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[wong21fr]

The Freedom Tower will be done in about four years. The old WTC towers took about 8 years to complete. But that time also included a hell of a lot of excavation.

It's not that long of a construction schedule for the FT, people just don't seem to realize that construction only began last year.

[Daquan13]

And also, the Twins more than likely took longer because new challenges came up and had to be resolved practically while the towers were being built.

[aluminum]

Hi
Exactly how many floors will this building have ?

[BrandonJXN]

^ 102

[Daquan13]

But not all of them will be used for office / public space.

[M.K.]

who cares, when the bldg never comes to reality?

[Daquan13]

Another Freedom Tower hater.

[CoolCzech]

Another Freedom Tower hater.


Not really... he's more like a reality denier. The tower is happening before his eyes, but he prefers to not believe them.

[nygirl1]

He's one of those dubai humpers. Shame we will still be building them tall in 2015.

[RockMont]

Another Freedom Tower hater.



He'll adapt to it. It won't be until it is completed that it will start to really grow on me, but I already like it.

[Daquan13]

Not really... he's more like a reality denier. The tower is happening before his eyes, but he prefers to not believe them.



Yeah, you're right. Most see it being built but won't accept it, and in so doing, they mentally block it out of their minds and sight.


Denial begins to set in and they won't accept things as planned.

[DUBAI2015]

Could somebody post a picture of the Freedom Tower site weekly?
Because the Earthcam thingy doesn't work for me.

[Ghost]

http://www.earthcam.net/users2/interface.php?i=0&id=445&projectid=202&clientid=158
That's not working? Well, here's pic from yesterday
http://i18.tinypic.com/4pp1ovn_th (http://i16.tinypic.com/4pp1ovn.jpg)

[ontheroad]

Can't wait for this one...

[M.K.]

Another Freedom Tower hater.
I do not hate it, in opposite I like it if it would be already built, instead of having this lazy job there. If for you a site and 2 cranes are already a building, then my mind goes not that fast to immagine and ejaculate in my eyes the reality yet. I believe in real and takes too long this being real.

[CGII]

I do not hate it, in opposite I like it if it would be already built, instead of having this lazy job there. If for you a site and 2 cranes are already a building, then my mind goes not that fast to immagine and ejaculate in my eyes the reality yet. I believe in real and takes too long this being real.


Unless either a nuclear bomb goes off in New York or the stock market crashes (or a nuclear bomb goes off in the stock market) this is going to be a reality.

[Daquan13]

I do not hate it, in opposite I like it if it would be already built, instead of having this lazy job there. If for you a site and 2 cranes are already a building, then my mind goes not that fast to immagine and ejaculate in my eyes the reality yet. I believe in real and takes too long this being real.




Sorry I said that you hate it, but the thing is being built now. What more do you expect?

Sure, it took five years to get the tower started on the road to being built, but think of it this way. In about four more years, the tower should hopefully be open or about to open for business.

[BrandonJXN]

Lol..he said ejaculate in my eyes.

But seriously..this is going to be a minute. So don't come to this thread each and every day expecting drastic updates. Not for about 6 more months or so. Just learn how to be paitent.

[ZZ-II]

next crane should come soon i think

[DUBAI2015]

and ejaculate in my eyes


Ow! That's got to burn!

[CarlosV]

http://i9.tinypic.com/6421sie.jpg

[DUBAI2015]

Thanks for the picture. Every week or so, could somebody post it.

[Rnr_ss]

Thanks for the picture. Every week or so, could somebody post it.

http://www.earthcam.net/users2/interface.php?i=0&id=445&projectid=202&clientid=158

;)

[Sol_Invictus]

http://www.earthcam.net/users2/interface.php?i=0&id=445&projectid=202&clientid=158

;)

Wow, thanks for the link dude. :tup:

[newstl2020]

That's the single funniest thing I've ever read in a forum. I can't believe that actually happened.

I swear to God I'm trying to focus on the thread.... AH CAN'T!

[Realthang]

There is a large concrete pour going on today on the west side of the FT. Looks like the foundation is almost done!!

I suppose the next thing is to build the supports for the steel columns on the west and east (and north?) sides so that the steel columns can be erected.

After that, upwards and onwards?

[aluminum]

How high will be the observation deck ?

[RockMont]

It'll be as tall as the original one.

[aluminum]

http://www.earthcam.net/users2/interface.php?i=0&id=445&projectid=202&clientid=158
Any idea how much time we may have to wait to see the thing rising up on the construction site?

[Daquan13]

Next year.

That is when we'll see the steel start to rise above street level.

Realthang, from what I heard, the entire steel base is supposed to be encased in concrete. But I don't think that will start happening until more steel arrives for the base.

[Milllos]

They´re just starting with deconstruction of south staircase at south tower. There is a black wall around it. ;)

[Milllos]

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/8616/jjmz2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[GVNY]

Kaaba!

[Daquan13]

I never even knew that was still there!

[Realthang]

Hmmmm, over by the survivors staircase they have constructed a very large crane... purpose???

[Daquan13]

You must be thinking of the machine that is used for lowering the rebar grids into the trench for the slurry wall?

[Realthang]

You must be thinking of the machine that is used for lowering the rebar grids into the trench for the slurry wall?

No... this is a new crane that they constructed Sunday (today). Its a red crane that has a triple length boom. Long enough to reach the far end of the temporary subway station?

[Daquan13]

Haven't seen it yet. Do you have a pic of it that you can upload?

[Realthang]

Haven't seen it yet. Do you have a pic of it that you can upload?

First try at picture posting... be gentle. The crane is at the right side of the screen and extends up almost the entire right side of the screen. Starts near the survivors staircase.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1235/539976225_76fe26e790_m.jpg

[Realthang]

Freedom Tower has a willing captive
Julie Earle-Levine, New York
June 07, 2007

MARC Colella knows a thing or two about pressure cooker work environments. The Melbourne-born structural engineer is in charge of New York's Freedom Tower, being built on the World Trade Centre site.
The Freedom Tower, also known as Tower 1, will be 105 storeys tall with a 120m spire, and will project the city's image of resilience after the September 11 terrorist attacks.

Colella's client for the tower is the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, and the architect is David Childs of Skidmore, Owings and Merrill.

The huge rebuilding project at the World Trade Centre site - where four new office towers, memorials and a Performing Arts Centre designed by Frank Gehry - is well under way.

As an associate for WSP Cantor Seinuk Structural Engineers Colella, 34, is working hard to ensure the Freedom Tower delivers the architect's vision. He is also overseeing three office towers, or 555sqm of offices, for developer Larry Silverstein, a memorial site and a structure to retain the Hudson River and the force of soil on the site. "After the destruction of the towers there is a 20m deep basement, what we call the bathtub, in that part of Manhattan.

"We have a huge involvement in the WTC rebuilding. The only area the company is not involved in is the transportation hub by architect Santiago Calatrava," Colella says.

Colella was working in London when the WSP Group acquired US company Cantor Seinuk, now WSP Cantor Seinuk. "I always wanted to develop a career in high-rise buildings, and I was offered the job."

He started working in 2002 on Building 7, the third building that collapsed, just north of the WTC site.

Colella heads a large team of engineers - about 10 on the Freedom Tower alone, and spends much of his time in offices overlooking the site.

"It can be difficult. It is an emotionally charged environment, but I tell my team this is just another building, and we have to get on with the job. I tell them not worry about the political aspects, or the emotions.

"I say, work with me guys, please. Don't feel that it is just an event that happened on American soil."

Colella often attends meetings about the memorials, involving families of people who died in the terror attacks.

"The memorial design has taken a long time but is finally moving forward. Most families have approved it, some individuals don't like it, but I think it is a fabulous design."

The foundation at the Freedom Tower is almost finished. "That is always a nervous time for a structural engineer and now all of our work is being constructed," Colella says. Public complaints about the long lead time have been frustrating.

"People are upset but they don't realise the infrastructure below street level is incredibly complex," Colella says. "A lot of agencies are involved, and a lot of interests."

Colella says criticism by some developers that the Freedom Tower is a mistake, or a legacy of poor planning and decision making, is unfortunate. "The architects involved in all of these towers are the best in the world, assembled to showcase their artistic style on one of the highest profile sites in the world. I like to call the site an architectural sculpture park."

The architects for Silverstein's three towers are Britain's Sir Norman Foster and Sir Richard Rogers, and Japanese architect Fumihiko Maki (of Maki and Associates).

There will be restaurants, below-ground shopping and access to subway trains, as well as the World Financial Centre in the Freedom Tower. Hotel developers are planning new hotel rooms that will help to revitalise Lower Manhattan.

There are also plans for new streets, footpaths, parks and transportation. The area remains a central business district, as big investment banks move back. Goldman Sachs is building a new, 186,000sqm headquarters in nearby Battery Park City, but the area is becoming more of a residential community than it was. According to the Downtown Alliance, a business group, the residential population has grown by 16,000 to 39,000 since the attacks.

Freedom Tower is expected to be completed in 2011 - on September 11. "We are still on target for that, but there won't be any construction above street level until the middle of next year," Colella said.

Does he lose sleep over the impending deadline? "Constantly. It is not a normal project, it is intense and we are working around the clock. When you pass a major deadline or submission, something bigger comes up, but it is a challenge. Aussies can do that, I am up for it."

Copyright - The Australian

[Ghost]

Hmmmm, over by the survivors staircase they have constructed a very large crane... purpose???
Yeah. That is HUGE. I've never seen such a big crane!
Here's a better picture:
http://i14.tinypic.com/53elgfr.jpg
http://www.earthcam.net/users2/interface.php?i=0&id=445&projectid=202&clientid=158

[Daquan13]

Ok, now I see the big red crane, which I haven't seen before, but I STILL DON'T KNOW what it's intended purpose is. There's also a smaller red crane on the other side of the old WTC stairway. Ah, no, I think that'll be the same size as well.

But I think they were set up to help move the stairway, since some of the officials want the thing to remain intact. The old WTC Arctifacts Advocates have complained that they want it saved. It's supposed to be lifted and moved to another spot somewhere at Ground Zero, I believe.

Realthang, how were you able to post your first pic? I've been wanting to do that for the longest time, but never knew how to. Send me a pm on it, please. Thank you.

[Realthang]

Today Big Red is lifting steel onto the roof of the old WTC parking garage remnant/subway tunnel roof beside the temp transit hub. Looks like Big Red needs to carry the steel beams over a wide distance, hence the massive boom size. I would also assume that the crane will position and hold the steel while they are being bolted to the superstructure.

Picture posting: See FAQ above... in summary, you need to post your picture to a web site like flickr, then provide an http image link from that site when composing your reply. Hopefully, my next picture will provide more detail!

[M.K.]

This third crane seems to be an autocrane and it is really huge. Now we have 4 ones, 2 fixed, 2 auto. Something is going to happen there, finally... or they are going to collect cranes there.... Sorry, I did not retain myself.
One thing is sure, big structures are going to be moved there.:)

[nygirl1]

bad pic from wintergarden, yesterday:

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/5867/p1010031cq1.jpg

[BayRidgeFever]

Thanks for all the photo updates nygirl

[DMAG]

Today Big Red is lifting steel onto the roof of the old WTC parking garage remnant/subway tunnel roof beside the temp transit hub. Looks like Big Red needs to carry the steel beams over a wide distance, hence the massive boom size. I would also assume that the crane will position and hold the steel while they are being bolted to the superstructure.

Picture posting: See FAQ above... in summary, you need to post your picture to a web site like flickr, then provide an http image link from that site when composing your reply. Hopefully, my next picture will provide more detail!

Is the steel for the FT or for something else?

[Realthang]

Is the steel for the FT or for something else?

I believe that the steel is part of the platform D project or the transit hub project. It doesn't appear to have anything to do with the tower directly. You can see that they have removed the tops of some of the old columns that were protruding from the parking garage floor after 911. It looks like these columns will extend what remains of the old columns. This only seems to apply to the area of the temp subway station.

[Daquan13]

Yes, the steel IS for something else.

The steel for the Freedom Tower will trickle in slowly, mainly one or two pieces at a time, until next year when it starts coming by the boatload and the tower will then really kick off.

[CarlosV]

just heard on tv, that JP morgan Chase will move to a new tower on the site of the old Deustche bank...it will be a 47 story tower....

[borgo100]

JP Morgan Chase Agrees to Stay in Manhattan


NEW YORK (AP) -- JP Morgan Chase & Co. agreed long ago to become the first private company to occupy office space at the World Trade Center site. But negotiations over tax incentives and other perks went on for months, officials have said -- and the bank suggested it would leave New York for Connecticut or New Jersey if an acceptable deal couldn't be struck.

1010 WINS AUDIO: John Montone Reports

JP Morgan has now reached an agreement to build and move into one of five planned office towers at ground zero, with a hefty package of state and city incentives, officials announced Thursday.

"We have proven once again that downtown Manhattan is the epicenter of global capital,'' Gov. Eliot Spitzer said at a news conference.

Spitzer said the incentives, which were around $100 million, are similar to those given other companies.

JP Morgan, one of the country's largest banks, will pay $300 million to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey for rights to build a 40-plus-story tower for more than 6,000 employees.

The bank will receive a 92-year lease for the building, which is expected to open in the next five years.

A year ago, the Port Authority took over development of this fifth tower and the 1,776-foot Freedom Tower, which is under construction, from private developer Larry Silverstein. But since Spitzer took office, the agency has explored the sale of one or both towers to the private sector.

JP Morgan will build its tower on the spot where a vacant skyscraper heavily damaged in the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks now sits. The former Deutsche Bank building -- plagued by contamination, the discovery of human remains and a recent construction accident -- is being taken down floor by floor. Officials have said it will be removed by the end of this year.

The 1.3 million-square-foot tower will include seven cantilevered trading floors. Community officials had objected to the design, saying it would cast shadows over the neighborhood and on the spot where a Greek Orthodox church plans to rebuild.

JP Morgan would relocate thousands of its investment banking employees from its main midtown Manhattan location and from several downtown locations.

The incentives it received to move include tax breaks and a deal reducing the price of its power supply.

The tower is the last planned to replace more than 10 million square feet of office space destroyed in the Sept. 11 attacks.

The Freedom Tower is expected to open in 2011. Three others towers, to be built by Silverstein, are expected to open between 2011 and 2013

[Daquan13]

just heard on tv, that JP morgan Chase will move to a new tower on the site of the old Deustche bank...it will be a 47 story tower....



It'll be a 50-story, I believe.

[CarlosV]

It'll be a 50-story, I believe.


I just read in the Post it will be 57.. :)

[Daquan13]

Maybe you're right. 7 WTC will be the shortest one.

[Daquan13]

Maybe you're right. 7 WTC will be the shortest one.:tup:

[Scruffy]

i think now its down to 40st, but hopefully still taller than 7wtc

[Daquan13]

7 WTC is 52 floors.

[sask1982]

Is there going to be a building 6??

[Daquan13]

No word on that, but I would tend to think that it would be the museum, if it's still going to be built.

All the other buildings have numbers and street addresses.

[Daquan13]

No word on that, but I would tend to think that it would be the museum, if it's still going to be built.

All the other buildings have numbers and street addresses.:tup:

[RockMont]

Is that, that little bitty box, next to the Tower of Freedom?

[Milllos]

Ground zero - first steel above the ground ( At big red crane) :tup:

[Ghost]

http://i18.tinypic.com/52352tg.jpg

[M.K.]

Oh...

Congratulations. Finally work there is going to be seen getting higher...:rolleyes:

[CarlosV]

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7363/703.jpg

[CarlosV]

JUNE 17, 2007

some progress but not much...i had a good time walking thru the construction site.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/Picture045.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/Picture046.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/Picture050.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/Picture058.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/Picture059.jpg

here it is the "infamous" staircase....i used it many times....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/Picture060.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/Picture048.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/Picture057.jpg

[Patrick]

Ooh.

[Rise To The Top]

Carlos, how did you get that staircase photo? You sneak into the site?

[CarlosV]

^

this fat security guard was opening the gate for the chinese delivery man...so i was fast!!!! :)

[CarlosV]

:shuffle: :shuffle:

in case you don't know..this is the architect



Mr. David Childs

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/RG_childs.jpg

[pattali]

Thanks a lot Carlito for these photos. Looking At Ground Zero at real time is incredible.

Thanks for the photo about the staircase!

[CoolCzech]

Nice to see that the Deutsche Bank building has gotten noticeably shorter...

[CarlosV]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/Picture060.jpg

Stairway surrounded

When Downtown Express last visited the site in August, the 175-ton “Survivors’ Stairway” sat alone in open space. Last week, it was surrounded by equipment. Plate said there are three or four different construction projects within 10 feet of the stairs. He didn’t say it was slowing down the work but did say “we need to get it out of the way.”

The stairs once led from the W.T.C. plaza to Vesey St. and some survivors ran down them to escape the trade center complex on Sept. 11. The L.M.D.C. had proposed breaking up the stairs to save a remnant for the memorial museum and incorporate a piece in the Tower 2 entrance. Gov. Spitzer objected to the L.M.D.C. plan and his Empire State Development Corp. has been searching for a site to store the stairs intact.

Stairway proponents argue that since it is the only public W.T.C. remnant that is still on the site and was the last leg of survivors’ run to safety, it should be preserved entirely. Opponents counter that just the cost of moving it intact from and then back to the site would be over $2 million and that displaying it on the memorial plaza would create the mistaken impression that it was damaged by the collapsing towers. The stairs were damaged during the cleanup of the site.

Errol Cockfield, a spokesperson for Empire State, said the agency is moving quickly toward a decision but he did not know if it would be made in a matter of weeks. He did not comment on whether Battery Park City’s Site 2B, which residents hope will be the site of a new school, is under consideration to store the stairs.

Sayar Lonial, a senior aide to Councilmember Alan Gerson, told C.B. 1 members Tuesday that “it sounds like they will be putting the stairs on Site 2B.” He said E.S.D.C. has given assurances the stairway won’t remain on the site long enough to interfere with school construction. Lonial said he’s inclined to believe the promise because unlike the Pataki administration, Spitzer’s aides “don’t just say things to make us happy.”

Gerson and Spitzer are Democrats and Pataki is a Republican.

[NYguy]

They should just remove that "staircase" in the middle of the night. No one will notice its gone, and no one will really care.

[NYguy]

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7363/703.jpg


I must have missed all the complaints about the height difference between Freedom and tower 2...;)

[liat91]

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[CarlosV]

They should just remove that "staircase" in the middle of the night. No one will notice its gone, and no one will really care.

you are probably right....:jester: :jester: what a waste of money...

[Daquan13]

http://i18.tinypic.com/52352tg.jpg



Ghost, I think that this pic that you posted on the previous page shows the start of the new memorial museum.

Constr., I think, has begun on it. At least that is what it appears to be.

[ramvid01]

Ghost, I think that this pic that you posted on the previous page shows the start of the new memorial museum.

Constr., I think, has begun on it. At least that is what it appears to be.

Thats going to be the temp entrance to the PATH I believe, the one that will be used after the one being used now (yes its confusing, th ere are 2 temporary ones).

[RockMont]

It's encouraging to say the least.

[nygirl1]

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7363/703.jpg

I like how beekman tower is added to this shot.

[Daquan13]

Thats going to be the temp entrance to the PATH I believe, the one that will be used after the one being used now (yes its confusing, th ere are 2 temporary ones).



Funny. I WAS going to say that. But why on earth is another temp station entrance needed? One is in use already.

Is the present one sitting in the spot where Tower 2 will be put?:shrug:

[Ghost]

No, I think it's sitting on where the "permanent" station entrance will be. And that's the thing, they have build the permanent station. If anyone understand what I'm talking about.

[WonderlandPark]

Amazing Manhattan rendering.

Hope this ALL gets built. With JP Morgan building their own, are the other WTC towers still viable?

[M.K.]

They should just remove that "staircase" in the middle of the night. No one will notice its gone, and no one will really care.

I agree, let's blow up this stairs for ever that is going to disturb all. Nobody will notice and keeping this reminds of old shits is quite idiot.

[NYguy]

http://www.nysun.com/article/57033

Construction Costs Could Rise as Mega-Projects Increase Demand

By ELIOT BROWN
June 21, 2007

http://www.nysun.com/pics/57033_main_large.jpg

Almost 50 million square feet of publicly administered development are scheduled to start in the next few years, increasing the demand, and the cost of building, materials. Above, the Freedom Tower site.



Developers could see construction costs rise at an even faster rate in coming years, as the city's megaprojects substantially increase demand on a sector already flooded with work, industry officials say.

With prices escalating for building materials, this could test the strength of the historic construction boom, which has persevered despite the rising expenses.

"The demand is going to get much greater, and we have to do a lot of work to do everything we possibly can to moderate the effects of increasing levels of construction," Deputy Mayor Daniel Doctoroff said yesterday. "Everywhere, we feel the impact of rising construction costs — that's the big public projects, it's the private sector projects."

Spending on construction has reached all-time highs for the past three years — the New York Building Congress estimates that spending exceeded $24 billion in 2006 — even though the bulk of the city- and state-administered large-scale projects conceived in the past decade have yet to begin, most of which are scheduled to start in the next two to three years.

Between the World Trade Center, Moynihan Station, Atlantic Yards, the Hudson rail yards, and Willets Point in Queens, almost 50 million square feet of publicly administered development are scheduled to start in the next few years — the equivalent of about 20 Empire State Buildings going up at the same time. Add to that the more than $12 billion projected for the no. 7 line subway extension, the first phase of the Second Avenue subway, and the Trans-Hudson Express project for a new NJ Transit tunnel to Pennsylvania Station, and the flurry of activity is sure to drive up the need for construction workers and materials, likely causing prices to jump.

"As you have all this work going on, there's an increased economic pressure on labor," the assistant executive director of the General Building Contractors of New York State, Joseph Hogan, said. Wages of unionized construction workers tend to be steady for years at a time due to bargaining agreements, though Mr. Hogan said the trend in wages will surely be sent upward by the city's big projects in coming years.

The industry is already seeing a shortage of project managers, a problem that will be exacerbated in coming years, according to the president of the Building Trades Employers Association, Louis Coletti. "You can't manufacture a project manager overnight," he said.

The spike in development could send local prices for construction materials such as concrete up as well, the chief economist at the Associated General Contractors of America, Kenneth Simonson, said.

Already, developers and public agencies have been socked with soaring expenses for construction, as demand from rapidly expanding markets in India and China has caused skyrocketing prices of materials such as copper.

Total construction costs have gone up by as much as 1% a month, builders say, pushing developers to move briskly and forcing public agencies to scale back plans for new buildings.

"Every month-delay that we have, we estimate that we have a $9.5 million escalation hit," the chief of administration for the $1.8 billion United Nations Capital Master Plan renovation project, Vivian van de Perre, said.

For private developers, construction officials say, project price tags are sent up even further by the city's rapidly rising land values, which, like raw material costs, show no sign of slowing their growth.

With a mind to future price hikes, a spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, Steven Coleman, said the agency has already handed out about $1 billion in contracts for the $2.8 billion Freedom Tower.

"We're trying to award contracts as early as we can," Mr. Coleman said.

While the towers at the World Trade Center site are generally on budget, plans for the Santiago Calatrava-designed PATH transit hub are estimated to cost as much as $1 billion more than the $2.2 billion planned for the facility, and the Frank Gehry-designed Performing Arts Center has been repeatedly scaled back as its price tag has climbed hundreds of millions over budget.

[CoolCzech]

Anyone know what the total square footage of office space in the new WTC complex, including Tower 5, will be? Just wondering if all the original footage will finally be fully recaptured...

[CoolCzech]

They should just remove that "staircase" in the middle of the night. No one will notice its gone, and no one will really care.


I keep hoping some hung over bulldozer operator forgets to set the handbrake on his machine...

[Daquan13]

Anyone know what the total square footage of office space in the new WTC complex, including Tower 5, will be? Just wondering if all the original footage will finally be fully recaptured...



Have not heard anything new or different on that.

As far as we know, it's still going to be 10,000 sq. ft. of office space so far.

[beanhead4529]

Have not heard anything new or different on that.

As far as we know, it's still going to be 10,000 sq. ft. of office space so far.

10,000 sq. ft!?!? i hope you mean 10,000,000 or else i'm gonna get extremely pissed. and maybe a bit confused.

[Rise To The Top]

10,000 sq. ft!?!? i hope you mean 10,000,000 or else i'm gonna get extremely pissed. and maybe a bit confused.

WTC is going to be the size of both my houses? wth? must be 10,000,000.

[Daquan13]

No.

You're BOTH wrong. Last time that I checked, it's supposed to be 10,000 sq. ft. of office space.

The same amount of office space that the former WTC had.

[winst69]

Daquin Sorry but your wrong.

Each floor of the towers had 40,000 square feet of space for occupancy.
Each tower had 3.8 million square feet (350,000 m²) of office space.

Altogether the entire complex of seven buildings had 11.2 million square feet

[NYguy]

I keep hoping some hung over bulldozer operator forgets to set the handbrake on his machine...

I'm surprised somebody hasn't done that already. A practical solution to an impractical problem...:)

[Daquan13]

Daquan Sorry but your wrong.

Each floor of the towers had 40,000 square feet of space for occupancy.
Each tower had 3.8 million square feet (350,000 m²) of office space.

Altogether the entire complex of seven buildings had 11.2 million square feet



How do you figure that? Floor space is not counted. Just office space.

Silverstein and the officials had officially confirmed that the total amount of office space lost on 09-11 was 10,000 sq. ft., give or take several sq. ft..

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought it was 10,000 sq. ft.. Maybe it was just for the Twins.

[winst69]

The complex, located in the heart of New York City's downtown financial district, contained 13.4 million square feet (1.24 million mª) of office space, almost four percent of Manhattan's entire office inventory. During the 1990s some 500 companies, especially financial firms, had offices in the complex, including Morgan Stanley, Aon Corporation, Salomon Brothers, and the Port Authority itself.

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[Dalton]

I'm surprised somebody hasn't done that already. A practical solution to an impractical problem...:)

What you need to do is paint "Meigs Field" on the staircase and then have Richard Daley come for a visit. :haha:

[Daquan13]

The complex, located in the heart of New York City's downtown financial district, contained 13.4 million square feet (1.24 million mª) of office space, almost four percent of Manhattan's entire office inventory. During the 1990s some 500 companies, especially financial firms, had offices in the complex, including Morgan Stanley, Aon Corporation, Salomon Brothers, and the Port Authority itself.

Quoted from www.wtc911.us



Cantor Fitzgerald also occupied office space there as well.

But you're right, it might be 10,000,000 sq. ft. of office space. We just need confirmation, which I was trying to get, but still haven't yet.:shrug:

[Daquan13]

Ok, it was 15 million sq. ft. of office space that was lost.

Sorry, my bad.

[Jay in Cowtown]

JUNE 17, 2007

some progress but not much...i had a good time walking thru the construction site.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/Picture045.jpg




Yes!!!