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BStyles
Sep 10, 2009, 4:44 PM
Are those tarps up on the southeast corner to weld the joints where the columns were joined? Just wondered, I think they were bolted together at first, but I was wondering why they are covered now?

Yes, those are for welding purposes. You can usually see them weld at night. I'm guessing the tarp is also there for welding in the rain. Thy're starting to form the mechanical floor right now, so the columns have to be up to full strength.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/02/19/nyregion/ward.190.jpg

Eight years in, everybody give a warm hand to Chris Ward,..lol!

We'll give him a round of applause when he gives Silverstein back his money and the other two towers are going up.:yes:

Zensteeldude
Sep 10, 2009, 6:05 PM
The contract documents state that the site may or may not be closed for work on 9-11, but plan on no work.

At the bottom of the three communications rings is a huge track for the window washing cranes. Also, the fact that the MTVA backed out of the deal does NOT affect all the cell phone and microwave etc. antennas to be installed on the communications rings. I fully expect that structure to be built as currently designed. DCM was already awarded the contract to fab and erect it and I have not herd of any changes. There are alot of company's that want there stuff on top of the tallest building in NYC.

PS: lets hope the rain doesn't come and the wind doesn't get any stronger.

Plokoon11
Sep 10, 2009, 6:32 PM
They put metal sheeting on top of the complete columns corner. Just to tell you guys.

Zensteeldude
Sep 10, 2009, 6:35 PM
It's called "decking" and that's good news. It's the first step in putting a floor slab in.

Dirty Sandpit
Sep 10, 2009, 7:33 PM
You know I've been looking at this site for several months now and I finally figured out what the heck is going on. Wow...so they are going to put those collumns up and once they connect them all they can start building the floors on top of that. I cannot believe I didn't know this sooner!

uaarkson
Sep 10, 2009, 8:33 PM
You know I've been looking at this site for several months now and I finally figured out what the heck is going on. Wow...so they are going to put those collumns up and once they connect them all they can start building the floors on top of that. I cannot believe I didn't know this sooner!

What did you think they were for? =P

ardecila
Sep 10, 2009, 9:34 PM
What did you think they were for? =P

In all fairness, the complexity of underground work has been mind-boggling.

theWatusi
Sep 10, 2009, 9:39 PM
Yes, those are for welding purposes. You can usually see them weld at night. I'm guessing the tarp is also there for welding in the rain. Thy're starting to form the mechanical floor right now, so the columns have to be up to full strength.



I would think that the tarps are more for protection of passers by who may inadvertantly look at the welding without a mask on.

Puzzlecraft
Sep 10, 2009, 11:08 PM
Here's a picture I put together showing how the memorial plaza site has changed since 9-11 last year, trying to place the current image as closely as possible over where last year's memorial was held. Look at serrated wall at the bottom of the first two pictures for reference. Massive progress!

Meanwhile a circle-of-remembrance thingie (no disrespect intended) has been set up for this year to the far left of the plaza with widened access path extending to the street.

Big Red has been put to sleep and the extra catwalks stowed, as the winds have been picking up.

http://www.custompuzzlecraft.com/temp/20090910_and_20080911.jpg

NYguy
Sep 11, 2009, 3:41 AM
Here's an overall update from WCBS 2

ODz43_OL5Co

BStyles
Sep 11, 2009, 4:03 AM
Larry Silverstein has a point. It's not going to take forever for the economy to rebound, and by the time the office towers are completed by their proposed dates of 2037, there will more or likely be jobs elsewhere. I mean, they can't leave two holes in the ground, nor retail stumps, there's too much infrastructure at stake.

My god, it took them one year to build all of that on the memorial since they removed the ramp. They've been hauling ass!

To all the pessimists who have been doubting the World Trade Center(despite it's setbacks) things are definitely looking up for the memorial.

Back on topic, I expect the column-a-day schedule to start up by next week monday since they park the cranes for the weekend.

I would think that the tarps are more for protection of passers by who may inadvertantly look at the welding without a mask on.

That could work too.:D

Acer1
Sep 11, 2009, 4:03 AM
Here's an overall update from WCBS 2

ODz43_OL5Co

I was hoping for a positive story about how much incredible work has been done up to this point and remembering those who died in the attack. Instead we got this crap about 'delays delays delays'. Who f***ing cares? Oh and those exclusive never allowed to be seen until now shots were pathetic. NYguy does a better job taking shots and so does everyone else who's contributed. What an annoying video.

JSsocal
Sep 11, 2009, 4:04 AM
Nice to see an unbiased and truly factual report there, a far cry from David Shuster:rolleyes:

NYguy
Sep 11, 2009, 4:42 AM
http://www.connpost.com/ci_13310393

Stamford man is consultant on WTC rebuilding

By Magdalene Perez
09/10/2009

The first time John Mallozzi stepped onto the One World Trade Center construction site, he experienced a heady mix of emotions.

The Stamford resident and engineer was hired to advise on concrete shoring at the building, one of the first to rise from the ashes of the former World Trade Center after the Sept. 11 attacks.

Collavino Construction, a subcontractor at One World Trade Center, hired Mallozzi about six months ago to consult on concrete shoring and re-shoring as construction takes place. As workers create the steel structure, concrete has to be poured to support each floor's weight. Mallozzi was brought in as a specialist in temporary shoring and building supports. In his 30 years in construction and engineering, he has worked projects that include Stamford's urban redevelopment under F.D. Rich.

The most interesting part of working on the site was figuring out how to design temporary supports near the foundation that would allow PATH trains running between lower Manhattan and New Jersey to operate below, Mallozzi said. Now finished with that task, his role is working on the concrete core of the building where the elevator and stairs will be.

Mallozzi said the design, led by architect Daniel Libeskind's master plan, provides more security than the former towers in the event of a similar attack.

"The way this building is designed now, there is no way the same thing could happen that happened before," Mallozzi said. "The core would be able to stand by itself even if the rest of the building fell away, and the people would be able to get out."

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site96/2009/0910/20090910__cp0911stmallozzi~05_GALLERY.jpg
John Mallozzi, of Stamford, a member of the board of representatives, is a structural engineer working at the Freedom Tower site in New York.
He signs an American flag at the site on Thursday, Sept. 10, 2009.

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site96/2009/0910/20090910__cp0911stmallozzi~01_GALLERY.jpg


http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site96/2009/0910/20090910__cp0911stmallozzi~04_GALLERY.jpg

NYC4Life
Sep 11, 2009, 5:47 AM
NY Post

Ground Zero progress: World Trade site rebuilding effort finally showing progress
BY Douglas Feiden
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Thursday, September 10th 2009, 5:20 PM

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/09/11/alg_wtc.jpg
Maisel/Newshe
site of the new World Trade Center and 9/11 Memorial are already taking shape on the huge construction site.


The toughest construction job on Earth - the rebuilding of the World Trade Center - is finally showing dramatic signs of progress on the eighth anniversary of the attacks of 9/11.

Giant steel beams framing the iconic 1,776-foot Freedom Tower have soared 105 feet above street level - and enough concrete has been poured into the Sept. 11 Memorial to pave 100 miles of New York City sidewalks.

Long on the defensive for shredding its budget and bungling reconstruction with multi-year delays, the Port Authority invited the Daily News to tour Ground Zero to trumpet its breakthroughs on the 16-acre site.

Accomplishment No. 1: The twin waterfalls, fountains and reflecting pools that define the Memorial are emerging as majestic works of art, while the still-unfinished plaza is ready for the first time to host the victims' families for Friday's observances.

How critical is a timely completion of the Memorial by the 10th anniversary on Sept. 11, 2011?

"All else pales in comparison," PA Executive Director Chris Ward told The News.

Also gracing the site is the "East-West Connector," a striking subterranean passageway 60 feet below the streets of lower Manhattan that will revolutionize the way tens of thousands of New Yorkers commute to their jobs.

A pedestrian shortcut that will transverse the World Trade Center site, its signature element is 55 soaring arches designed by Spanish architect Santiago Calatrava.

The PA has already installed 47 of those arches, which will tower above the luminous quarter-mile walkway between the Fulton St. subways and the World Financial Center, officials say.

"A year ago, people were still calling the site a pit," Ward said after a PA board meeting Thursday.

"Well, it's not a pit anymore."

Despite visible progress on the site, there are no completed buildings, terminals or other structures: The budget-busting delays that have dragged on for eight years, fueled by endless squabbling between the PA and developer Larry Silverstein, have taken their toll.


© Copyright 2009 NYDailyNews.com. All rights reserved.

J_M_Tungsten
Sep 11, 2009, 5:47 AM
Here's an overall update from WCBS 2

ODz43_OL5Co

I'm an optimist, but good God, Really!?!?! 2019 for Freedom Tower? and 2037 for the rest of the site? I don't think I want to watch this site go up for 28 more years! That seems totally unacceptable, I don't care how much political bs is involved.

TXAlex
Sep 11, 2009, 2:13 PM
I'm an optimist, but good God, Really!?!?! 2019 for Freedom Tower? and 2037 for the rest of the site? I don't think I want to watch this site go up for 28 more years! That seems totally unacceptable, I don't care how much political bs is involved.

Seems like negative BS. Key word: "Fully Occupied" Their may be unfinished floors waiting decades for tenants.

NYguy
Sep 11, 2009, 2:48 PM
Seems like negative BS. Key word: "Fully Occupied" Their may be unfinished floors waiting decades for tenants.

They're just talking about that same report we discussed earlier, which was someone's "estimate" of when the towers would be fully leased. We can all make our own estimates at this point. No one really knows when these towers would be fully leased, but maybe they were using the magic 8-ball when they got those numbers. However, I would stick to the people who would know as far as completion timetables go, the Port Authority in the case of the Freedom Tower and Larry Silverstein in the case of the others.

theWatusi
Sep 11, 2009, 2:56 PM
http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showpost.php?p=296851&postcount=6421

I have seen a video on Comcast home page about the building progress, They have also laid out the time table for completion of GZ. I have the link and will post it here.

http://www.comcast.net/video/rebuilding-ground-zero/1248653502

2011 - Underground Memorial
2013 - Memorial Plaza an Trees
2013 - Tower1
2014 - Tower4
2015 - Tower2
2016 - Tower3

I don't Know how accurate the completion dates are but thats what they say. ;)

talltowers08
Sep 11, 2009, 3:12 PM
Anyone been on skyscrapercity page for 1wtc they have an amazing rendering of what some of the future steel to rise will look like, i cant get seem to copy the photo http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=419362&page=515

bkraig4life
Sep 11, 2009, 4:31 PM
I cant explain any better than, I come home from work every morning and check up whats going on. I know about the " Its going to slow" crap but to be honest, I enjoy the play by play from those in the know. I'm not concerned about the comlpetion date as much as I enjoy the daily updates of whats going on. I am not an expert nor do I add much to this thread, but I probably read as much here as most. I can truly say, that once this building starts going up,(Although it is) that I will surely have alot more knowledge as to what it takes to build such a building! By the way 9 11 turned out to be a pretty good day to take the day off, weather sucks!

car2004
Sep 11, 2009, 7:52 PM
I was hoping for a positive story about how much incredible work has been done up to this point and remembering those who died in the attack. Instead we got this crap about 'delays delays delays'. Who f***ing cares? Oh and those exclusive never allowed to be seen until now shots were pathetic. NYguy does a better job taking shots and so does everyone else who's contributed. What an annoying video.

If you build it, they will come. Keep hoping and waiting, and you get nothing. These time lines are incredibly pathetic. These buildings, more so with the abilities of today, should be done in three years tops. You look at the history of construction and you think...

I am not one of those sensitive people to get all, "I don’t care, just as long as we remember those that died." Well, in retrospect, taking this long is, and as I said, with the abilities of technology today, extremely disrespectful to those that died. We should have had a memorial not six months after; instead, we are concern with cost and renting space.

Sorry, but I think it is very important to discuss the delays now, and if need be, over and over, to get the message out that we need to finish this now so those families that suffered can walk to a place of peace and remembrance and/or tip their hats off to the great technological developments put into this building. Moreover, not look at a building that took 16-20 years to construct because of fear of money problems. To me, it is just another reminder that cost is more important to many than a life.

NYguy
Sep 11, 2009, 9:08 PM
Anyone been on skyscrapercity page for 1wtc they have an amazing rendering of what some of the future steel to rise will look like, i cant get seem to copy the photo http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=419362&page=515

Assuming you are referring to this, originally posted on wirednewyork.com...

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6195/gzrobotic8.jpg

We'll see all of the lower columns in before we get to that, but its pretty accurate looking.

Plokoon11
Sep 12, 2009, 12:04 AM
Are they going to put concrete covering over these beams, because for some reason it seems a bit unsafe.

theWatusi
Sep 12, 2009, 12:57 AM
The core beams yes, the outer beams no.

CHAPINM1
Sep 12, 2009, 1:28 AM
Also, before those upper outer beams are to go up at the base, both cores and steel within will have to rise to an equal or greater height before so.

BStyles
Sep 12, 2009, 4:16 AM
Either they turned off the camera for the rest of the afternoon, or constant rain finally shorted it out.:haha:

That depiction of what the base will look like is amazing. It's size definitely compliments the base of the Shanghai WFC and 7 WTC.

ummagumma66
Sep 12, 2009, 9:16 AM
its great to see this thing finally getting off the ground!

NYguy
Sep 12, 2009, 12:47 PM
Pic from the Port Authority update...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117169872/original.jpg


Taken from wtc.com

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117169788/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117169822/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117169788/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117169822/original.jpg

2-TOWERS
Sep 12, 2009, 2:22 PM
look at the steel beams connecting the outer columns to the core, huge and thick.. big difference from the truss connectors used in the former towers.

Puzzlecraft
Sep 12, 2009, 5:48 PM
While the main earthcam is down again, the long dormant panning earthcam 3, which has been MIA for nearly two months is back..... almost like an old friend!

http://www.custompuzzlecraft.com/temp/20090912_WTC1_earthcam3.jpg

Pizzuti
Sep 13, 2009, 7:53 AM
The red steel reminds me of a shipyard rather than a skyscraper base. Also, the beams are more densely-arranged with irregular spacing. The engineering of this building looks to be totally different from other skyscraper bases on the same scale. It will be interesting to see how much of that is simply due to the fact that we're still close to the ground, and it will start to take a more familiar form when it gets higher.

wong21fr
Sep 13, 2009, 5:36 PM
^Well, the base is meant to be blast resistant and and the design does reflect that.

Personally, it's the thickness of the rebar and concrete that impresses me.

NYguy
Sep 14, 2009, 12:14 AM
An idea of just how robust the base will be, and how much will have to rise before we start seeing the office floors built...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117239818/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117239851/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117239872/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117239882/original.jpg

Plokoon11
Sep 14, 2009, 1:52 AM
I still can't get over how many elevators in in the WTC.

kznyc2k
Sep 14, 2009, 3:56 AM
Today

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1627/img0610oo.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6729/img0643jd.jpg

Plokoon11
Sep 14, 2009, 8:42 PM
Reported from source, another column up.

EDIT: Thank the lord the full functional HD camera is back online.

theWatusi
Sep 14, 2009, 8:53 PM
The cam has an old image...no decking on the SE corner on no columns on the NE

:???:

Aleks
Sep 14, 2009, 11:45 PM
An idea of just how robust the base will be, and how much will have to rise before we start seeing the office floors built...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117239818/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117239851/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117239872/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117239882/original.jpg


Hmm... What are those step like things around the base? They differ from render to render but they're still there in every render! And from what I see I don't like. I hope they don't build them, or they dome something different because they look really really bad. Plus I thought the entrances were at street level?

Anyways, I like the lit up lines in the plaza pointing to each entrance!

NYguy
Sep 15, 2009, 12:08 AM
Hmm... What are those step like things around the base? They differ from render to render but they're still there in every render! And from what I see I don't like. I hope they don't build them, or they dome something different because they look really really bad. Plus I thought the entrances were at street level?

The entrances are at street level. Those step like things are more like "bleechers" for the public plazas. There are also extra steps at West Street due to the lower grade (as with the memorial).

http://www.downtownexpress.com/de-164/uglyglassfortress.gif
downtownexpress.com


Update from morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/3919709993/sizes/l/) (Sept 14)

Looks like some concrete on the western plaza...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3503/3919709993_f5924bdd6e_b.jpg

NYguy
Sep 15, 2009, 12:17 AM
Aha! Work continues in the NE corner...

michaelputman (http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelputman/3919858595/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3493/3919858595_d28b34d1b1_b.jpg


with concrete evidence...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3507/3920607534_65e15eff8a_b.jpg

Aleks
Sep 15, 2009, 12:18 AM
I see. In the other pictures they looked like a concrete wall around for extra protection. That rendering made it look way better. I still don't like them though, I feel as they ruin the giant wall of the base. Some wooden benches that go around would be 'better' in my opinion. And the wall could e black granite or something with poems/quotes inscribed in them.

They do make the base seem more people friendly and more alive, instead of a concrete bunker. I'll have to way though, hopefully in the years to come better renderings will come out and as the building takes shape I'll get a better view/idea of how those 'bleachers' will work out.

uaarkson
Sep 15, 2009, 1:07 AM
Comparing those renderings to actual shots of the site, there doesn't appear to be enough room between the perimeter of 1WTC and the north pool to fit in all this plaza space and the new Fulton St. =\

wong21fr
Sep 15, 2009, 1:18 AM
There's no plaza along Fulton Street by 1WTC. The plaza is on the west and east sides of the building, but the building is directly abutting Fulton Street.

Plokoon11
Sep 15, 2009, 1:24 AM
It would be nice if they could ship 3 columns by morning and put them up through out the day, instead of one day one column.

theWatusi
Sep 15, 2009, 1:30 AM
It probably takes a fulls day's shift to do one of those columns.

Plokoon11
Sep 15, 2009, 3:34 AM
Good point forgot about the welding. I just figured out the webcam is fake right now, it has a picture from a week ago, and it isn't updating.

Puzzlecraft
Sep 15, 2009, 4:04 AM
Concrete Evidence..... nice.

car2004
Sep 15, 2009, 10:04 AM
An idea of just how robust the base will be, and how much will have to rise before we start seeing the office floors built...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117239818/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117239851/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117239872/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117239882/original.jpg

I have never seen the second to last picture before. It is...wow...No words. Looks like something from A.I. in which I would never think would be made or seen in real life. Nice, I hope that picture comes to life one day:)

Puzzlecraft
Sep 15, 2009, 1:52 PM
In that second to last picture there are long simulated blurs for some of the tail lights but all of the people are perfectly still. Sniff. Lol.

pattali
Sep 15, 2009, 2:15 PM
^^^ On the third render, there is a problem seeing west side of one wtc , base is not squared !

BStyles
Sep 15, 2009, 2:54 PM
Actually that's one of the first renderings of all the towers in place, and for some strange reason, the 1 WTC is the most twisted one(it looks like a parallelogram than a square). In the renderings of 1 WTC by itself found on Church Street, it gives a better view.

By the way, the earthcam is up again, but it's showing an old image.

Puzzlecraft
Sep 15, 2009, 6:00 PM
Judging from the few extra red pixels on the "webcam looking north" image, today's install was the extension piece on the diagonal column. Hard to tell.

theWatusi
Sep 15, 2009, 6:27 PM
Hi def cam is back and updated. Hard to tell what was done today as the crane is parked infront of the NE corner.

Ghost
Sep 15, 2009, 7:02 PM
Hi def cam is back and updated. Hard to tell what was done today as the crane is parked infront of the NE corner.

Can you give an url or am I just too stupid to find it on the EarthCam page? :D

mac78130
Sep 15, 2009, 7:08 PM
Can you give an url or am I just too stupid to find it on the EarthCam page? :D

http://www.earthcam.com/clients/groundzero/groundZero.swf

meh_cd
Sep 15, 2009, 7:13 PM
Hi def cam is back and updated. Hard to tell what was done today as the crane is parked infront of the NE corner.

Looks like they have the corner columns up. It'll be interesting to see how they do the next two since Big Red is kind of boxed in now.

Ghost
Sep 15, 2009, 7:16 PM
http://www.earthcam.com/clients/groundzero/groundZero.swf

Thanks a lot! :) Great progress lately on the site!

NYguy
Sep 15, 2009, 8:35 PM
Actually that's one of the first renderings of all the towers in place, and for some strange reason, the 1 WTC is the most twisted one(it looks like a parallelogram than a square). In the renderings of 1 WTC by itself found on Church Street, it gives a better view.

Remember, the tower is not in line with the rest of the towers on West Street, even tower 2. Just look at the footprint for the original 1 WTC to get an idea of the Freedom Tower's orientation.


Love looking at the massive columns...

michaelputman (http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelputman/3920526004/sizes/l/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2643/3920526004_a1880d3542_b.jpg

BStyles
Sep 15, 2009, 9:24 PM
I have never seen the tower move this fast.....construction for that matter. They have 4/6 colums tied in on the northeast corner, and now the rest of the pieces for the steel cage are being hauled in right now, and theyre being put in. The crane might just jump by late Sepember-early October!

BiggieSmalls
Sep 15, 2009, 10:37 PM
Red Crane along West Street is Gone.

Looks like a total of 4 columns installed in the NE Corner

Materials loaded into the South Pool

More form work in the South West Corner over the Path tracks

Looks like pouring over the western plaza and more definition of the iron work over the North Projection.

Could they br ready to lay iron over the E/W Connector on West Street?

What Else? South Projection looks the same.

NYguy
Sep 15, 2009, 10:54 PM
Cam shot, 6:50

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117319405/original.jpg

SD360
Sep 15, 2009, 11:01 PM
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: yay a corner is complete, and their building a section of a floor.

Puzzlecraft
Sep 15, 2009, 11:03 PM
What's impressive is not only was a fourth column put up, but it looks like both diagonal extensions were added too.

Puzzlecraft
Sep 15, 2009, 11:07 PM
Also just noticed that N. Core steel has begun to jump to being equal to the south core steel! A number of new vertical column are visible as well as some cross columns one level up.

Puzzlecraft
Sep 15, 2009, 11:07 PM
Meant erected, not "jumped" - jumping is for cranes!

rich_200
Sep 16, 2009, 2:23 AM
The "big red" was in charge of putting the beams of the South-East and North-East cornerns, but which crance is going to put the West corners?

BTW.- This past month they have gone really fast if we compare it to everything before :)

Acer1
Sep 16, 2009, 2:41 AM
Well I'm happy they poured part of the west plaza this week but was it enough to hold a mobile crane on top? Usually with big pours like this we get a decent length video of what happened just like the east plaza.

theWatusi
Sep 16, 2009, 1:43 PM
another column onsite today

uakoops
Sep 16, 2009, 1:46 PM
The "big red" was in charge of putting the beams of the South-East and North-East cornerns, but which crance is going to put the West corners?

BTW.- This past month they have gone really fast if we compare it to everything before :)

They will be putting another crawler crane on that side after the plaza is completely poured and has had some time to cure.

vandelay
Sep 16, 2009, 3:30 PM
North core steel finally caught up to south core steel height. Also the last column on the east side is finally up.

theWatusi
Sep 16, 2009, 4:21 PM
They've been busy today. :cool:

NYguy
Sep 16, 2009, 10:14 PM
Looking forward to the western side now...(cam shot, 6:10)

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117363517/original.jpg

theWatusi
Sep 17, 2009, 12:13 AM
^ I think the cam might be stuck again. That was the same image I saw around 3pm

NYCLuver
Sep 17, 2009, 12:41 AM
Pics I took today! :D

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_0546.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_0547.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_0548.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_0549.jpg

BStyles
Sep 17, 2009, 1:55 AM
The core, as we can now call it, is unified and can now rise in one form in with one pour. One more column to go on the northeast side tomorrow, and then it's off to West Street. The steel cage has finally caught up, and there might be a crane jump by the end of September, not December, depending on how things go.

Is the tower ahead of schedule now?:haha:

theWatusi
Sep 17, 2009, 2:26 AM
I wonder if they'll go ahead and put up the horizontal beam between the NE and SE corners

NYguy
Sep 17, 2009, 5:04 AM
Pics I took today! :D

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_0546.jpg


I love it.

mac78130
Sep 17, 2009, 12:31 PM
Is that a column or a horizontal beam that's now onsite?

theWatusi
Sep 17, 2009, 2:13 PM
I think it might be the horizontal beam. It looks like it has brackets? on the one side to accept the columns for the next level up.

Zensteeldude
Sep 17, 2009, 3:38 PM
It is the spandrel beam above the east entrance. There is a bracket in the center for a column on top of the beam, but all those brackets you can see on the cam are anchor points for the cable net wall of the entrance.

Looks like the rain has brought steel erection to a halt.:(

PS: This beam is light, less than 20 tons.

PPS: The sun has come out here (15 miles southwest of the site) and the steel in the yard is already dry.

bkraig4life
Sep 17, 2009, 4:09 PM
Great pics NYCLuver, every day seems that somethings happening, cant wait to see whats happening on the west side pour! Lots of concrete trucks today! Once those holes on west side are filled then everything should be even out and almost time to take off!(Should say that things are really begining to take off).

uaarkson
Sep 17, 2009, 4:57 PM
If they can make this much progress in the last month while still worrying about below-grade work, I'm sure things will skyrocket when it's done

BStyles
Sep 17, 2009, 5:37 PM
PS: This beam is light, less than 20 tons.


Less than 20 tons....looks like the Manitowoc is busy with Calatrava's arches, couldn't the north crane handle that?

There's also a massive concrete pour going on somewhere in the front of the site, gray cement trucks driving through.

Zapatan
Sep 17, 2009, 6:39 PM
I've heard this tower is supposed to have an outdoor observation deck, is that true?


Anyways as far as changing the design at the top it would just be changing the spire/supposed ring, not the actual building itself? The building could use a redesign.

alexjon
Sep 17, 2009, 7:36 PM
This thing makes me weak in the knees, oh jeez.

It'll be dang tall when I'm there in February.

Zensteeldude
Sep 17, 2009, 7:55 PM
Less than 20 tons....looks like the Manitowoc is busy with Calatrava's arches, couldn't the north crane handle that?

That is a distinct possibility. I believe it is within the load limit at that radius.

Zensteeldude
Sep 17, 2009, 7:57 PM
I've heard this tower is supposed to have an outdoor observation deck, is that true?


Anyways as far as changing the design at the top it would just be changing the spire/supposed ring, not the actual building itself? The building could use a redesign.

No, no outdoor Ob deck. Nothing well change visually on top, the spire structure well probably be redesigned to be lighter/cheaper.

Plokoon11
Sep 17, 2009, 9:02 PM
Man I heard the empire state building was built in a year and a half, and thats made of concrete and masonry, how come this tower can't ride like that? ;) I know I am asking to much.

RockMont
Sep 17, 2009, 9:08 PM
Man I heard the empire state building was built in a year and a half, and thats made of concrete and masonry, how come this tower can't ride like that? ;) I know I am asking to much.



It took the Originals a good 7 or 8 years to complete, and just like this one, the most difficult and slow part, was the bones underground, for those.

Dirty Sandpit
Sep 17, 2009, 9:28 PM
This thing makes me weak in the knees, oh jeez.

It'll be dang tall when I'm there in February.

lol don't bet on it! That's only 5 months away and it took all year just to get these columns up...I say they'll be just starting on the office floors by then. Who wants to be met on this one...$100? They got plenty of time to get it done, and I don't think they're in any hurry.

Dirty Sandpit
Sep 17, 2009, 9:37 PM
Man I heard the empire state building was built in a year and a half, and thats made of concrete and masonry, how come this tower can't ride like that? ;) I know I am asking to much.

Yeah I know; 410 days actually. But this like everyone else has been saying is a "complicated" site. Once they get all the mess straightened up I'm sure it will fly. Matter of fact it's been going along quite nicely and at this pace we should be getting somewhere soon.

Zapatan
Sep 18, 2009, 2:59 AM
lol don't bet on it! That's only 5 months away and it took all year just to get these columns up...I say they'll be just starting on the office floors by then. Who wants to be met on this one...$100? They got plenty of time to get it done, and I don't think they're in any hurry.


It'll top out in 2011 so it can't be too low, it'll probably in the low office floors

NYguy
Sep 18, 2009, 12:23 PM
Again, if you've been following this thread, you know what to expect. If you haven't, then welcome along for the ride. But please save those tedious comments about the slow pace of construction. Visible progress is being made almost daily now.

theWatusi
Sep 18, 2009, 1:10 PM
Looks like some more decking for the 3rd floor is on site. I wonder if they'll get to the horizontal beam today?

wong21fr
Sep 18, 2009, 4:53 PM
-Big pour going on between the two pools. Looks like they may be nearly finished with concrete in that section.

-Earlier today it looked like they were pumping concrete into the forms on the northern core. This is has got to be good because don't they have to bring the core concrete all they way up to the top of the current steel core structure before placing the second level of outer columns?

BStyles
Sep 18, 2009, 5:22 PM
No, there was no concrete pour at the north core, the forms were dismantled. That looked like it was for the western plaza, or the northern half of the B1 slab. Other than that, the steel cage rises faster than the concrete, so the lobby portion of the core is all the concrete pouring you're going to see for the rest of construction.

They're putting in the double-sized crossbeam now.

iamtal
Sep 18, 2009, 7:53 PM
I'm apologize about my poor English...

It seems that there is awesome progress on the last month.

Here is a picture 3 weeks ago (08-25-2009)
http://i35.tinypic.com/72vw2t.jpg

And here is a picture from today
http://i35.tinypic.com/rw8acm.jpg

NYguy
Sep 18, 2009, 8:13 PM
It's amazing how the perimeter columns changes the perception of things.

Dirty Sandpit
Sep 18, 2009, 9:11 PM
WOW! What a difference! Nice progress!