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unfrostedpoptart
Mar 31, 2013, 4:34 PM
Hi all! I've been a lurker here for a long time. I'm originally from NYC (Bronx, Queens, & Manhattan) but have lived in SoCal for over 20 years now. I'm back in NYC for the first time in over 5 years. Last time, the WTC was just the beginnings of the foundation work. In the last few days, my wife and I have been by the site several times connecting from Path to Subway and also went to the Memorial on Friday. We could even see it from my sister's house in Jersey City.

We were very impressed by the site - especially the pools. WTC 1 looks great up close. I do have to say that I'm still not digging updated the glass/design of the base. Looks like some '60s "modern" apartment building. Oh well - everything else looks great. Also checked out 8 Spruce Street (would love to see the insides of those apartments!) and One57. Both are great. Haven't checked out 432 Park (Drake Hotel) yet.

Just so much amazing architecture here!

Here's a few pics I took that I hope folks will enjoy. I'll post of other buildings in their forums.

https://ws.cubby.com/view/0/188278/0/ny_spring_2013/photos/WTC/DSC00359.JPG/255572316

From my sister's house in Jersey City:

https://ws.cubby.com/view/0/188278/0/ny_spring_2013/photos/WTC/DSC00357.JPG/255573549

The antenna. Looks cool on its own - just not there...

https://ws.cubby.com/view/0/188278/0/ny_spring_2013/photos/Friday%20-%20Water%20Taxi%2C%20WTC%2C%20etc/DSC00504.JPG/258407976

https://ws.cubby.com/view/0/188278/0/ny_spring_2013/photos/Friday%20-%20Water%20Taxi%2C%20WTC%2C%20etc/DSC00505.JPG/258410010

https://ws.cubby.com/view/0/188278/0/ny_spring_2013/photos/Friday%20-%20Water%20Taxi%2C%20WTC%2C%20etc/DSC00512.JPG/258413354

Base cladding almost done!

https://ws.cubby.com/view/0/188278/0/ny_spring_2013/photos/Friday%20-%20Water%20Taxi%2C%20WTC%2C%20etc/DSC00517.JPG/258425086

Close-ups of base

https://ws.cubby.com/view/0/188278/0/ny_spring_2013/photos/Friday%20-%20Water%20Taxi%2C%20WTC%2C%20etc/DSC00533.JPG/258410860

https://ws.cubby.com/view/0/188278/0/ny_spring_2013/photos/Friday%20-%20Water%20Taxi%2C%20WTC%2C%20etc/DSC00536.JPG/258403021

One pane one the ground:

https://ws.cubby.com/view/0/188278/0/ny_spring_2013/photos/Friday%20-%20Water%20Taxi%2C%20WTC%2C%20etc/DSC00542.JPG/258405760

https://ws.cubby.com/view/0/188278/0/ny_spring_2013/photos/Friday%20-%20Water%20Taxi%2C%20WTC%2C%20etc/DSC00543.JPG/258399093





https://ws.cubby.com/view/0/188278/0/ny_spring_2013/photos/Friday%20-%20Water%20Taxi%2C%20WTC%2C%20etc/DSC00531.JPG/258417534

https://ws.cubby.com/view/0/188278/0/ny_spring_2013/photos/Friday%20-%20Water%20Taxi%2C%20WTC%2C%20etc/DSC00546.JPG/258414383

Thaniel
Mar 31, 2013, 5:29 PM
Updated
http://i.imgur.com/ga1CiQ2.png

Thanks for making this graphic! (and updating it)

Edit: Also thanks for putting the height to the top of the current mast section!

Thaniel
Mar 31, 2013, 6:53 PM
Few of the better pics I got:

March 18:

http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557787/img/Anonymous/ny21.jpg

Last section of the first comm ring being installed:
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557792/img/Anonymous/ny22.jpg

http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557794/img/Anonymous/ny33.jpg

One of the weird windows:
http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557796/img/Anonymous/ny34.jpg

Base squaring being finished on the northeast corner:
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557802/img/Anonymous/ny37.jpg

http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557805/img/Anonymous/ny38.jpg

Podium window holders being installed along the northwest corner:
http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557811/img/Anonymous/ny43.jpg

http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557814/img/Anonymous/ny45.jpg

Another weird window:
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557817/img/Anonymous/ny46.jpg

View of One WTC from the WFC Winter Garden:
http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557821/img/Anonymous/ny51.jpg

http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557824/img/Anonymous/ny55.jpg

http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557825/img/Anonymous/ny61.jpg

Reflection of One in Four:
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557830/img/Anonymous/ny69.jpg

http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557839/img/Anonymous/ny74.jpg

Three WTC podium in front of One:
http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557843/img/Anonymous/ny92.jpg

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557993/img/Anonymous/wtc.jpg

March 19:

http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557847/img/Anonymous/ny184.jpg

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557853/img/Anonymous/ny187.jpg

March 20:

A couple pictures from the 102nd floor of Empire:
http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557856/img/Anonymous/ny224.jpg

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557868/img/Anonymous/ny246.jpg

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557893/img/Anonymous/ny292.jpg

http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557904/img/Anonymous/ny295.jpg

http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557912/img/Anonymous/ny300.jpg

March 23:

If you compare these two to the Mar 18th pics you can see how many windows they added in just 5 days:
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557775/img/Anonymous/n9.jpg

http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557782/img/Anonymous/n13.jpg

Yankee fan for life
Mar 31, 2013, 7:36 PM
Thank's for the link pnapp1, earth cam is still not working for me on my own. other than your link that you sent me wonder why ?

kpdrummer82
Mar 31, 2013, 10:28 PM
Here we go; pictures galore! From this past Thursday
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8111/8607998522_4b3edb6925_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8528/8606895027_6d62e1d23f_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8126/8608001014_d42b160572_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8112/8606896817_1a62df1d68_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8520/8608002332_8cc53e15f4_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8241/8608003110_b59a755867_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8384/8608003516_be4dd25bc7_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8243/8606899719_fdb54b5fe4_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8520/8606900607_31036f5f79_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8104/8606901033_7c9dcbdbdb_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8266/8606901535_47b9d5a9db_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8247/8608007556_9e307312cf_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8542/8606903303_3b43ece2be_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8264/8608009796_f483582916_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8525/8608011854_885c5c0688_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8114/8606907401_d1dbf54188_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8266/8608013334_5af1a163da_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8520/8606909001_83bd00b14e_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8112/8606911589_b666c36435_b.jpg

trois
Apr 1, 2013, 12:08 AM
nice photos, it looks iconic. its somehow similar to washington monument. :)

jd3189
Apr 1, 2013, 12:13 AM
^^^ That was one of the inspirations.

Chapelo
Apr 1, 2013, 1:06 AM
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8125/8605085172_e7574102c4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/52836039@N02/8605085172/)
Brooklyn Bridge Traffic and Skyline (P1550998) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/52836039@N02/8605085172/) von michael.2999.pics (http://www.flickr.com/people/52836039@N02/) auf Flickr

North Tower :cheers:

winlinmac001
Apr 1, 2013, 1:17 AM
When will they complete the fireproofing on the base?
Also, are they going to leave that weird window just like that; or will it be eventually be replaced after finishing touches are complete?

:)

TechTalkGuy
Apr 1, 2013, 3:10 AM
:previous: Eventually, this tower will be complete.

Will they complete the fireproofing?
REALLY?

Wow, it shocks me that some individuals question the construction of this magnificent tower. :shrug:

kpdrummer82
Apr 1, 2013, 3:25 AM
:previous: Eventually, this tower will be complete.

Will they complete the fireproofing?
REALLY?

Wow, it shocks me that some individuals question the construction of this magnificent tower. :shrug:

You completely re-worded his quote and made it seem like he was doubting the progress...he was asking a simple question

TechTalkGuy
Apr 1, 2013, 3:49 AM
You completely re-worded his quote and made it seem like he was doubting the progress...he was asking a simple question

I did not use a block quote.
We all know that this tower will eventually be complete 100%.

Questioning the "weird window" sounds more like an insult and that is how I understood the statement in full.

I will not debate this any further, back on topic please! :order:

I really like the recent photos of the progress, thus far! ;)

SLC Projects
Apr 1, 2013, 7:07 AM
WOW, that is tall. Great photo updates guys. It's coming along very nice.

TechTalkGuy
Apr 1, 2013, 7:17 AM
The amount of tall buildings in the past few years has really transformed the downtown skyline with One WTC leading the way.

Anyone walking across the Brooklyn Bridge will immediately notice the difference this tower makes as the windows are attached, we are almost there! ;)

06hdfxdwg
Apr 1, 2013, 12:35 PM
Nothing to worry about guys. Before the building is officially turned over,the general contractor will do a walk through with the owners and between the both of them they will come up with what we call a "punch list".This is where any and all known discrepancies will be noted,repaired/rectified and then and only then will the owners receive stewardship of the building as "theirs" once the list is taken care of. Those worrying about windows can rest assured they will be addressed.

TouchTheSky13
Apr 1, 2013, 12:56 PM
I think a lot of the critics of the base design will be surpised once they pop out the fins. It will look really nice and will, in a subtle way, invoke the twin towers. The mast, on the other hand, will matter only to those who closely followed the rebuilding process and know what could have been. I don't think it will look too bad, especially at night. However, it will always be a reminder that we could have done better than what we got.

pnapp1
Apr 1, 2013, 4:00 PM
I was Downtown yesterday for brunch at the W Hotel and took a few pics. Kind of a shitty day out for pics but here are a few out of the norm type shots. I'll post more glam shots later. :cheers:

The Rings:
http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/wtc1_2013-03-31_p1.JPG

The Top:
http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/wtc1_2013-03-31_p2.JPG

The Reflection:
http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/wtc1_2013-03-31_p3.JPG

The West Side Glass Fill In:
http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/wtc1_2013-03-31_p4.JPG

The Base:
http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/wtc1_2013-03-31_p5.JPG

The Wonkavator :
http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/wtc1_2013-03-31_p6.JPG

http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/wtc1_2013-03-31_p7.JPG

QUEENSNYMAN
Apr 1, 2013, 6:08 PM
Excellent photo's pnapp1 thank you for this!

Thaniel
Apr 1, 2013, 6:40 PM
The West Side Glass Fill In:
http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/wtc1_2013-03-31_p4.JPG

The Wonkavator :
http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/wtc1_2013-03-31_p6.JPG

http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/wtc1_2013-03-31_p7.JPG

FINALLY!!!! They've only needed to fill in the glass from that missing service elevator for like half a year now. lol

So cool that they're just erecting the entire top of the mast at the bottom of the tower to be hoisted up as one.

2-TOWERS
Apr 1, 2013, 7:29 PM
FINALLY!!!! They've only needed to fill in the glass from that missing service elevator for like half a year now. lol

So cool that they're just erecting the entire top of the mast at the bottom of the tower to be hoisted up as one.

How Cool that would be to be able to go into the tip seems like it would be enough for about 10pax :notacrook:

babybackribs2314
Apr 1, 2013, 7:38 PM
Big update from this weekend!

It's annoying how the West Side Highway is still totally blocked off to the WTC unless you happen to be visiting the memorial. Honestly, the memorial should be totally public; if it remains closed off, I could see the complex being somewhat of a failure... it's so difficult to walk around & the streets that are open are totally crowded with clueless tourists. VERY frustrating.

One World Trade Center April 2013 Construction Update (http://www.yimbynews.com/2013/04/construction-update-one-world-trade.html)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cm11xiykT_0/UVjCK5tS7MI/AAAAAAAATgI/K5ETA3XXcYI/s640/20130330_141025.jpg

NYGrail
Apr 1, 2013, 7:55 PM
I saw this billboard while at the mall in White Plains, NY yesterday--it's for the upcoming 911 memorial run with Jon Stewart. I thought it would be nice to show everyone that they are using graphics from the old spire design (lol).

http://i46.tinypic.com/2i0ugz5.jpg

weatherguru18
Apr 1, 2013, 8:58 PM
Slightly off topic and WAY down the road, but on what date in the future will the new WTC will have been standing longer than the old complex and do you think there will be pomp and circumstance surrounding that day?

Guiltyspark
Apr 1, 2013, 8:59 PM
I did not use a block quote.
We all know that this tower will eventually be complete 100%.

Questioning the "weird window" sounds more like an insult and that is how I understood the statement in full.

I will not debate this any further, back on topic please! :order:

I really like the recent photos of the progress, thus far! ;)

"When will they complete the fireproofing on the base?"

This is a reasonable question about the timeline for construction.

You absolutely took it out of context when you quoted it as "Will they complete the fireproofing?"

Getting rid of the "when" at the top completely changes the whole meaning of the posters question. You made it sound like he was either implying or thought it was possible that the fireproofing, and thus the tower, would never be finished.

Another example would be misquoting "I don't believe that we should eat our children" to "we should eat our children." Do you see how that completely changes the meaning? It is not a debate, it is just a misquote.

Anyway, the overall shape of the tower has actually grown on me now that the glass is almost complete. I never disliked it, but it is starting to look quite dominant and I quite like the taper from certain angles. I am still not a huge fan of the redesigned base, but it could have been a lot worse. I wonder if they ever considered cladding the base in the same fashion as the rest of the tower, probably not since they wanted the base to be distinctive, but I think a base that was clad as a mirror image of the first 20 floors above the base could have looked interesting. It also may have done more to disguise the fact that the base in a glass enclosed bunker by making it blend with the rest of the tower more. Oh well, what we are getting down there is not bad by any means.

The mast is still poo though.

mheadroom
Apr 1, 2013, 10:03 PM
I saw this billboard while at the mall in White Plains, NY yesterday--it's for the upcoming 911 memorial run with Jon Stewart. I thought it would be nice to show everyone that they are using graphics from the old spire design (lol).

http://i46.tinypic.com/2i0ugz5.jpg

Eh, it just looks like a poorly rendered skyline.

My favorite source of graphic design irony is that they decided to prominently feature the spire in the building's logo — right before they axed the spire.

http://www.greenbuildingsnyc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/One-WTC-Logo.jpg

StrongIsland
Apr 1, 2013, 11:10 PM
[QUOTE=babybackribs2314;6074347]Big update from this weekend!

It's annoying how the West Side Highway is still totally blocked off to the WTC unless you happen to be visiting the memorial. Honestly, the memorial should be totally public; if it remains closed off, I could see the complex being somewhat of a failure... it's so difficult to walk around & the streets that are open are totally crowded with clueless tourists. VERY frustrating.[QUOTE]

It's only like that now because of all the construction. When it's done the site will be open for people to freely walk around like it was before.

ih8pickingusernames
Apr 1, 2013, 11:57 PM
Eh, it just looks like a poorly rendered skyline.

My favorite source of graphic design irony is that they decided to prominently feature the spire in the building's logo — right before they axed the spire.

http://www.greenbuildingsnyc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/One-WTC-Logo.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8240/8612116114_3180293776_z.jpg
Redesigned!:tup:

Chapelo
Apr 2, 2013, 12:35 AM
Slightly off topic and WAY down the road, but on what date in the future will the new WTC will have been standing longer than the old complex and do you think there will be pomp and circumstance surrounding that day?


If we go by when the first complex was originally dedicated (April 4, 1973, 40 year anniversary in a few days), and assuming the new complex is completed in 2018 (just for shits and giggles), then 2046.

The original 1WTC North Tower was completed Dec 23, 1970. So on Sep 11, 2001 it was standing for 30 years, 8 months and 19 days.

It was topped out on Dec. 23, 1970. The building wasn't fully completed until mid-1972.

alex4apple
Apr 2, 2013, 12:46 AM
No, I believe they said the memorial complex will be open when One WTC is complete. Last I checked they were going to have bomb and gun powder "sniffer" devices across the perimeter of the site. All safety measures will be hidden, they said they didn't want to make the memorial closed off like it is now, they wanted it to be open like it was and with-out the bomb "sniffer" devices to be obvious so it feels open as I said. (I believe the last time I checked they are hidden in small pillars that are spread out by a couple feet from each other around the site perimeter) But it's closed off right now because of the construction. The only thing that wil have to go under an airport style security check will be trucks, but thats not new, they made trucks do that before 9/11 and after the '93 attack.

Thaniel
Apr 2, 2013, 12:48 AM
Slightly off topic and WAY down the road, but on what date in the future will the new WTC will have been standing longer than the old complex and do you think there will be pomp and circumstance surrounding that day?

The original 1WTC North Tower was completed Dec 23, 1970. So on Sep 11, 2001 it was standing for 30 years, 8 months and 19 days.

So the new OneWTC tower (assuming they are aiming for a July 4, 2013 completion date) will be older than the original 1WTC on Mar 23, 2044 IF their planned 'symbolic' completion date is July 4th this year.

That is going from when the 1WTC tower itself was completed. The whole complex was opened April 4, 1973. This new complex could take until 2016 to 2017 to complete depending on when the construction of Two WTC resumes. And that depends on when they get enough tenants to make a profit from building the tower at all.

Thaniel
Apr 2, 2013, 12:58 AM
No, I believe they said the memorial complex will be open when One WTC is complete. Last I checked they were going to have bomb and gun powder "sniffer" devices across the perimeter of the site. All safety measures will be hidden, they said they didn't want to make the memorial closed off like it is now, they wanted it to be open like it was and with-out the bomb "sniffer" devices to be obvious so it feels open as I said. (I believe the last time I checked they are hidden in small pillars that are spread out by a couple feet from each other around the site perimeter) But it's closed off right now because of the construction. The only thing that wil have to go under an airport style security check will be trucks, but thats not new, they made trucks do that before 9/11 and after the '93 attack.

Yeah, I would think they wouldn't want the complex to be hard to get around when it's complete it is going to have a 2 story shopping mall beneath it. Closing off easy access to a shopping mall would make a lot of businesses close their stores there.

Benjamin Osborne
Apr 2, 2013, 1:06 AM
I know that this may seem as a superfluous question, but how many floors will One World Trade Center have? I've heard 104, 105, or even 108 according to the forum…

mheadroom
Apr 2, 2013, 1:37 AM
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8240/8612116114_3180293776_z.jpg
Redesigned!:tup:

Super accurate depiction! You're really good.

Unfortunately, the logo now looks like a buttcrack that's been stitched shut.

kpdrummer82
Apr 2, 2013, 2:00 AM
Big update from this weekend!

It's annoying how the West Side Highway is still totally blocked off to the WTC unless you happen to be visiting the memorial. Honestly, the memorial should be totally public; if it remains closed off, I could see the complex being somewhat of a failure... it's so difficult to walk around & the streets that are open are totally crowded with clueless tourists. VERY frustrating.

One World Trade Center April 2013 Construction Update (http://www.yimbynews.com/2013/04/construction-update-one-world-trade.html)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cm11xiykT_0/UVjCK5tS7MI/AAAAAAAATgI/K5ETA3XXcYI/s640/20130330_141025.jpg

A worker at the memorial told me within 2 years the memorial will be opened up to the park like status that it is supposed to be. There won't be nearly as much traffic and confusion then. It has nothing to do with 1 WTC

alex4apple
Apr 2, 2013, 3:39 AM
Officially it has 104 floors. Not sure where you heard 108 but I know 1368 ft. is the roof height so unless there talking about the parapet steel which goes up to 1373 ft then I dont know, even with the parapet steel it wouldn't reach 108 anyway :/ So they were probably wrong.

gramsjdg
Apr 2, 2013, 5:32 AM
Super accurate depiction! You're really good.

Unfortunately, the logo now looks like a buttcrack that's been stitched shut.

AMEN BROTHER, that is the truth! Maybe "Dirtbag" Durst will be shamed into installing the radome after all!

The so-called "Spire" is going to be so ugly that he won't hear the end of it!

Otie
Apr 2, 2013, 7:50 AM
Officially it has 104 floors. Not sure where you heard 108 but I know 1368 ft. is the roof height so unless there talking about the parapet steel which goes up to 1373 ft then I dont know, even with the parapet steel it wouldn't reach 108 anyway :/ So they were probably wrong.

No, no no, you've got the facts wrong. The tower has 85 real floors with 10 mezzanines, although some of them aren't officially labeled as mezzanines.

Fact is the whole thing is a mess, you've got skipped floors over here and there, and some labeled floors aren't real floors. Take for instance the 3-level platform ring (levels 107-109), heck even the maintaining catwalks are counted as a floor!!

"floor 110" is designated to the platform on the mast where the guy wires get connected, and it is the uppermost level.

1368' refers to the parapet height from Fulton, the 1373' figure comes from the topographic difference between Fulton St. and Vesey St (lowest one)

All measurements released by the PA comes from Fulton Street entrance as starting point, so you get 1334'8" for the roof slab(level 105) and 1368 for the top of parapet.

Yankee
Apr 2, 2013, 9:59 AM
Hi guys, sorry for the trivial question, but when will it look finished on the outside?

jd3189
Apr 2, 2013, 10:07 AM
^^^ Knowing how this complex is no stranger to delays, I would predict that the glass and the mast will both be finished by late May to late June or early July.

MadGnome
Apr 2, 2013, 12:14 PM
No, no no, you've got the facts wrong. The tower has 85 real floors with 10 mezzanines, although some of them aren't officially labeled as mezzanines.

Fact is the whole thing is a mess, you've got skipped floors over here and there, and some labeled floors aren't real floors. Take for instance the 3-level platform ring (levels 107-109), heck even the maintaining catwalks are counted as a floor!!

"floor 110" is designated to the platform on the mast where the guy wires get connected, and it is the uppermost level.

1368' refers to the parapet height from Fulton, the 1373' figure comes from the topographic difference between Fulton St. and Vesey St (lowest one)

All measurements released by the PA comes from Fulton Street entrance as starting point, so you get 1334'8" for the roof slab(level 105) and 1368 for the top of parapet.

The floor level measurement actually starts from the bottom of the building, about 70 feet below grade. If you measure from there, starting with floor 20, the count actually makes sense at 13' 4".
108 floors @ 13.33ft = 1440 ft, which is almost exactly the lowest subfloor to the top of the parapet.

NYguy
Apr 2, 2013, 12:39 PM
They're doing live shots from the observation deck on "Good Day New York" right now for anyone who can catch it...but they say its a media day, so we should get lots of views later on.




March 19

http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/12557847/img/Anonymous/ny184.jpg

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Very New York.



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hunser
Apr 2, 2013, 3:31 PM
Official promo for the obs.deck:

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NYGrail
Apr 2, 2013, 3:50 PM
Here is the Good Day New York feature--it has shots from inside the observation deck:

http://www.myfoxny.com/video?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=8732375

OptimumPx
Apr 2, 2013, 3:58 PM
Official promo for the obs.deck:

cprZGB1WFuY

Man that is a long walk from the ticket booth to the elevator, isn't it?

Good to see they won't be blocking the view with those stupid ads though.

RockMont
Apr 2, 2013, 4:48 PM
That observation deck is going to be spectacular. One question though.. Is it supposed to be available in 2014 or 2015?

alex4apple
Apr 2, 2013, 4:52 PM
I said 104 floors because thats the official floor count that the PA and Silverstein gave. Yes I am aware of 110th "floor" but I am saying ACTUAL floors on the building. And yes I am also aware the tower only has 85 real floors but what I was saying to his question was the "official" floor count they gave. So I was NOT counting the floors you said I "skipped", I was just talking about the actual building minus the antenna and platform ring. Although I did not think about the upper floors (105-110) you where talking about so thats true thanks for pointing that out, I forgot about that so yeah thats probably the answer to his question, unless MadGnome is right, because that makes sense as well so again it's one of those two answers. I'm not sure.

weatherguru18
Apr 2, 2013, 5:04 PM
From a personal standpoint, I'm not sure that I could allow myself to go to the observation deck. I'm going to say what a lot of others are thinking---I'd be looking for airplanes and I'd be worried of being trapped up at the top of the building in the event of another tragedy. While I KNOW that there is very little chance of something happening to this building, the memories of 9/11 will always be with me. If I DID go to the top, I doubt I'd stay long. Anybody else feel that way?

hunser
Apr 2, 2013, 5:16 PM
From a personal standpoint, I'm not sure that I could allow myself to go to the observation deck. I'm going to say what a lot of others are thinking---I'd be looking for airplanes and I'd be worried of being trapped up at the top of the building in the event of another tragedy. While I KNOW that there is very little chance of something happening to this building, the memories of 9/11 will always be with me. If I DID go to the top, I doubt I'd stay long. Anybody else feel that way?

No. But I do understand how you may feel about going up there. For me, 9/11 was a singular event.

Some pics from the obs.deck:
http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2013/04/02/15_views_of_1_wtcs_100thfloor_observation_deck.php#515af7daf92ea12d9e0109c3

Otie
Apr 2, 2013, 5:29 PM
From a personal standpoint, I'm not sure that I could allow myself to go to the observation deck. I'm going to say what a lot of others are thinking---I'd be looking for airplanes and I'd be worried of being trapped up at the top of the building in the event of another tragedy. While I KNOW that there is very little chance of something happening to this building, the memories of 9/11 will always be with me. If I DID go to the top, I doubt I'd stay long. Anybody else feel that way?

The core of Tower One is probably the safest place to be in the entire city.

alex4apple
Apr 2, 2013, 6:19 PM
Probably :P

ih8pickingusernames
Apr 2, 2013, 7:14 PM
From a personal standpoint, I'm not sure that I could allow myself to go to the observation deck. I'm going to say what a lot of others are thinking---I'd be looking for airplanes and I'd be worried of being trapped up at the top of the building in the event of another tragedy. While I KNOW that there is very little chance of something happening to this building, the memories of 9/11 will always be with me. If I DID go to the top, I doubt I'd stay long. Anybody else feel that way?

What's the difference of being on the top of this building than being on top of the Empire State. Nothing. Stop living in fear, because that a'int living!

RobEss
Apr 2, 2013, 7:41 PM
That observation deck promo left me with a sour taste in my mouth. It looks like a childrens museum! A hallway surrounded by fake stone? Really??

Probably didn't help that the video had all the visual provenance of the Sims 2.

MarshallKnight
Apr 2, 2013, 7:44 PM
Man that is a long walk from the ticket booth to the elevator, isn't it?


Going to be pretty rough on those -- like me -- who get claustrophobic, especially if there's a crush pushing through. Just watching that approach gave me flashbacks to some of my more terrifying formative experiences...

Still! The "live host" on the observation deck sounds like a pretty ideal job for someone on this forum... Just saying.

meh_cd
Apr 2, 2013, 8:57 PM
Official promo for the obs.deck:

cprZGB1WFuY

Stupid. The long, winding hallway surrounded by "bedrock" is going to be jam packed with people if other observatories are any indication. I hope people like standing in a long, dark hallway for 15+ minutes.

As others have said the renders make it look like something out of Disney. The screens are still there in some areas as well.

Onn
Apr 2, 2013, 9:24 PM
The observation deck is going to look great, love everything about it! Since the shape of the tower isn't a plain box there's going to be a lot of crazy views of the city! Can't wait to visit when it's finished! :cheers:

The base cladding, on the other hand, still doesn't impress me. The patterned look looks silly, much the same way on 7WTC. I can't believe that's the best they could come up with. :uhh:

mheadroom
Apr 2, 2013, 9:27 PM
http://imgur.com/PfN2j5Q.jpg

In case anyone was wondering how much empty space there is in the squared off base with the ugly green glass.

Thaniel
Apr 2, 2013, 9:46 PM
In case anyone was wondering how much empty space there is in the squared off base with the ugly green glass.

The rats in the city gotta live somewhere. lol

NYguy
Apr 2, 2013, 11:32 PM
That virtual "sky pod" elevator will be amazing.


http://blog.archpaper.com/wordpress/archives/58194


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http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130402&content_id=43708566&vkey=news_nyy&c_id=nyy

Yankees get preview of One World Observatory

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Legends board of directors and Yankees front office personnel were on hand for the event.


By Joey Nowak
4/2/2013

Yankees managing general partner Hal Steinbrenner was on hand Tuesday for an exclusive preview of One World Observatory from the 100th floor of One World Trade Center in New York.

Steinbrenner was joined by other members of the Legends board of directors and Yankees front office, including general partner Jennifer Steinbrenner Swindal, team president Randy Levine and senior vice president/chief financial officer Anthony Bruno at the event, which offered a glimpse of the views from the top of the building, more than 1,250 feet above Manhattan.

Construction on the observation deck will begin in early 2014, and when the facility opens in '15, it will provide millions of visitors with an observatory-deck experience on Floors 100-102.

"As a building unlike any other in the world, One World Trade Center rightfully deserves an observatory experience unlike any other in the world," Steinbrenner said in a statement. "The Yankees organization is proud to be a part of One World Observatory, a project that will combine the best that New York has to offer, from awe-inspiring city views to top-notch service, and elevate the visitor experience to new heights."

Guests at the event got a first glimpse at what the experience will entail, including "Skypod" elevators that will give visitors the experience of being outside the building as they ascend and descend the structure in 60 seconds.

The observatory will feature a pre-show theater called "See Forever," where guests will learn about the history of the building. The deck will also feature dining options and an event space.

One World Trade Center is a joint venture between The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey and The Durst Organization. Legends, which is owned by the Dallas Cowboys, the Yankees and the Checketts Partners Investment Fund, was the company chosen to develop and operate the observation deck.

Chibears85
Apr 3, 2013, 2:08 AM
The core of Tower One is probably the safest place to be in the entire city.

Dont know if true, but cant it survive an atomic bomb?

deepen915
Apr 3, 2013, 2:35 AM
as great as the view will be from this Observation Deck..nothing will beat my experience in 2001, of going to the 110th floor and Roof of the South Tower.. absolutely amazing view.

RockMont
Apr 3, 2013, 2:38 AM
If it takes a full year, just to complete the observation deck section, then it should be absolutely spectacular. I was disappointed to find out, that it wouldn't be 'til '15, but when I found out that the building would be open for business in '14, that is why I was under the impression, that the observation deck was going to be ready then too.

drumz0rz
Apr 3, 2013, 10:06 AM
as great as the view will be from this Observation Deck..nothing will beat my experience in 2001, of going to the 110th floor and Roof of the South Tower.. absolutely amazing view.

agreed, there was nothing quite like being on the roof of the tallest building in NY. I remember I was up there one night and the wind was blowing up the building. one side of the roof was windy as hell and the other side was perfectly calm. it was so cool. While it'll be nice to get that view back, it won't ever be the same.

Oh, and I would wager that being in the subways would be the safest place to in the city.

SylNYC
Apr 3, 2013, 12:19 PM
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Ed007Toronto
Apr 3, 2013, 1:08 PM
Looking great.

NYguy
Apr 3, 2013, 1:15 PM
The Wonkavator :
http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/wtc1_2013-03-31_p6.JPG

http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/wtc1_2013-03-31_p7.JPG


Some think this may be a determining factor...



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High a-spire-ations at WTC


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By LOIS WEISS
April 3, 2013


We’re finally convinced that the One World Center antenna is going to be deemed a spire.

Yesterday, we got a peek at the faceted, rocket-like crown of the 408 foot-long “antenna” structure that looks like it will take off for another planet.

While this roughly 100 foot section will soon leave terra firma on a crane ride to its 1,700 foot-high perch on top of other “antenna” pieces, the capsule will only
appear to touch the stars.

Inside the shiny skin, workers are wiring up hundreds of individual LED lights, whose beams will comprise an architectural beacon flooding the tri-state area via a
spinning mirror. An FAA beacon will also wink on the top.

A short lightning rod will top off the tower at 1,795.4 feet above the north lobby, and all will be lit at night by a colorful array of LED lights.

With a pinnacle worthy of Major Tom and a long, curvy perch that can been identified from the Tappan Zee Bridge, we have no doubt now that One WTC will get its
height certified all the way to the 1,776-foot top.





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PZelda
Apr 3, 2013, 2:47 PM
No, I believe they said the memorial complex will be open when One WTC is complete. Last I checked they were going to have bomb and gun powder "sniffer" devices across the perimeter of the site. All safety measures will be hidden, they said they didn't want to make the memorial closed off like it is now, they wanted it to be open like it was and with-out the bomb "sniffer" devices to be obvious so it feels open as I said. (I believe the last time I checked they are hidden in small pillars that are spread out by a couple feet from each other around the site perimeter) But it's closed off right now because of the construction. The only thing that wil have to go under an airport style security check will be trucks, but thats not new, they made trucks do that before 9/11 and after the '93 attack.

Yep -- don't want tourists wandering through construction sites on all sides!! Myself, I will be glad when that's all done... I don't care for having to take the long way to get to the memorial.

NYGrail
Apr 3, 2013, 7:28 PM
My friend's cousin is a carpenter at 1WTC and took these photos from the spire yesterday:

http://i48.tinypic.com/xfss29.jpg

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Jonboy1983
Apr 3, 2013, 8:29 PM
Hey NYGuy, is there a cockpit inside that thing? Perhaps we could try and get Gene Wilder to pilot the thing -- per the "Wonkavator" reference. ;-)

I can't wait for this thing to finish. I'm getting psyched for this tower. I didn't think I was going to get excited, but boy am I ever!!!

To all those who have had the pleasure to physically work on this building in some fashion, KUDOS! Take it in! Looking at each of the photos of workers erecting this think makes me wish I was an iron worker or structural engineer involved with this thing. I would love to meet one of these guys/ladies some day. I'm sure it's awesome to be part of history.

hunser
Apr 3, 2013, 8:52 PM
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tele75
Apr 3, 2013, 8:59 PM
@ NYGrail - Thanks so much for sharing those! I don't think views from the spire itself are going to be all that common. Just stunning.

NYguy
Apr 3, 2013, 9:27 PM
My friend's cousin is a carpenter at 1WTC and took these photos from the spire yesterday:

http://i48.tinypic.com/xfss29.jpg


Nice view from up there.



Hey NYGuy, is there a cockpit inside that thing? Perhaps we could try and get Gene Wilder to pilot the thing -- per the "Wonkavator" reference. ;-)


It's the only decent looking part, and that's too bad. Ironically, placing that piece on top only brings home how awkward looking the rest of the design is.


A little more footage from the observation deck...
http://bronx.news12.com/news/world-trade-center-s-one-world-observatory-attraction-opens-for-a-sneak-peak-1.4994634

http://bronx.news12.com/news/footage-from-1-wtc-observatory-1.4993812




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Design-mind
Apr 3, 2013, 9:31 PM
http://i45.tinypic.com/rka7t4.jpg

Thanks for posting! Love this view of midtown! They really do need an outside observation deck.

NYguy
Apr 3, 2013, 10:10 PM
http://darkroom.baltimoresun.com/2013/04/an-inside-look-at-the-observation-floor-in-one-world-trade-center/#1


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QUEENSNYMAN
Apr 3, 2013, 10:38 PM
Wow, thanks NYguy for the above pics! The shot of mid-town is now by background.

NYguy
Apr 3, 2013, 10:52 PM
Wow, thanks NYguy for the above pics! The shot of mid-town is now by background.

It's a great view that's been gone for too long. Can't wait to get back up there.




http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2013/04/03/1_wtc_gets_ready_to_be_topped_by_a_big_blinking_beacon.php

1 WTC Gets Ready to be Topped by a Big Blinking Beacon


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Wednesday, April 3, 2013, by Pete Davies


Speaking of the top of 1 World Trade Center, where the observation deck was revealed yesterday, the tower's spire is rising, too. Still to come is another 200-plus-feet of in-spiring steel with a blinking beacon up top. It will soon be put in place by the crane crew at DCM Erections. Until it rises, that massive metal appendage is tucked away between the base of 1 WTC and Vesey Street, shrouded from the public view. But from the pedestrian bridge along the north side of the tower, we spied the uppermost part of the long-awaited spire.

A team of techies from J. R. Clancy, Ballantyne Strong, and TDK Engineering are busy getting the beacon's inner workings in line. Illumination will come from multiple modules containing 264 LEDs tucked inside the beacon framework, together blazing forth a combined 316,800 lumens. The little lights are designed to remain stationary, reflected by rotating mirror-like aluminum panels attached to a motorized turntable. The lighting is changeable and will mark holidays and civic celebrations. The entire assemblage is built to withstand the range of New York weather and will shine every night, from just before dusk until after the dawn.




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The energy-efficient beacon shines at 1,740 feet above the streets of New York, just below the 1,776-foot total height of the new tower. "The antenna structure is approximately 400' tall and consists of 18 separate segments," explains Tom Trytek, P.E. of TDK Engineering, the firm Clancy chose as its partner in completing the project. "Our component, the beacon, is in the last segment."

The light itself is made up of 16 suitcase-sized petals, each containing 11 modules of LED lights. The bottom petals each contain an array of 22 LED modules. Each module produces 1,200 lumens on its own, for a cumulative total of 316,800 lumens-a light that will be seen easily from Manhattan to New Jersey, even on a foggy night. Designing a super-bright lighting fixture is challenging enough, but the fact that this beacon lives above 1,700' required the design team to think through every aspect of maintenance and repair.

"The specifications from the architect were that the beacon was to be fully capable of being dismantled and replaced in place," says Trytek. "The beacon is segmented, so every component can be removed individually and replaced."

Even with all of these precautions, the team knew that service personnel would need to access every part of the beacon for routine maintenance and repairs -- both for the beacon itself, and for the components above it. "Through the center of the mirror system is an access ladder," says Trytek. "Just above the beacon on the tower are four FAA lights, as well as a light at the very top of the antenna. So we had to be sure that a maintenance person could pass through without interfering with the mirror, to reach the lights at the top of the tower."

IntoTheLens827
Apr 4, 2013, 3:48 AM
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Jaystang5
Apr 4, 2013, 3:57 AM
I'm guessing its gonna be a while before the rest of the window panels are put in placed, since the ac system has to be up and running right? Or is ventilation not the reason for the missing panels?

NYdude
Apr 4, 2013, 4:09 AM
http://darkroom.baltimoresun.com/2013/04/an-inside-look-at-the-observation-floor-in-one-world-trade-center/#1


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http://darkroom.baltimoresun.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/AFP_Getty-165261102.jpg

These views are amazing. I never went up in the original towers. I absolutely cannot wait till this opens. Breath taking.

2-TOWERS
Apr 4, 2013, 6:48 AM
Thanks for posting! Love this view of midtown! They really do need an outside observation deck.

its too bad they couldn't just leave the temporary platform that would be a great outside observation deck not to mention the added height...yes we are getting a great observatory but much lower then what we had :yuck:

NYguy
Apr 4, 2013, 11:07 AM
yes we are getting a great observatory but much lower then what we had :yuck:


It's not much lower than what we had. It's lower, but not by an amount to really matter. The windows at the new deck will make for better viewing though.
One thing about the old outdoor deck was that you couldn't go all the way to the edge because the platform wasn't built that way.



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Tectonic
Apr 4, 2013, 11:44 AM
I have a like dislike thing going with this building. It looks great in those distant shots and coming over the Kosciuszko Bridge into Brooklyn from Queens for example.

StrongIsland
Apr 4, 2013, 12:42 PM
I'm guessing its gonna be a while before the rest of the window panels are put in placed, since the ac system has to be up and running right? Or is ventilation not the reason for the missing panels?

Nope, new glass went up on the West/Southwest face and North East face yesterday :yes::tup:

hunser
Apr 4, 2013, 12:58 PM
From WTC progress: https://www.facebook.com/wtcprogress

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BG9NaWtCQAEhFzi.jpg:large

PhillyToNYC
Apr 4, 2013, 1:01 PM
And which block has the current progress been made to?

OptimumPx
Apr 4, 2013, 1:05 PM
And which block has the current progress been made to?

Looks like block 312 to me. (http://archives.earthcam.com/archives5/ecnetwork/us/ny/nyc/gzmpr/gzmpr288_8.jpg)

PhillyToNYC
Apr 4, 2013, 1:12 PM
Thanks, I'll make something in photoshop later. Anyways I thought I'd share this pic from April 2012-1 year ago. Kind of shows just how much gets done in a year.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/94657502@N03/8618316789/in/photostream/

By me.

PZelda
Apr 4, 2013, 2:33 PM
Thanks, I'll make something in photoshop later. Anyways I thought I'd share this pic from April 2012-1 year ago. Kind of shows just how much gets done in a year.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/94657502@N03/8618316789/in/photostream/

By me.

You only posted a link to your photostream, so nothing comes up on your post. Is this the one you wanted to post?

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8118/8618316789_e2972a5976_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/94657502@N03/8618316789/)
IMG_0864 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/94657502@N03/8618316789/) by PhillyToNyc (http://www.flickr.com/people/94657502@N03/), on Flickr

I agree... Huge change!! Actually makes me think of how 1 WTC looked in 2011, but taller by that point. So much black netting! :)

Thaniel
Apr 4, 2013, 6:26 PM
Kinda creepy pic I took while there of a tombstone next to the tower. Died Sep 11, 1796.

http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/12605795/img/Anonymous/ny8.jpg

deepen915
Apr 4, 2013, 7:00 PM
Kinda creepy pic I took while there of a tombstone next to the tower. Died Sep 11, 1796.

not cool... :uhh: lol

PhillyToNYC
Apr 4, 2013, 7:18 PM
Yep, that was the exact pic, thanks!

Thaniel
Apr 4, 2013, 10:02 PM
Two questions:

1. Okay, so the 'tall standing thing on top' and the communication rings weigh 1,525 tons. Does anyone know what the weight of the entire tower is when finished? (including that 1,525 tons)

2. How does that 'tall standing thing on top''s weight match up to other antennas, masts, and spires that AREN'T included as architectural height to their respective towers. Or even the original 1WTC antenna weight?

To me that 800 ton weight might be the biggest thing the mast has for being included as architectural height if indeed that's heavier than any old antenna added to the top of another building.

NYguy
Apr 4, 2013, 10:32 PM
To me that 800 ton weight might be the biggest thing the mast has for being included as architectural height if indeed that's heavier than any old antenna added to the top of another building.

No, I don't think there is a category for "heaviest structure on top". That logic just doesn't make sense anyway. The building that has the "heaviest" antenna loses that height footage when another tower puts up a larger antenna? And some buildings have more than one. Do we count the combined height? The guidelines are very specific for what counts as height.




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PZelda
Apr 5, 2013, 12:28 AM
Kinda creepy pic I took while there of a tombstone next to the tower. Died Sep 11, 1796.

http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/12605795/img/Anonymous/ny8.jpg

Is it just me, or is this pic not showing up for anyone else in Thaniel's post? I had to copy/paste the URL in another tab to view the picture. (Edit: nevermind, now it shows up here, lol)

I've seen that gravestone before and I agree, I thought it was creepy too! The colonial-era gravestones all give me the creeps, actually. But, I like how that picture turned out!

Alpha Sky
Apr 5, 2013, 1:07 AM
Here are several photos of WTC1 toward the end of March 2013

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8242/8617010487_0476f42195_c.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8394/8618117038_26ca6e2d78_c.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8382/8618116684_ac27665e92_c.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8384/8617010005_952141e980_c.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8110/8618117270_21101216d4_c.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8538/8618117212_f808bf4306_c.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8543/8617010473_f28425d581_c.jpg

Enjoy! Alpha Sky (aka, Mario Moreira)

Renton
Apr 5, 2013, 2:15 AM
It's a great view that's been gone for too long. Can't wait to get back up there.




http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2013/04/03/1_wtc_gets_ready_to_be_topped_by_a_big_blinking_beacon.php

1 WTC Gets Ready to be Topped by a Big Blinking Beacon


http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/515a4ed0f92ea124850106cd/201304_1WTCSpire_1.jpg


Wednesday, April 3, 2013, by Pete Davies






http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/149513250/original.jpg



http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/149513252/original.jpg



http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/149513254/original.jpg



http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/149513256/original.jpg




http://www.lightingandsoundamerica.com/news/story.asp?ID=365SG2

Much better Neuralizer than the one at the top of the Statue of Liberty.....

Thaniel
Apr 5, 2013, 2:46 AM
No, I don't think there is a category for "heaviest structure on top". That logic just doesn't make sense anyway. The building that has the "heaviest" antenna loses that height footage when another tower puts up a larger antenna? And some buildings have more than one. Do we count the combined height? The guidelines are very specific for what counts as height.



But why doesn't the lightning rod on top count toward the height? The tower's height will be recorded as 1,776 feet but the actual height will be 1,795 feet with the lightning rod. What about the metal in that lightning rod doesn't denote structural height worthy integrity? It looks like a pretty sturdy lightning rod

TouchTheSky13
Apr 5, 2013, 2:50 AM
But why doesn't the lightning rod on top count toward the height? The tower's height will be recorded as 1,776 feet but the actual height will be 1,795 feet with the lightning rod. What about the metal in that lightning rod doesn't denote structural height worthy integrity? It looks like a pretty sturdy lightning rod


Because ALL buildings have lightening rods as required by law. They are not counted in those buildings' overall heights. The only difference is that this lightening rod is on top of a beacon, which is on top of a...i don't even know what to call it.

bigreach
Apr 5, 2013, 2:51 AM
The observeratory to me looks quite cheesy, until you get to the rock formations,, I think that looks rather cool, however can you imagine the traffic in,, I doubt they go out that way, but I imagine it'll be a circus in that tight hallway..

Silverfox
Apr 5, 2013, 4:27 AM
I think the hallways would look better without the random animations. The entrance looks nice and futuristic, but that serene feeling is lost when you enter the hallway and you're suddenly surrounded by stuff that looks like sports ads, Kodak commercials, and random people. It clashes with the aesthetically pleasing ultramodern surreal vibe that the rest of this new building (and complex) have.

NYguy
Apr 5, 2013, 7:40 AM
Here are several photos of WTC1 toward the end of March 2013

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8394/8618117038_26ca6e2d78_c.jpg


Always a nice angle to view the tower.



But why doesn't the lightning rod on top count toward the height? The tower's height will be recorded as 1,776 feet but the actual height will be 1,795 feet with the lightning rod. What about the metal in that lightning rod doesn't denote structural height worthy integrity? It looks like a pretty sturdy lightning rod

It's not exactly clear from the photo of the top piece.

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/149513256/original.jpg




The observeratory to me looks quite cheesy, until you get to the rock formations,, I think that looks rather cool, however can you imagine the traffic in,, I doubt they go out that way, but I imagine it'll be a circus in that tight hallway..

Well, entrance to the deck will be done in groups, like the other decks. It won't be a steady stream of people in there. Also, if you look at the video, there may be 3 or 4 of those tunnels.


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http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20130404/REAL_ESTATE/130409926

By Annie Karni
April 4, 2013


In lower Manhattan—an area that won't be willingly given back to Mother Nature—some commercial office towers are planning for the next flood by building "submarine doors." Tishman Construction is planning to add the water-sealed doors to the tower rising at 1 World Trade Center, which flooded with 20 feet of water during the October storm.

"Submarine doors will be a feature going with a concrete core," said Jay Badame, CEO of Tishman Construction. A spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey said all options were on the table but that they had not committed to anything, yet.



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