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detroitmetro101
Apr 9, 2013, 7:41 PM
hypothetical question; will the continuous development in downtown, one world trade center and the rest, lead to more development in brooklyn and jersey, if it does this development will reshape the harbor, as it already had?

TechTalkGuy
Apr 9, 2013, 8:01 PM
hypothetical question; will the continuous development in downtown, one world trade center and the rest, lead to more development in brooklyn and jersey, if it does this development will reshape the harbor, as it already had?

Jersey City is a suburb of NYC.
How many suburbs have skyscrapers, you may ask?

Jersey City is also closer to Manhattan than Staten Island.
It makes sense to see development across the river.

As for Brooklyn (and let's not forget Queens either), further development would be so awesome.

Imagine having skyscrapers on both sides of the East River stretching for miles.

We won't have the density of Manhattan, but just a few scattered towers is all we need, then we will have a canyon on the river. ;)

Getting back on topic though, One WTC is (honestly) best viewed from either river and Jersey City has the best view, hands down! :)

NewYorque
Apr 9, 2013, 8:10 PM
I was wondering something:

afterall, does the platform-ring has only one purpose ? (that is: to support the dishes)

Or does it have another funtion?

Anyway, I'm happy that this ring is there. It gives a beautiful aspect. And brings the total roof height to 425 meters, even if it's not officially recognized.

I'm happy too that the ring doesn't look like this horrible redesign, with a "skeleton-ring".

1WTC is definitely Lord of the Rings ! :cheers:

NYguy
Apr 9, 2013, 8:36 PM
I would obviously prefer the radone cover, but it is what it is and it doesn't look bad. It looks like most other spires/masts/whateverthehecks in the city, so it fits in.


If by something tall on top of a building, yeah it fits in. When the final crown is placed on top, people will be asking this question for years -
why couldn't the rest of the structure look like the top? Why didn't they finish it?

The top ring, meanwhile, is over 1,400 ft.



Mattron (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattron/8635351020/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

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Benjamin Osborne
Apr 9, 2013, 10:37 PM
What is the building on the right that is under construction in that last picture? How tall is it?

And I don't mean 4 World Trade Center..…

Silverfox
Apr 9, 2013, 10:54 PM
I was wondering something:

afterall, does the platform-ring has only one purpose ? (that is: to support the dishes)

Or does it have another funtion?

Anyway, I'm happy that this ring is there. It gives a beautiful aspect. And brings the total roof height to 425 meters, even if it's not officially recognized.

I'm happy too that the ring doesn't look like this horrible redesign, with a "skeleton-ring".

1WTC is definitely Lord of the Rings ! :cheers:

I'd assume it appears less skeletal due to temporary construction decking.

DURKEY427
Apr 9, 2013, 11:10 PM
And I don't mean 4 World Trade Center..…

99 washington street (holiday inn)

Roadcruiser1
Apr 9, 2013, 11:15 PM
Welcome back Dominator, (wondering where you been,) now to clear up the observation deck question? There will be 2 decks? one that is 2 floors high, the one's just above the maintainance grooves and 1 perhaps 10 floors higher? That's what I'm getting out of the responses...:shrug: And for photo 30887 NYC4life's photo, is that the last ring that's partial, or is there another 1 going on top of that one??, I thought that was the 3rd and last, but his render says 2nd of 3 rings,,?? Just wondering if thats the top ring or not?

Three decks. Floors 100, 101, and 102. 102 is the highest one.

unfrostedpoptart
Apr 10, 2013, 12:18 AM
on-topic, I could see the top 15 floors + antenna of WTC1 from the corner about 30 yards down from my sister's front door.

YankeesfaninUT
Apr 10, 2013, 1:40 AM
I was wondering something:

afterall, does the platform-ring has only one purpose ? (that is: to support the dishes)

Or does it have another funtion?

Anyway, I'm happy that this ring is there. It gives a beautiful aspect. And brings the total roof height to 425 meters, even if it's not officially recognized.

I'm happy too that the ring doesn't look like this horrible redesign, with a "skeleton-ring".

1WTC is definitely Lord of the Rings ! :cheers:


The communication rings will serve three purposes. One is obviously to support the communication dishes and antennas. The lower ring will also contain the tracks for the window washing units. And I do believe the cable stays for the spire will attach to this ring also.

DURKEY427
Apr 10, 2013, 1:30 PM
If you type in the millenium stadium in cardiff on google the highrise next to it has a similar spire/ring system as the one on one wtc

StoOgE
Apr 10, 2013, 3:13 PM
If you type in the millenium stadium in cardiff on google the highrise next to it has a similar spire/ring system as the one on one wtc

Looks more like the Alamo Dome to me.

MadGnome
Apr 10, 2013, 3:21 PM
The communication rings will serve three purposes. One is obviously to support the communication dishes and antennas. The lower ring will also contain the tracks for the window washing units. And I do believe the cable stays for the spire will attach to this ring also.

Yep. The guys will attach to the base of the ring. The ring will distribute the cable load without need special sub roof structure just for the guys.

NewYorque
Apr 10, 2013, 3:49 PM
I'd assume it appears less skeletal due to temporary construction decking.

Ouch... you're serious ?
Are they going to remove the gratings currently on the ring ???

Hell, then that's really too bad.

Design-mind
Apr 10, 2013, 4:01 PM
Removing all that grating on the rings would be a waste. Those look like they are custom fitted. Where will the workers stand when working on the different pieces of equipment going up on the ring?:shrug:

From ironmike40 on Instagram

http://distilleryimage0.s3.amazonaws.com/80154a509cc711e2bb8a22000a1f97fc_7.jpg

DURKEY427
Apr 10, 2013, 4:55 PM
Looks more like the Alamo Dome to me.

I just saw it about an hour ago one wtc was the first thing that came to mind when i saw the spire on the tower (the building next door to the stadium)

bigreach
Apr 10, 2013, 5:01 PM
Three decks. Floors 100, 101, and 102. 102 is the highest one.

Road cruiser, do you know if that is the final ring,, on those last renders or will there be another,, because the way I'm seeing it that's #3, the 1 that's very partially completed like 1/16 of the circle.. Simple ? is that the 2nd or (top) last ring???:shrug: Photo30887 to be exact; and NYGuys, 1 of his pics just before,so 30886, he's got a shot of the rings and it's apparent there's 3 there? but I'm confused because that photo says second of 3 rings????, these photos are on previous page.

pnapp1
Apr 10, 2013, 6:00 PM
There are 3 ring sections total. Ring 1 is done. Rings 2 and 3 are only partially built and are most visible on the south side of the building. That is the final ring.


Ouch... you're serious ?
Are they going to remove the gratings currently on the ring ???

Hell, then that's really too bad.

The grating is permanent. I think he is referring to the temporary construction platform.

NYguy
Apr 10, 2013, 6:50 PM
Davegkugler (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davegkugler/8638290660/sizes/h/in/photostream/)

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Sunset High School NYC 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sunset_high_school_nyc_2013/8635920409/sizes/h/in/photostream/)

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hunser
Apr 10, 2013, 7:42 PM
WTC progress (https://www.facebook.com/wtcprogress)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/534803_455573474519896_1405938987_n.jpg


Beacon light for One WTC spire
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/551285_455209454556298_698321548_n.jpg

Wheelingman04
Apr 10, 2013, 8:44 PM
Wow that tower has turned out amazing!!

NYguy
Apr 10, 2013, 9:37 PM
The Brenneckers (http://www.flickr.com/photos/94826331@N06/8635826928/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8397/8635826928_ebe893800f_b.jpg



Craig Mahoney Photography (http://www.flickr.com/photos/53295101@N06/8636270842/sizes/h/in/photostream/)

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Chibears85
Apr 10, 2013, 9:40 PM
To think in a few months it will look like this:
http://i.imgur.com/fle58a6.jpg

PZelda
Apr 10, 2013, 11:08 PM
Man, 7 WTC is such a dwarf next to 1 WTC in the last pic in NYGuy's post. 4 WTC is looking great also! I can't wait to see this view again soon :)

george
Apr 11, 2013, 12:04 AM
Love the glass on the base, it's a nice contrast to the glass above. The installed base glass has such a lightweight, shimmery, fragile appearance which masks and belies the massively fortified blast walls just behind that thin veil.

Nexis4Jersey
Apr 11, 2013, 3:37 AM
My World Trade Center photos from Harrison,NJ...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8117/8639471168_9fae6383ba_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/8639471168/)
105 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/8639471168/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8533/8639471162_796c5263bf_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/8639471162/)
106 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/8639471162/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

World Trade Center seen from Secaucus JCT Lower Level....

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8404/8638368453_228d09cb62_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/8638368453/)
138 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/8638368453/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8106/8638368423_4f26432f44_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/8638368423/)
141 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/8638368423/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

World Trade Center seen from Secaucus JCT Upper Level....


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8261/8639471044_0a93404e82_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/8639471044/)
116 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/8639471044/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

ATLksuGUY
Apr 11, 2013, 10:32 AM
I hate to say it, but the industrial look of the rings and mast are really starting to grow on me. I think our judgment should be reserved until we see its final form. The base is meh, I'd like to see the so called fins. I do think as we near completion that the tower is taking on a new presence as the mast and base are coming to fruition at the same time , and it is hard to honestly bear judgment until this tower is complete. Its presence seems to change rapidly as these elements are completed.

That picture of that guy standing on the mast with his arms up, could become historic much like the one from the original WTC with the guy "mooning" the camera from somewhere close to the top during construction. Anyone have that pic?

NYguy
Apr 11, 2013, 11:21 AM
The ring itself was always meant to be a somewhat "prominent" feature of the tower, or the crown so-to-speak. I really feel it could be considered
an architectural feature of the building. The antenna mast, on the other hand, is something completely different. When all is said and done,
it comes into question - if I place a bike on top of a house, does the entire thing become a bike? As nice as the top of the antenna is,
does it save the rest of the structure? Those questions will be answered.


http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2013/04/03/business/web_photos/03.1f038.lois1--300x450.jpg http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/149513252/original.jpg




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StrongIsland
Apr 11, 2013, 3:14 PM
Piece #12 (or 13?) is in!:)

hunser
Apr 11, 2013, 3:42 PM
jayk7 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jayk7/)

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Skyguy_7
Apr 11, 2013, 3:47 PM
^ Are you fn kidding me? That photo is incredible! :slob:

Skyguy_7
Apr 11, 2013, 3:54 PM
Spiretenna action! :yes:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-I5-QIUCCxmY/UWbb-6wK1-I/AAAAAAAAAGk/1UJ_dnEV8SE/w658-h364-p-o/NYC239.png

hunser
Apr 11, 2013, 4:55 PM
^ Yep and yep! :D 1568' now.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8543/8640761178_6290ae0cb2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8640761178/)
IMG_2000 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8640761178/) von drken10003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28030045@N06/) auf Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8533/8640766510_066f58cdcf_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8640766510/)
IMG_2005 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8640766510/) von drken10003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28030045@N06/) auf Flickr

hunser
Apr 11, 2013, 5:14 PM
According to spectre000:
That's piece #12 of the mast, height is now 1,586 feet
Five to go. Here they are, and their heights.

13: 1,626'
14: 1,666'
15: 1,706'
16: 1,746'
17: 1,776'

shivtim
Apr 11, 2013, 5:15 PM
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/891879_10100798395510847_279842572_o.jpg

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sw5710
Apr 11, 2013, 5:21 PM
[QUOTE=NYguy;6086581]The ring itself was always meant to be a somewhat "prominent" feature of the tower, or the crown so-to-speak. I really feel it could be considered
an architectural feature of the building. The antenna mast, on the other hand, is something completely different. When all is said and done,
it comes into question - if I place a bike on top of a house, does the entire thing become a bike? As nice as the top of the antenna is,
does it save the rest of the structure? Those questions will be answer.

NYguy I have questions for you.
Is this mast and ring just mounted to the roof like others we see on buildings. The ring is 140' or 150' in diameter. Is that the prominent factor on counting it into height. Not how it is mounted into the building.

PZelda
Apr 11, 2013, 5:37 PM
The cladding of the vertical gap on the west side is looking great! At this rate, the gap should be completely gone by the time I visit in four weeks, and then the only gap left will be where the east side elevator currently is. I'm going to have to try to make it back to Hoboken or Jersey City on this visit to see this view again :)

StrongIsland
Apr 11, 2013, 5:40 PM
Piece #13 is now in!! It's getting taller:D

sw5710
Apr 11, 2013, 5:51 PM
1586' now

jmatero
Apr 11, 2013, 5:56 PM
And now 14 is up.... Full Speed Ahead!!!!!

http://archives.earthcam.com/archives5/ecnetwork/us/ny/nyc/gzmpr/gzmpr288_8.jpg

QUEENSNYMAN
Apr 11, 2013, 6:11 PM
Great progress on the mast, this is a great day! So when can we see more pieces go up?

"Wow" number 14!

sw5710
Apr 11, 2013, 6:48 PM
# 13 = 1,626'
# 14 = 1,666'
# 15 = 1,706'

laser110
Apr 11, 2013, 7:05 PM
I hate to say it, but the industrial look of the rings and mast are really starting to grow on me. I think our judgment should be reserved until we see its final form. The base is meh, I'd like to see the so called fins. I do think as we near completion that the tower is taking on a new presence as the mast and base are coming to fruition at the same time , and it is hard to honestly bear judgment until this tower is complete. Its presence seems to change rapidly as these elements are completed.

That picture of that guy standing on the mast with his arms up, could become historic much like the one from the original WTC with the guy "mooning" the camera from somewhere close to the top during construction. Anyone have that pic?

I have been saying this all along. Let's wait till it's finished before we make judgements.

Scott

deepen915
Apr 11, 2013, 7:18 PM
So has piece 15 gone up? What's the latest? This is great to see!

TechTalkGuy
Apr 11, 2013, 7:21 PM
:previous: I am 99.999% sure that I am going to "like" this tower. ;)

deepen915
Apr 11, 2013, 7:25 PM
# 13 = 1,626'
# 14 = 1,666'
# 15 = 1,706'

so 15 is up? I can't tell from Earthcam..

sw5710
Apr 11, 2013, 7:48 PM
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8252/8564103726_cf4a7441cb_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmadflyer/8564103726/)
Spire beam far (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmadflyer/8564103726/) by PMadFlyer (http://www.flickr.com/people/pmadflyer/), on Flickr

This might help.

alex4apple
Apr 11, 2013, 7:50 PM
Only 3 more pieces until the spire/mast reaches it's full height! I can't wait!:cheers:

NYC4Life
Apr 11, 2013, 8:24 PM
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/564345_455935377817039_1570039278_n.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=455935377817039&set=a.133475800063000.32624.109423129134934&type=1&theater

hunser
Apr 11, 2013, 8:28 PM
So far we are up to piece #13 (1626'):

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8519/8640227929_803f5a6954_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8640227929/)
1 WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8640227929/) by drken10003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28030045@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8404/8641341144_9123b7ec42_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8641341144/)
1 WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8641341144/) by drken10003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28030045@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8109/8641346810_79a75e75ec_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8641346810/)
1 WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8641346810/) by drken10003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28030045@N06/), on Flickr

Chibears85
Apr 11, 2013, 9:38 PM
We are at 1626 feet right now.

deepen915
Apr 11, 2013, 10:29 PM
I made a comparison picture using the above earthcam picture and spire diagram to see the current progress :) Also, I feel like the diagram is wrong for the first four pieces, it doesn't look to scale, even though I matched up the current piece that is installed.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8265/8640597285_491de00f20_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/10118053@N02/8640597285/)
Spire comparison1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/10118053@N02/8640597285/) by deepen03 (http://www.flickr.com/people/10118053@N02/), on Flickr

RobEss
Apr 11, 2013, 10:47 PM
I made a comparison picture using the above earthcam picture and spire diagram to see the current progress :) Also, I feel like the diagram is wrong for the first four pieces, it doesn't look to scale, even though I matched up the current piece that is installed.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8265/8640597285_491de00f20_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/10118053@N02/8640597285/)
Spire comparison1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/10118053@N02/8640597285/) by deepen03 (http://www.flickr.com/people/10118053@N02/), on Flickr

The diagram is right, the photograph is simply hiding most of the masts lower bulk due to shifts in perspective and the surrounding parapet.

JayPro
Apr 11, 2013, 11:10 PM
That top piece is indeed all that's left to be installed; and then the guying....

Yankee fan for life
Apr 12, 2013, 12:24 AM
That top piece is indeed all that's left to be installed; and then the guying....

No only sections 12# and 13# where put up there still 4 more sections to go.

deepen915
Apr 12, 2013, 12:39 AM
The diagram is right, the photograph is simply hiding most of the masts lower bulk due to shifts in perspective and the surrounding parapet.

look at the gap between that first "crown" piece (5th piece up) to the next, I guess the scaling is a little bit off but just a little thing I noticed.

MadGnome
Apr 12, 2013, 1:31 AM
Anybody ever figure out why section 16 is missing in that diagram?
14 is the one that just went up. the top is 18.

Yankee fan for life
Apr 12, 2013, 1:38 AM
Anybody ever figure out why section 16 is missing in that diagram?
14 is the one that just went up. the top is 18.

Repeat only sections 12# and 13# have been put up their is no section 18# just 17#

deepen915
Apr 12, 2013, 2:21 AM
Repeat only sections 12# and 13# have been put up their is no section 18# just 17#

Yeah the beacon has 3pieces.. Makes sense. So next is 14, then there is "three"
left of spire pieces.

jd3189
Apr 12, 2013, 2:44 AM
I predict this tower to be full pinnacle height by the end of this month.

bigreach
Apr 12, 2013, 2:44 AM
And now 14 is up.... Full Speed Ahead!!!!!

http://archives.earthcam.com/archives5/ecnetwork/us/ny/nyc/gzmpr/gzmpr288_8.jpg

Seriously #14 has now been erected??? That leaves what 3 or 4? Mother Nature musta been on her best behavior today:tup:

Traynor
Apr 12, 2013, 2:46 AM
Trying to get an idea of what this will look like once the temporary platforms running up the mast are gone and more of the rings are in. Take off the orange safety railings and they will look kind of thin. Needs microwave dishes to finish the look.

You would think they could mock up some fiberglass ones as place-fillers until they sell the transmission rights to people. Unfortunately they will look fairly sparse until then. And as for the bare mast...:shrug:

http://i.imgur.com/Eutsug9.jpg

bigreach
Apr 12, 2013, 3:01 AM
This might help.

That's all that's left? 4 pieces.. Does anybody know the page where, the one forumer (several pgs back, I can't find it, but it was damn good),, had it broke down spire piece, and the tonnage of each"? Gonna be sorta sad, we had to wait months, then bang, bang, bang,, there 3 pieces are DONE in 1 day.. With very little break for the final 1/3, of the spire,,so next piece takes us to 1606" #14 will the next piece be 14 or 15? (someone said there is no 17?)?? unless they count that as the long beam that supports the beacon? quite impressive,, so maybe a few more nice days and they can go to the rocket.. I have a feeling they'll wait on those last 2 just for press coverage,, because those last 2 represent, what? a 1/4 of the mast, antennae or spire... I just think they'll hold off till they get more publicity.. Anybody else think they may try to get a new "topping out" ceremony when the last and coolest piece is erected.. Can't remember the forumer who had that diagram but it was perfect,, For some reason ChiBears or Kanto come to mind.. Kanto could you diagram it is NOW at spire piece 14 or 13 whichever, last piece erected,,.. Whatever it is, it's exciting.. I'm loving it and I'm sure everybody else is who has been following this baby for a long time... Does anybody believe they'll have a topping out ceremony with the Beacon since there really never was 1 like they did with 4wtc? Somebody just informed me the spire diagram,, which is amazing was made by PMad, or OTIE,, although I coukld have swore it was someone else,,, On a different note I remember following this tower, roughly 2-3 yrs ago, and it looked like 8 Spruce street was the tallest Downtown,, now it looks like just an average downtown scraper,, with 1 and 4 WTC,, although it's a good 100ft taller(8 spruce) than any bldg in my closest major city...

dennis1
Apr 12, 2013, 3:46 AM
Is this place going to have a mall inside like the old WTC?

Roadcruiser1
Apr 12, 2013, 4:29 AM
Is this place going to have a mall inside like the old WTC?

Yes it will.

bigreach
Apr 12, 2013, 4:55 AM
Yes it will.

Perhaps you know RCruiser what are the "big, what looks like Garage doors" in the middle of the base cladding,, Seems way too big for Entrances, and will they be cladded differently,, different glass, or are they not entrances at all? Or if they are entrances, is a different material going to be used to bring them down to normal sized entrances, perhaps clear windows,, looking for your expertise on this 1. :shrug:

MadGnome
Apr 12, 2013, 11:49 AM
Repeat only sections 12# and 13# have been put up their is no section 18# just 17#
From IrishInNYC
http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16952

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16952

QUEENSNYMAN
Apr 12, 2013, 12:49 PM
Weekend is supposed to very nice, do you think more of the Mast will be erected?

hunser
Apr 12, 2013, 12:51 PM
Supremecourtjester (http://www.flickr.com/photos/supremecourtjester/)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8380/8640725234_2a8d2cc543_h.jpg

NYguy
Apr 12, 2013, 2:52 PM
NilsPix (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nilspix/8641964246/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8116/8641964246_509761489b_b.jpg



Mitch Waxman (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mitchwaxman/8641815994/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8241/8641815994_d1fefda163_b.jpg



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johnsarelli (http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnsarelli/8640283971/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8384/8640283971_ef4a27457d_b.jpg



Robert Wash (http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertwash/8641446324/sizes/h/in/photostream/)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8403/8641446324_4d333a8f12_h.jpg



RedKen (http://www.flickr.com/photos/redken/8640584471/sizes/h/in/photostream/)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8124/8640584471_0d7c1273a2_h.jpg

deepen915
Apr 12, 2013, 5:36 PM
That's all that's left? 4 pieces.. Does anybody know the page where, the one forumer (several pgs back, I can't find it, but it was damn good),, had it broke down spire piece, and the tonnage of each"? Gonna be sorta sad, we had to wait months, then bang, bang, bang,, there 3 pieces are DONE in 1 day.. With very little break for the final 1/3, of the spire,,so next piece takes us to 1606" #14 will the next piece be 14 or 15? (someone said there is no 17?)?? unless they count that as the long beam that supports the beacon? quite impressive,, so maybe a few more nice days and they can go to the rocket.. I have a feeling they'll wait on those last 2 just for press coverage,, because those last 2 represent, what? a 1/4 of the mast, antennae or spire... I just think they'll hold off till they get more publicity.. Anybody else think they may try to get a new "topping out" ceremony when the last and coolest piece is erected.. Can't remember the forumer who had that diagram but it was perfect,, For some reason ChiBears or Kanto come to mind.. Kanto could you diagram it is NOW at spire piece 14 or 13 whichever, last piece erected,,.. Whatever it is, it's exciting.. I'm loving it and I'm sure everybody else is who has been following this baby for a long time... Does anybody believe they'll have a topping out ceremony with the Beacon since there really never was 1 like they did with 4wtc? Somebody just informed me the spire diagram,, which is amazing was made by PMad, or OTIE,, although I coukld have swore it was someone else,,, On a different note I remember following this tower, roughly 2-3 yrs ago, and it looked like 8 Spruce street was the tallest Downtown,, now it looks like just an average downtown scraper,, with 1 and 4 WTC,, although it's a good 100ft taller(8 spruce) than any bldg in my closest major city...

here you go :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BG9NaWtCQAEhFzi.jpg:large

hunser
Apr 12, 2013, 5:51 PM
Keith Michael NYC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/keithmichaelnyc/)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8242/8626935824_16148508a2_h.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8394/8641105667_ab1c77a424_h.jpg

NYguy
Apr 12, 2013, 5:56 PM
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MadGnome
Apr 12, 2013, 7:13 PM
It looks like they've already assembled 317 and 318. That will let them raise the final piece with a shorter crane since the CG will be lower for the combo than for the top piece.
http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2013/04/03/1_wtc_gets_ready_to_be_topped_by_a_big_blinking_beacon.php

NewYorkDominates
Apr 12, 2013, 7:37 PM
Base cladding is pretty disappointing so far... hopefully though, everything or at the very minimal, something will drift me away from the disappointment.


citibehr
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8243/8642277416_27bd82570c_h.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24898087@N06/

Tectonic
Apr 12, 2013, 8:27 PM
Love that last shot.

PMadFlyer
Apr 12, 2013, 9:18 PM
The diagram is right, the photograph is simply hiding most of the masts lower bulk due to shifts in perspective and the surrounding parapet.

Actually, I didn't know the exact diameters of the pieces and I may be off by a foot or two on the bottom sections giving the cone shaped bit a stretched out look, but the heights are accurate to within an inch.

TouchTheSky13
Apr 12, 2013, 9:38 PM
Everyone needs to quit bitching about the base cladding. It will look a lot different after they pop out the fins. It will give it a more dynamic, aesthetically pleasing look. Everyone should reserve their final judgement until after it is finished. The same goes for the mast.

NYguy
Apr 12, 2013, 10:34 PM
Everyone needs to quit bitching about the base cladding.

I say everyone stop bitchin about what everyone is bitchin about. If people don't like what they see so far, they have a right to say it. And frankly its not looking good for the base. As far as the mast goes, I don't know how much more you want to see, but its nearly topping out. I think we have an idea of what it looks like. Don't expect a dramatic change. You either like it or you don't at this point. And like everything else on the building, its open for discussion.



PittCaleb (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pittcaleb/8643371138/sizes/h/in/photostream/)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8112/8643371138_95725c55ed_h.jpg

GarCastle
Apr 12, 2013, 11:02 PM
I say everyone stop bitchin about what everyone is bitchin about. If people don't like what they see so far, they have a right to say it.

I'll wait until I see it before I judge it, even then no one probably wants to read me bitch. So since I won't bitch later and I have the right to bitch, I think I'll bitch about NYguy's bitching that people should stop bitching about other people bitching.

If the first person is free to bitch, then the second person is free to bitch about the first person, and so on. This is after all the Freedom Tower, not the Censorship Tower. Please feel free to bitch about this.

Cheers,
G.

bigreach
Apr 12, 2013, 11:56 PM
here you go :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BG9NaWtCQAEhFzi.jpg:large

Thank you, you made the diagram? Great job,, so just to be certain block 314 has now been erected? correct? So correct me if I'm wrong there should be "5" more pieces,, 315, 316, 317, 318 and 319.. What is confusing for as hell is, I read Yankee fan for lifes post, says there is no 318 or 319 and 317 is the top... See how it's so easy to get confused?? I don't know what's what anymore, unless they renamed the pieces of your spire sections..:shrug: Does anybody Know how many pieces are left for sure??? I tend to think you're right but then there's all these other opinions, I sounds selfish.. But I would love to see the FACTS. And I'm using your diagram as wallpaper for awhile so not to be confused, thank you for re-posting

jmatero
Apr 13, 2013, 1:31 AM
There is no 319... and 317+318 (The beacon) are joined already on the ground.

314 is up. That leaves 315, 316, and the combined 317/318.

Thank you, you made the diagram? Great job,, so just to be certain block 314 has now been erected? correct? So correct me if I'm wrong there should be "5" more pieces,, 315, 316, 317, 318 and 319.. What is confusing for as hell is, I read Yankee fan for lifes post, says there is no 318 or 319 and 317 is the top... See how it's so easy to get confused?? I don't know what's what anymore, unless they renamed the pieces of your spire sections..:shrug: Does anybody Know how many pieces are left for sure??? I tend to think you're right but then there's all these other opinions, I sounds selfish.. But I would love to see the FACTS. And I'm using your diagram as wallpaper for awhile so not to be confused, thank you for re-posting

TechTalkGuy
Apr 13, 2013, 3:10 AM
Imagine having to stand on those narrow little platforms to line up and connect each section together.

I look forward to seeing the final appearance after those narrow platforms are removed.

Guiltyspark
Apr 13, 2013, 6:20 AM
Imagine having to stand on those narrow little platforms to line up and connect each section together.

I look forward to seeing the final appearance after those narrow platforms are removed.

My understanding is that the platforms are not being removed. The platforms are there to support the structure of the radome, which was removed; but because it was simply deleted and not redesigned, the platforms remain. But I am interested to hear from someone with more knowledge than me.

Guiltyspark
Apr 13, 2013, 6:30 AM
The base looks ok. I do not believe it looks as good as it would have with the original design, but it is what it is. Not horrible, not great. Average for a supertall base. The spire was cost engineered. Simple as that. We have the skeleton of what was supposed to be.

OptimumPx
Apr 13, 2013, 11:36 AM
My understanding is that the platforms are not being removed. The platforms are there to support the structure of the radome, which was removed; but because it was simply deleted and not redesigned, the platforms remain. But I am interested to hear from someone with more knowledge than me.

He was referring to the extra platforms that appear between each section...not the permanent ones that appear on deepen915's diagram.

QUEENSNYMAN
Apr 13, 2013, 4:37 PM
One short video from today another video to follow plus pictures.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8bZc9WWRbo

jmatero
Apr 13, 2013, 4:57 PM
315 just went up!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8386/8646048766_a237f32373_b.jpg

alan88
Apr 13, 2013, 5:17 PM
There is no 319... and 317+318 (The beacon) are joined already on the ground.

314 is up. That leaves 315, 316, and the combined 317/318.

Correct

Viciousial
Apr 13, 2013, 5:19 PM
Loving the progress on the spire in the last week!! Lets pray that the wind stays minimal!!!!

laser110
Apr 13, 2013, 5:27 PM
315 just went up!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8386/8646048766_a237f32373_b.jpg

Which webcam are you using? link?

Scott

hunser
Apr 13, 2013, 5:55 PM
^ It's from Ken aka flickr user drken10003.
Next time please provide the source, thanks.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8248/8646044566_7dec281da8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8646044566/)
1 WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8646044566/) by drken10003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28030045@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8386/8646048766_a237f32373_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8646048766/)
1 WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8646048766/) by drken10003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28030045@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8384/8646057994_99c56b1914_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8646057994/)
1 WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8646057994/) by drken10003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28030045@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8533/8646068558_e88df4c3b1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8646068558/)
1 WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8646068558/) by drken10003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28030045@N06/), on Flickr

hunser
Apr 13, 2013, 6:20 PM
Nice comparison (thanks to NYCrulz for finding it):


Christoph S. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/christophspiegel/page1/)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8529/8644580861_df8e3482e3_k.jpg

QUEENSNYMAN
Apr 13, 2013, 6:35 PM
Great updates everyone here is 1 more v ideo from today, will post pics later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07nZIYF6ZsE

Silverfox
Apr 13, 2013, 7:08 PM
Great progress this week. We're on the home stretch now. :tup:

Viciousial
Apr 13, 2013, 7:08 PM
Thanks for the update QueensNyMan! The zoom on that camera is incredible!!!!:worship:

QUEENSNYMAN
Apr 13, 2013, 8:30 PM
Here are some pictures from today:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8242/8645554587_7f2ee144b0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8645554587/)
DSC00132 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8645554587/) by NYMAN2010 (http://www.flickr.com/people/51949497@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8521/8645554969_578998f557_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8645554969/)
DSC00131 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8645554969/) by NYMAN2010 (http://www.flickr.com/people/51949497@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8266/8645555355_e0645b9822_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8645555355/)
DSC00130 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8645555355/) by NYMAN2010 (http://www.flickr.com/people/51949497@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8256/8645555923_de27f1212a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8645555923/)
DSC00129 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8645555923/) by NYMAN2010 (http://www.flickr.com/people/51949497@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8122/8646654388_e05690b188_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8646654388/)
DSC00128 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8646654388/) by NYMAN2010 (http://www.flickr.com/people/51949497@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8398/8646654774_5681b45607_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8646654774/)
DSC00125 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8646654774/) by NYMAN2010 (http://www.flickr.com/people/51949497@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8393/8646655226_5780d54531_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8646655226/)
DSC00124 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8646655226/) by NYMAN2010 (http://www.flickr.com/people/51949497@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8126/8646656096_ded6ca4fc5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8646656096/)
DSC00122 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8646656096/) by NYMAN2010 (http://www.flickr.com/people/51949497@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8396/8646657210_e25b5212f9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8646657210/)
DSC00118 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8646657210/) by NYMAN2010 (http://www.flickr.com/people/51949497@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8106/8646657564_8c95369dce_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8646657564/)
DSC00116 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8646657564/) by NYMAN2010 (http://www.flickr.com/people/51949497@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8239/8646659418_7a0ee8490a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8646659418/)
DSC00110 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8646659418/) by NYMAN2010 (http://www.flickr.com/people/51949497@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8265/8646659656_f47b553a6a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8646659656/)
DSC00105 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8646659656/) by NYMAN2010 (http://www.flickr.com/people/51949497@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8402/8645562021_d000127402_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8645562021/)
DSC00104 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8645562021/) by NYMAN2010 (http://www.flickr.com/people/51949497@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8120/8646661976_5496536f71_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8646661976/)
DSC00098 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/8646661976/) by NYMAN2010 (http://www.flickr.com/people/51949497@N08/), on Flickr

TouchTheSky13
Apr 13, 2013, 8:58 PM
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8248/8646044566_7dec281da8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8646044566/)
1 WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8646044566/) by drken10003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28030045@N06/), on Flickr

Is that a photo of the next piece being lifted into place, or being set down to be installed at a later date? This is exciting! Looks like we'll be done in a matter of weeks if not sooner!

Roadcruiser1
Apr 13, 2013, 9:41 PM
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8248/8646044566_7dec281da8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8646044566/)
1 WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8646044566/) by drken10003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28030045@N06/), on Flickr

Is that a photo of the next piece being lifted into place, or being set down to be installed at a later date? This is exciting! Looks like we'll be done in a matter of weeks if not sooner!

It was installed. Look at the pictures above you and you will see it up there.

alan88
Apr 13, 2013, 9:43 PM
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8248/8646044566_7dec281da8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8646044566/)
1 WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8646044566/) by drken10003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28030045@N06/), on Flickr

Is that a photo of the next piece being lifted into place, or being set down to be installed at a later date? This is exciting! Looks like we'll be done in a matter of weeks if not sooner!



section 316 was picked to the doghouse level today, 315 on the ground may go up on top of spire on Monday if weather cooperates. Section 316 arrived on site today, so all the sections are on site now.