The Official Moncton, NB Project Thread

[mylesmalley]

Wooo. Post 500.

I just read in the Fredericton Forum that they're expecting an announcement about their convention centre soon. How is it that Fredericton can still be going after this, while Moncton needs to spend a pile of money to see if they still do.

[ErickMontreal]

Wooo. Post 500.

I just read in the Fredericton Forum that they're expecting an announcement about their convention centre soon. How is it that Fredericton can still be going after this, while Moncton needs to spend a pile of money to see if they still do.

Cool 500 !

I guess Moncton should go ahead and to finance by itshelf the fed share as Fredericton does. Its about 9-million.

[ElevatorGuy]

Convention centres are not very profitable and the city is going to make damn sure its worth it before they blow the cash. The Beaver lumber land is a large project for Moncton and they are going to do it right. They are waiting for the laws on casino's to change before anything is built on those lands. It will transform downtown when its all done.

[ErickMontreal]

Convention centres are not very profitable and the city is going to make damn sure its worth it before they blow the cash. The Beaver lumber land is a large project for Moncton and they are going to do it right. They are waiting for the laws on casino's to change before anything is built on those lands. It will transform downtown when its all done.


You`re right, of course, its a chance former courthouse rendering stayed on the drawing board. Furthermore, I looking foward to see Assumption multi-use projet rendering that will included courthouse look like. Like you said the downtown will change dramaticly with projects such as casino/hotel/convention center , courthouse and maybe office tower as well.

[ErickMontreal]

:: Various renderings of the Downtown Moncton vision evolution ::

2000
http://www.architecture2000.ca/graphics/2Drender/Downtown_rendPlans.jpg
2001
http://www.architecture2000.ca/graphics/3Drender/DwnTown_3drend.jpg

2001
http://www.architecture2000.ca/graphics/3Drender/DwnTown2_3drend.jpg

2006

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/stu_pendousmat/downtown1.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/stu_pendousmat/downtown2.jpg

[mmmatt]

They are all good visions...what I dont understand is why none of them include a new building over 6 stories? How come this idea is so lost here...Pretty much all the tall buildings (8+ stories) in NB were built in the 60's and 70's...(with a few exceptions...IE Blue Cross, Mercentile and a couple in Fredericton). What did we have then that we dont have now? I mean all 3 cities are growing...why dont we see new tall buildings going up?

[ErickMontreal]

They are all good visions...what I dont understand is why none of them include a new building over 6 stories? How come this idea is so lost here...Pretty much all the tall buildings (8+ stories) in NB were built in the 60's and 70's...(with a few exceptions...IE Blue Cross, Mercentile and a couple in Fredericton). What did we have then that we dont have now? I mean all 3 cities are growing...why dont we see new tall buildings going up?

Well, I think SJ is poised to get at least one on the next few years. I don`t understand why as Moncton has a growing population and nothing seem stopping this trend, in that case the city will be able to support couple of residential towers.

[mylesmalley]

They are all good visions...what I dont understand is why none of them include a new building over 6 stories? How come this idea is so lost here...Pretty much all the tall buildings (8+ stories) in NB were built in the 60's and 70's...(with a few exceptions...IE Blue Cross, Mercentile and a couple in Fredericton). What did we have then that we dont have now? I mean all 3 cities are growing...why dont we see new tall buildings going up?

I suspect it all comes down to economics. Why build a ten story building downtown when you can afford to build a massive three story building at the edge of town. Real estate in New Brunswick is so cheap compared to other large centers. There's just no incentive. That's not to say that it's right to build malls downtown...


HalifaxMTl666, where did you find the first and third vision plan? I've never seen those two before

[ErickMontreal]

I suspect it all comes down to economics. Why build a ten story building downtown when you can afford to build a massive three story building at the edge of town. Real estate in New Brunswick is so cheap compared to other large centers. There's just no incentive. That's not to say that it's right to build malls downtown...


HalifaxMTl666, where did you find the first and third vision plan? I've never seen those two before

You`re right, I just take a look around in my neighbour, there are four 4-stories buildings that are identical...

Check this link out.
http://www.architecture2000.ca/OurFirm.htm

[mylesmalley]

You`re right, I just take a look around in my neighbour, there are four 4-stories buildings that are identical...

Check this link out.
http://www.architecture2000.ca/OurFirm.htm

Thanks for the link.

4 four story buildings is better than four streets of suburban sprawl.

[mylesmalley]

They are all good visions...what I dont understand is why none of them include a new building over 6 stories? How come this idea is so lost here...Pretty much all the tall buildings (8+ stories) in NB were built in the 60's and 70's...(with a few exceptions...IE Blue Cross, Mercentile and a couple in Fredericton). What did we have then that we dont have now? I mean all 3 cities are growing...why dont we see new tall buildings going up?

I just noticed. If you look at the newest renderings (the two part one), it almost looks like they want to put larger buildings towards the areas of Vaughan Harvey and St George, which is a neat concept.

[ErickMontreal]

9 contractors vie for Metro courthouse job
Gov't to establish a shortlist before process moves to next level of asking for proposals

http://harvest.canadaeast.com/image.php?id=35066&size=300x0

http://harvest.canadaeast.com/image.php?id=35067&size=300x0

Published Friday October 12th, 2007
Appeared on page a3

The deadline for contractors to submit expressions of interest in building a new $47 million justice complex for Moncton passed yesterday afternoon, with nine different submissions coming in from interested parties across the country.

Local developers included Ashford Investments Ltd., Giffels Partnership Inc. and Bore Park Place Inc. (Heritage Development Group), all of Moncton. The other New Brunswick company to express interest was Gretzky Construction Ltd. of Shediac.

Pomerleau Inc. of Montreal, Sonco Group Inc. of Halifax, Citi Group Property Ltd. of Dartmouth, Plenary Justice of Toronto, and Huntingdon Real Estate Investments (Shelter Canadian Properties Ltd.) of Winnipeg rounded out the list.

Earlier this year, the Liberals announced they would seek a public/private partnership to build the justice centre.

The province is seeking a private developer to build, own, operate and lease the facility back to the province.

The Department of Supply and Services had initially received 35 requests for information on the project. These nine submissions will now be evaluated by the department and short-listed before a second-stage request for proposals is issued at the end of November to selected proponents for construction of the new courthouse at approved sites. Only those proponents who have been qualified under the expressions of interest will be invited to proceed to the second phase.

Supply and Services Minister Roly MacIntyre has said government is open to proposals to build the new courthouse at the former Beaver Lumber property in downtown Moncton, or at other acceptable alternative sites within the city's downtown core. Interested developers will be able to submit their proposals for the project based on the design that has been developed for the current site, or they have the option to propose moving the courthouse and, modifying the design, to suit another acceptable downtown location.

The list of companies to make submissions is as interesting for one name that is missing. It has long been assumed that Assomption Vie, the landlord of Moncton's current court facilities in the company's flagship Assumption Place complex, was interested in partnering on the construction of new justice centre.

However, the company did not make an expression. The two men who could have commented on the decision not to take part, Kenneth Losier, the vice president responsible for real estate development, and Denis Losier, Assomption's president and CEO, were both travelling last night and could not be reached.

The courthouse will house 15 courtrooms and court staff as well as Sheriff Services; Victim Services; Probation Services; Family Support Services including mediation; Crown prosecutors and a law library.

The previous provincial Conservative government had gone so far as to hold a sod turning ceremony at the corner of Assomption Boulevard and Westmorland Street back in the summer of 2005, but concerns raised about security and the site led to delays in the project, which was initially supposed to be opened by now. At the time of the 2005 announcement, that completion date had been moved to spring 2008. The new, more extensive facility is now expected to break ground in the spring of 2008 with completion planned for 2009-2010.
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I am really surprising as Assumption is not there, anyway, I just hope they will change the current design. Moreover, Pomerleau from Montreal has a strong portforlio with project like 1000 de La Gauchetière in downtown Mtl for increase. http://www.pomerleau.ca/

http://www.gnb.ca/cnb/televox/photo/2005june20-3.jpg
Government rendering

[mmmatt]

Wow, thats sweet that there is a lot of interested developers from outside Atlantic Canada.

As much as I would love to see a local firm at the helm perhaps it might be better to leave it to someone with a better portfollio (like Pomerleau etc).

But these are just the companies that are looking to build it, not design it, so its probably not that critical.

I REALLY hope they come up with a new design...not that I dont like the old one, because deep down I dont mind it that much...I just hope they make it a bit taller :D

I can dream haha

[mmmatt]

I just noticed. If you look at the newest renderings (the two part one), it almost looks like they want to put larger buildings towards the areas of Vaughan Harvey and St George, which is a neat concept.

Yeah, youre right Myles...never noticed that. Its a great idea...however I would rather see more of a developed downtown core than a new strip of buildings on Vaughn Harvey. But it would be cool nonetheless.

[mmmatt]

http://www.blueplain.com/windweb/images/vestasV90.jpg

October 12, 2007 - 11:15 am
By: Darrell Quann - News 91.9 Staff

KENT HILLS, NB - Energy Minister Jack Keir and representatives from TransAlta Corporation marked the construction of a 96-megawatt wind farm in Kent Hills yesterday with a sod-turning ceremony.

TransAlta signed a 25-year power purchase agreement with NB Power earlier this year.

The Kent Hills wind farm will have 32 wind turbines, which will provide 280,000 megawatt hours of power per year - roughly enough to meet the electricity needs of 17,300 homes.

Keir explains the electricity generated from this site will go into the New Brunswick power grid.

NB Power will buy this from TransAlta.

The project, at a capital cost of $170 million, marks a significant step forward in New Brunswick's renewable energy program.

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A nice little investment just outside Moncton :)

[ErickMontreal]

Wow, thats sweet that there is a lot of interested developers from outside Atlantic Canada.

As much as I would love to see a local firm at the helm perhaps it might be better to leave it to someone with a better portfollio (like Pomerleau etc).

But these are just the companies that are looking to build it, not design it, so its probably not that critical.

I REALLY hope they come up with a new design...not that I dont like the old one, because deep down I dont mind it that much...I just hope they make it a bit taller :D

I can dream haha

All the way with you Matt but I will be a bit more incisive in regard to the design.

The design is not that bad but I find the building a bit low-rise, a bit boxy, the footprint is too huge, the setback from the street makes it suburban as well as there is not pedway system. In my mind its a misuse of that prime land so the project has changed since 2005. The new project is 20-millions higher.

[mmmatt]

All the way with you Matt but I will be a bit more incisive in regard to the design.

The design is not that bad but I find the building a bit low-rise, a bit boxy, the footprint is too huge, the setback from the street makes it suburban as well as there is not pedway system. In my mind its a misuse of that prime land so the project has changed since 2005. The new project is 20-millions higher.

Yeah...I definitely think it needs to be taller (Id say 6 stories would be great!) and closer to the road, with nice landscaping (IE trees, fountain, brick paths, benches etc.) To fill in some more of that undeveloped space untill another project comes along.

The original plan was to have underground parking, and that better be part of the new design...the last thing we need is another massive parking lot downtown :hell:

[ErickMontreal]

Yeah...I definitely think it needs to be taller (Id say 6 stories would be great!) and closer to the road, with nice landscaping (IE trees, fountain, brick paths, benches etc.) To fill in some more of that undeveloped space untill another project comes along.

The original plan was to have underground parking, and that better be part of the new design...the last thing we need is another massive parking lot downtown :hell:

Oh que oui! 6-stories could be perfect and the new project now included room for the Probation Services; Family Support Services including mediation; Crown prosecutors, a law library and 10 % of extra office space.With that, If we are lucky we could see six stories.

[ErickMontreal]

By chance, I find out some old renderings of multi-use project that has been built in cities roughly the same size than Moncton. I am aware those projects are a bit eyesore but there are a great example of urban multi-use project that could be emulate to Moncton.

http://www.pomerleau.ca/FichiersUpload/Creations/thumb%5FCit%E9%20Champlain%2Ejpg
Delta Trois-Rivières, Qc

http://www.pomerleau.ca/FichiersUpload/Creations/thumb%5FPDC%5FSherbrooke%2Ejpg
Delta Sherbrooke, Qc

http://www.pomerleau.ca/FichiersUpload/Creations/thumb%5FTourelle%5FValleyfield%2Ejpg
Delta Valleyfield, Qc

:: Nice looking projects that could fit in Moncton market::

http://www.pomerleau.ca/FichiersUpload/Creations/thumb%5FUniversit%E9%5FDalhousie%2Ejpg
Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS

http://www.pomerleau.ca/FichiersUpload/Creations/thumb%5FCopy%20of%20SSQ%5F150%20dpi%202%2Ejpg
St-Foy, Qc

http://www.pomerleau.ca/FichiersUpload/Creations/thumb%5FBell%5FTechnoparc%2Ejpg
Montreal, Qc

http://www.pomerleau.ca/FichiersUpload/Creations/thumb%5FUniversit%E9%5FChicoutimi%2Ejpg
Université du Quebec, Chicoutimi, Qc

http://www.pomerleau.ca

[mylesmalley]

By chance, I find out some old renderings of multi-use project that has been built in cities roughly the same size than Moncton. I am aware those projects are a bit eyesore but there are a great example of urban multi-use project that could be emulate to Moncton.

http://www.pomerleau.ca/FichiersUpload/Creations/thumb%5FCit%E9%20Champlain%2Ejpg
Delta Trois-Rivières, Qc

http://www.pomerleau.ca/FichiersUpload/Creations/thumb%5FPDC%5FSherbrooke%2Ejpg
Delta Sherbrooke, Qc

http://www.pomerleau.ca/FichiersUpload/Creations/thumb%5FTourelle%5FValleyfield%2Ejpg
Delta Valleyfield, Qc

:: Nice looking projects that could fit in Moncton market::

http://www.pomerleau.ca/FichiersUpload/Creations/thumb%5FUniversit%E9%5FDalhousie%2Ejpg
Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS

http://www.pomerleau.ca/FichiersUpload/Creations/thumb%5FCopy%20of%20SSQ%5F150%20dpi%202%2Ejpg
St-Foy, Qc

http://www.pomerleau.ca/FichiersUpload/Creations/thumb%5FBell%5FTechnoparc%2Ejpg
Montreal, Qc

http://www.pomerleau.ca/FichiersUpload/Creations/thumb%5FUniversit%E9%5FChicoutimi%2Ejpg
Université du Quebec, Chicoutimi, Qc

http://www.pomerleau.ca

I really like the look of that building at Dal.

On the matter of parking for the courthouse. I'm not at all concerned. There's no land left downtown to put another parking lot.

[ErickMontreal]

I really like the look of that building at Dal.

On the matter of parking for the courthouse. I'm not at all concerned. There's no land left downtown to put another parking lot.

You`re right and I think they want to get parking structure (400) just across Roger call-center

[mylesmalley]

You`re right and I think they want to get parking structure (400) just across Roger call-center

That'd be fantastic. That's one major drawback to Moncton's downtown. There's TONNES of parking downtown, but you have to walk ten Km to get from there to Main Street. Even Assumption doesn't have a structure, and it's one of the biggest buildings in the city.


Also, the Moncton Hospital needs one, too. I had to go there this morning, and the place was packed.

[mmmatt]

That'd be fantastic. That's one major drawback to Moncton's downtown. There's TONNES of parking downtown, but you have to walk ten Km to get from there to Main Street. Even Assumption doesn't have a structure, and it's one of the biggest buildings in the city.


Also, the Moncton Hospital needs one, too. I had to go there this morning, and the place was packed.

A building that really needs a parking structure is Heritage Court...that place has a MASSIVE parking lot, and its full to the brim every day...

as seen here (brought to you by google)
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/stu_pendousmat/newer%20Moncton/heritageparking.jpg

[mylesmalley]

A building that really needs a parking structure is Heritage Court...that place has a MASSIVE parking lot, and its full to the brim every day...

as seen here (brought to you by google)
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/stu_pendousmat/newer%20Moncton/heritageparking.jpg

Its funny you should mention that. I was looking at that very building on Google Maps when I last posted.

[ErickMontreal]

A building that really needs a parking structure is Heritage Court...that place has a MASSIVE parking lot, and its full to the brim every day...

Agree with you on that !

[ErickMontreal]

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:Zvv9it-H0O2XGM:http://carryonamerica.com/photosforblog/starbucks.jpg

Starbuck will open two shops in Moncton

T&T

This old rumour-runner hears Metro is about to soon sport not one, but two of the popular Starbucks Coffee shops.

This tip originated at the online job-search site, www.careerbeacon.com. A job posting appeared this week from a company called Coffee Vision Atlantic Inc. The post announced the company was opening a Starbucks location in Moncton and would need managers and assistant managers.

http://www.careerbeacon.com/cat/en/270/3/MB0710030608
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Tourists take a shine to Metro
Even with hundreds more hotel rooms in mix, summer tourism figures top 2006

By Jesse Robichaud
Times & Transcript Staff
Published Saturday October 13th, 2007
Appeared on page A1

The number of "no vacancy" signs popping up across Metro Moncton increased this summer despite the continued addition of new accommodations, according to numbers released by the Department of Tourism.

After a slow start and an 11 per cent drop off in occupancy rates this May compared to 2006, Metro had a strong summer with increases of 3 per cent in June, 4 per cent in July, and 1 per cent in August.

Rhéal Robichaud, of the New Brunswick Tourism Industry Association says the fact that occupancy rates continue to grow in Moncton despite the addition of hundreds of extra hotel and motel rooms is a testament is proof that Moncton is a prime destination for visitors.

"In Moncton, if you look at the accommodations sector, although they have had an increase, you have to realize that Moncton has had more rooms being added and there is more being added as we speak," he said noting the construction of the Marriott Hotel on Main Street.

Downtown Moncton Inc. CEO Daniel Allain attributed Metro's success to the number of festivals and high-profile conferences held in the city this year.

He sees the events and the modest tourism gains as the seed of potentially major increases next summer.

"Having the big push of having events and festivals in our downtown, and the major conferences that we had, certainly helped the Greater Moncton area on that level," he said noting the Atlantic Nationals, Atlanticade, the Council of the Federation meetings, the Communities in Bloom convention, and the Country Jamboree leading up to Country Rocks the Hill.

Allain says it all helps build Metro as a tourism destination.

"It's a cache," he said.

"Once a tourist is here you have to do something, and by having these events that is what's going to differentiate us from other areas."

And Allain says the buzz created by the events helped draw more New Brunswickers.

Despite a slow start, tourism numbers were up across the province, with 25 per cent more business coming from New Brunswick travellers.

The number of American visitors, however, was down.

Room sales to visitors from the United States and overseas dropped by 5 per cent in May, 9 per cent in June and 16 per cent in July, but jumped by two per cent in August over 2006.

Danielle MacFarlane, a spokeswoman for the Department of Tourism, says the drop off is less dramatic when the number of vehicles entering the province from the United States specifically is considered, in which a decrease of only 1 per cent in May, 1 per cent in June, and 3 per cent in July was recorded.

Despite a drop in American tourists, Robichaud says the province's tourism industry can't afford to focus its marketing dollar elsewhere.

In fact, he suggests more marketing dollars are needed to rebuild a geographically natural market.

"What can you do? You have to remain in market. You have to be more present in the market," he said, encouraging the Liberal government to increase investment in the U.S. market.

"The increased 2007-2008 tourism budget we are anticipating will certainly allow us to have a greater presence." Robichaud attributes many factors to the drop in American visitors, including the weak American dollar and the war in Iraq.

"The misperception over the documentation requirement for crossing the border...the weather is another thing, now the exchange rate, the perception of a long wait at the border...," he said.

"Historically, Americans don't necessarily travel when their country is at war, for many reasons, and it's very valid in my opinion."

MacFarlane says the province will continue to spend marketing dollars on the American market, and says Moncton's direct flight to New York is a major asset to the province's campaign to attract more Americans, and New Yorkers in particular.

"New York is a developing market and it is a key growth market for the province," said MacFarlane. "We know we have what they want and we know we can profile the province in such a way to get them here," she said, stressing the province's natural assets and lifestyle.

Still, Robichaud says this year's steady increase in visitors does show the tourism sector in New Brunswick is experiencing sustainable growth.

"You certainly don't want to peak and drop off," he said, noting the volatility of the industry globally.

"In seeing a steady growth like that, it certainly adds a certain level of comfort in terms of the sustainability of the industry. It brings back a certain level of comfort for operators."

The Miramichi and Southeastern New Brunswick areas saw a drop of 4 per cent in occupancy in May over 2006, and steady gains of 4 per cent in June, 5 per cent in July, and 6 per cent in July.

http://www.gnb.ca/0397/documents/2007-tourism-indicators.pdf

[ErickMontreal]

Molson toasts to success as Moncton brewery opens
Fireworks kick off weekend of celebrations as brewer opens $35-million Moncton plant

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By Cole Hobson
Times & Transcript Staff
Published Saturday October 13th, 2007
Appeared on page A1

Moncton's brand new Molson brewery opened quite literally with a bang yesterday, as fireworks filled the rainy sky and the first locally-brewed products were tasted by a cast of assembled guests including Mayor Lorne Mitton, Premier Shawn Graham and executive members of the brewing companies.

"This is indeed a historic day for Molson, a historic day for Moncton and a historic day for New Brunswick," said Premier Shawn Graham in his address to the hundreds of community leaders and public who were invited to participate in the opening.

"Even before we raise our glasses today, this brewery already stands as a testament to the spirit of this community and to so many key players who have been involved in bringing this project to fruition."

From Molson's first announcement they were moving to Moncton in November 2004, to the sod-turning event in August 2005, Mayor Lorne Mitton fondly remembers the work that went into the brewery's arrival and was ecstatic to see it officially open.

"It's not every day that you open a brewery, it's a significant investment and a considerable commitment to our community and the Maritimes," he said.

While assembled guests got their first taste of the Moncton beer yesterday, the brewery has been working on test batches for two months, to ensure the quality of the product was consistent with their offerings throughout the country. Thus far the product is earning rave reviews from those who know it best.

"I can tell you that this brewery brews great Molson beer," said Eric Molson, chairman of the board for the Molson Coors Brewing Company. "I had some last night and it was terrific."

Another viewpoint of the brew came from Mitton, who said he was satisfied with his first taste of Moncton-brewed Molson.

"Somebody offered me a glass of water earlier up on the stage, and I said 'No, there's beer coming later'," Mitton joked as he enjoyed his Molson.

For those wondering, while he doesn't consider himself a drinker, the Mayor says his beer of choice is Coors Light.

The company's first new brewery in 52 years, Molson CEO and President Kevin Boyce says they are proud to call Moncton home.

"Hospitality and goodwill are real characteristics and values of the Maritime region. We are delighted to be part of this community and truly a Maritime-based brewer," Boyce said.

Passing on the spirit of goodwill, Molson also announced their contributions to three local non-profit organizations yesterday.

On Thursday, Molson presented $10,000 to the junior hockey team the Moncton Gagnon Beavers.

Yesterday, the company also announced a $25,000 donation to both the Dieppe Aquatic and Sports Centre, and to Moncton Headstart, an organization that helps at-risk families provide for their children with a variety of programs and initiatives.

"If we're going to live and do business in a place like Moncton, we have to become a part of that community. It's just very important," said Strat Kane, vice-president of market development with Molson Atlantic.

"If there are things that we can do in the community, whether it's sponsoring sporting events or sponsoring different charities, we want to be a part of it. It's really just what we're about as a company."

Kane says Molson is "open for business" and they are receptive to ways in which they can integrate themselves into the community.

The brewery is a $35-million operation which will serve the Maritime region and is Molson's sixth brewery in Canada. The operation will initially brew Molson Canadian and Coors Light brands, and has a brewing capacity of more than 6-million 12-packs annually (approximately 250,000 hectolitres of beer).

After the ceremonial ribbon cutting and keg tapping, assembled guests were invited to explore the state-of-the-art brewery.

Employees and informational posters were on hand to explain the nuances of the process that sees beer go from the brewery to store shelves.

The weekend festivities continue today with the backyard BBQ and brewery tour. Unfortunately, members of the public need a bracelet to attend the event, and it is currently sold out.

However, those looking to get in on the festivities will be able to attend the White Night party, which will take place on Main Street from 6 p.m. to 2 a.m. and will feature comedy, an outdoor movie, a fireworks display and much more.

[mylesmalley]

Don't let the SJ forum-ers hear about those Starbucks. They had a good time talking about how they were going to be the only one's with standalone stores.

I can't see them opening any more than two here. Tim's as such a stranglehold on the local coffee market.

[ErickMontreal]

Don't let the SJ forum-ers hear about those Starbucks. They had a good time talking about how they were going to be the only one's with standalone stores.

I can't see them opening any more than two here. Tim's as such a stranglehold on the local coffee market.
With that new, the festivities of SJ forum-ers about this matter are closed now

With , three Timothys, two Joe Moka stores, a Second cup, too much Tim`s as well as three Starbucks the local coffee market will be tight. I hope they will open a store within downtown and I guess new Mapleton power center for the second location as Champlain already has Second Cup , Tymothys and Tim Horton as well.

The former Burger King could be a option for a downtown location.There is the vacant space just in front of the new Marriott (599 Main Street)that could be suitable too

http://www.mid.nb.ca/media_uploads/jpg/2038.jpg

[Helladog]

Well at least we still have more poor people...not to mention we top the nation in obesity...:cheers:

[ErickMontreal]

Well at least we still have more poor people...not to mention we top the nation in obesity...:cheers:
Well, we have forgot to talk about that, maybe next time :haha:.

[mmmatt]

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:Zvv9it-H0O2XGM:http://carryonamerica.com/photosforblog/starbucks.jpg

Starbuck will open two shops in Moncton


Sweet! Im not much for coffee, but I do love thier frappachinos (sp)

Hopefully (like you said) they will fill up the old BK place. I think it would do well there.

[mmmatt]

Don't let the SJ forum-ers hear about those Starbucks. They had a good time talking about how they were going to be the only one's with standalone stores.

I can't see them opening any more than two here. Tim's as such a stranglehold on the local coffee market.

Moncton has the most Tims per capita of any city in Canada. :cheers:

[mylesmalley]

Moncton has the most Tims per capita of any city in Canada. :cheers:

I do recall hearing once that Moncton has the highest concentration of coffee shops in Canada. Canada has the highest concentration of coffee shops in the world, so...ipso facto, i guess we're the top of the heap.

[Haliguy]

Moncton has the most Tims per capita of any city in Canada. :cheers:

Is that something to be proud of?

[mmmatt]

Is that something to be proud of?

Not unless you like tims I guess...Which I dont really...but obiously lots of people in Moncton do :)

[mmmatt]

I do recall hearing once that Moncton has the highest concentration of coffee shops in Canada. Canada has the highest concentration of coffee shops in the world, so...ipso facto, i guess we're the top of the heap.

wow...we should get an artist to make "The Worlds Largest Coffee Cup" downtown, make a few signs on the highway that say "Coffee Shop Capital of the World", and have a giant coffee convention every year. We will get lots of tourist revenue! :P

[mylesmalley]

wow...we should get an artist to make "The Worlds Largest Coffee Cup" downtown, make a few signs on the highway that say "Coffee Shop Capital of the World", and have a giant coffee convention every year. We will get lots of tourist revenue! :P

We'd be right up there with the Nackawic Axe, the Oxford Blueberry, the Vegreville Egg, the Sudbury Nickel.....

[ErickMontreal]

Does someone know where the BMW/MINI dealer supposed to be located ?

[mylesmalley]

I thought it was one of the planned stores on Mapleton. Though car dealerships tend to build in clusters, so it very well could be on West Main.

[ErickMontreal]

I thought it was one of the planned stores on Mapleton. Though car dealerships tend to build in clusters, so it very well could be on West Main.

Thanks, its could be very possible although I have seen a Rideau construction project along Veteran highway by the airport . I wonder what is it so your location suppositons could be more logic.

[mylesmalley]

Thanks, its could be very possible although I have seen a Rideau construction project along Veteran highway by the airport . I wonder what is it so your location suppositons could be more logic.


Actually, I'm told that that is the new dealership... go figure.

[ErickMontreal]

Actually, I'm told that that is the new dealership... go figure.

Along the highway ? :shrug: If its that this is a weird location.

[mylesmalley]

Along the highway ? :shrug: If its that this is a weird location.

Thats what I'm told.

Does make sense though. Very high visibility where it is. Plus, now that the Dieppe Industrial Park is essentially full, they'll be looking to expand behind the airport, which will draw a lot more traffic out there. I expect we'll see a lot of development around the Veteran's in the next few years. There are a lot of new streets going in around Harrisville Blvd. and a new Big Stop is going in on Shediac Rd.

[ErickMontreal]

Thats what I'm told.

Does make sense though. Very high visibility where it is. Plus, now that the Dieppe Industrial Park is essentially full, they'll be looking to expand behind the airport, which will draw a lot more traffic out there. I expect we'll see a lot of development around the Veteran's in the next few years. There are a lot of new streets going in around Harrisville Blvd. and a new Big Stop is going in on Shediac Rd.

Obviously, you have a point my friend. Moreover, Moncton airport is by far the busiest in the province it draws alot of outsiders something required for this kind of dealer in a market like Moncton.

[ErickMontreal]

dp

[ErickMontreal]

I expect we'll see a lot of development around the Veteran's in the next few years. There are a lot of new streets going in around Harrisville Blvd. and a new Big Stop is going in on Shediac Rd.

Agree, I hope Dieppe will be able to attract a Aerospace cluster. I suppose the bilinguism and the close relationship between Acadians and Quebercers could help to attract Montreal compagnies in the region.

[mylesmalley]

Agree, I hope Dieppe will be able to attract a Aerospace cluster. I suppose the bilinguism and the close relationship between Acadians and Quebercers could help to attract Montreal compagnies in the region.


Let's hope. I know Dieppe is pushing hard. I'm really looking forward to this inland port idea that's been discussed somewhat lately. It could mean a lot of jobs for the region, not to mention development.

[ErickMontreal]

Let's hope. I know Dieppe is pushing hard. I'm really looking forward to this inland port idea that's been discussed somewhat lately. It could mean a lot of jobs for the region, not to mention development.

Well, Moncton is pushing hard for either inland and the Convention Conter as well but the drawback is both projects seem being ignored by the Federal. Anyway, the city population is growing, in that case, Moncton has to provide quality jobs to newcomers and like you said above the Inland port could be a huge job generator. I also think Moncton city council wants to give a new upswing to IT and call center cluster with help of Austin University or something.

http://www.moncton.org/search/english/Final%20Summary%20with%20cover.pdf

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Moncton has taken another small step in its evolution into a technological Hub City.

Telegraph-Journal, Published Wednesday September 26th, 2007, Appeared on page B1
Link to original article


A group of business, education, research and economic development leaders known as the Greater Moncton Technology Planning Group released a report Tuesday, entitled "Applying the Benchmark." [Download the report here] It's billed as the group's first "implementation report," building on a strategy released in December that focused on accelerating technology-based economic growth in the Moncton area.

That strategy, developed in partnership with the IC2 Institute of the University of Texas at Austin, highlighted Oulu, Finland as a benchmark city for Moncton to model its strategy after. The latest report results from an April mission to Oulu, where a handful of group members got a first-hand look at the remote Finnish city. Despite being just 150 kilometres from the Arctic Circle, with a population comparable to Moncton's, Oulu boasts a burgeoning tech sector.

Doug Robertson, a Moncton city councillor and chairman of the technology planning group, said Oulu has about 800 technology-based companies. That includes cellphone giant Nokia, which employs more than 4,500 people in the city. While Moncton has only about a quarter of that capacity, Robertson believes there's plenty of room for growth if all the area's players buy into a cohesive plan.

Two major steps detailed in the latest report would create a full-time agency to co-ordinate the growth of the tech sector, and establish a "post-secondary centre of excellence" to drive research. A subsequent report, likely to be released later this fall, will lay out further recommendations for a technology commercialization centre that would help turn ideas into marketable products.

Robertson said discussions are underway with the provincial government regarding the establishment of the full-time agency, tentatively dubbed "Innovation Moncton."

"It would be tasked with co-ordinating the strategy, coordinating the players within the innovation system, playing a networking role and developing local, national and international partnerships, relationships and exchanges," said Robertson, who estimates it would employ three people. "If we're truly going to be effective in implementing this strategy and achieving the objectives we've identified, we need local dedicated resources to carry it out."

Robertson would like to see the province get on board in the startup phase, but envisions an industry-supported organization in the future.

As for a post-secondary partnership, further co-operation with the province will be necessary. Robertson believes the group's goals tie in nicely with the recent report from the Commission on Post-Secondary Education in New Brunswick.

Robertson said that Oulu, which began to move its economy away from dependence on natural resources some 40 years ago, has a "very powerful engine" of integration. It re-evaluates its plan every five years, and universities will adjust programs to respond to changes in the strategy. Meanwhile, dozens of PhDs graduate and continue their research in the area, which hosts a national research centre in addition to a wide array of companies.

"There's a very powerful relationship between all the players, from the post-secondary institutes to the research community to the private sector," said Robertson. "If we can move towards that kind of alignment, it's going to make Moncton look a lot more attractive as a place to invest."

A return delegation from Oulu will arrive in Moncton tonight and spend two busy days looking for business and learning opportunities between the two cities.

One of the key sectors Moncton's strategy aims to build is in the biomedical sector, which already features such organizations as the Atlantic Cancer Research Institute.

Dr. Rodney Ouellette, the institute's CEO, was part of the delegation to Oulu, and he sees plenty of potential for Moncton to emulate Oulu's success.

"They've really got a vibrant system," said Ouellette. "I think the tech sector represents almost half of the workforce and they've got a very good system where universities, colleges and government research facilities are very well-aligned. They each know what their role is and work together so they basically become almost a production facility in terms of minds, moving those minds out into the community to start up businesses and keeping the economy very robust and growing."

Eric Pelletier, Enterprise Greater Moncton's manager of investment attraction, also participated in the Oulu mission. He believes it was a great first step toward a brighter economic future for Moncton and all of New Brunswick.

"What we saw there was really a great model to base our efforts on and something to strive to," said Pelletier. "They're many years ahead of us but if we can parlay whatever we have here into the next generation of IT companies and the next generation of knowledge-based companies, I think it will be very positive for our region and New Brunswick as a whole."

[Helladog]

Speakin' of coffee, does Moncton have any Java Moose locations? I prefer it to Timmies or Starklucks.

[ErickMontreal]

Speakin' of coffee, does Moncton have any Java Moose locations? I prefer it to Timmies or Starklucks.

No, Its bad, I like Java atmosphere. The Moncton version of Java could be Joe Moka, Coffee cognito or Tymothys of the world as well.

http://www.joemoka.com/splash.asp
http://www.cafecognito.ca/coffee.htm
http://www.timothys.ca/

[mylesmalley]

Speakin' of coffee, does Moncton have any Java Moose locations? I prefer it to Timmies or Starklucks.

Good name for a coffee joint.

HalifaxMtl, thanks for posting that link. I'd never even heard of that (which I think is a pretty telling statement). If the city really wants to attract high-tech companies, it needs to be noticed. Honestly, the only times I can remember Moncton being on the national news in the past few years are when Eddy the Bum died, the 'hostage situation' on West Main two years ago, and the Rolling Stones show.

[ErickMontreal]

Good name for a coffee joint.

HalifaxMtl, thanks for posting that link. I'd never even heard of that (which I think is a pretty telling statement). If the city really wants to attract high-tech companies, it needs to be noticed. Honestly, the only times I can remember Moncton being on the national news in the past few years are when Eddy the Bum died, the 'hostage situation' on West Main two years ago, and the Rolling Stones show.

Obviously, you`re right. They need to create something like the "call-center boom" in mid-1990s. At that time, I was not in NB but I heard a lot on Mckenna and Moncton mainly about their strong politics to attracting jobs or the way they stole jobs to others provinces :haha:

[mylesmalley]

Obviously, you`re right. They need to create something like the "call-center boom" in mid-1990s. At that time, I was not in NB but I heard a lot on Mckenna and Moncton mainly about their strong politics to attracting jobs or the way they stole jobs to others provinces :haha:

He had a phone number called 1-800-MCKENNA potential investors and the like.

Just out of curiosity, are you from Montreal or Halifax?

[ErickMontreal]

He had a phone number called 1-800-MCKENNA potential investors and the like.

Just out of curiosity, are you from Montreal or Halifax?

None of them, I grew up in a small town in Quebec close to NB border. However, I was born in Fredericton and I have spent much time out there in my childhood as well as my teenage

[ErickMontreal]

Opinion

Level of interest a positive sign

Published Monday October 15th, 2007
Appeared on page D6

With nine companies, five of them from outside the Moncton region, having submitted expressions of interest in building and operating a new $47 million Justice Centre in the city as a public-private partnership with the province, there can be little doubt that Premier Shawn Graham did the right thing in calling for proposals.

And there can be little doubt that the level of interest from large firms in Montreal, Halifax, Dartmouth, Toronto and Winnipeg is a concrete example of just how much Moncton has managed to put itself on the national map as a good place to invest. The city is being noticed, and in all the right ways.

The fact four local firms, three from Moncton and one from Shediac, have also submitted proposals is equally positive, a sign that our own entrepreneurs are capable of competing head-to-head with major players from across the country. And, while in any tendering process such as this the overall best proposal deserves the contract without regard to where the firm is headquartered, our local firms do intimately know the area, the province and its specific needs. And such competition, even if an outside firm is ultimately picked, helps sharpen their skills for the next opportunity.

It is to Premier Graham's credit that he recognized that this badly needed Justice Centre is a crucial project and once built will have to last and serve the community and southeast region for a long time. As such, it made sense to call for proposals and see how the province can get the best facility possible to meet the goal while still being cost conscious. It was also wise to leave the exact location (in general, downtown Moncton is the aim) flexible. This allows for proposals that may well be imaginative and workable that might otherwise have been ruled out due to location restrictions.

The fact nine firms have submitted means there is a wide-range of proposals to examine, a range of different visions on what will work best, and thus also a healthy array of options from which the province can choose. The process has worked and has maximized the possibilities and options. That can only be a healthy thing for the Justice Centre and the justice system itself.

[ErickMontreal]

Private ultrasound clinic coming to Moncton

October 15, 2007 - 9:34 am
By: Tara Clow - News 91.9 Staff

MONCTON, NB - An entertainment company that offers 3D and 4D ultrasounds to expectant moms, is planning to expand into Moncton.

UC Baby currently has locations right across the country, but there is only one in Atlantic Canada - in Halifax.

The ultrasound clinic hasn't chosen a firm location for the Hub City just yet, but according to Nursonographer Cathy Bethune, the plan is to start looking for a Moncton site in January, with the hopes of opening their doors in April or May.

Bethune says the clinic would most likely open 3 days a week to start, and then increase to 5 days.

About 15 per cent of the current clients at the Halifax Clinic, come from New Brunswick, but they also see moms from Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and Newfoundland and Labrador.

UC Baby provides 3D or 4D ultrasounds, and will tell parents the gender of the unborn baby, if requested..

[ErickMontreal]

Moncton development updates (outside Downtown)

BMW dealer is under construction along highway 2 by the airport area. (Like MylesMalley said above)
A new commercial site will be developed just in front of the new Mapleton Power center by Cordava realty.
A new Atlantic Mazda is also under construction just across BMW.
Hampton Inn first story is under way
The first plaza of the Mapleton Power center will get started soon.
Phamacie Jean Coutu in Dieppe soon to be completed
COOP Atlantic soon to be completed
Lawtons Drugs on mapleton soon to be completed
Peterbuilt New-Brunswick building is completed
Université de Moncton stadium is under construction
Motel 6 will get starded soon
Holiday Inn (Airport) building is completed
A brand new Electronic advertising system is in operation on the Mapleton road.

[mylesmalley]

Thats a good editorial.

Just what, exactly, is 4D?

[ErickMontreal]

Thats a good editorial.

Just what, exactly, is 4D?

I suppose 4D provides better views than 3D

[Helladog]

Thats a good editorial.

Just what, exactly, is 4D?

Would that be live or recorded video, with 4D being the time dimension?

[ErickMontreal]

:: Dieppe Aquatic and sports center ::

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2156/1581271574_16ce86c07e_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2267/1581217692_963deda4dc_o.jpg

City :: Dieppe
Cost :: 13,8-million dollars

The Project inlcluded two pools along with somes meeting spaces and changing rooms

[mylesmalley]

When is construction supposed to start on that whole development in Dieppe? Like the condos and such.

[mmmatt]

Would that be live or recorded video, with 4D being the time dimension?

2D = flat (basically 1 Dimention)
3D = adds the dimention of space, so like a cube physically takes up space
4D = adds the dimention of time to 3D

So yeah...probably a filmed 3D ultrasound (so you can cherish it for generations to come!) lol

[mmmatt]

The aquatic center looks really nice! High quality development for Dieppe :)

[ErickMontreal]

When is construction supposed to start on that whole development in Dieppe? Like the condos and such.

This is planned to start early 2008!

The aquatic center looks really nice! High quality development for Dieppe :)

Really, the project looks very modern, great project for Dieppe/Moncton.
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I looking forward to see what will be the stores for Mapleton power center as well the new project just across of mapleton

[ErickMontreal]

I found the rendering of the condominiums on Assumption street

:: 50 Assumption condos Ltd ::

http://www.architecture2000.ca/graphics/3Drender/50_Assomption_3drend.jpg
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Another surprising (for the city) realisation of Assumption Life

http://www.carrefourassomption.com/

[jenike]

With that new, the festivities of SJ forum-ers about this matter are closed now

With , three Timothys, two Joe Moka stores, a Second cup, too much Tim`s as well as three Starbucks the local coffee market will be tight. I hope they will open a store within downtown and I guess new Mapleton power center for the second location as Champlain already has Second Cup , Tymothys and Tim Horton as well.

The former Burger King could be a option for a downtown location.There is the vacant space just in front of the new Marriott (599 Main Street)that could be suitable too[/FONT]

http://www.mid.nb.ca/media_uploads/jpg/2038.jpg

I was talking to the owner of Second Cup in the Mall. She says that Starbucks will open a booth where that Ice Cream place was right in front of Garage Clothing. Where the main corridor splits in two (towards Colpitts or towards Transit Footwear). I suspect the second location will be in the Mapleton area.

[ErickMontreal]

I was talking to the owner of Second Cup in the Mall. She says that Starbucks will open a booth where that Ice Cream place was right in front of Garage Clothing. Where the main corridor splits in two (towards Colpitts or towards Transit Footwear). I suspect the second location will be in the Mapleton area.

First, welcome to the forum Jenike ! Well, it very well could that you`re right. So, a small glimmer of hope, I saw on the Champlain place website that "Sweet Factory" has took the space of the former Ice creams kiosk.

http://www.cffloorplans.ca/CHPCT00_SVG.HTML

[mylesmalley]

Welcome to the forum, Jenike!

I'd love to see a few more condominiums along the river. It really doesn't even matter if they're very tall. They seem to fit well, and fill in that gap between Assumption just perfectly.

[mmmatt]

Welcome Jenike! :)

[ErickMontreal]

More gaming good for N.B., advocate says
Canadian Gaming Association president says potential problems minor compared to benefits

By Cole Hobson
Times & Transcript Staff
Published Tuesday October 16th, 2007
Appeared on page A4

With New Brunswick's new provincial gaming policy still a work in progress, the Moncton Rotary Club heard of the benefits increased gaming could have for the New Brunswick economy.

Bill Rutsey, president and CEO of the Canadian Gaming Association, spoke to the gathered Rotarians and provided details on the financial windfalls gaming brings to an economy and the public misconceptions about problem gambling in the country.

Citing direct revenues of more than $15 billion and direct employment of more than 50,000 people throughout the country, Rutsey promoted the benefits of responsible gambling to an economy. In southeastern New Brunswick alone, Rutsey mentioned 1,000 high-quality jobs that have been generated by the gaming industry.

Rutsey reported that the percentage of problem gamblers in the country is between half of one per cent and 1.5 per cent of the population. When combined with those at moderate risk, he said it is 2.5 per cent nationally.

While he didn't downplay the importance of dealing with problem gambling, Rutsey said public perception of the scope of the problem is often much greater than the actual problem. He added that Canada is a world leader when it comes to responsible gambling, spending more than $90 million annually on research and treatment of problem gambling.

"What I was trying to point out is that public perception is quite a bit different from the reality of the situation. Yes, it's a very important issue for the people who have the problem, but there are very few people who actually have the problem," he told reporters after his speech, adding that public attitudes towards gambling addiction are from 30 to 60 times higher than the actual numbers.

Rutsey also mentioned the importance of non-gaming revenues that result as spinoffs to an economy, such as entertainment and food services.

"Today gaming generates only $700 million in non-gaming revenues, that's a huge under service and untapped opportunity," he said.

Not willing to comment on the possibility of how much untapped potential there may be in New Brunswick, Rutsey simply stated that a solid gaming policy is important for the growth of gaming in the province.

"It's important and people want to get it right and they want to take their time to get it right. Gaming can also sometimes be contentious in the public forum, so when you bring something forward you want to make sure you're comfortable with it and you're confident in it," he said.

An initiative that has been in progress since last winter and has had its release delayed on more than one occasion, the latest indication from the province's finance department is that the policy will be released sometime this fall.

Vicky Deschenes, spokeswoman for the Department of Finance, says the final details of the policy are being worked out, but a more specific release date is not yet known.

"It's a very sensitive topic," Deschenes said. "The government wants to make sure when they make the decision its going to be the right decision for all New Brunswickers."

Deschenes says the new policy will focus on three aspects "" the possibility and benefits of a casino or racino, the video lottery terminal (VLT) system in New Brunswick, and the future of not-for-profit organization charity gaming.
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Plans for possible Moncton gaming facility still unknown

October 15, 2007 - 5:37 pm
By: Darrell Quann - News 91.9 Staff

MONCTON, NB - It's still not clear whether a casino or racino will be coming to Moncton.

Bill Rutsey, the president of the Canadian Gaming Association, spoke in Moncton today.

Rutsey says it's not his job to meddle with government policy, so whether a casino or racino will come to the Moncton area or even a racino to Saint John has nothing to do with him.

He did say however that in his opinion, gaming in this province would work.

"I'm sure the population is more than sufficient enough to support a whole host of different gaming activities including gaming."

The New Brunswick government is currently reviewing the policy, which Rutsey says is a promising development.

[mmmatt]

There will be a casino in Moncton...its not a question of "IF" but rather "WHEN" it will happen. Even if the government comes back and says it wont work they will be pressured again in another 10 years, and it will be all different players then. etc. etc.

Basically the bottom line is money talks...the government can only hold out so long. They know they can make more money off this so they will do it eventually.

[ErickMontreal]

There will be a casino in Moncton...its not a question of "IF" but rather "WHEN" it will happen. Even if the government comes back and says it wont work they will be pressured again in another 10 years, and it will be all different players then. etc. etc.

Basically the bottom line is money talks...the government can only hold out so long. They know they can make more money off this so they will do it eventually.

Absolutely, at the end of the day, the NB is the only provinces to restrict the setting up of Casinos. This is a business case, New-Brunswick can not affording itself to lose those incomes. Also, the incomes coming from of Casino could be used by the city to fund a convention/hotel complex. The feasaibility study was clear, a Casino in Moncton could be profitable.

http://www.moncton.org/search/english/CITYHALL/publications/finalcasinoreport.pdf

http://www.moncton.org/search/english/CITYHALL/citydepartments/casinofinalreport.pdf

[Wishblade]

They have bus tours that go to Casino Nova Scotia that leave from Saint John and Moncton frequently. I actually wonder how many New Brunswickers go to the casino in Halifax. It's probably fairly sizeable.

[JasonL-Moncton]

Another thing that Moncton should get is an "English" speaking university...or make U of M a bilingual university (I don't classify ABU as such). The exodus of students leaving Moncton each year to attend other institution's would then be minimized and the influx of students from other areas increased. This would increase yearly revenue for the city due to more people being 'here' throughout the year. As well, this would cause an increase in the need for 'rentable' accomodations throughout the city...the economic spin would/could be outstanding.

[ErickMontreal]

Another thing that Moncton should get is an "English" speaking university...or make U of M a bilingual university (I don't classify ABU as such). The exodus of students leaving Moncton each year to attend other institution's would then be minimized and the influx of students from other areas increased. This would increase yearly revenue for the city due to more people being 'here' throughout the year. As well, this would cause an increase in the need for 'rentable' accomodations throughout the city...the economic spin would/could be outstanding.

Well, I think the setting up of a new University is quite unlikely mainly with the last report. On the other hand, the creation of a english campus within UDM could be a great alternative. Moreover, they could create a firm campus of Mount Allison within UDM or downtown core, like you said, it could to be a major spinoff for the city and for the population at large.

[JasonL-Moncton]

There are currently 4100 students at U of Moncton (Moncton Campus)...imagine if that doubled...8200 students.

That would be approaching the size of Dalhousie U in Halifax's undergrad numbers. That would be equal to UNB (Fredericton).

There is plenty of room across Morton between Crowley Farm Road and McLaughlin Dr. to expand the campus.

I would finish the degree I never completed at STU if I could do it part-time/at night at UofM....but...

JL

[ErickMontreal]

There are currently 4100 students at U of Moncton (Moncton Campus)...imagine if that doubled...8200 students.

That would be approaching the size of Dalhousie U in Halifax's undergrad numbers. That would be equal to UNB (Fredericton).

There is plenty of room across Morton between Crowley Farm Road and McLaughlin Dr. to expand the campus.

I would finish the degree I never completed at STU if I could do it part-time/at night at UofM....but...

JL

You are right but your hopes could be possible, my Girlfriend is doing a master at UDM and she has said they try to finding new ways to increase enrollement. There are two main ways they are looking for, either create a billingual/english campus as well as trying to attract more Quebec students, are on the drawing board. The first option could be awesome, the impacts could be impressive, with a such project, Moncton will really be well positioned to carry on the population and ecomomic growth

[mylesmalley]

You are right but your hopes could be possible, my Girlfriend is doing a master at UDM and she has said they try to finding new ways to increase enrollement. There are two main ways they are looking for, either create a billingual/english campus as well as trying to attract more Quebec students, are on the drawing board. The first option could be awesome, the impacts could be impressive, with a such project, Moncton will really be well positioned to carry on the population and ecomomic growth

An english university in Moncton would be nice. You really have to be realistic though. It takes decades and a fortune to do that to the scale you are talking about.

A casino is muuuuuch more likely to happen in Moncton. I could see that happening within the next five or ten years.

[mmmatt]

An english university in Moncton would be nice. You really have to be realistic though. It takes decades and a fortune to do that to the scale you are talking about.

A casino is muuuuuch more likely to happen in Moncton. I could see that happening within the next five or ten years.

yeah...but the effort would be worth it in the end.

however I agree, its probably a long way off, unlike a casino.

[ErickMontreal]

Moncton Hit Hard

AOL has decided to axe all positions for their US Win Tech queue. Effective 30 Nov 07, the Moncton center will no longer be in operation for the "US Business". In total, about 140 technicians will be cut, as well as management and support staff. Overall count for Moncton is approx 175 people as of 30 Nov. 07.

The beginning of the end of the call center era in New-brunswick ? I don`t know but a strongest dollar could be
a unfavorable factor

Saint John and specially Moncton could be hit hard

[michael_d40]

Moncton Hit Hard

AOL has decided to axe all positions for their US Win Tech queue. Effective 30 Nov 07, the Moncton center will no longer be in operation for the "US Business". In total, about 140 technicians will be cut, as well as management and support staff. Overall count for Moncton is approx 175 people as of 30 Nov. 07.

The beginning of the end of the call center era in New-brunswick ? I don`t know but a strongest dollar could be
a unfavorable factor

Saint John and specially Moncton could be hit hard


Erick... Stop dragging SJ into it. I actually work in a US based call centre in saint john and i know were fine. we are actually doing better now then we were several years ago... But as i noticed you on other forums like toi SJ Bash saying how we are the Bangladesh of canada and other thigns... Seems like you are quite the sh*t disturber even on a VANCOUVER forum....

[mylesmalley]

That's a terrible shame. I was just thinking about AOL a few days ago, and how you never hear anything about them anymore. Hopefully they'll be able to find work elsewhere.


On a similar but unrelated note. Its a shame so many companies are hurting because of the dollar. But really, one has to face the reality that a lot of these companies were taking advantage of something that was by no means a guarantee. A currency like ours that floats in value will rise and fall. A lot of these companies bet that it would stay low, which it hasn't. I don't really know what the solution to the problem is. However pushing hard to cut costs and maximize productivity is probably all they can do. The dollar may go down in the next few years or it may go way higher. If the latter is the case, companies like AOL who were betting on a 75 cent dollar just won't last.

[ErickMontreal]

Erick... Stop dragging SJ into it. I actually work in a US based call centre in saint john and i know were fine. we are actually doing better now then we were several years ago... But as i noticed you on other forums like toi SJ Bash saying how we are the Bangladesh of canada and other thigns... Seems like you are quite the sh*t disturber even on a VANCOUVER forum....


Blah blah blah. Bangladesh of canada,only on the media issue, yes it is the third world. I ever seen a such monopoly and anti-democracy things. The fact one corporate has half of the province on his payroll its not something really commun and healthy as well. But,I could hear from here,if you`re not happy back off fuck....! If you are unable to take some kind of critics, its not my business. On the other issue, just ask youself why call-centers have settled shop here in NB ?

[mylesmalley]

People.... let's be civil here. Everyone's entitled to their opinions.

Losing jobs is a bad thing: period. And when you get down to it, job losses in Moncton hurt Saint John too, and vice versa.

We're all in this together.

[mmmatt]

Erick... Stop dragging SJ into it. I actually work in a US based call centre in saint john and i know were fine. we are actually doing better now then we were several years ago

Unfortunately Michael he is right. The main reason a lot of these call centers set up shop in Canada is because of the high dollar, also because of our medicare system (less benefits to pay), but thats a smaller issue. The bottom line is if a company can pay a worker less money to do the same job in the States they will do it, in fact they would probably RATHER do it, the american public (mainly) hates out-sourcing, and the more americans a company employs the better they look. Moncton has a massive ammount of call-center jobs, SJ has lots too, neither city is safe, but in the end Moncton will be hit a lot worse. The high dollar is bad for every canadian export, including lumber, food, power etc. so all of Canada is feeling the pinch right now, Moncton and SJ have been hit very light so far...many citys will fare worse (and many have already...(IE Miramichi, Nackawic etc). However the dollar will probably go back down (BofC predicts $0.94 by sprin '08 I think), so hopefully those jobs will return.

And just so you know my GF worked for the US part of the AOL call center in Moncton just this past summer (she left to go to school) and back then they were hiring a lot, she would brag to me saying things like "our stats are always on top of the list" (compared to other AOL call centers in the states) and everything was just peachy, look at them now...things change fast.

[mylesmalley]

This was in today's Sleuth, from the Times and Transcript:

"Sleuth has been known to spend a night or two drowning his cynicism at the lovely new Moncton Press Club. More than a few good rumours have been started in that place!

But now he's picked up a hot tip that the impressive new building itself and surrounding riverfront land may become the latest property in play with downtown development. So, is the rumour true that the venerable Press Club might be on the move?"



Any thoughts as to what he might be getting at? The sleuth publishes a lot of stuff that never comes about. He's dead on from time to time though.

[mmmatt]

October 19, 2007 - 4:44 am
By: Broadcast News

MONCTON, NB - New Brunswick's minister of post-secondary education has promised that Shippagan and Edmundston will retain their university campuses as the province carries out its reforms of higher education.

Ed Doherty made the commitment a day after Saint John won a promise that it will retain a university.

Universite de Moncton president Yvon Fontaine says his school will not lose control over the two northern campuses, but he won't speculate on how their individual missions might evolve.

What that model will be is still up for debate, but Fontaine says he envisions greater co-operation with the local community colleges in the north.

A working group of university presidents and community college principals will be put in place to layout the path to reforms.

The group will use the independent Commission on Post-Secondary Education's report as the starting point and will hire an outside consultant for guidance.

[mmmatt]

October 19, 2007 - 10:21 am
By: Tara Clow


Moncton, NB--A new ultrasound clinic that is set to open in Moncton, is going to give expectant parents the chance to see what their unborn child will look like.

Baby Images Bebe Inc. is set to open in mid November.

This is the first clinic of its kind in New Brunswick, that will offer three and four dimensional ultrasound images. Owners Ashley Graham and Linda Richard hope to attract moms from right across the Maritimes.

Graham says these types of ultrasounds are offered to parents after 20 weeks of pregnancy, and in no way replace the two dimensional ones that are done at the hospital or in a doctors office.

The new clinic will be located on Mountain Road.

[mmmatt]

according to Readers Digest...

http://www.readersdigest.ca/mag/2007/11/courtesy/main.php

[mylesmalley]

according to Readers Digest...

http://www.readersdigest.ca/mag/2007/11/courtesy/main.php

I think it was Canada A.M. that did a survey a while back that said Moncton was the most honest city in Canada as well. Kudos to us, eh. :p

[GUB]

according to Readers Digest...

http://www.readersdigest.ca/mag/2007/11/courtesy/main.php

Isn't that wonderful!

[mmmatt]

October 22, 2007 - 5:08 am
By: Canadian Press


OTTAWA, ON - New Brunswick Premier Shawn Graham will host a reception
for upwards of 200 MPs, senators, public officials and business people within blocks of Parliament Hill.
The premier will woo them with New Brunswick smoked salmon and oysters and a pitch to become members of an informal sales force for the province.
Monday night's two-hour reception, to be held at the National Arts Centre, is by far the largest of its kind Graham's office has held since he was elected.
Most of the guests are New Brunswickers, but several are federal deputy ministers or executives with corporations, including the defence contractors Boeing Aerospace and Lockheed Martin.
Graham is expected to make brief remarks extolling the province's promising economic trends.
He is also expected to speak of the projected growth in the energy sector and of his government's ambitious goals to boost the economy and population through the self-sufficiency agenda.



Imagine Boeing or Lockheed setting up shop in Moncton :D :D...I can dream

[mmmatt]

Sleuth says its possible the new starbucks might be inside the Crowne Plaza downtown....hopefully they have access from the street.

[JasonL-Moncton]

Imagine Boeing or Lockheed setting up shop in Moncton :D :D...I can dream

I'd also like to see a commitment from the government on fixing the 'river' as well!

JL

[mmmatt]

I'd also like to see a commitment from the government on fixing the 'river' as well!

JL

indeed

[mylesmalley]

I hope that if a company like Lockheed does want to come here, the government won't scare them off like the conservatives did with Research in Motion a year or two ago.

[ErickMontreal]

:: Hotel development ::
_____________________________________________________________________

Number of projects : 6.
Number of new rooms : 645.

:: Holiday Inn Express Hotel & Suites - Moncton Intl.Airport ::
_____________________________________________________________________

http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelmedia/repository/hotelimages/YQMDD/WELCM_EXTR_01_E.jpg

Status : Completed
Opening : 2007
Number of rooms : 94

:: Future Inns Moncton ::
_____________________________________________________________________

http://images.travelnow.com/hotels/YQM_FUTU-exter-1.jpg

Status : Completed
Opening : 2006
Number of rooms :130
Anchor : Maverick’s Seafood, Steaks & Fine Wines

:: Super 8 Hotel - Dieppe ::
_____________________________________________________________________

http://www.hotels.fr/13/hotels/2000000/1500000/1494000/1493951/hcom_1493951_1_b.jpg

Status : Completed
Opening :2006
Number of rooms : 90
Anchor : Cora`s


:: Mariott - Residence Inn (Downtown) ::
_____________________________________________________________________

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1282/1394724064_762bb7a479.jpg

Status : Under construction
Opening : Spring 2008
Number of rooms :137
Anchor : The Keg

:: Hilton - Hampton Inn ::
_____________________________________________________________________

Status : Under construction
Opening : Summer 2008
Number of rooms :100

:: Motel 6 Moncton ::
_____________________________________________________________________

http://www.motel6.com/i/photos/extm62.jpg
Rendering example

Status : Approved/Planning
Opening : 2008
Number of rooms :95

[mmmatt]

soooo many new hotel rooms in so little time...its a wonder how we still have such a high occupancy rate (they were talking about that in a recent T&T article).

also: POST #600!!