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jd3189
Sep 2, 2013, 5:17 AM
Thanks to NYCrulz for finding these great shots! :cheers:

Luis Jou García
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/luisjoujr/sets/72157635325191735/with/9643454711/)

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This is it. It now stands tall on its own. Better than the renderings with just the antenna. The essence is still there.

JKL1234-
Sep 2, 2013, 6:56 AM
Anybody see the movie Oblivion? In a flashback the completed WTC is shown from the Empire State Building's 86th floor observation deck. This is in 2017, the same year a war left the planet in ruins.

Sixty years later, the Empire State Building is buried up to it's 86th floor. You should be able to see the WTC buildings, but you can't, meaning that they got destroyed in 2017, right when the complex was newly open.

Anybody find this a little depressing? I know adding the ruins of the WTC would've cost more money and time, but still. Wouldn't it be cool to see the ruins of the towers in a movie?

sterlippo1
Sep 2, 2013, 8:22 AM
Anybody find this a little depressing? I know adding the ruins of the WTC would've cost more money and time, but still. Wouldn't it be cool to see the ruins of the towers in a movie?

No

Kurtz
Sep 2, 2013, 12:14 PM
best of the best would be the spire covered with same steel of the beacon

NewYorque
Sep 2, 2013, 4:51 PM
Anybody see the movie Oblivion? In a flashback the completed WTC is shown from the Empire State Building's 86th floor observation deck. This is in 2017, the same year a war left the planet in ruins.

Sixty years later, the Empire State Building is buried up to it's 86th floor. You should be able to see the WTC buildings, but you can't, meaning that they got destroyed in 2017, right when the complex was newly open.

Anybody find this a little depressing? I know adding the ruins of the WTC would've cost more money and time, but still. Wouldn't it be cool to see the ruins of the towers in a movie?


Oh yes I noticed that too. I was surprised because the WTC was not visible, however it is taller than the ESB.

But, you know, 9/11 is a "censored topic" in Hollywood so it's not allowed to mention a new destruction of the WTC. As you saw in Avengers, we never see the new WTC being destroyed by the aliens. And a new destruction-movie in NY wouldn't show anything related to the WTC

JordanCam
Sep 2, 2013, 6:20 PM
Oh yes I noticed that too. I was surprised because the WTC was not visible, however it is taller than the ESB.

But, you know, 9/11 is a "censored topic" in Hollywood so it's not allowed to mention a new destruction of the WTC. As you saw in Avengers, we never see the new WTC being destroyed by the aliens. And a new destruction-movie in NY wouldn't show anything related to the WTC

they were also forced to remove 1 wtc from the call of duty modern warfare 3 campaign... russians destroying the building doesn't look to good

kpdrummer82
Sep 2, 2013, 7:04 PM
they were also forced to remove 1 wtc from the call of duty modern warfare 3 campaign... russians destroying the building doesn't look to good

Well seeing as how it's still in the game, I guess it does look good?

UrbanImpressionist
Sep 2, 2013, 8:37 PM
One WTC from two infrequent viewpoints.

East River Park:

http://www.urbanimpressionist.com/misc/cityscapepics/NYC/eastriverpark.jpg (http://www.urbanimpressionist.com/m-freedom_tower_wtc-1.html)

South Street Seaport:

http://www.urbanimpressionist.com/misc/cityscapepics/NYC/seaport.jpg (http://www.urbanimpressionist.com)

GeorgiaBoy24
Sep 2, 2013, 10:28 PM
best of the best would be the spire covered with same steel of the beacon
Wasn't that what the original spire was supposed to be? :shrug:

Guiltyspark
Sep 2, 2013, 10:34 PM
Wasn't that what the original spire was supposed to be? :shrug:

No, it was supposed to be clad with radome material.

GeorgiaBoy24
Sep 2, 2013, 11:17 PM
So was the steel beacon added after they removed the radome? Or was it supposed to be above the radome anyway?

Silverfox
Sep 3, 2013, 12:44 AM
No, it was supposed to be clad with radome material.

The original design was a metal open lattice structure. It was later replaced with the radome conept due to fears that the open spire would allow the internal components to be damaged. They then scrapped the covering altogether.

Guiltyspark
Sep 3, 2013, 3:16 AM
So was the steel beacon added after they removed the radome? Or was it supposed to be above the radome anyway?

I believe, and someone correct me if I am wrong, that the beacon was always going to look the way it does. After all, they didn't really redesign anything, they just subtracted the radome covering and put up the structural parts that they had already construed in Canada. This makes sense when you look at the shape of the beacon; it looks like a cap to a wider structure that isn't there.

Guiltyspark
Sep 3, 2013, 3:18 AM
The original design was a metal open lattice structure. It was later replaced with the radome conept due to fears that the open spire would allow the internal components to be damaged. They then scrapped the covering altogether.

Yeah, but if you look at the whole conversation, this was clearly not what he meant by original spire design. He meant the radome covered version and incorrectly though the covering was planned to be steel.

fimiak
Sep 3, 2013, 3:28 AM
The funny thing is, is that 1WTC will probably outlive 90% of the towers in NYC because of its ridiculous strength of construction. 1WTC is the strongest building yet built by human hands, using the strongest concrete, the strongest iron, fireproofing, over-engineering of architectural weak points, etc. The Empire State Building is flimsy by comparison.

Roadcruiser1
Sep 3, 2013, 7:24 AM
The funny thing is, is that 1WTC will probably outlive 90% of the towers in NYC because of its ridiculous strength of construction. 1WTC is the strongest building yet built by human hands, using the strongest concrete, the strongest iron, fireproofing, over-engineering of architectural weak points, etc. The Empire State Building is flimsy by comparison.

Calling the Titanic unsinkable?

I highly doubt that the new buildings will exist as long as the Empire State Building. It's due to the fact that the site that it's standing on will guarantee that it will be attacked by terrorists. The World Trade Center is one of the places in the world that terrorists want to destroy, and there is nothing really out there that will be able to prevent another 9/11 or car bombing unless if we destroy terrorism..........

fimiak
Sep 3, 2013, 12:35 PM
Calling the Titanic unsinkable?

I highly doubt that the new buildings will exist as long as the Empire State Building. It's due to the fact that the site that it's standing on will guarantee that it will be attacked by terrorists. The World Trade Center is one of the places in the world that terrorists want to destroy, and there is nothing really out there that will be able to prevent another 9/11 or car bombing unless if we destroy terrorism..........

You didn't seem to grasp what I had written, though. This building is not something that can be destroyed by any amount of car bombs or even jetliners. It has been overbuilt to the point that no act of terrorism like we have seen before can bring it down. Of course I don't want to oversell it like the titanic, a nuclear attack by another nation would certainly put an end to the building, but this is a matter that would be far worse for everybody not in 1WTC, rather than inside of the building (especially the sealed core). The ESB was built with speed in mind, and is a building that is actually vulnerable to some form of attack.

Kurtz
Sep 3, 2013, 6:06 PM
No.
My point is that steel of beacon is much more beautiful than radome and lattice steel

DURKEY427
Sep 3, 2013, 6:30 PM
Are the tribute in lights going to be on this year?

NYguy
Sep 3, 2013, 9:47 PM
The original design was a metal open lattice structure. It was later replaced with the radome conept due to fears
that the open spire would allow the internal components to be damaged.
They then scrapped the covering altogether.

Pretty much.


No, it was supposed to be clad with radome material.

The beacon and the design of the radome spire are pretty much the same. It's the material that's different. That always seems to get lost.


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/150118375/large.jpg

Various radome versions
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/91204051/large.jpg




( September 2, 2013 )


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That's enough for now, will post the rest later.

bigreach
Sep 4, 2013, 12:32 AM
^^Nice job NYGuy!!!!!

alex4apple
Sep 4, 2013, 2:51 AM
Amazing photos! I can't wait to visit again in 2014! :cheers:

alex4apple
Sep 4, 2013, 2:54 AM
I am a bit confused though. When will the mast begin to light up at night? I haven't seen it lit up on EarthCam or when I was in NYC.

Guiltyspark
Sep 4, 2013, 4:06 AM
"The beacon and the design of the radome spire are pretty much the same. It's the material that's different. That always seems to get lost."

That's what I was saying.
The original (not lattice, that is going to far back) design called for a radome covering but a steel beacon. The current beacon shows the design elements, but not the materials that the rest of the antenna would have been clad in. This is a very simple concept but I guess things need to be spelled out.

We got the beacon part as it was always designed. We didn't get the radome cladding. There, I hope everyone gets it now.

Roadcruiser1
Sep 4, 2013, 7:35 AM
You didn't seem to grasp what I had written, though. This building is not something that can be destroyed by any amount of car bombs or even jetliners. It has been overbuilt to the point that no act of terrorism like we have seen before can bring it down. Of course I don't want to oversell it like the titanic, a nuclear attack by another nation would certainly put an end to the building, but this is a matter that would be far worse for everybody not in 1WTC, rather than inside of the building (especially the sealed core). The ESB was built with speed in mind, and is a building that is actually vulnerable to some form of attack.

Oh really??????????https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-25_Empire_State_Building_crash

http://www.radiodiaries.org/wp-content/uploads/Empire-State_001_L.jpg
http://www.radiodiaries.org/wp-content/uploads/Empire-State_001_L.jpg

NYguy
Sep 4, 2013, 11:38 AM
^^Nice job NYGuy!!!!!


The rest of the photos and a clip...


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eleven=11
Sep 4, 2013, 12:25 PM
I am a bit confused though. When will the mast begin to light up at night? I haven't seen it lit up on EarthCam or when I was in NYC.

yeah good question
is there a update on the mast ??
Wed morning lots of ropes moving all the way up to the top......

Skyguy_7
Sep 4, 2013, 1:26 PM
[QUOTE=NYguy;6254051]The rest of the photos and a clip...

24.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/152170140/original.jpg

Looks like they're removing scaffolding to finish up the glass where base meets the tower. Even with a small portion complete, it's tying the building together very nicely and will add a final burst of height. :yes:

j-biz
Sep 4, 2013, 1:30 PM
1WTC looks particularly gorgeous on this beautiful day. The beacon is so reflective it almost looks like it's on. Taken from Hudson River Park.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5460/9669898413_9ea9c60a89_z.jpg
jglover1028 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/98017496@N07/9669898413/sizes/z/)

NYC GUY
Sep 4, 2013, 1:44 PM
Looks like Spiderman's been swinging on the spire. There's white wire everywhere!

jd3189
Sep 4, 2013, 4:49 PM
Just a week away from the 12th anniversary of 9/11 and this tower is finally to full height. :cheers:

GeorgiaBoy24
Sep 4, 2013, 10:28 PM
1WTC looks particularly gorgeous on this beautiful day. The beacon is so reflective it almost looks like it's on. Taken from Hudson River Park.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5460/9669898413_9ea9c60a89_z.jpg
jglover1028 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/98017496@N07/9669898413/sizes/z/)
Now imagine the entire spire looking like that. :slob: Oh well still looks good the way it is.

ih8pickingusernames
Sep 4, 2013, 11:30 PM
Oh really??????????https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-25_Empire_State_Building_crash

http://www.radiodiaries.org/wp-content/uploads/Empire-State_001_L.jpg
http://www.radiodiaries.org/wp-content/uploads/Empire-State_001_L.jpg


It's still standing. The WTC will not be attacked again.

N830MH
Sep 5, 2013, 12:14 AM
Just a week away from the 12th anniversary of 9/11 and this tower is finally to full height. :cheers:

Yup, sure is. This will be 12th years anniversary of 9/11 attacks. May rest in the peace.

Guiltyspark
Sep 5, 2013, 3:07 AM
Every time i see the mast all I can think is "expecto patronum!"

Pizzuti
Sep 5, 2013, 3:36 AM
Calling the Titanic unsinkable?

I highly doubt that the new buildings will exist as long as the Empire State Building. It's due to the fact that the site that it's standing on will guarantee that it will be attacked by terrorists. The World Trade Center is one of the places in the world that terrorists want to destroy, and there is nothing really out there that will be able to prevent another 9/11 or car bombing unless if we destroy terrorism..........

I don't think there's any such guarantee. 9/11 was the result of a very organized plot that took advantage of an obscure vulnerability. That vulnerability doesn't exist anymore and the rebuilt 1 WTC is the most well-reinforced high rise on Earth.

I'm not saying that terrorists are reasonable people, but their motivation isn't hatred of buildings or inanimate objects. It's to influence political situations through news headlines and societal disruption, and to come across as powerful. Since it's common knowledge that the WTC is being re-built to withstand a terrorist attack, I think it makes it much safer from being targeted in the first place since there's such a high likelihood that the attack would fail. Let alone the fact that all currently-known forms of terrorism are prevented from getting access to the building or defended against by mechanisms built into the building itself.

1 WTC is probably one of the safest buildings in the world to be in, and it's impossible to know how long it will really last but pretty easy to say it will be there 100 years from now.

599GTO
Sep 5, 2013, 3:40 AM
That's enough for now, will post the rest later.

150 Greenwich's glass looks stunning in those photos.

eleven=11
Sep 5, 2013, 3:58 AM
Every time i see the mast all I can think is "expecto patronum!"

I have a Question
Is there any other web cams ?
Is Earthcam the only one ?

MolsonExport
Sep 5, 2013, 12:43 PM
Almost uniquely, this building turned out to be far better in actuality than in rendering. All except for the q-tip on top.

NYguy
Sep 5, 2013, 1:33 PM
It's still standing. The WTC will not be attacked again.

I don't think there's any such guarantee. 9/11 was the result of a very organized plot that took advantage of an obscure vulnerability. That vulnerability doesn't exist anymore
and the rebuilt 1 WTC is the most well-reinforced high rise on Earth.

There's a reason it's the most expensive office building on the planet.

But folks, unless you're part of a terrorists organization (and please let us know now so we can alert the proper authorities), no one knows for sure who or what or even if anything
will be attacked. So please leave that convo for somewhere else. We're here to discuss the construction of this building, or to agree or disagree on its appearance. :tup:



Gary Dunaier (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gary_dunaier/9673677550/sizes/h/in/photostream/)

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Skyguy_7
Sep 5, 2013, 1:41 PM
^ Pointy, stainless steel q-tips would be a tough sell! Once the beacon/mast lighting is permanently fired up, the spire will become a true icon of NY. It's the first thing hundreds of thousands will see on their commute in each day and night. I, for one, cannot wait for a late flight into LGA.

Le-TanK-
Sep 5, 2013, 6:24 PM
When is all the construction supposed to be finally done? (inside as well)

supertallchaser
Sep 5, 2013, 7:53 PM
i think in a life after people the last standing skyscraper would be 1wtc and 20s skyscraper(ESB,Chrysler,etc)

weidncol
Sep 5, 2013, 8:44 PM
Last piece of crane lowered today!

http://i.imgur.com/sBvzAsM.jpg

UNIT-344
Sep 5, 2013, 8:51 PM
Hey guys I have been following the site for the past year and its an amazing building. Nothing will ever replace the twin towers, but this building is a great symbol of the USA and its citizens. I just wanted to say that I hope the beacon is finally lit on September 11th and remains lit from that point forward. I saw pictures of the light tests they were doing months back. Does anyone have any insider information if the plan all along is to light up the beacon and mast on 9/11? Thanks!

NYguy
Sep 5, 2013, 11:30 PM
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N830MH
Sep 6, 2013, 3:28 AM
When is all the construction supposed to be finally done? (inside as well)

Actually, it will be done sometime in early 2014 or mid-2014.

NYguy
Sep 6, 2013, 12:14 PM
http://www.newsday.com/news/new-york/council-on-tall-buildings-weighs-1-wtc-s-height-claim-1.6020500

Council on Tall Buildings weighs 1 WTC's height claim

September 5, 2013
By WILLIAM MURPHY


Developers of 1 World Trade Center, formerly called the Freedom Tower, say that at 1,776 feet it will be the tallest office tower in the Western Hemisphere.

That claim is being considered by the authority of such matters -- the Chicago-based Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat. The group's Height Committee will convene in early November and hopes to make an announcement by Nov. 9, spokesman Daniel Safarik said.




http://www.newsday.com/911-anniversary/fencing-at-wtc-coming-down-adding-accessibility-1.6020583

Fencing at WTC coming down, adding accessibility

September 5, 2013
By WILLIAM MURPHY


Construction of 1 WTC, formerly known as the Freedom Tower, is to be finished on the northwest corner early next year, according to the Port Authority. The fencing at that corner will be removed soon after, and much of the fencing along the northern end of the property will come down when the Transportation Hub opens in 2015 and the temporary entrance to the PATH commuter trains is closed.

Most of the exterior work on 1 WTC is finished, including a 408-foot radio spire bolted to the roof in May. Interior finishing will continue into next year before the first tenant, Condé Nast, moves in, according to the Port Authority.

RockMont
Sep 6, 2013, 3:47 PM
That is good news. So the temporary construction elevator will probably have to stay there until all the interior work is done? Or are there alternative methods for transporting internal construction supplies?

soulcapn
Sep 6, 2013, 5:36 PM
That is good news. So the temporary construction elevator will probably have to stay there until all the interior work is done? Or are there alternative methods for transporting internal construction supplies?

The Construction Elevators will go as soon as the internal elevator systems can take over all the materials and people transporting.

They removed the entire west side construction elevator several months ago. Also the 2 people cabs on the south side of the east Construction Elevator were removed a few months back. This indicates to me that they already have some elevator capacity inside the core, or that they don't have as many construction workers ascending and descending the tower now.

RockMont
Sep 6, 2013, 6:26 PM
Well that makes sense, thanx.

Traynor
Sep 6, 2013, 8:40 PM
Looks like Spiderman's been swinging on the spire. There's white wire everywhere!

I am given to understand that the Spantenna is so reviled that a group of New York Grannies and Knitters are creating a macramé cover for it.

:P

http://i.imgur.com/A70cPmf.jpg

Hudson11
Sep 6, 2013, 8:53 PM
the cables seem to be a makeshift elevator system, men with balls of steel use it climb the spire in those boxes

franktko
Sep 6, 2013, 9:13 PM
I'm hoping they're preparing something sensational for the lighting of the beacon party in just a few days time! :D :cheers:

ih8pickingusernames
Sep 6, 2013, 9:21 PM
i think in a life after people the last standing skyscraper would be 1wtc and 20s skyscraper(ESB,Chrysler,etc)

Highly doubt that.

NYguy
Sep 6, 2013, 9:27 PM
Daniel J. Grinkevich (http://www.flickr.com/photos/grink/9684864388/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

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QUEENSNYMAN
Sep 6, 2013, 10:43 PM
Nice NYguy thanks for posting some of the best pictures I have seen today, wait I will make some tonight and in da morning hopefully if I am granted time PS they will be from Rockaway.

franktko
Sep 7, 2013, 1:47 AM
http://www.newsday.com/news/new-york/council-on-tall-buildings-weighs-1-wtc-s-height-claim-1.6020500

Council on Tall Buildings weighs 1 WTC's height claim

September 5, 2013
By WILLIAM MURPHY

Developers of 1 World Trade Center, formerly called the Freedom Tower, say that at 1,776 feet it will be the tallest office tower in the Western Hemisphere.

That claim is being considered by the authority of such matters -- the Chicago-based Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat. The group's Height Committee will convene in early November and hopes to make an announcement by Nov. 9, spokesman Daniel Safarik said.


The down side of having the CTBUH vote in favor of the 1,776 height is that the building might end up on this new list, if one is created for the Western Hemisphere:

http://inhabitat.com/report-shows-the-unoccupied-vanity-space-in-the-worlds-tallest-skyscrapers/

http://assets.inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2013/09/CTBUH-Vainest-Skyscrapers-3.jpg

:yuck:

urban_planner
Sep 7, 2013, 1:52 AM
I feel honored, The wide shot with the pink tones in the sky in my shot. Thanks for posting it.

I was in NYC last weekend and Just love the new World Trade Centre. Mind you NYC is just awesome as a whole anyway. You guys who live there are so lucky.

:cheers:

Ray Love

NYCLuver
Sep 7, 2013, 3:57 AM
September 6th, 2013

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bigreach
Sep 7, 2013, 6:49 AM
^^whats the chances it ends up on that list NYGuy?? 50/50?

robby68
Sep 7, 2013, 8:08 AM
On this wednesday the tv show Nova will air a special on the freedom tower and the undergroud museum on PBS.

Traynor
Sep 7, 2013, 1:37 PM
Cool shot from the Top of the Rock last night of the launch of the LADEE Moon probe aboard a Minotaur V rocket, from NASA's Wallops Fight Facility, Wallops Island Virginia.

http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/a3L3o7Rv0cTSc6zv_FEANg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zNDI7cT04NTt3PTUxMg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/News/SPACE.com/Wow%21_NASA%27s_Late-Night_Moon_Launch-2c307358bf896a75b2d3dadcd7c3ce31
(Image from YAHOO News found HERE (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/photos/wow-nasas-night-moon-launch-wows-stargazers-jaw-photo-095654905.html) )

QUEENSNYMAN
Sep 7, 2013, 1:47 PM
Video from this morning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkjMAe2LBYg&feature=youtu.be

weidncol
Sep 7, 2013, 3:17 PM
September 6th, 2013

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee429/dkny622/DSC00414.jpg (http://s1227.photobucket.com/user/dkny622/media/DSC00414.jpg.html)

Wow, that is an amazing picture!

QUEENSNYMAN
Sep 7, 2013, 3:46 PM
Some pictures by me:

Ck out latest pics by me, I tried posting but they did not come out for some reason again.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/

Thaniel
Sep 7, 2013, 5:15 PM
[QUOTE=NYguy;6257715]

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3719/9681676143_4c8afebe94_h.jpg

Wow, that's commanding and beautiful.

gothamite
Sep 7, 2013, 5:23 PM
Washington Square
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Phat Stanley
Sep 7, 2013, 7:05 PM
[QUOTE=NYCLuver;6258120]September 6th, 2013

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Seriously... how hard would it be to skin the rest of that spire with a multifaceted radome that would match the "beacon" section at the top? :shrug: It just looks so... incomplete... as it is. Of course, that's just my opinion. YMMV

I wish I could win the Powerball and then I'd just pay for it my damn self. :tup:

NYguy
Sep 7, 2013, 8:52 PM
^^whats the chances it ends up on that list NYGuy?? 50/50?

It's possible.



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Tectonic
Sep 8, 2013, 12:03 AM
09.06.13

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sterlippo1
Sep 8, 2013, 11:32 AM
is that Fort Jay a few pics above?

Surrealplaces
Sep 9, 2013, 4:04 AM
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Brooklyn Heights Promenade (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bcardieri/9690916750/) by BrielleCardieri (http://www.flickr.com/people/bcardieri/), on Flickr

eleven=11
Sep 9, 2013, 11:54 AM
anybody know what the ropes are for on the spire ??

j-biz
Sep 9, 2013, 12:05 PM
is that Fort Jay a few pics above?

It's Fort Wadsworth on Staten Island, near the base of the Verrazano bridge.

NYguy
Sep 9, 2013, 5:34 PM
( September 8, 2013 )


Some pics and a clip of the Freedom Tower from the harbor as we celebrate the skyline restored...


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Will post more later.

sterlippo1
Sep 9, 2013, 7:14 PM
It's Fort Wadsworth on Staten Island, near the base of the Verrazano bridge.

thanks, I thought it looked a little too west but was not aware of a fort on SI

Roadcruiser1
Sep 9, 2013, 7:35 PM
anybody know what the ropes are for on the spire ??

They are guy wires. It will help give the mast some extra strength against the wind..........

NYGrail
Sep 9, 2013, 8:16 PM
Forgive me if this question has been answered already, but will the top air venting section have any nighttime light whatsoever after this is completed? See my arrow below from RM's gorgeous photo. Will this always be dark or am I missing something? I don't like it if it is to remain dark.

http://i40.tinypic.com/98c9qf.jpg

drumz0rz
Sep 9, 2013, 8:36 PM
To my knowledge it'll remain dark. It would be very interesting if light did shine through the vertical vents (which are for the most part still boarded up right now).

Otie
Sep 9, 2013, 9:56 PM
anybody know what the ropes are for on the spire ??

Folks applying some coating to the unreachable galvanized areas.

Roadcruiser1
Sep 9, 2013, 10:01 PM
Forgive me if this question has been answered already, but will the top air venting section have any nighttime light whatsoever after this is completed? See my arrow below from RM's gorgeous photo. Will this always be dark or am I missing something? I don't like it if it is to remain dark.

http://i40.tinypic.com/98c9qf.jpg

It's going to remain dark. You can look up the renderings. That section just remains dark..........

Oh_ozzie
Sep 9, 2013, 10:59 PM
http://blog.archpaper.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/1WTC_NightViewfromWHotel_Small.jpg

At night one wtc is suppose to look like this. So they do have plans to light up this section but for now its dark

http://blog.archpaper.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/1WTC_NightViewfromWHotel_Small.jpg

Thaniel
Sep 9, 2013, 11:33 PM
I actually enjoy the blue construction lights. I kinda wish they would keep that color after they finish construction.

weidncol
Sep 9, 2013, 11:35 PM
I'm pretty sure, there will be no lights in that section as there really is not a need for them. It's mechanical floors... It will be just like the Twins, except instead of two slim bands, it's one big one.

franktko
Sep 10, 2013, 12:14 AM
And the fact that the tower will not normally be lit 100% (all floors) with the bright blue lights, the dark area won't be as dramatic as now...

Thaniel
Sep 10, 2013, 12:26 AM
And the fact that the tower will not normally be lit 100% (all floors) with the bright blue lights, the dark area won't be as dramatic as now...

Well the lights as I understand it from the renderings after the construction lights are removed won't be blue at all. Also they could end up lighting the entire building at night because the building is a 'green' or 'eco' building meaning something or other blah blah blah no energy wasted to run it?

I have one question though which I've never asked on here. Is there a 13th floor included in this building or is the 104th floor the 105th floor?

Oh_ozzie
Sep 10, 2013, 12:42 AM
I'm pretty sure, there will be no lights in that section as there really is not a need for them. It's mechanical floors... It will be just like the Twins, except instead of two slim bands, it's one big one.

I feel you but the building won't look as attractive, this why I believe the building is going to look like the picture by night ...Its like the Empire State Building not having half it's LED's. You might be right though because in old renderings with the old spire, this section wasn't lit. But that's with the old spire it's completely different now.

weidncol
Sep 10, 2013, 1:15 AM
Well the lights as I understand it from the renderings after the construction lights are removed won't be blue at all. Also they could end up lighting the entire building at night because the building is a 'green' or 'eco' building meaning something or other blah blah blah no energy wasted to run it?

Once the building is completely done and tenants move in etc, it will be lit just like any other office building at night.

Roadcruiser1
Sep 10, 2013, 1:35 AM
Well the lights as I understand it from the renderings after the construction lights are removed won't be blue at all. Also they could end up lighting the entire building at night because the building is a 'green' or 'eco' building meaning something or other blah blah blah no energy wasted to run it?

I have one question though which I've never asked on here. Is there a 13th floor included in this building or is the 104th floor the 105th floor?

There isn't a Floor 13, but there is a Floor 6. However it's mechanical and people probably won't go there..........

NYguy
Sep 10, 2013, 2:04 AM
Continuing photos from ( September 8, 2013 )


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Ninja Man
Sep 10, 2013, 2:26 AM
I hope that they start lighting One World Trade Center in red, white, and blue tomorrow night.

NYguy
Sep 10, 2013, 2:52 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-kamin-tallest-building-0910-20130910,0,3968875.story

Ground zero tower not yet nation's tallest
One World Trade Center's 1,776-foot measure could get trimmed on technicalities

Blair Kamin
September 10, 2013


For years now, it has seemed a foregone conclusion that One World Trade Center, the skyscraper that has arisen on the site of the destroyed twin towers in lower Manhattan, would rise to a symbolic height of 1,776 feet and dethrone Chicago's Willis Tower as the nation's tallest building. But with the 12th anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks approaching Wednesday, new twists in the arcane game of measuring skyscraper height have raised the unlikely — and, for some, unthinkable — possibility that One World Trade Center won't be No. 1 and that Willis would retain the coveted titles of the tallest building in the U.S. and the Western Hemisphere.

The widely recognized arbiter of skyscraper bragging rights, the Chicago-based Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat, will consider in November whether to knock more than 400 feet off One World Trade Center's official height, owing to a technical distinction between spires and antennas.

Such a call would disrupt the carefully calibrated symbolism, envisioned by ground zero master planner Daniel Libeskind, of a tower rising to 1,776 feet — a reference to the year the Continental Congress adopted the Declaration of Independence and an expression of American resolve in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks.

.....Yet even if the council's height committee rules in One World Trade Center's favor, another technicality could upset the tower's appeal to national pride. Four years ago, the council revised its rules to state that a skyscraper's height is measured from the lowest significant, open-air pedestrian entrance to the building's top.

Because One World Trade has a secondary, north-facing entrance that is five feet lower than its main, south-facing entrance, the tower's height in feet could be 1,781. That hardly has the same patriotic ring as 1,776, though it would recognize the year of the decisive Revolutionary War battle at Yorktown.

"The issue is not just about the height of the building. It's about the base of the building," said Antony Wood, the council's executive director.

...."Eliminating this integral part of the building's design and leaving an exposed antenna and equipment is unfortunate," the architect, David Childs of the New York office of Skidmore, Owings & Merrill (SOM), said in a widely disseminated statement. Because the council, a private nonprofit association based at the Illinois Institute of Technology, relies heavily on architects' descriptions of their skyscrapers, Childs' statement appeared to lend credence to the view that One World Trade Center's mast could no longer be considered a spire.

"No one outside our organization has picked up on the subtlety of that," said Wood, the tall building council's executive director. SOM on Monday backed off Childs' earlier statement, saying in an email "there is no doubt in our minds" that the mast atop One World Trade Center qualifies as a spire. But SOM did not explain why the tall buildings council ought to heed its new position, leaving the door open — if only a crack — for the council's height committee to base its decision on Childs' original remarks.

Addressing the issue of the lower secondary entrance, a spokeswoman said SOM's hope is that the design will be grandfathered in because it was unveiled in 2005 — four years before the council made its rule change.

"The 'front door' of (One World Trade Center) — symbolically and practically — is the south entrance," SOM said in its email. "This is the entrance that faces the 9/11 memorial and is, therefore, the most significant entrance to the building from every standpoint."


Ridiculous. An entrance is an entrance. It's not like it's some hidden door out "back".

UrbanImpressionist
Sep 10, 2013, 3:33 AM
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Silverfox
Sep 10, 2013, 4:32 AM
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http://www.urbanimpressionist.com/misc/cityscapepics/NYC/Sept_11.jpg

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This reminds me of the movie Independence Day. ;)

NYguy
Sep 10, 2013, 11:19 AM
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jsr
Sep 10, 2013, 12:41 PM
Hope this doesn't end up sinking the tower's One World Trade Center moniker...

http://www.northjersey.com/news/Christie_administration_condemns_1986_Port_Authority_deal_to_sell_rights_to_World_Trade_Center_name_for_10.html

10023
Sep 10, 2013, 1:01 PM
Ridiculous. An entrance is an entrance. It's not like it's some hidden door out "back".
So basically, they've built it 5 feet too tall but because of the Port Authority cheaping out on the spire design, it might not even matter?

Enigmatism415
Sep 10, 2013, 4:40 PM
"Ground zero tower"? Seriously Chicago? That's an oxymoron.

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The superblock at Church & Vesey has been The World Trade Center since it became a superblock, and I couldn't imagine the complex with any other name. The terrorists only destroyed the site's contents, not the site itself, and now new contents are rising.

NewYorker2009
Sep 10, 2013, 5:20 PM
"Ground zero tower not yet nation's tallest"

What a crock. The height is there just count the damn thing. It's pinnacle is taller than the Willis Tower so technically speaking it's already the nation's tallest. I thought the whole issue would revolve around the whole "antenna" not being an architectural element, therefore, it wouldn't be counted. Now it's because of the North Entrance being lower than El. 311' 2". Such nonsense. The Trump Tower in Chicago was supposed to be 1,362' but ended up being taller because they measured it from the lowest entrance. Certainly the same can be done for this Tower. If they're worried about losing the 1,776' symbolism by the Tower being 1,781' why bother. If they choose not to count it, 1,776' is already out the door. F**k the Chicago Tribune.