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mmmatt
Dec 27, 2008, 6:18 PM
Colour For the Page

Atlantic Nationals 2008
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3284/3141385388_19495a61bf.jpg
photo credit: JarvisEye on Flickr

This was a record year for the largest car show in Canada with over 1,800 cars registered from all 10 provinces and 12 US states, its estimated over 140,000 people were in attendance. And they hope 2009 will be even larger, it will be the 10th anniversary of the show.

C_Boy
Dec 27, 2008, 8:20 PM
I just realized that there is a possibility of 4 tower cranes in Moncton this coming summer, and 3 of those downtown. :)

- Casino (Crane for 6 floor hotel) - Very Likely
- Justice Center - Very Likely
- Robichaud Apartments/Condos near Vaughn harvey - 50/50
- Robichaud Condo Tower on Main - 50/50

Looks like we may have a very exciting construction season on our hands :tup:

It was a little dark when I went by, but I think they already started putting the base on the tower crane at the casino site. There was a large orange cage like structure all criss-cross maybe about 10-15 feet. (Assuming it is the base)

mmmatt
Dec 27, 2008, 8:46 PM
It was a little dark when I went by, but I think they already started putting the base on the tower crane at the casino site. There was a large orange cage like structure all criss-cross maybe about 10-15 feet. (Assuming it is the base)

Awesome :D

I havent been up that way in a while, Ill have to get up there soon and take some pics for us.

Thanks for the update

mylesmalley
Dec 27, 2008, 11:29 PM
In keeping with what matt did a few pages back, I've taken it upon myself to start putting together the full map of projects in the greater moncton area. I'm only including a link because the image is 3000x2100 pixels, and I don't want my webserver to flip out when people accidentally load it 2000 times.

Anyway, I realized I didn't include the layer with identifying numbers yet, so you'll have to try to figure out what each of them is for the time being. Green dots are things built in the last two/three years. Yellow dots are those things under construction/soon to begin construction. I haven't included any housing projects yet.

The satellite images are all care of Microsoft Live Maps, who have the most up to date images of the region.

View the map (http://www.marketingsociety.ca/gmaprojectmap.jpg)

Also, I know I'm missing a lot, so please point anything left out to me.

Even without the labels, you can easily see where the bulk of development is happening at the moment. Central Dieppe, vaughan Harvey extension/bridge, Mapleton expansion, and the casino/hotel projects in the north end.

MonctonRad
Dec 28, 2008, 1:57 AM
:previous:

Nice work Myles, It'll be interesting when you include the overlay with the names of the individual projects.

The map will look even more busy when you include the housing projects.

After you do your overlay, I'll peruse the map more closely to look for any ommissions.

mmmatt
Dec 28, 2008, 7:20 AM
Wow! great job Myles :D

Easy to see we have a ton of stuff going on, and I know you missed a few things.

In Riverview there is the Fundy Gateway Project and the addition to Town Hall (they have a little crane up right now).

And all three Industrial Parks have had active construction for the past three years and into the future, so you are missing a bunch there for sure.

Plus like MonctonRad said there is a TON of housing development all over the place...extension of Evergreen to Ryan Rd and a new school there as well (not sure if you have that).

Anyways, great job...we will all have to put on our thinking caps to figure out whats missing :P

mylesmalley
Dec 28, 2008, 11:40 PM
WELL.

I've given it some thought, and I've completely reworked what I had planned. While a static map is nice, it really isnt' of much value, and can't easily be updated.

So, using my mad web skillz, I've designed a system that will allow is to keep track of all the projects on one giant 10mb map. It's easy to add new points, change their status, delete them etc. It allows for the map in back to be replaced as new ones are released. As well, I've set it up so that when your cursor hovers over a project, you see a description of it right there.

It's all done with xhtml and css, in case any of you are interested. The only drawback is it's a pretty big file that can/will take a while to load. I can probably trim it down by lowering quality, but regardless, I think this is a pretty good start. I may run into problems if bandwidth becomes an issue, but that's not an issue at the moment. Also, if anyone has any technical difficulties other than that, pass them on.

I've added some points in the north end as a start. It takes a while to get everything in place, so I plan on picking away at it when I have time/no papers due. Also, I'm definitely going to need the forum's help to find everything. It's amazing how many projects are actually on the go here at the moment!

Anyway, hope y'all enjoy!

www.marketingsociety.ca/monctonmap/

Jerry556
Dec 29, 2008, 4:50 AM
Hi everybody, am new, just wanted to add something, they should really build another theatre complex in moncton(good place would be downtown near the new sobeys and shoppers, imax included), kose i was a empire at trinity the other night and half of the movies were sold out, line were stretching outside!!, plus i was just wondering if anybody knew if the lot of land on the corner of main, where the rodd and near the used car dealer. if anything is planned for that lot, been there for a while?? another thing, they should really build a 5 or 6 story parking garage with all the buildings going up next summer in downtown, more people working downtown, less parking kose theres more buildings.

mmmatt
Dec 29, 2008, 7:40 AM
Hi everybody, am new, just wanted to add something, they should really build another theatre complex in moncton(good place would be downtown near the new sobeys and shoppers, imax included), kose i was a empire at trinity the other night and half of the movies were sold out, line were stretching outside!!, plus i was just wondering if anybody knew if the lot of land on the corner of main, where the rodd and near the used car dealer. if anything is planned for that lot, been there for a while?? another thing, they should really build a 5 or 6 story parking garage with all the buildings going up next summer in downtown, more people working downtown, less parking kose theres more buildings.

First off, welcome to the forum Jerry :)

1. Re: New theater

Personally I agree, both theaters (especially Trinity with its all stadium seating) are quite packed most of the time. Id say its high time another opened. What with Crombie (real estate branch of the company that owns Sobeys, Empire Theaters and Highfield Square) trying to re-work Highfield at the moment I think a new theater/Imax could be a great anchor for a new retail/commercial/residential complex on the lot.

2. Re: Empty lot on main

Not sure Ive heard anything about it but with the new condo going up nearby and generally a lot of development in the area in the near future Id expect this land will be a hot commodity soon (even more than it is already).

3. Re: Parking Garage

With more projects eating up parking lots and the projects creating more need for parking at the same time its inevitable more parking structures will be needed very soon, and the city has been planning some in the near future if I'm not mistaken.

mmmatt
Dec 29, 2008, 7:44 AM
Myles:

Great Idea! However it doesn't work for me...all I get is a page of hyperlinks that lead nowhere...That being said I use Firefox 3 and IE 8 (beta). Did you build and test it in IE 7? That may be my problem.

riverviewer
Dec 29, 2008, 11:26 AM
Myles:

Great Idea! However it doesn't work for me...all I get is a page of hyperlinks that lead nowhere...That being said I use Firefox 3 and IE 8 (beta). Did you build and test it in IE 7? That may be my problem.

Excited to see your idea, but I'm getting the sam result as Mat. Just links. I'm using IE7 on Vista.

It's a great idea you have with the map overlays. Reminds me of what they are using on the MLS listings site.

a link to MLS showing overlays (http://www.realtor.ca/map.aspx?&vs=VEResidential&beds=0-0&baths=0-0&owntg=-1&minp=150000&maxp=0&area=assumption%2b%252c%2bmoncton&trt=2#acr:false;ac:false;baths:0-0;beds:0-0;fp:false;gar:false;pmin:300000;pmax:0;rmin:0;rmax:0;openh:false;pool:false;stories:0-0;buildingstyle:;buildingtypeid:;viewtypeid:;waterfront:false;forsale:true;forrent:false;orderBy:A;sortBy:1;mapZ:11;page:1;mapC:46.08836327137481,%20-64.77826461195946;curView:;)

Wrightguy0
Dec 29, 2008, 1:29 PM
I can't believe how dense Deippe is getting, brand new city hall, new CBD, It's amazing. The new Mariot looks great too.

mylesmalley
Dec 29, 2008, 5:04 PM
Okay, sorry about that. I'm honestly not sure why it doesn't work in Firefox or IE.

I've tested it in Firefox 3, IE7, Safari 3, and Opera 10. At the moment, it only seems to want to work in Safari at the moment, however i'll keep on it. There's probably some really stupid reason for it not working.

Also, make sure you don't have CSS disabled.

Moncton Project Map (http://www.marketingsociety.ca/monctonmap/)

mmmatt
Dec 29, 2008, 7:36 PM
^ Cant wait to see the results Myles!...PS congrats on 1,000 posts :)

Bella Casa
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/stu_pendousmat/pop%20graphs/DSCN1926.jpg

Taken yesterday...sorry for the bluriness.

MonctonRad
Dec 29, 2008, 9:02 PM
I can't believe how dense Deippe is getting, brand new city hall, new CBD, It's amazing. The new Mariot looks great too.

Thanks for your observations Wrightguy, It's always gratifying to see positive comments in our thread from Saint Johner's.

Both Moncton and Saint John are doing very well these days. We should rejoice in each others success.

:notacrook:

benvui
Dec 29, 2008, 9:24 PM
Seems to work in Google Chrome as well, very nice map btw

Okay, sorry about that. I'm honestly not sure why it doesn't work in Firefox or IE.

I've tested it in Firefox 3, IE7, Safari 3, and Opera 10. At the moment, it only seems to want to work in Safari at the moment, however i'll keep on it. There's probably some really stupid reason for it not working.

Also, make sure you don't have CSS disabled.

Moncton Project Map (http://www.marketingsociety.ca/monctonmap/)

mylesmalley
Dec 29, 2008, 9:58 PM
Seems to work in Google Chrome as well, very nice map btw

Thanks for the update, Benvui

mylesmalley
Dec 29, 2008, 10:19 PM
I seem to have it working in Firefox 3 on the mac now, though it should now work fine with FF windows and IE7/8. Hopefully!

riverviewer
Dec 29, 2008, 10:21 PM
Seems to work in Google Chrome as well, very nice map btw

So I downloaded and installed Chrome.... Beautiful map!

I was driving down Dieppe Blvd by Fox Creek Golf Course on the weekend and saw two new apartment buildings. That area is really building up too. Hard to believe is was all woods just a few years ago...

MonctonRad
Dec 30, 2008, 3:55 AM
Hi everybody, am new, just wanted to add something, they should really build another theatre complex in moncton(good place would be downtown near the new sobeys and shoppers, imax included), kose i was a empire at trinity the other night and half of the movies were sold out, line were stretching outside.

Greetings Jerry566.

I agree that another theatre complex, particularly downtown, would be desireable.

I think the Empire Eight at Trinity is just fine. The Crystal Palace Eight however needs to be completely redone. Most of the auditoriums there are just way too small. It would be better to turn Crystal Palace into a 4-5 cinema complex. If they did this, then additional screens could be sited downtown in a brand new cinema complex.

My own personal choice would be a new "Empire Six" complex located on the site of the current Highfield Square. It would even be possible for a new complex such as this to have an integrated IMAX theatre.

Hmmmm.......Empire theatres is owned by Sobey's, Highfield Square is owned by Sobey's. Perhaps there could be a convergence of interest here. :D

Jerry556
Dec 30, 2008, 5:00 AM
its funny to see so many buildings go up downtown, but at the same time there's so many for lease?? I know some of them just dont serve the purpose they want them for but still. Youd think that some of these would get leased a lot quicker then they do right now.

does anyone know who bought the empty lot on st george that was for sale 3 or 4 months ago(where the bus garage is, near sharlys pawn shop)??? anything planed for it??

mmmatt
Dec 30, 2008, 8:08 AM
Myles you map works in Firefox 3 for me now :)

Looks great! Keep up the good work. Dieppe is noticeably empty ;)

mmmatt
Dec 30, 2008, 8:12 AM
its funny to see so many buildings go up downtown, but at the same time there's so many for lease?? I know some of them just dont serve the purpose they want them for but still. Youd think that some of these would get leased a lot quicker then they do right now.


Leasing downtown is an issue, mainly because companies can get cheaper office space elsewhere in town. Once development is rolling and investment is made downtown (Arena, Justice Center, Condos etc etc) things on the leasing scene will pick up. Not that they are very bad or anything, but it could be better.

gehrhardt
Dec 30, 2008, 4:05 PM
May I suggest the Molson Brewery be added? Also, the Pump House is doing a large expansion at their brewery (the Barnyard BBQ).

mmmatt
Dec 30, 2008, 6:22 PM
From the T&T

Apartment building coming soon

http://harvest.canadaeast.com/image.php?id=228085&size=500x0

Construction of a new apartment building on the bottom end of Reade Street is flying right along as workers yesterday were finishing up the rafters and sheathing on the roof. As workers went back to jobs around the area, those working outside were happy for the milder temperatures.

Out with the old

http://harvest.canadaeast.com/image.php?id=228077&size=0x400

An excavator yesterday rips down an old rooming house on Gordon Street in Moncton. Several vacant homes in a downtown block are being torn down to make room for new construction, possibly apartment buildings. The excavator operator was moving with precision yesterday to avoid power poles, power lines and other occupied buildings nearby.

mylesmalley
Dec 31, 2008, 2:07 AM
Added Riverview, most of the north end, and a bunch in dieppe.

anybody know the names of any subdivisions going up?

MonctonRad
Dec 31, 2008, 4:11 AM
Added Riverview, most of the north end, and a bunch in dieppe.

anybody know the names of any subdivisions going up?

I have one problem with your map Myles, there are so many tags for the development projects that you can't see the map anymore!! :haha: :haha:

mylesmalley
Dec 31, 2008, 4:53 AM
Good problem to have, MonctonRad!

There are 82 points on the map at the moment. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say there's probably another 30 or so that I haven't included yet.

I'm thinking of adding an extra category for rumours. Got any other suggestions?

mmmatt
Dec 31, 2008, 6:35 PM
Good problem to have, MonctonRad!

There are 82 points on the map at the moment. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say there's probably another 30 or so that I haven't included yet.

I'm thinking of adding an extra category for rumours. Got any other suggestions?

Looking very good :)

You could add:

- Uptown Dieppe
- Molson Brewery
- Gentek Windows and The Truck Store in the MIP (both from 2007)
- Rice Contracting recently doubled the size of their office on sailsbury road (interior work is still being finished)
- There is a seinors complex U/C on sailsbury rd as well, beside the "hump yard" road
- Lots of stuff in the CIP, Keltic new warehouse and stuff.
- Phase II of Fox Creek has been approved I think
- St. George St redevelopment
- Rocky Stone Field new building (change rooms etc etc) is U/C

mmmatt
Dec 31, 2008, 6:44 PM
Dieppe predicts continued growth in 2009

City council looks to complete several major projects next year

By Yvon Gauvin
Times & Transcript staff
Published Wednesday December 31st, 2008

Dieppe Mayor Jean LeBlanc is proud of Dieppe's record growth in 2008 and the fact that it is expected to continue that growth in 2009 despite a harsh economic forecast elsewhere.

One projection is for the city to continue leading the province in municipal growth rate for 2009.

There is a sobre side, though, with the city limited somewhat as to the prospects of new developments by the debt load resulting from major spending during the last city administration.

The city's debt went from $46 to $80 million in two years with major projects bringing the municipal debt rate to 24 per cent.

On the bright side are the record number of building permits likely to exceed $80 million in 2008.

The mayor is also proud of the fact that the city still maintains an approximate 60/40 split for new construction, that is to say 60 per cent residential and 40 per cent commercial and industrial.

One of the first tasks of the newly elected city council in May was to shed light on the true costs of Dieppe's Aquatic and Sports Centre project currently under construction at $16.2 million.

Another and related priority is to legislate policies to ensure there would be "transparency" on city council matters, says LeBlanc.

The staging of the '55 Canada Games' was a huge success for the city as was the Francoforce concert.

The Francoforce tour brought French speaking artists from many corners of the country, celebrating francophones in music and song.

Plans for 2009 include finalizing work on Paul Street, a major thoroughfare, and the aquatic centre as well as infrastructure improvements.

The makeover of Paul Street is to cost $10 million over three years.

The city was able to bring in a balanced budget of $32,820,382 without raising the local tax rate of $1.5645 per $100 of residential property assessment.

Many new projects were started or completed in the past year with the new Auberge du Soleil, a 157-unit special care residence, among the latest.

Other events of note over the year included the major expansion of the Dieppe headquarters of Midland Transport, which went from 7,000 square feet in 1977 to 162,000 square feet.

There was also the Aliant Playground, intended for use by people of all ages that opened this fall in Dover Park, and 126 new affordable housing units in Dieppe and Moncton. As well, a second municipal water main was begun and planning launched for a new public school.

A new municipal plan was introduced this year to update the last plan adopted in 1995.

mmmatt
Dec 31, 2008, 8:30 PM
N.B. kicks in $800,000 toward industrial park

Mayor hopes expansion at Caledonia industrial park leads to more 'green' businesses moving into the city

BY REBECCA PENTY
Canadaeast News Service
Published Wednesday December 31st, 2008

http://harvest.canadaeast.com/image.php?id=228680&size=500x0
Business New Brunswick is contributing an $800,000 forgivable loan toward the cost of opening up more land at the Caledonia industrial park. The total cost of the project is $5 million. The funding provided by Business New Brunswick will help with the development of new lots, which includes new paved streets and water and sewer lines.

The expansion of Moncton's northern industrial complex just got a boost from provincial coffers, a move the city's mayor hopes will help attract clean industry.

Business New Brunswick announced yesterday it would give $800,000 in forgivable loans to Moncton Industrial Development Ltd. -- the city-owned non-profit manager of Caledonia Industrial Park -- to help develop 63 hectares of industrial land.

The total cost of the expansion of serviced lots, which will include cutting down trees, paving roads and putting in water and sewer and electricity lines, is projected at $5 million.

While Mayor George LeBlanc said the city wants to attract a diverse portfolio of business, it will continue on its path of working to appeal to greener companies.

"Generally speaking, we tend to stay away from the heavy industrial type of industry that is not environmentally friendly and might not be friendly to the quality of life we enjoy here," LeBlanc said, adding that despite that goal, the city would entertain applications from all companies.

"The spectrum is pretty wide open and we'd have a hard look at each business," LeBlanc said, pointing to Hub City's existing business makeup, which includes transportation, medical, educational and even high-tech engineering companies.

Caledonia Industrial Estates occupies 672 hectares of land near the Trans-Canada Highway in the city's north end and is presently home to more than 85 businesses.

The park, one of two operated by the city, cannot expand with existing infrastructure.

"The Caledonia industrial park has been a fast-growing industrial park for Moncton and it's almost full to capacity," LeBlanc said.

The mayor said the city's role in the expansion is to attract companies to lots that include all the right amenities, while property developers would be in charge of constructing buildings.

Caledonia park currently includes such businesses as Shoppers Drug Mart, Source Medical, Bunzl Canada, Superior Propane, Irving Personal Care Ltd., game manufacturer Spielo and Molson's new brewery, which opened in 2007.

Moncton Industrial Development was created in 1959 as a joint partnership between the City of Moncton and Greater Moncton Chamber of Commerce.

It began expanding the Caledonia park in the 1990s and added another 140 acres to its serviced area in 2003.

Aside from Caledonia Industrial Estates, the organization operates the city's west-end Moncton Industrial Park, the first park of its kind in New Brunswick.

Moncton Industrial Park is at full capacity, due to its location adjacent to the CN's rail yards.

Business New Brunswick spokesman Ryan Donaghy said the province chose to help Moncton Industrial Development expand as part of its plan to encourage economic growth in the province.

"What Business New Brunswick is looking to do is to continue to diversify the economy," Donaghy said.

He said the forgivable loan is tied to the successful planned development of all 63 hectares.

mmmatt
Dec 31, 2008, 8:42 PM
Colour for the page

Skyline (from lutz mountain...a few kms away from downtown)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3092/3153775152_30112aa170_o.jpg
credit: Brian Branch on Flickr

MonctonRad
Jan 1, 2009, 9:24 PM
It looks like the new strip mall next to NBCC on Mountain Road has it's first confirmed tenant. The windows of the unit closest to Mountain Road are plastered with MegaWraps decals.

I wonder if this means that the MegaWraps franchise at Trinity is moving. The two locations are pretty close to one another....

mylesmalley
Jan 1, 2009, 11:22 PM
I wish PitaPit would open a location in Moncton.
That place and their 2am delivery service has saved my sanity on more than a few occasions when I'm in Fredericton.

Dmajackson
Jan 2, 2009, 12:14 AM
I was to Champlain Place this week and well even though i didnt get to Downtown Moncton, Dieppe looked good especially the new City Hall and the renovations at Champlain Place.

Nice map Myles it makes mine of Halifax look like crap. You even have more listed than me. :tup:

MonctonRad
Jan 2, 2009, 2:47 AM
A few more historical pictures for the page, from the Virtual Museum of Canada website.

http://media.rcip-chin.gc.ca/ac/nbmmnb05/X14010.jpg
A postcard showing the old CNR shops.

http://media.rcip-chin.gc.ca/ac/nbmmnb05/X14016.jpg
Old ICR train station

http://media.rcip-chin.gc.ca/ac/nbmmnb05/X14020.jpg
ICR "new shops" looking north

http://media.rcip-chin.gc.ca/ac/nbmmnb05/X14029.jpg
The tidal bore. Note the industries located along the riverfront

http://media.rcip-chin.gc.ca/ac/nbmmnb05/X14043.jpg
Central Methodist Church

David_99
Jan 2, 2009, 2:43 PM
Plans for 2009 include finalizing work on Paul Street, a major thoroughfare, and the aquatic centre as well as infrastructure improvements.

The makeover of Paul Street is to cost $10 million over three years.

Does anyone have any details about the Paul Street improvements? For $10 Million, it sounds like they're going to do more then just repave it... I hope. I dunno, maybe $10 Million doesn't get you as far as it used to.

gehrhardt
Jan 2, 2009, 3:35 PM
Does anyone have any details about the Paul Street improvements? For $10 Million, it sounds like they're going to do more then just repave it... I hope. I dunno, maybe $10 Million doesn't get you as far as it used to.

I know there was a lot of talk about it WAAAAAAY back in the forum somewhere, but there are so many pages in this thread now, I can't find it. :)

They will be widening it for sure (boulevard maybe?). There were rumours floating around that the Ultramar station and the strip mall next to it would be torn down so that the street could be rerouted a bit.

mylesmalley
Jan 2, 2009, 8:19 PM
I was to Champlain Place this week and well even though i didnt get to Downtown Moncton, Dieppe looked good especially the new City Hall and the renovations at Champlain Place.

Nice map Myles it makes mine of Halifax look like crap. You even have more listed than me. :tup:

Thanks Bedford_DJ. There are even more projects that I haven't included. However, it's important to point out that I've included _everything_ under construction, short of things like house renovations. Probably a good half of those are >$1,000,000 in value.

Dmajackson
Jan 2, 2009, 8:57 PM
Thanks Bedford_DJ. There are even more projects that I haven't included. However, it's important to point out that I've included _everything_ under construction, short of things like house renovations. Probably a good half of those are >$1,000,000 in value.

Good point. I don't incude things like road upgrades unless they are significant and include other upgrades like underground power lines.

At last count I had around 53 projects listed.

Jerry556
Jan 2, 2009, 9:32 PM
Are they still planning to finish Emerson park, kose they had like 7 or 8 buildings proposed for it, and they already built 3, but you always see lease signs there? are they maybe considering not going ahead with the rest?
does anybody know whats going on with the lot on st George that was foe sale 3 or 4 months ago behing the bus garage(near sharky pawn shop)??

mylesmalley
Jan 2, 2009, 10:27 PM
Good point. I don't incude things like road upgrades unless they are significant and include other upgrades like underground power lines.

At last count I had around 53 projects listed.

It's actually not that specific. The only road upgrades I mention are the realignment of Paul Street and the complete rebuilding of Mapleton Road. However, mine does list some things like the skate park expansion, a few strip malls, and the renovations to the old Hawk building-all of which are probably under 100k.

mylesmalley
Jan 2, 2009, 10:30 PM
Jerry, i think they're building the lots at Emerson as they find tennants for them. However, since they're such large buildings, they tend to have a pretty significant impact on the commercial rental rate in the area. i.e. they probably need to wait a year or two before demand exists to fill another one.

David_99
Jan 3, 2009, 2:41 AM
Jerry, i think they're building the lots at Emerson as they find tennants for them. However, since they're such large buildings, they tend to have a pretty significant impact on the commercial rental rate in the area. i.e. they probably need to wait a year or two before demand exists to fill another one.

A few years ago I had heard a (baseless) rumour that the original plan was to place most, if not all, of the major call centres of Moncton in emerson park. I remember this had me excited because I thought the land that is currently used by the Rogers call centre and parking lot could really be used for something more worth while for downtown. I had actually thought this might come true, until Rogers put the money into expanding their building...

I see Asurion has since replaced AOL in Emerson. I wonder if any of the other centres will follow suit.

Jerry556
Jan 3, 2009, 2:55 PM
Did they already expand the rogers all center downtown?? didn't notice.

mmmatt
Jan 3, 2009, 3:17 PM
Did they already expand the rogers all center downtown?? didn't notice.

Yep, they did it this past summer. They hired on about 100 new people as well.

MonctonRad
Jan 3, 2009, 3:37 PM
I have taken the liberty of reprinting "The Sleuth" in nearly it's entirety from the T&T today. I think it neatly summarizes what will be happening in Moncton in terms of more high profile projects over the course of the next year.

The Sleuth

Welcome to a new year, a year sure to be filled with healthy doses of juicy gossip, deep dark rumours and fearless predictions. Since it is the beginning of the year, Sleuth feels it is time to dust off his ancient crystal ball and peer deep into its secrets. Here's what it says for 2009:

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In the City of Moncton, Sleuth sees progress on some major redevelopment projects over the next 12 months.

Look for real, visible construction on our long-awaited provincial justice centre. We should also hear news early in 2009 on a new provincial jail for southeast New Brunswick. The ugly concrete bunker on Assomption Boulevard will be gone by the end of 2010, Sleuth hears.

Also stay tuned for some major work on the city's trail system. Sleuth hears there's a five-year plan afoot to eventually link all of the city's major parks -- Centennial, Riverfront, Mapleton and Irishtown -- so walkers, runners, hikers and cyclists can travel the city by trail.

l l l

Regarding development, watch for some new stores in the Mapleton Power Centre to finally appear by this summer. There had been a few hush-hush rumours the economic downturn might delay retail expansion, but Sleuth hears that most of the stores previously committed to the next phase of development in the Trinity area are going forward.

Two huge downtown residential complexes will also start to take shape in 2009 -- both done by local developer Valmond Robichaud. A $10 million condo high-rise with retail on the ground floor will be built on East Main Street between Harper's Lane and King Street. Another huge residential complex of either condos or apartments will encompass the entire block bordered by Dominion, High and Gordon.

The big question heading into next year is the fate of the much-anticipated downtown Metro Centre.

A firm that has done similar work for the Corel Centre in Ottawa and the Labatt Centre in London, Ont. has been hired to prepare a business plan. The results are expected by the end of March. That'd be just about the time Ottawa and the province start looking at submissions for infrastructure funding.

Sleuth hears it may be too much to expect construction to start this year, but it is very likely all of the building blocks will be in place by the end of the year to begin construction in 2010.

l l l

On the entertainment scene in Metro, Sleuth sees only good things in 2009.

Inside sources at the Moncton Coliseum say music fans can expect at least 10 good shows there this year. It will be pretty quiet through January and February -- mostly because few acts are touring in those months. But things will heat up starting with the Great Big Sea/Spirit of the West show in early March.

The centerpiece of the city's entertainment year will, of course, be not one, but two, concerts this summer at Magnetic Hill Concert Site. After so much talk and backroom wheeling-and-dealing, it would be a mighty big surprise at this point if AC/DC didn't make a stop at the Hill. As for the second show, Sleuth has been sworn to secrecy but he can say the main act would be a big hit with the younger crowd.

l l l

In Dieppe, the long-awaited Dieppe Aquatic Centre will finally open after months of delays and cost overruns. This project will go down in history as a classic example of how not to build municipal infrastructure. Mayor Jean LeBlanc will invite former Mayor Achille Maillet to perform a belly flop to christen the new stainless steel pool.

In Riverview, it'll be business as usual. Or is that little business as usual?

Town council is desperate to see some development along the new Gunningsville Boulevard. It is good they are a patient bunch because it doesn't look good for any major announcements in 2009. But as the old movie line goes: "If you build it, they will come" (eventually).

l l l

This year will be the start of some fantastic seasons for Metro's sports fans. Look for the Moncton Wildcats to make a deep run in the QMJHL playoffs. And if they don't make it all the way this spring, this talented team is still in building mode for a real run in 2009-2010.

The highlight of the year will be the Ford Men's World Curling Championship April 4-12. Metro will show again it can pull off world events with class.

That sets the stage for the 2010's IAAF World Track and Field Championships and regular season games of Canadian Football League.

Looking into my own crystal ball, I'm beginning to believe in the possibility of as many as four tower cranes in Moncton in 2009.
- new provincial justice complex
- casino hotel
- Robichaud commercial/condo complex on east Main
- Robichaud condo/apts on High & Gordon

MonctonRad
Jan 3, 2009, 4:02 PM
Good problem to have, MonctonRad!

There are 82 points on the map at the moment. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say there's probably another 30 or so that I haven't included yet.

I'm thinking of adding an extra category for rumours. Got any other suggestions?


I perused your map. Here are some projects that you didn't include:

- Microtel Motel (proposed), Homestead Rd. near intersection with Mountain Rd.
- NBCC Moncton (planned), $20M redevelopment/expansion
- Ryan Road widening and reconfiguration (under construction)
- Evergreen Drive extension (under construction)
- Sobeys on Harrisville Blvd. (proposed)
- new condos at Royal Oaks (completed)

I'm sure that there are other projects to include but I can't think of them right now.

A big problem for this thread is that we tend to ignore activity in the three industrial parks and there is a lot going on there right now, especially at Caledonia. I wonder if any of the correspondents to this thread would be interested in looking after industrial developments?

mmmatt
Jan 3, 2009, 4:16 PM
Thanks for the article MonctonRad

Sounds like the Sleuth belongs on our forum...He seems to have the same ideas as us at the moment.

He seems very optomistic about the new downtown arena plan, construction as early as 2010?!! That seems very soon to me, but hey I wouldnt complain ;)

And AC/DC?!!!!!!! :D:D I would basically die if that turns out to be true haha. I know its been a rumour forever, but I never saw any real action...so I wont get my hopes up, but then again I doubted the Eagles last year...and I can personally say they were here, and they were amazing! It would be great to see two large concerts this year as well...the more the merrier for sure.

I also agree with you about the cranes, 2009 is shaping up to be a record year for downtown construction...very exciting indeed :)

mylesmalley
Jan 3, 2009, 7:41 PM
MonctonRad, thanks for the help! The map is definitely still a work in progress, and as soon as I get a few minutes I'll add those. I've started to include some of the industrial park projects, though I mainly only know the Dieppe park, as that's where I work.

I am completely indifferent on the AC/DC thing, however they seem to be incredibly popular in this part of the province for some reason.

As for the Sleuth, it wouldnt' surprise me if he checks this board from time to time. We're a pretty good source for all the juicy gossip development-wise.

mmmatt
Jan 3, 2009, 8:19 PM
I am completely indifferent on the AC/DC thing, however they seem to be incredibly popular in this part of the province for some reason.



AC/DC is up there with the best rock bands of all time, the Rolling Stones and the Eagles are up there as well. If Metallica came along too (highly doubtful, but they are also on tour at the moment) it would easily be the best and biggest concert at the Hill to date...it may be the biggest with just AC/DC alone :)

Obviously they are not for everyone, but they can draw a huge crowd (the majority of their tour dates for the next year are already sold out), and they put on a great show...I watched a few shows of theirs on DVD and they are amazing on stage, they were easily the best act at the SARS relief concert in TO a few years ago.

JasonL-Moncton
Jan 3, 2009, 9:11 PM
Myles the North End school on your map is in the wrong place, it's actually closer to the intersection of Ryan and Augusta terrace. On your map you can see a large 'cleared' area in the trees between Ryan and Rural Estates Dr, between Augusta and Timberline Way, in that area....it's going there, it's right behind my friends house.

mylesmalley
Jan 3, 2009, 9:20 PM
I just prefer bands who's songs don't all sound the same :p.

jk

mmmatt
Jan 3, 2009, 9:23 PM
Speaking of schools there is also that private school being built in Valhalla (2 or 3 floors I believe). And also there is a plan to build a new school to replace Gunningsville elementery in Riverview.

mmmatt
Jan 3, 2009, 9:24 PM
I just prefer bands who's songs don't all sound the same :p.

jk

hahaha! :P

True to a point I suppose, but Id say most bands have the same problem...save Wilco and a few others.

Back on the development topic, I hope the city continues to invest in infrastructure for the concert site, the biggest issue I saw at the Eagles concert was the lines for the bathroom...with over 100,000 cans of beer having been consumed its no wonder either haha. I think they should build a lot more permanent bathroom facilities. Also having some sort of permanent gate set up would be nice too, the temp ones just looked so thrown together...not inviting...more like you were entering a prison than a concert. That being said the majority of things were handled very well, but there is always room for improvement. :tup:

MonctonRad
Jan 3, 2009, 10:06 PM
Speaking of schools there is also that private school being built in Valhalla (2 or 3 floors I believe). And also there is a plan to build a new school to replace Gunningsville elementery in Riverview.


The private Lutheran school is currently under construction on Hildegarde Drive, right next to the Lutheran Church.

The replacement school for Gunningsville is very necessary (especially with the growth in east Riverview) but at present time can not be considered as anything more than wishful thinking.

And Myles, I agree with Jason-L, the proper location for the new north end school is on Ryan road at the intersection with Augusta Terrace, That is where it is going to be built. :)

mylesmalley
Jan 3, 2009, 10:24 PM
I kindof figured that. Seeing as the location I put it would have left it right next to a major highway.

riverviewer
Jan 4, 2009, 12:52 AM
Can I make a suggestion for the map? Can we add a footnote to each overlay comment that would have a number for the forum page that the project is discussed, or a picture is displayed? This would help give detail to the map and help us keep track of where everything is in this growing forum.

bam63
Jan 4, 2009, 2:34 AM
Papa John's pizza is advertising opening soon and accepting resumes on Kijiji.These guys are big in the states and i think will be the first in new brunswick.
Little Ceaser's are supposed to open a second outlet in the new strip mall next to nbcc.
Hope ya'll like pizza!

MonctonRad
Jan 4, 2009, 3:55 AM
Papa John's pizza is advertising opening soon and accepting resumes on Kijiji.These guys are big in the states and i think will be the first in new brunswick.
Little Ceaser's are supposed to open a second outlet in the new strip mall next to nbcc.
Hope ya'll like pizza!

Pizza Pizza!!!!

Thanks for the info bam63. We now have two confirmed tenants for the NBCC strip mall, MegaWraps and Little Caesar's. Somehow I'm not surprised that there will be fast food places going in there. NBCC would provide a couple thousand nearby empty tummies!

mmmatt
Jan 4, 2009, 4:41 AM
Pizza Pizza!!!!

Thanks for the info bam63. We now have two confirmed tenants for the NBCC strip mall, MegaWraps and Little Caesar's. Somehow I'm not surprised that there will be fast food places going in there. NBCC would provide a couple thousand nearby empty tummies!

Agreed, I have heard people milling about at the school that they hope there is more food options going there as many students don't have a car. Right now Subway and Dairy Queen get all the business, and they are packed to the brim to the point where I dont even attempt them anymore.

mylesmalley
Jan 4, 2009, 5:51 AM
Can I make a suggestion for the map? Can we add a footnote to each overlay comment that would have a number for the forum page that the project is discussed, or a picture is displayed? This would help give detail to the map and help us keep track of where everything is in this growing forum.

That's phase two!
That'll take a lot longer to roll out though, so I've been focusing on getting as many points listed as possible first. However, I'll try to throw some pics together for downtown at least.

mmmatt
Jan 4, 2009, 4:37 PM
Lazy Sunday Post

Couple of neat finds on the city website:

This is a pdf about the retail market in Moncton in 2008, compared to other Atlantic Canadian cities.
http://www.moncton.ca/Assets/Retail+Market+1.pdf

Web Cams, however only the first 2 are up.
http://www.moncton.ca/Visitors/Web_Camera.htm

Colour for the Page

UdeM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1163/3165535590_f30ddbf1c1.jpg?v=0
credit: baseman79 on flickr

Beware of the lines
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1021/3163822135_9486293013.jpg?v=0
credit: Stephen Downes on flickr

Crystal Palace Roof
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3106/3162679273_d4f0e7615d.jpg?v=0
credit: Brian Branch on flickr

mylesmalley
Jan 5, 2009, 3:39 PM
Dumont on track to become teaching centre
Published Monday January 5th, 2009

Report to be filed this month with health minister
A1
By Jesse Robichaud
Times & Transcript Staff

FREDERICTON - Health Minister Mike Murphy says the Dr. Georges-L.-Dumont Regional Hospital is on an unwavering course to become a university teaching centre.

The first step is charting the course, and Murphy will receive a report this month from a committee that was struck in April to draw up a step-by-step plan to transforming the Dumont into a teaching centre.

"It's a roadmap to become a university teaching centre; only once I get the roadmap then we begin down the road," said Murphy.

"A university teaching centre is not something that happens overnight, but once you commit to it and you get the wheels in motion it goes from A to Z very quickly."

The committee is comprised of representatives of the Centre de Formation Médicale du Nouveau-Brunswick, l'Université de Moncton, l'Université de Sherbrooke, the Regional Health Authority and the provincial government.

The report will determine roles and responsibilities for each organization involved, and it will determine the next steps forward, and it will set the parameters and protocols that will chart the course.

For example, the report will look at how the hospital can ensure its clinical facilities and teaching facilities work together, and how the medical advisory committee's standards coincide with the teaching practices.

"All of these things are being very clearly looked at by this committee," said Murphy.

"That committee is going to give me a report outlining how one is to construct this university teaching centre. They may say a structure should be this, this and this."

As a teaching centre, the Dumont would be able to tap into new funding and attract new doctors and researchers by establishing itself as a focal point for medical research. It would draw upon local expertise at the Université de Moncton and the Atlantic Cancer Research Institute, and create partnerships with other institutions across Canada and the world.

Although the nuts and bolts of the creation of a university teaching centre aren't yet known, Murphy said he has no intentions of backing away from the initiative.

"What I would like to say is that its pretty obvious what my intentions are. I didn't strike the committee to give people something to do on Sunday afternoon," said Murphy.

"The reality is that the Dumont is going to become a teaching institution." Murphy said funding details will have to be worked out with the federal government, but he said funding negotiations will not hold up the initiative.

"We're not going to be holding it up at some point and saying we don't have the funding."

He said once a project of this nature is undertaken, it is too late to turn back.

Murphy said a legal challenge of his reforms to the province's health authorities will not slow down the project.

ErickMontreal
Jan 6, 2009, 3:55 PM
Metro's booming economy fuels baby boom
Numbers of births in 2008 up at both Metro hospitals; economy, region's shifting demographics play role

Published Tuesday January 6th, 2009
BY NICK MOORE
TIMES & TRANSCRIPT STAFF

Could a booming economy in Metro and changing population demographics be combining to make local maternity wards busier?

Both city hospitals in Moncton reported an increase in the number of births last year and an administrator at one the hospitals says there's a direct link to the changing population in the area and the jump in babies being born.

According to unofficial numbers provided by each facility, The Moncton Hospital and the Dr. Georges-L. Dumont Regional Hospital saw a combined total of 2,059 births in 2008 (with 1,224 of those births taking place at The Moncton Hospital and 835 at the Dumont). The birth totals at both hospitals are up from 2007 numbers (by 37 babies at the Dumont and 19 babies at The Moncton Hospital).

Claire LeBlanc, administrative director of women's and children's health at The Moncton Hospital, said the steady growth recorded in certain demographics is behind the rise in birth rates. LeBlanc noted The Moncton Hospital saw an 8.3 per cent increase over two years in the number of facility births (or what would amount to 94 babies) between 2006 and 2008.

LeBlanc said new investments being made in community business and infrastructure will only drive those numbers up as more people in key demographics (particularly age 30 to 35) come to the area. She cited a new casino near Magnetic Hill as one example of what might be attracting younger people to get a job in Metro in the near future.

"It's going to attract a certain age group and the age group it's going to attract will probably be one where they're trying to begin families," said LeBlanc.

Census results for the age 25-44 demographic in Metro showed an increase of 480 people between 2001 and 2006.

LeBlanc said there's nothing to suggest the growth will end anytime soon and she doesn't anticipate seeing a decrease in local maternity ward activity.

"Next year, I see us increasing at the same pace, if not more," she said.

As far as how this growth might be affecting the efficiency inside local delivery rooms, LeBlanc said they're ready to handle any increase in births for the time being.

"We're able to accommodate that number with the number of physicians and staff we have," she said. "We have enough rooms to accommodate the number of deliveries we experience on a regular basis. If it continued to increase at the rate it's increasing, we may have to come up with another plan, but right now it's manageable with the staff we have."

Figures showing how many babies were born across New Brunswick in 2008 won't be officially compiled until the beginning of May. However, numbers from 2007 show that 7,230 babies were born across the province and that more than a third were born in one of Metro's two hospitals.
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Second Metro Quiznos restaurant opens
Grand opening of Elmwood Drive location will be held later this month

Published Tuesday January 6th, 2009
A5
By Yvon Gauvin
Times & Transcript staff

Ray Embree has high hopes for his Quiznos Sub restaurant, which opened three weeks ago at 331 Elmwood Dr., Moncton.

Quiznos subs and sandwiches are second to none, he says, inviting everyone to come experience the taste for themselves.

Embree, who is originally from Cape Breton, is a registered nurse by profession but also holds a business degree and had long harboured the idea of starting his own business some day.

He first tried a Quiznos Sub seven years ago and never forgot the taste, he said. So when he saw a television advertisement offering franchises, he made the decision to try owning and operating his own restaurant.

"I really liked the product," he said, adding the "products will sell themselves."

It took two years of work and several weeks of training to reach the stage where he could open his own restaurant, he said.

The restaurant is in the Elmwood Drive plaza, alongside Tim Hortons, Lawtons Drugs and Pizza Delight.

The traffic count along Elmwood Drive was one of the selling points for the location, he said. The Université de Moncton campus and the Caledonia Industrial Park are also in reasonably close proximity.

The restaurant is offering a daily special consisting of a 12-inch sub for $5 with six different subs on the menu until the end of February.

The prime rib sub, another favourite, measures 9 inches long and sells for $6.99, he said.

The restaurant has 22 different sub combinations, four soups, $2 "sammies" or sandwiches, pizzas, cookies, chips and a pepper bar on the menu board.

The store hours are from 11 a.m. to 10 p.m. Monday through Saturday and 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. on Sundays. He's also looking at extending the hours on weekends but not right now.

The business employs five to 10 workers at present.

The grand opening will be held later this month, he said, adding he plans to offer a $3 combo meal as part of the festivities.

The first order of business is to create awareness of the new restaurant to continue building a steady clientele.

The Quiznos Sub chain has in excess of 5,600 franchises world-wide with 400 across Canada.

A second Quiznos Sub location in Metro Moncton, located at 18 Champlain St., Dieppe, has been in business for three years.

JasonL-Moncton
Jan 6, 2009, 5:28 PM
Damn...that's TOO CLOSE to my house.... :p lol!

David_99
Jan 6, 2009, 5:36 PM
Damn...that's TOO CLOSE to my house.... :p lol!

Same here but I was never a fan. I've yet to see a soul in the Main st location. I'm sure they must get business and maybe I'm just walking by at the wrong time, (5pm?) but it always seems empty.

gehrhardt
Jan 6, 2009, 9:27 PM
Hmm, I remember when Quiznos first opened in Brunswick Sq in SJ. They were completely confused when I told them what I wanted on my sub. It's like they'd never been to Subway. Each employee had to explain to the next that I didn't want what was on the menu. They were trained to follow the ingredient sheet and got all flustered with my order.

Hopefully things have changed since then, but it was a bad enough experience that I haven't eaten at one since. I've looked at their menu and every sub has at least one ingredient I don't like. :yuck:

mylesmalley
Jan 6, 2009, 9:27 PM
Man, I sure hope Quiznos paid for that advertisement. What passes for journalism here blows my mind...

and what happened to their location on main street?

MonctonRad
Jan 6, 2009, 10:02 PM
Interesting that about a third of all deliveries in the province are at either the GDH or TMH. This certainly is good evidence that there is a younger demographic here in southeastern NB and argues favourably for continued future growth in our community.

I guess that they will have to keep on building more new schools here in metro. There are not too many communities in Canada that can say that their birth rate is going up!!

:tup:

BTW, Quiznos isn't that bad. I like their selection somewhat better than Subway.

MonctonRad
Jan 7, 2009, 1:34 AM
They are putting up the structural steel for the new strip mall adjacent to Lounsburys

P Unit
Jan 7, 2009, 2:08 AM
Man, I sure hope Quiznos paid for that advertisement. What passes for journalism here blows my mind...

Haha i was just thinking the same thing. God the T&T is an awful newspaper.

JasonL-Moncton
Jan 7, 2009, 1:16 PM
Same here but I was never a fan. I've yet to see a soul in the Main st location. I'm sure they must get business and maybe I'm just walking by at the wrong time, (5pm?) but it always seems empty.

Well...I meant it was too close 'because' I LIKE it too much. I love Quiznos...I'd take it over Subway ANY day.

JL

alienc
Jan 7, 2009, 1:36 PM
I know there was a lot of talk about it WAAAAAAY back in the forum somewhere, but there are so many pages in this thread now, I can't find it. :)

They will be widening it for sure (boulevard maybe?). There were rumours floating around that the Ultramar station and the strip mall next to it would be torn down so that the street could be rerouted a bit.

This is what was in the TT back in May:

Paul St. to be fixed — in three years

Five lanes, decorative
lighting, underground
wiring planned for
busy Dieppe street

By James Foster
Times & TRanscRipT sTaff

The first phase of the reconfiguration
and reconstruction of Paul
Street will start this year, with most
of the work taking place next year,
Dieppe city council decided yesterday.

“It has to be done,” Mayor
Achille Maillet said after a special
mid-day council meeting.

“It’s past due, when you consider
that about 12 million people go to
the (Champlain Place) mall every
year.”

The total makeover of Paul
Street and the municipal infrastructure
underneath the street will cost
about $10 million. Phase one will
take three years and $6 million,
with about $1 million being spent
this year.

It will begin near Highway 15
(Veterans’ Highway) and proceed
southerly to Sunset Street. Phase two will
extend from there to Champlain Street.
Phase three will involve the area around the
intersection of Champlain and Paul streets,
possibly including access to lands behind the
existing Irving Mainway store that is not currently
accessible for development.

Staff told council and this newspaper that
the exact future configuration of Paul Street
depends on how negotiations end with landowners
along the busy commercial street.

However, residents can expect new intersections,
new entrances and exits from retailers
and services along Paul Street, a median
down the middle and an additional, fifth lane
from the four-lane highway between Moncton
and Shediac leading into Champlain Place
and Crystal Palace.

Land negotiations continue with property
owners along the street.

Councillor-at-Large Jean Gaudet challenged
council to be visionary when it comes
to sidewalk and crosswalk safety as well as to
the environment, pushing for a roundabout
rather than a traditional intersection at the
reconfigured street’s major traffic crossing as,
he said, they are far more safe and efficient in
moving traffic along and thus more environmentally
sound.

While the exact look of the new road won’t
be known for some time yet, it is clear that
the current mishmash of entrances and exits
into and out of the relatively short street’s
more than 100 businesses will be changed to
promote efficient movement of traffic.
The street surface has seen much better
days, with council recently opting not
to spend money paving it in the knowledge
it was about to be completely transformed,
something Maillet termed “responsible and
prudent.”

The third year of phase one will be mostly
cosmetic in nature, with lighting, a top coat
of pavement, trees and shrubbery installed.

When finished, the entire street will be
transformed, including the underground
infrastructure, which is also due for replacement.
Decorative lighting akin to what exists
now on Champlain Street is being considered
for Paul Street and the plans call for extending
Dieppe’s popular riverfront trail along
one side of the new street so that people can
walk, bicycle or even rollerblade their way to
the shopping district.

One side of the street will feature a more
traditional concrete sidewalk along its full
length.

Overhead wires would be buried to add to
the area’s aesthetic appeal.

Council’s resolution yesterday approves
only the first phase of the project.

A number of candidates in Monday’s
municipal election were in the public gallery
yesterday, some of whom thought the timing
of the announcement was politically suspect.
One asked to publicly address the meeting
but was turned down on a point of procedure:
where public council meetings in Dieppe
routinely entertain questions from the public,
the rules of order state that at special meetings,
such as yesterday’s, only topics on the
agenda can be dealt with, and there was
nothing on the agenda pertaining to taking
questions from the public.

That rule could be overruled, however,
with a motion from a council member to do
so, though only if it received unanimous
support, a point that proved moot since no
motion was forthcoming.

( Also, I remember reading something that all of the tenants in the strip mall next to the Sobeys are on month to month leases because the rumour is that the owners of the property intend to sell it so that the road can be straightened out. It also is supposed to include the Gas station as well in order to widen the road at that point )

alienc
Jan 7, 2009, 1:43 PM
From the T&T

Out with the old

http://harvest.canadaeast.com/image.php?id=228077&size=0x400

An excavator yesterday rips down an old rooming house on Gordon Street in Moncton. Several vacant homes in a downtown block are being torn down to make room for new construction, possibly apartment buildings. The excavator operator was moving with precision yesterday to avoid power poles, power lines and other occupied buildings nearby.

I drove this way on the weekend and it's nice to see those buildings gone now. Unfortunately there are still 2 left on the block, one that is either being renovated or will be torn down and another that is actually being lived in.

The remaining buildings are more of an eyesore now, since there is nothing hiding them. It's too bad they couldn't buy that building as well and tear it down. It would need some serious work to make it appealing, even after they tear down the sheds on the properly and the 100 year old fence.

Will have to remember my camera next time and get some pictures.

MonctonRad
Jan 7, 2009, 2:46 PM
I drove this way on the weekend and it's nice to see those buildings gone now. Unfortunately there are still 2 left on the block, one that is either being renovated or will be torn down and another that is actually being lived in.

The remaining buildings are more of an eyesore now, since there is nothing hiding them. It's too bad they couldn't buy that building as well and tear it down. It would need some serious work to make it appealing, even after they tear down the sheds on the properly and the 100 year old fence.

Will have to remember my camera next time and get some pictures.

I believe AlienC that those buildings are to be torn down as well. The developers are just waiting for those two houses to be vacated. The new complex is to take up the entire city block.

mylesmalley
Jan 7, 2009, 2:49 PM
I seem to recall that the developer had bought those other two houses, and was just giving some time to the residents to move out. The paper was pretty clear that Valmond Robichaud had bought the entire dominion/gordon block.

MonctonRad
Jan 7, 2009, 2:52 PM
I seem to recall that the developer had bought those other two houses, and was just giving some time to the residents to move out. The paper was pretty clear that Valmond Robichaud had bought the entire dominion/gordon block.

Beat you by three minutes Myles!! :haha:

mylesmalley
Jan 7, 2009, 6:09 PM
Beat you by three minutes Myles!! :haha:

You win this time, MonctonRad....
http://www.batmania.com.ar/images/images_revista/joker_13.jpg

MonctonRad
Jan 7, 2009, 6:30 PM
You win this time, MonctonRad....
http://www.batmania.com.ar/images/images_revista/joker_13.jpg

I'm old enough to remember Caesar Romero as the Joker, what's your excuse... :haha: :haha:

mylesmalley
Jan 7, 2009, 7:20 PM
I'm old enough to remember Caesar Romero as the Joker, what's your excuse... :haha: :haha:

I've always had a keen appreciation for the classics :jester:

ErickMontreal
Jan 7, 2009, 8:08 PM
Dieppe : $78.9 million in construction permits in 2008

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/7202081.jpg

DIEPPE – In 2008, the City of Dieppe issued construction permits for a value of $78.9 million, registering another excellent year of economic development. Figures released by the Dieppe Building Inspection Services indicate that 678 permits were issued last year for a total of 382 units.

The building report provides the following breakdown : 575 residential permits; 84 commercial; 3 industrial and 1 institutional. The best month in 2008 was January with 19 construction permits and 4 units for a value of more than $10.5 million.

« Dieppe has had another great year even though we’re witnessing a financial crisis, said Mayor Jean LeBlanc. We are experiencing continuous growth in Dieppe thanks to our own residents who are our most important investors. They have confidence in their municipality and believe that this city has great potential. Although 2008 was very busy, we’re expecting another great year. »

In December 2008, the Building Inspection Services issued 18 permits for 16 units for a total investment of $2,492,157. Commercial construction accounted for 5 permits followed by 4 permits each for residential multi-unit and residential single-family dwellings.

David_99
Jan 7, 2009, 8:16 PM
:previous:

Any news on that "business" across the street from the Dieppe City Hall in that photo? Any rumblings that it might ever be moved or bought out? It kind of taints what they are trying to build out there on the main stretch.

mylesmalley
Jan 7, 2009, 8:49 PM
^^^ it's no worse than the x-rated video store across the street from the cathedral on St. George.

:jester:

churchill25
Jan 8, 2009, 12:21 AM
Unfortunately there are still 2 left on the block, one that is either being renovated or will be torn down and another that is actually being lived in.

Regarding Dominion, Gordon and High...
One house is occupied until the end of February, after the occupant has relocated it will be demolished.
The corner house is empty and will remain standing :( "for tax reasons" until the actual construction begins.

JasonL-Moncton
Jan 8, 2009, 1:30 PM
:previous:

Any news on that "business" across the street from the Dieppe City Hall in that photo? Any rumblings that it might ever be moved or bought out? It kind of taints what they are trying to build out there on the main stretch.

Ha Ha and notice 'that' business conveniently isn't 'in' this photo? lol

I had heard that the city was offering money, willing to move him, and give him a new piece of property out in the industrial park...but the money they offered didn't even come close to what he wanted.

JL

mylesmalley
Jan 8, 2009, 1:41 PM
I can't blame him. Regardless of his business, that is a prime piece of real estate.

gehrhardt
Jan 8, 2009, 3:22 PM
To paraphrase Monty Python... It has huge "Tracts of land" <wink wink, nudge nudge>

Sorry, I couldn't help it. :naughty:

FireEyedBoy
Jan 8, 2009, 3:42 PM
"it's no worse than the x-rated video store across the street from the cathedral on St. George"


The adult store actually closed about a month ago. I live across the street from that place, and I am pretty sure it wasnt a planned closing, as for about a week or 2 after I seen men still trying to return videos to them.lol. I think that something is going to be done with that building soon, for about the last month or 2, there has been people in and out of the building with surveying equipment and writing stuff down, If i see them around again I will try to get some info.

mylesmalley
Jan 8, 2009, 4:05 PM
I hadn't noticed that. The city just got two or three degrees less seedy.

FireEyedBoy
Jan 8, 2009, 4:13 PM
yeah, the signs are all down, now to get rid of that pub on the corner!! or at least the bands they have play, its ridicuous how noisey they are in the summer.

JasonL-Moncton
Jan 8, 2009, 5:35 PM
yeah, the signs are all down, now to get rid of that pub on the corner!! or at least the bands they have play, its ridicuous how noisey they are in the summer.

But entertainment in a downtown core is what brings people 'to' a downtown core. And before you say St. George isn't 'downtown', that it now falls under the pervue of DMIC says it is and the city plans vast upgrades on SG to assist in making it part of downtown.

JL

theshark
Jan 8, 2009, 6:13 PM
would be nice to see them add density between main and St-george, it would look more like a downtown core than a downtown street

FireEyedBoy
Jan 8, 2009, 6:32 PM
I really wouldnt consider the music at the 5 points entertainment, maybe in a sad/car crash kinda way. I can not wait until they start doing work on SG, it is much needed.

mylesmalley
Jan 8, 2009, 6:36 PM
Downtown is getting better, especially in the area between Main and Saint George. Off the top of my head, I can think of about 8 new 4+ story apartment/condo buildings that have gone up in recent years. The most recent being the infill project next to Shoppers, and now with at least two new buildings in the works for Gordon Street. While they aren't 10 story towers, the area is becoming a lot denser, and every little bit helps.

FireEyedBoy
Jan 8, 2009, 8:09 PM
Hopefully in a few years, they will have no choice but to start building taller developments in the downtown area,

mmmatt
Jan 8, 2009, 10:22 PM
Hopefully in a few years, they will have no choice but to start building taller developments in the downtown area,

It will take at least a couple of decades before developers could be forced to build tall due to space constraints...we just have so much space around the area...but thankfully some recent developers can see the benefit of building tall now, and planning for the future (obviously speaking of Robichauld and not certain other developers *cough* veridoc *cough*)

MonctonRad
Jan 8, 2009, 10:44 PM
It will take at least a couple of decades before developers could be forced to build tall due to space constraints...we just have so much space around the area...but thankfully some recent developers can see the benefit of building tall now, and planning for the future (obviously speaking of Robichauld and not certain other developers *cough* veridoc *cough*)


Is Verdiroc even still around, I haven't heard hide nor tail of this group for about the last year.

MonctonRad
Jan 8, 2009, 10:48 PM
Realty company moves into former Burger King
Published Thursday January 8th, 2009

Anyone who used to seek out a bacon double cheeseburger after a late night downtown at Burger King would hardly recognize the interior of 696 Main St. now.

The downtown Burger King location closed in early 2007 and the space next to Studio 700 and Kramer's Corner has been vacant since.

Recently, Colliers International, a commercial real estate company, moved its offices into the building from its previous location at 735 Main St.

The interior of the building has been heavily renovated and this week work was being done to the outside of the building as well.

The interior of the former Burger King, which operated there for at least a decade, looks nothing like it used to. The wide open space has been replaced with several modern offices.


Too bad, I was hoping Starbucks might move in there. It would have been an ideal location for them....Oh well, at least the space won't be vacant.

mylesmalley
Jan 8, 2009, 11:11 PM
The way the housing market is going in the USA, real estate agents with drive thru's might not be all that farfetched.