it's called "Coast City" and they even use some of the buildings like the County Administration Building as a model for the Airport Control Tower in the movie.

There's one particular shot towards the end (my favorite) that shows this long, tall white slender tower around the area where the Marriott or Manchester Grand Hyatt is.

If only I could find some way to download shots of these scenes...

HurricaneHugo

Jun 29, 2011, 6:21 AM

Good news!

http://www.sdmts.com/streetcarstudy.asp

Screw the study just build it!

HurricaneHugo

Jun 29, 2011, 6:29 AM

Also does anybody know where I can find detailed drawings/measurements of OAP?

Trying to build it in Minecraft lol.

Just need the width at the base and the width of the base of the crown. :D

HurricaneHugo

Jun 29, 2011, 8:33 PM

San Diego Boca FC (4th division soccer team) looking for a stadium...

SAN DIEGO, May 18 – San Diego Boca FC today officially announced that it has posted a petition on their website, www.sdboca.com, for local residents to support the construction of a professional soccer specific stadium within walking distance of bus and trolley stations serving the San Diego Region for the 2012/13 Soccer Season.

http://www.sdboca.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1185:san-diego-boca-fc-posts-petition-for-a-soccer-specific-stadium-in-san-diego-county&catid=116:press-releases&Itemid=491

http://sdboca.com/images/stories/san-diego-boca-soccer/press-releases/stadium/stadium.png

http://www.sdboca.com/images/stories/san-diego-boca-soccer/staff/stadium7.jpg

Good luck to them lol

BrandonJXN

Jun 29, 2011, 8:53 PM

Good news!

http://www.sdmts.com/streetcarstudy.asp

Needs to go to Hillcrest imo.

tommaso

Jun 29, 2011, 10:15 PM

San Diego Boca FC (4th division soccer team) looking for a stadium...

http://www.sdboca.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1185:san-diego-boca-fc-posts-petition-for-a-soccer-specific-stadium-in-san-diego-county&catid=116:press-releases&Itemid=491

http://sdboca.com/images/stories/san-diego-boca-soccer/press-releases/stadium/stadium.png

http://www.sdboca.com/images/stories/san-diego-boca-soccer/staff/stadium7.jpg

Good luck to them lol

Why would a 4th division soccer team get this kind of a stadium when S.D. won't even get an MLS team to play here? I don't get it.

HurricaneHugo

Jun 30, 2011, 12:25 AM

Well the idea is to start small and have it expand to 18,500.

eburress

Jun 30, 2011, 2:10 AM

San Diego Boca FC (4th division soccer team) looking for a stadium...

http://www.sdboca.com/images/stories/san-diego-boca-soccer/staff/stadium7.jpg

Good luck to them lol

Look at the scale of the people in that rendering compared to the stadium itself. A little out of whack, it seems. ;)

mello

Jun 30, 2011, 3:51 PM

Needs to go to Hillcrest imo.

Exactly, I don't exactly understand this proposal. What is the point of just going from DT to the Zoo?

On the topic of San Diego County having the lowest apartment vacancy rates in the country do you guys expect to see a boom in apartment construction? Maybe it is really time for this metro area to embrace density and start thinking about high rise villages similar to what they have in Vancouver and Toronto in select areas.

It seems like NIMBY's in UTC are going to really fight any future towers there, where else besides downtown do you think this kind of development would be accepted? I'm thinking El Cajon Blvd. and Mission Valley. After looking at the above LA thread it is obvious that LA decades ago said "Ok Wilshire Blvd. is an acceptable place to have a strip of towers". Can you think of a corridor where San Diego could pull this off. LA has so much more highrise residential outside of downtown then SD does.

I realize that in the 60's and 70's SD was building some and then the slow growthers and anti density crowd took over because they saw how much was going up in LA at that time and didn't want the same to be repeated here.

OneMetropolis

Jul 2, 2011, 4:10 AM

Speaking of which, have you guys seen the Green Latern yet?

They filmed it in Canada, but throughout the movie you see shots of our skyline, but they altered it to look way more dense and tall.

Instead of it being called San Diego, it's called "Coast City" and they even use some of the buildings like the County Administration Building as a model for the Airport Control Tower in the movie.

There's one particular shot towards the end (my favorite) that shows this long, tall white slender tower around the area where the Marriott or Manchester Grand Hyatt is.

If only I could find some way to download shots of these scenes...

yeah just like in transformers 2 you saw SD skyline for a sec. Hollywood likes to chop and dice the SD skyline in various movies now. I think it has something to do when Jerry sanders went up to L.A. to ask for more movie coverage in SD.

OneMetropolis

Jul 2, 2011, 4:16 AM

Exactly, I don't exactly understand this proposal. What is the point of just going from DT to the Zoo?

On the topic of San Diego County having the lowest apartment vacancy rates in the country do you guys expect to see a boom in apartment construction? Maybe it is really time for this metro area to embrace density and start thinking about high rise villages similar to what they have in Vancouver and Toronto in select areas.

It seems like NIMBY's in UTC are going to really fight any future towers there, where else besides downtown do you think this kind of development would be accepted? I'm thinking El Cajon Blvd. and Mission Valley. After looking at the above LA thread it is obvious that LA decades ago said "Ok Wilshire Blvd. is an acceptable place to have a strip of towers". Can you think of a corridor where San Diego could pull this off. LA has so much more highrise residential outside of downtown then SD does.

I realize that in the 60's and 70's SD was building some and then the slow growthers and anti density crowd took over because they saw how much was going up in LA at that time and didn't want the same to be repeated here.

Why was SD so opposed to being like LA? Not saying it should, but i read a lot of that on here.

SDfan

Jul 2, 2011, 6:34 AM

^^ Because a lot of San Diegan's only think about the worst aspects of Los Angeles. The idea of getting that much traffic, pollution, people, etc., is enough to drive people to NIMBYism.

SDfan

Jul 2, 2011, 6:34 AM

Needs to go to Hillcrest imo.

Agreed. But it is a start.

HurricaneHugo

Jul 3, 2011, 2:41 AM

yeah just like in transformers 2 you saw SD skyline for a sec. Hollywood likes to chop and dice the SD skyline in various movies now. I think it has something to do when Jerry sanders went up to L.A. to ask for more movie coverage in SD.

What? Where/when was this?

OneMetropolis

Jul 4, 2011, 3:02 AM

What? Where/when was this?

its too vague for me to recall, but i was listening to a evening news cast and they talked about how Jerry sanders asked Hollywood to give SD some limelight. I think this was like 2 years back or so, but yeah iv seen a noticeable increase of SD in movies now.

I found this from some article from 2009:

This isn't the first time Hale and Pudgil have crossed paths at work. Both joined Sanders for a trip to Hollywood in July to meet with top studio executives about filming movies and television shows in San Diego.
One of Hale's clients is the San Diego Film Commission, and some of its members accompanied Sanders on the trip. Pudgil was on the trip to help Sanders with media interviews.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpps.us.com%2Fcops-tap-lobbyist-with-ties-to-sanders&ei=YS4RTpLeEZDPgAesta3mDQ&usg=AFQjCNFpu5RkAyybuMn9aSIHiZ2FMvHXCQ

Most likely the San Diego Film commission website has more info.

OneMetropolis

Jul 4, 2011, 3:14 AM

^^^ found it

San Diego goes Tinseltown Tuesday, Jul 14, 2009
http://www.sdcitybeat.com/sandiego/article-6744-san-diego-goes-tinseltown.html

psychotron

Jul 4, 2011, 5:35 AM

Ripped from the Green Lantern trailer...

http://www.stageleft.us/misc/green_lantern_sd.png

tyleraf

Jul 4, 2011, 12:01 PM

psychotron: Love the shot, the Coronado metropolis it really brings out the real Skyline.

bmfarley

Jul 4, 2011, 2:08 PM

Where is that soccer stadium suppose to be? is it somewhere along I-5 south of downtown?

Derek

Jul 5, 2011, 6:43 AM

psychotron: Love the shot, the Coronado metropolis it really brings out the real Skyline.

WOW. I'm dumb. I kept reading these comments about how they "bulked" up the skyline to make it look more dense but couldn't figure out what everybody was looking at. :(

Now I know! :tup:

:jester:

spoonman

Jul 6, 2011, 2:25 AM

I must not be firing on all cylinders today...looks the same to me

That's also about the least impressive angle save for from Coronado's perspective

bushman61988

Jul 7, 2011, 9:17 PM

I must not be firing on all cylinders today...looks the same to me

That's also about the least impressive angle save for from Coronado's perspective

No, your kind of right, the only difference in the skyline in that particular shot is the Hilton Bayfront is WAY bulkier than it really is, and there's an odd, thin tower on the Bayfront that is not there. It's to the right of the Symphony Towers.

But this shot isn't one of the ones from the movie that shows the significantly altered skyline.

I wish I could find these shots I'm talking about, because they're really cool.

Lipani

Jul 8, 2011, 6:10 AM

I found these on the CCDC website. Before Horton Plaza:

http://www.ccdc.com/images/stories/slideshow/historic_park_before_HP_w.jpg

http://www.ccdc.com/images/stories/slideshow/hg_horton_plaza_area__1975_w.jpg
CCDC (http://www.ccdc.com/)

brantw

Jul 8, 2011, 3:16 PM

So why did they turn off the fountain in the park and let it go to crap?

SDfan

Jul 9, 2011, 3:58 PM

13th and Market proposal by Carrier Johnson:

http://www.ccdc.com/images/stories/Item_4_-_13th_and_Market.pdf

Gets a C from me...

Lipani

Jul 9, 2011, 4:23 PM

^ It fits in with the other new buildings in the area. Still, talk about keeping a boring area... boring.

kpexpress

Jul 10, 2011, 2:19 AM

13th and Market proposal by Carrier Johnson:

http://www.ccdc.com/images/stories/Item_4_-_13th_and_Market.pdf

Gets a C from me...

Gets an F from me. This is a prime site - across from the park and along a main corridor...G street. THere is nothing special about this project. This is Carrier Johnson's Island Village. Sad Sad Sad.

They could have embraced the Park with more glazing so residents can look out over the park and drivers along G street could have some intrigue - perhaps they'll slow down a bit. The exterior walls at street level don't jog one bit, they can allow for some insets for a more pedestrian friendly feel. And they shouldn't do studio apartments on ground level. The two bedrooms and non-existing three bedrooms should be on the first level to inspire more families to move downtown. The courtyard is so bland. Looks like home depot windows repeated 100 times all spaced equally. The corner units in the courtyard have their balconies cut so the units further face the corners in stead of focusing out into the center of the courtyard. The ground level height is weak, it should be at least two levels tall - perhaps live work units like in Fahrenheit. The materials look so cheap as well.

Lots of changes are needed.

eburress

Jul 10, 2011, 4:42 PM

^ It fits in with the other new buildings in the area. Still, talk about keeping a boring area... boring.

Yeah, it's about the same as many of the others in the area. It's not horrible...it's not great.

HurricaneHugo

Jul 12, 2011, 1:22 AM

I'm an engineer and even I can design better than that.

Architects are useless.

bushman61988

Jul 13, 2011, 10:22 PM

I'm an engineer and even I can design better than that.

Architects are useless.

I agree... I mean, you can't really blame the architects because they're hired by the developers and are told what to design...

Would it kill the developers to have a little imagination in their projects???

I would give this project a D. Bland is the perfect word...

I mean, such a prime site in between G and Market, and across the street from a future park.

Shame shame shame.

HurricaneHugo

Jul 13, 2011, 11:26 PM

The new Vons on University and Vons is going up.

http://www.missionhillsheritage.org/images/stories/Vons1.jpg
http://www.missionhillsheritage.org/images/stories/Vons2.jpg
http://www.missionhillsheritage.org/images/stories/Vons_Washington_Street_1.jpg

Glad it's covering up that surface parking lot it had.

I'm trying to see if I can find a rendering of the 99 cent store on Market St/26th street but can't find any. Guess I shouldn't hope for a modern design lol

SDfan

Jul 13, 2011, 11:57 PM

^^I don't think you can even count on that 99 cent store going up anytime soon, really...

As nice as it would be for my neighborhood.

HurricaneHugo

Jul 14, 2011, 9:47 PM

Well I passed by the site on tuesday and actually saw activity this time.

Just a bulldozer moving about but progress is progress!

BigCityDave

Jul 15, 2011, 9:31 PM

http://www.gersondevelopment.com/projects/current-49.html

1220-1250 J Street
San Diego, CA

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1220 J Street is a two story coffee processing warehouse with second floor office space totaling 6,900sf. 1250 J Street is a beautiful two story Victorian structure totaling 3,400sf with the Mission Café restaurant residing on the 1st floor and Pony International residing on the second floor.

Over the last few years, the downtown area has exploded with new development and the East Village/Ballpark area is no exception. Residential development has been the main focus and continues to thrive, but commercial development is on the rise. With the huge success of residential and the influx of new residents to the downtown area, the demand for new office and retail space is at an all time high. 1220-1250 J Street is in the perfect location to take advantage of this situation.