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NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 15, 2012, 11:34 PM
[QUOTE=CarlosV;5628544]Steel erected!!!!
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..and damn that is huge. Although it's not going to have a roof height as tall as other buildings like the International Commerce Centre, or Shanghai WFC, it looks much taller than it is because it has no setbacks, and does not narrow out as much like other buildings (Taipei 101, Burj Khalifa) There's not many buildings in the world with a "solid" roof height
Roadcruiser1
Mar 15, 2012, 11:44 PM
It would make people feel safer though..just wondering but do any members here remember the view from the observation deck? I never went
Here. Now look at the pictures above and see how things have changed since 14 years.
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IntoTheLens827
Mar 15, 2012, 11:55 PM
Hey, what's going on with One World Trade Center Freedom Tower's Construction Lights inside the entire building? I just looked at the Earth Cam from Liberty Cams & it seems VERY DIM & Dark. 4WTC is still lit up like how 1WTC used to be. Are they cutting cost on Electric? Anyone know's what's going on? Please Get Back To Me! Thanks! :-) :tup:
NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 16, 2012, 12:03 AM
Here. Now look at the pictures above and see how things have changed since 14 years.
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Nice thank you
alan88
Mar 16, 2012, 1:02 AM
Hey, what's going on with One World Trade Center Freedom Tower's Construction Lights inside the entire building? I just looked at the Earth Cam from Liberty Cams & it seems VERY DIM & Dark. 4WTC is still lit up like how 1WTC used to be. Are they cutting cost on Electric? Anyone know's what's going on? Please Get Back To Me! Thanks! :-) :tup:
The lamps were covered with red gels at order of gov cuomo for cardinal dolan week. It will be back to bare HID bulbs next week.
alan
Zapatan
Mar 16, 2012, 2:15 AM
[QUOTE=CarlosV;5628544]Steel erected!!!!
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7056/6838874198_400fde8e1f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6838874198/)
DSC_0140 copy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6838874198/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr
..and damn that is huge. Although it's not going to have a roof height as tall as other buildings like the International Commerce Centre, or Shanghai WFC, it looks much taller than it is because it has no setbacks, and does not narrow out as much like other buildings (Taipei 101, Burj Khalifa) There's not many buildings in the world with a "solid" roof height
Agreed, but SWFC and ICC both have pretty solid roofs, SWFC from only some angles though. Taipei 101's main mass is about 1300 feet with a fairly thick tower going to 1470. I would say 1WTC is in the same height caliber as T101, Sears, Guangzhou IFC, Kingkey tower, with Jin Mao, Petronas and 2IFC being a bit smaller and SWFC and ICC being substantially but not dramatically bigger.
Either way it's a very massive building, this and 432 park ave plus the other countless developments are going to change NYC forever. :)
NYguy
Mar 16, 2012, 8:25 AM
:order:
Let's keep the discussion on this tower....
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The tower is to the left in the first rendering.
http://www.downtownexpress.com/?p=8094
New Port Authority chief Pat Foye addresses audit, W.T.C. in exclusive interview
March 14, 2012
How is the W.T.C. redevelopment going, in your opinion, both in terms of construction and leasing?
I think we’re beginning to approach the point at which… you can see completion on the near horizon. [One] W.T.C. happily is at the 93rd floor today. I’ve been at the site twice this week, and I’ll be again at the W.T.C. site later today. For a building that’s going to be completed in the fourth quarter of this year or the first quarter of 2013, we’re approximately 55 percent leased, with a number of other prospects in the pipeline. [Meanwhile,] steel is going up on the W.T.C. Transportation Hub and the Oculus building, and significant progress is being made there as well.
NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 16, 2012, 1:06 PM
Whoa they're starting to build that transportation station that looks like a fish skeleton?
crewex
Mar 16, 2012, 3:13 PM
Niceee Carlos!!!!!!!!! I think those core columns extend to 93M (1,223' 6"). The next set of perimeter columns will extend to the 100th floor.
I've read every post here since 2010.....I don't get it.
How are we going to get a jump from 92m to 100 with one steel erection?
Where are the 6 floors in between going?
The beam is going to be 78 ft?
Please explain?
NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 16, 2012, 3:17 PM
I've read every post here since 2010.....I don't get it.
How are we going to get a jump from 92m to 100 with one steel erection?
Where are the 6 floors in between going?
The beam is going to be 78 ft?
Please explain?
You don't know the mezzanine floors? It goes from 93m to 100 there no 94-99
crewex
Mar 16, 2012, 3:21 PM
I knew of the mezzanine floors, there were references awhile back to zen's prints, but it didn't make sense to me at the time.
I've never quite understood the point of skipping floor number. I mean at least they are in numerical order, but the empirical meaning is lost if they skip. Might as well give the floors all Disney character names, or letters of the alphabet.
Roadcruiser1
Mar 16, 2012, 3:23 PM
I knew of the mezzanine floors, there were references awhile back to zen's prints, but it didn't make sense to me at the time.
I've never quite understood the point of skipping floor number. I mean at least they are in numerical order, but the empirical meaning is lost if they skip. Might as well give the floors all Disney character names, or letters of the alphabet.
The mezzaine floors can be counted as a single floor if you want since they are at the height of each office floor. That would give One World Trade Center a total of 101 floors but not 104 or 108 or 110. The base is 20 floors high so it counts as well.
NewYorker2009
Mar 16, 2012, 3:25 PM
I've read every post here since 2010.....I don't get it.
How are we going to get a jump from 92m to 100 with one steel erection?
Where are the 6 floors in between going?
The beam is going to be 78 ft?
Please explain?
We are currently at floor 93 not 92M. The 93rd floor is 1,208' 4" and the 100th floor will go up to 1,240'. The core columns being erected now are at 93M. When 93 gets done or close to done then the perimeter columns would go up to floor 100. The next set of core columns will likely extend up to floor 101 and the perimeter columns will go up to 102. This will probably go on up until the Tower reaches the roof.
uaarkson
Mar 16, 2012, 3:27 PM
It's in the naming. Floor 100 is not actually the 100th floor.
crewex
Mar 16, 2012, 3:30 PM
So we have 4 floors left, and although they are different than previous floors because of the hat truss and topping out, I assume that it i will still take only about 5 weeks? putting us mid april. Right on schedule
NewYorker2009
Mar 16, 2012, 3:41 PM
So we have 4 floors left, and although they are different than previous floors because of the hat truss and topping out, I assume that it i will still take only about 5 weeks? putting us mid april. Right on schedule
Well from here on we have 100, 101, 102, 102M, 103, 103M, 104, 104M, 105, and the parapet that brings it to 1,368'. I would say the Tower will top out in May or June depending on the weather and wind conditions. Not even the construction workers know when it will top out. They might have a schedule and they try to stick to it but they can't control the weather. The schedule has changed for the Tower several times already. At least the Tower will top out so a few more months won't make a difference as long as they are making progress.
NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 16, 2012, 3:57 PM
Soo technically we're on the 80th floor (?) and how is the parapet constructed
SoaringSkylines
Mar 16, 2012, 4:27 PM
Do any of you folks have any recent new pictures from Liberty State Park?
Roadcruiser1
Mar 16, 2012, 6:51 PM
Again I will use Otie's picture to demonstrate the top. All credits go to Otie, but the same questions need to be stopped. The same questions about the top keeps being repeated. The answers are a few pages back. Look back and your questions are answered.
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6141/5959746092_cc2b70e652_b.jpg
babou95
Mar 16, 2012, 7:14 PM
I have a question,
Why they don't make an observation deck at the top of the tower ?
Roadcruiser1
Mar 16, 2012, 7:19 PM
I have a question,
Why they don't make an observation deck at the top of the tower ?
There is an indoor observation deck at floors 100, 101, and 102, but there is no outdoor observation deck because of the telecommunication rings. Same question that has been answered a lot. This one can be found by going back a few pages.
NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 16, 2012, 7:29 PM
Okay here are some new questions that weren't answered:
-What "Real" floor are we at, 80?
-And how will the roof/parapet be constructed?
Roadcruiser1
Mar 16, 2012, 7:53 PM
Okay here are some new questions that weren't answered:
-What "Real" floor are we at, 80?
-And how will the roof/parapet be constructed?
1) 93M and 100 (95 and 96).
2) They will just top it off, and put up the parapet. Even the Twin Towers had one and the same method was done back then. They will just deck it like a normal floor.
THE BIG APPLE
Mar 16, 2012, 8:33 PM
Everyone's making things so complicated when it's not. It's SIMPLE. This building is actually 88 floors. Why? Isn't the lobby/base equivalent to 20 floors? Correct. 20 plus 88 is equal to 108 floors. Hey wait a minute. This building is 108 floors. It's so simple yet made so complicated by people who don't KNOW how to explain.
steveve
Mar 16, 2012, 8:34 PM
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LOVE the geometry of the tower from this angle. it's just perfect. some angles of this tower make it look too fat, too angled, etc... but this is just the perfect balance of slant, and sleekness
SoaringSkylines
Mar 16, 2012, 8:39 PM
Again I will use Otie's picture to demonstrate the top. All credits go to Otie, but the same questions need to be stopped. The same questions about the top keeps being repeated. The answers are a few pages back. Look back and your questions are answered.
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6141/5959746092_cc2b70e652_b.jpg
My goodness! I never realized how close we are to topping out!
jd3189
Mar 16, 2012, 8:40 PM
Everyone's making things so complicated when it's not. It's SIMPLE. This building is actually 88 floors. Why? Isn't the lobby/base equivalent to 20 floors? Correct. 20 plus 88 is equal to 108 floors. Hey wait a minute. This building is 108 floors. It's so simple yet made so complicated by people who don't KNOW how to explain.
Wish it was 110, but 108 is close. If the spire plan is dropped, we could add floors to the spire since it's big enough. Could even add floors in the telecommunication rings. But that's just my imagination.:haha:
NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 16, 2012, 8:54 PM
Wait, won't the building at night look awkward where the office lights meet with the mechanical floors? The building will look cut
Roadcruiser1
Mar 16, 2012, 9:10 PM
Wait, won't the building at night look awkward where the office lights meet with the mechanical floors? The building will look cut
Not really. Credits to WTC.COM.
http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/18_31_dbox_SOL_wtc-icons_revised_May-2011.jpg
http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/18_31_dbox_SPI_T1234_NIGHT_May-2011.jpg
http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/13_36_dbox_99church_dusk_revised%5B1%5D.jpg
More from Dbox. Credits to them.
http://www.cgarchitect.com/content/posts/legacy/DBR/RISING_DBOX_004_sm.jpg
NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 16, 2012, 10:02 PM
https://docs.google.com/viewer?attid=0.1&pid=gmail&thid=1361cc2cf299d841&url=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2F%3Fui%3D2%26ik%3D8e21716ff9%26view%3Datt%26th%3D1361cc2cf299d841%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3Dsafe%26realattid%3Df_gzwa30hk0%26zw&docid=96eec308083d4ee88080ab732d065c78%7C7261fc545b86910b6f4fcc2ceb40c96f&a=bi&pagenumber=1&w=786
Sorry Carlos, I can take it down if you want, but I blended two of your images together from September 2011 until this week to show the progress
Otie
Mar 16, 2012, 10:18 PM
Thanks Roadcruiser for contributing, though there are some points to clear:
Again, Tower One has 85 real floors with 10 mezzanines. They skip floors and designate mainteinance levels as floors in order to reach the 110th mark.
The roof is composed of two elements: the roof slab and the rooftop parapet. The top of perimeter structure will go all the way up to the top of parapet and basically consists of the same type of structure as the rest of the tower.
The rendering you posted is a bit old and innacurate (just look at the communication ring :haha: ). This one's better.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7202/6794164700_c7e738720f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6794164700/)
One WTC | Floor Schedule (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6794164700/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr
NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 16, 2012, 10:27 PM
Otie, when can you do another one of those renderings where it is compared to the Empire State Building, and I think it was 7 wtc? it showed how much was filled in
SoaringSkylines
Mar 16, 2012, 10:45 PM
Where will the window washing machine go? Or will this building even have one?
NYguy
Mar 16, 2012, 10:48 PM
^ It will be up on the "ring".
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Dave84
Mar 16, 2012, 10:49 PM
Does it really need that many mechanical floors? just seems like an awful lot . . . it would be great if from 103 to 104m was open to the public ie restaurant.
Roadcruiser1
Mar 16, 2012, 10:49 PM
Where will the window washing machine go? Or will this building even have one?
And yes this tower will have a window washing machine.
Otie
Mar 16, 2012, 10:55 PM
Where will the window washing machine go? Or will this building even have one?
Yes, it is located just below the communication platform ring. It consists of 3 circular tracks attached to the communications ring supporting frame that will allow three window washing cranes ride on. three The window washing track is the main reason why it is imposible to have an outdoor observation deck.
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6120/6274433612_d07121219e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6274433612/)
Communicatons Platform Ring structure @ 1WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6274433612/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr
*Parapet, catwalks, vents and remaining structural elements not shown.
Does it really need that many mechanical floors? just seems like an awful lot . . . it would be great if from 103 to 104m was open to the public ie restaurant.
I'd say it needs more space for mechanical, this building is self-contained, meaning that it has everything it needs inside the structure, as opposed to the twins that had a big amount of mechanical equipment around them. Add to the fact that it is ment to be one of the greenest and safest skyscraper in the world.
@NYSkyline I'll try to update the diagram :tup:
NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 16, 2012, 10:56 PM
Yes, it is located just below the communication platform ring. It consists of 3 circular tracks attached to the communications ring supporting frame that will allow three window washing cranes ride on. three The window washing track is the main reason why it is imposible to have an outdoor observation deck.
@NYSkyline I'll try to update the diagram :tup:
Awesome :)
Modulair
Mar 16, 2012, 10:57 PM
Correct me if i'm wrong, but as i've undestood, the freedom tower will have around 75 REAL floors.
It's simple to say that the cubic base is 20 floor-high, but actually it has... 6 floors. Not 20.
Same for the floors from 93 to 101: where are they ? even if they have the height of two normal floors, they are not two...
There are not "ghost floors": they are or they are not.
It's like for the eiffel tower: it's 325 meters high, if we thought like the builders of the WTC we'd say "eiffel tower is 70-floor-high so it has 70 floors"...
...eiffel tower has just 3 floors.
the twin towers had 110 real fllors each one...
they were bigger in volume...
Zapatan
Mar 16, 2012, 11:42 PM
Correct me if i'm wrong, but as i've undestood, the freedom tower will have around 75 REAL floors.
It's simple to say that the cubic base is 20 floor-high, but actually it has... 6 floors. Not 20.
Same for the floors from 93 to 101: where are they ? even if they have the height of two normal floors, they are not two...
There are not "ghost floors": they are or they are not.
It's like for the eiffel tower: it's 325 meters high, if we thought like the builders of the WTC we'd say "eiffel tower is 70-floor-high so it has 70 floors"...
...eiffel tower has just 3 floors.
the twin towers had 110 real fllors each one...
they were bigger in volume...
It has 92 real floors, not 75
Zapatan
Mar 16, 2012, 11:44 PM
My goodness! I never realized how close we are to topping out!
Yup, but this picture is a little misleading, the triangle corners will come together right below the communications ring, not 40 feet below
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6141/5959746092_cc2b70e652_b.jpg
jd3189
Mar 17, 2012, 12:07 AM
Correct me if i'm wrong, but as i've undestood, the freedom tower will have around 75 REAL floors.
It's simple to say that the cubic base is 20 floor-high, but actually it has... 6 floors. Not 20.
Same for the floors from 93 to 101: where are they ? even if they have the height of two normal floors, they are not two...
There are not "ghost floors": they are or they are not.
It's like for the eiffel tower: it's 325 meters high, if we thought like the builders of the WTC we'd say "eiffel tower is 70-floor-high so it has 70 floors"...
...eiffel tower has just 3 floors.
the twin towers had 110 real fllors each one...
they were bigger in volume...
This tower has to have larger mechanical floors to fit into the requirements but still needs to be at the same height as the former Twins. We lost some floors, but it wasn't much.
sw5710
Mar 17, 2012, 12:31 AM
Columns are up to 93M or 1,223' 6'' Not floor 100. The twin towers average floor height was 12' Here they are 13, 4'' with very tall mechanical floors so less floors for the same height.
Roadcruiser1
Mar 17, 2012, 12:58 AM
Columns are up to 93M or 1,223' 6'' Not floor 100. The twin towers average floor height was 12' Here they are 13, 4'' with very tall mechanical floors so less floors for the same height.
True. If the Twin Towers were built today their roof height would have been 1474 feet to meet the demands of today's buildings with A class office space and etc. It would have been much much taller, but remember the Twin Towers were ahead of it's time when it was built in the 1970's in terms of structure and etc. Today it would be extremely outdated to build like that.
NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 17, 2012, 1:01 AM
Yup, but this picture is a little misleading, the triangle corners will come together right below the communications ring, not 40 feet below
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6141/5959746092_cc2b70e652_b.jpg
I'm pretty sure the corners line before they hit the roof...
Roadcruiser1
Mar 17, 2012, 1:08 AM
I am just going to post this link for you people that care about the Twin Towers.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/09/09/us/sept-11-reckoning/the-world-trade-center-as-it-was.html
Now can we please stop talking about the Twin Towers? They are gone. You can't compare them to the new World Trade Center.
Otie
Mar 17, 2012, 1:12 AM
Yup, but this picture is a little misleading, the triangle corners will come together right below the communications ring, not 40 feet below
:haha: I get it, you'll never understand.
Zapatan
Mar 17, 2012, 1:54 AM
^huh...?
I'm pretty sure the corners line before they hit the roof...
Nope... This is the most accurate.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7202/6794164700_c7e738720f_b.jpg
davidinasia
Mar 17, 2012, 2:16 AM
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IMHO, this is an awesome picture, one of the best ever on the thousand-plus pages of this thread! The three cranes in formation, and T1 and T4 reaching for the sky.
Thanks to Big Apple for the repost. And also, it raises another interesting question: which one will top out first? With all the delays for T1 but T4 moving along at a very good clip, not to mention being far shorter, isn't it starting to look like T4 will finish its steel first? Anyone care to bet? ;)
sw5710
Mar 17, 2012, 2:16 AM
That post is the most up to date. The corners come to a point at 1,368'
Roadcruiser1
Mar 17, 2012, 2:21 AM
IMHO, this is an awesome picture, one of the best ever on the thousand-plus pages of this thread! The three cranes in formation, and T1 and T4 reaching for the sky.
Thanks to Big Apple for the repost. And also, it raises another interesting question: which one will top out first? With all the delays for T1 but T4 moving along at a very good clip, not to mention being far shorter, isn't it starting to look like T4 will finish its steel first? Anyone care to bet? ;)
It will be Tower 1. Tower 4 has lost it's second crane due to an accident and construction has slowed down a lot.
Otie
Mar 17, 2012, 3:28 AM
The upper corner nodes are located at the roof slab elevation, above that the perimeter columns extend to the parapet to provide support for the curtain wall. Again, the super diagonal columns get joined at the roof slab, not at the parapet, the stainless steel corners do get joined at the parapet.
As requested.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7207/6988930833_bdd1909564_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6988930833/)
One WTC | Diagram Update | March 16th, 2011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6988930833/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr | Larger version (http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/5512/1wtc160312.jpg)
NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 17, 2012, 3:36 AM
The upper corner nodes are located at the roof slab elevation, above that the perimeter columns extend to the parapet to provide support for the curtain wall. Again, the super diagonal columns get joined at the roof slab, not at the parapet, the stainless steel corners do get joined at the parapet.
As requested.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7054/6842720036_e76fc0736e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6842720036/)
1 WTC | Diagram Update | March 16th, 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6842720036/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr | Larger version (http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/5512/1wtc160312.jpg)
Oh my God I love it! This is great :)
sw5710
Mar 17, 2012, 3:49 AM
Otie: Have you seen other info that has floor 93M at 1,223' 6'' not 1,230' 6''
Otie
Mar 17, 2012, 4:21 AM
Da f*ck just happened there! Oops, database error.. already fixed :tup:
SoaringSkylines
Mar 17, 2012, 4:25 AM
You know they say spiders grow bigger and faster at the top floors of the 1,127 ft John Hancock Center! I can't even imagine how big they are going to be on top of the 1,373 ft WTC! :haha:
sw5710
Mar 17, 2012, 4:48 AM
[QUOTE=NewYorkSkyline117;5629067][QUOTE=CarlosV;5628544]Steel erected!!!!
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7056/6838874198_400fde8e1f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6838874198/)
DSC_0140 copy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6838874198/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickrd
If you look at the column on the right near the top you can see the spot where the beams for 93M connect.
NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 17, 2012, 4:53 AM
Wait te top if the structure as of today is 1,234 feet as in your diagram otie or 1,223 feet?
THE BIG APPLE
Mar 17, 2012, 6:19 AM
Where will the window washing machine go? Or will this building even have one?
This will have one, BUT unlike the Twins which had custom made washers, this one will have a simple standard window washer, since the facade isn't so complex.
NYguy
Mar 17, 2012, 12:41 PM
Sharing this rendering from the Hudson Yards thread... (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=187315)
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/142115958/original.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/142115959/original.jpg
PeetThePhotographer (http://www.flickr.com/photos/peet/6989580731/sizes/l/in/photostream/)
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http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7039/6843456774_d4fe41ac4e_b.jpg
CarlosV
Mar 17, 2012, 1:10 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7049/6843612356_9bc79ba523_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6843612356/)
DSC_0141 copy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6843612356/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr
THE BIG APPLE
Mar 17, 2012, 2:25 PM
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http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7044/6987472365_3074c083b5_b.jpg
In this photo 1 WTC looks like it's saying Hi to the cam.
hunser
Mar 17, 2012, 2:31 PM
A tiny bit old but still worth it...
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7070/6989580731_ba27de17e2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/peet/6989580731/)
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QUEENSNYMAN
Mar 17, 2012, 3:19 PM
Nice pictures everyone! Thank you so much.
http://www.youtube.com/user/NYBOY75?feature=mhee
NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 17, 2012, 3:21 PM
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Both Tower 1 & Tower 4 look great in this picture...4 WTC is really rising higher. I doubt that one will take until July to top out
Noll
Mar 17, 2012, 4:51 PM
Check out these breathtaking pics from WTC Progress on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/wtcprogress):
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/423769_276041932473052_1046503195_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/419139_276041395806439_109423129134934_617455_603993022_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/417705_276039219139990_109423129134934_617453_881992564_n.jpg
Roadcruiser1
Mar 17, 2012, 5:50 PM
Here is a picture taken from the air on WTC Progress on Facebook.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/425328_275981862479059_109423129134934_617370_518885310_n.jpg
QUEENSNYMAN
Mar 17, 2012, 7:12 PM
FROM: NYBOY75
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mouQ6-_L2T8&list=UUhtU7A62TdyRVQm8CsdVwBw&index=1&feature=plcp
marshall
Mar 17, 2012, 8:19 PM
Those views are simply amazing. They look just like the views from the Twin Towers. And we aren't even up to the observation deck floors yet! Can't wait to see pics from those floors!
DrNest
Mar 17, 2012, 10:00 PM
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One WTC | Diagram Update | March 16th, 2011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6988930833/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr | Larger version (http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/5512/1wtc160312.jpg)
Thanks for posting this image. I think it's the most informative I've seen regarding WTC1 in comparison to two other iconic buildings in America. It also gives me a clear idea as to how the observation decks on these buildings relate to those in the CN Tower too. Something I've been curious about for a while.
jd3189
Mar 17, 2012, 10:45 PM
:previous: Judging from the graph,I'll say it will at least be 2 more jumps of steel until 1 WTC is officially the new tallest building in NYC. Like I said a while back, let's hope this is the first successor of the ESB that will not be taken away from us.
Roadcruiser1
Mar 17, 2012, 11:12 PM
Those views are simply amazing. They look just like the views from the Twin Towers. And we aren't even up to the observation deck floors yet! Can't wait to see pics from those floors!
Nope. 93M is where we are at right now. Floor 100 and 101 is next. These are the observation floors. It would be followed by 102 and 102M. They are also observation floors.
chris123678
Mar 17, 2012, 11:48 PM
Is it safe to assume that base cladding should begin next week?
In a previous pic, the boards were being removed.
NYguy
Mar 18, 2012, 12:28 AM
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THE BIG APPLE
Mar 18, 2012, 1:23 AM
Those views are simply amazing. They look just like the views from the Twin Towers. And we aren't even up to the observation deck floors yet! Can't wait to see pics from those floors!
The view will be about the same. Now you wouldn't enjoy looking out of a 2,000 foot tower in NYC would you. That's why people like the Top of the Rock a bit more than the ESB's observatory. People like being surrounded at the same level/height of buildings around them, not to hover above all of that.
SoaringSkylines
Mar 18, 2012, 2:35 AM
The view will be about the same. Now you wouldn't enjoy looking out of a 2,000 foot tower in NYC would you. That's why people like the Top of the Rock a bit more than the ESB's observatory. People like being surrounded at the same level/height of buildings around them, not to hover above all of that.
I feel the opposite. The higher, the better. It's just a thrilling thought in ones mind of being 2,000 ft high than 1,373 ft high.
NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 18, 2012, 3:27 AM
Yea then you feel like you're not part of the world anymore. What I love about the empire state buildings is that its almost like a getaway without actually leaving the city. Its isolated from the city life with just the wind and the faint sound of car honks below
Roadcruiser1
Mar 18, 2012, 3:36 AM
There is a floor and a staircase within the spire but it is only going to be used for maintenance and nothing else. Plus thanks to Otie we can see inside the spire.
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6234/6236979630_00dce50af5_b.jpg
And no there will not be a 2,000 footer in New York at least not anytime soon. Plus this building can't go to 2,000 feet. In architecture and engineering you learn that a building can only be designed to reach a specific height once started, and construction is almost done so the design or the height can't be changed. Except for the spire which Durst is trying to do, but people don't really like it and are protesting about it.
QUEENSNYMAN
Mar 18, 2012, 7:09 AM
FROM: NYDAILYNEWS.COM
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/exclusive-incredible-photos-top-iconic-1-world-trade-center-skyscraper-rises-gallery-1.1038352
Davidsam52
Mar 18, 2012, 12:28 PM
FROM: NYDAILYNEWS.COM
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/exclusive-incredible-photos-top-iconic-1-world-trade-center-skyscraper-rises-gallery-1.1038352
Nice photos! definitely worth the look! Thanks for posting the link:tup:
NYguy
Mar 18, 2012, 1:43 PM
From that Daily News article...
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/reclaiming-york-city-iconic-view-top-world-article-1.1039659?localLinksEnabled=false
Freedom Tower reclaims New York City's iconic view from top of the 'World' ten years after 9/11
Trade Center tower is about to pass Empire State Building as city's tallest
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1041709!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/image.jpg
By Douglas Feiden
March 18, 2012
One World Trade Center is soaring into the stratosphere at such breathtaking speed that it will rise above the roof of the Empire State Building in four to six weeks — and claim its crown as New York’s tallest building.
The cloud-buster known to most New Yorkers as the Freedom Tower, its original name, hit the 93rd floor just six days ago — and at a dizzying 1,208 feet above street level, it’s now the city’s second tallest skyscraper.
The return of the Trade Center to dominance of the city’s skyline honors the 3,000 innocents massacred on 9/11 and fulfills a city, state, regional and national commitment to reclaim what Al Qaeda tried to erase, says Port Authority Executive Director Pat Foye.
“The iconic Twin Towers we lost can never be replaced,” he said as two dozen workers clambered across the girders to ring the building with a massive blue protective cocoon. “But here we are standing 1,200 feet above the streets of Manhattan, watching the steel installed for the 93rd floor, and we’re seeing a new iconic World Trade Center that will light up the skyline for decades to come.”
It’s a view the world will enjoy from 1,269 feet in early 2014 when the tower’s three-level observation deck on the 100th, 101st and 102nd floor opens to the public.
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MadGnome
Mar 18, 2012, 2:18 PM
Yea then you feel like you're not part of the world anymore. What I love about the empire state buildings is that its almost like a getaway without actually leaving the city. Its isolated from the city life with just the wind and the faint sound of car honks below
A little off topic, but before you die, you need to go to the ESB observation deck on an overcast day when the deck is above the clouds. It will be empty because everybody thinks it's not worth going and all you'll see is the tops of the tallest buildings in poking above a brilliant white sea of clouds.
It's like going to the beach in the winter when it's snowing. You see an incredibly beautiful sight that not one in a thousand people ever see because they never stray from the beaten path.
The outdoor deck on the old WTC was like that. If people couldn't see it from the ground they wouldn't go up because they'd figure there's no view. And they'd miss a view that could make a platoon sargent cry.
alan88
Mar 18, 2012, 2:34 PM
great video on the daily news website of the iron workers
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/reclaiming-york-city-iconic-view-top-world-article-1.1039659#ooid=I4bmc1NDq-G-HpyOn3uemw7nXZzI-Gyq
Fluffybagel
Mar 18, 2012, 3:31 PM
:previous:
I read that it the paper this morning, it made front page news. Glad to see 1wtc is getting some appreciation from the press!:banana:
NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 18, 2012, 3:47 PM
A little off topic, but before you die, you need to go to the ESB observation deck on an overcast day when the deck is above the clouds. It will be empty because everybody thinks it's not worth going and all you'll see is the tops of the tallest buildings in poking above a brilliant white sea of clouds.
It's like going to the beach in the wiinter when it's snowing. You see an incredibly beautiful sight that not one in a thousand people ever see because they never stray from the beaten path.
The outdoor deck on the old WTC was like that. If people couldn't see it from the ground they wouldn't go up because they'd figure there's no view. And they'd miss a view that could make a platoon sargent cry.
I've always wanted to do that...good to know thanks
Roadcruiser1
Mar 18, 2012, 3:50 PM
It's a great article but I can't stand those stupid comments on the NY Daily News page. Idiots.
NewYorkDominates
Mar 18, 2012, 4:14 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/exclusive-incredible-photos-top-iconic-1-world-trade-center-skyscraper-rises-gallery-1.1038352?pmSlide=7
SoaringSkylines
Mar 18, 2012, 4:27 PM
It's a great article but I can't stand those stupid comments on the NY Daily News page. Idiots.
Possibly the funniest comment I read in there:
"This building is frightening. Why so high? It just increases the temptation for terrorists to strike again. And the Freedom Tower name sure doesn't help. Crazy."
Plokoon11
Mar 18, 2012, 4:37 PM
Thats strange when I hit the last page of this thread it takes me back to the construction subforum.
jd3189
Mar 18, 2012, 4:50 PM
Possibly the funniest comment I read in there:
"This building is frightening. Why so high? It just increases the temptation for terrorists to strike again. And the Freedom Tower name sure doesn't help. Crazy."
Yep, there are still people who don't know even a tiny bit about what's going on right now. But that aside, come April, and 1 WTC will be even more famous then it is right now, being the tallest in the city since 9/11.
NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 18, 2012, 5:00 PM
So it's going to take til the end of April to surpass it?
SoaringSkylines
Mar 18, 2012, 5:08 PM
Thats strange when I hit the last page of this thread it takes me back to the construction subforum.
Just had that problem too.
NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 18, 2012, 5:20 PM
Yeah same here, idk why it's doing that but thank God somelone last posted in this forum because then you can click the "Last Post" forum page
jd3189
Mar 18, 2012, 5:48 PM
So it's going to take til the end of April to surpass it?
It could take within April to surpass the ESB, because of the delays. They just need at least two more jumps of steel to accomplish that.
QUEENSNYMAN
Mar 18, 2012, 6:32 PM
:previous:
I read that it the paper this morning, it made front page news. Glad to see 1wtc is getting some appreciation from the press!:banana:
"Yes" Thank god!
http://www.youtube.com/user/NYBOY75
IntoTheLens827
Mar 18, 2012, 7:24 PM
"Yes" Thank god!
http://www.youtube.com/user/NYBOY75
I did buy todays paper after I found out it was on the Front Page! Thanks Guys! The pictures & video looks GREAT! :-) HI JOE! :-)
The Imster
Mar 18, 2012, 7:28 PM
I cant believe thatthe construction costs of this tower is the same as 3, yes THREE Shangai World Finanical Centre towers!
hunser
Mar 18, 2012, 7:47 PM
I cant believe thatthe construction costs of this tower is the same as 3, yes THREE Shangai World Finanical Centre towers!
Labour, material, safety features, political shitstorms, you name it- everything is more expensive. ;)
NewYorkDominates
Mar 18, 2012, 8:19 PM
"Thank you to the truthful commentator who said this is "a patheitc waste of space." You should be working for the news media, instead of people who think they can magically make everyone out there la-de-da and whoop-dee-doodles over an erection (looks like it from Jersey) of political corruption, malice against NYC and those who love her, and animosity in general: the "triumph" of the undead over the living. Chalk this middle finger, not against Osama & Co., but against all things bright and lovely: brought to us by the same people who refuse to bury the remains lying out in the Fresh Kills garbage dump."
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/reclaiming-york-city-iconic-view-top-world-article-1.1039659#ixzz1pVAEZNQJ
This guy is an idiot.
ChiSoxRox
Mar 18, 2012, 9:11 PM
I just came back from five days in New York, my first time there, and I stayed in Tribeca right at the 1-2-3 Chambers Street station, so every day going out of the hotel I'd look up and the top of 1WTC would be visible far above me. Seeing this building in person was pretty magical. As well, I love that from so many vantage points around Broadway in Tribeca and SoHo the two most prominent buildings are this one and the Woolworth: age and youth, decoration and function, thin tower and broad skyscraper...
I have a few pictures of 1WTC on a camera; if I can figure out how to get them on here, I'll post them.
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