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donybrx
Dec 22, 2006, 9:52 PM
UGH.

Why do the marketing troglodytes persist on appealing to the people who will eventually appear and suck, suck suck every vestige of the beauty, simplicity and naturalness out f they places they target.....?

Here's a quote for ya :yuck:
Robert Uguccioni, the executive director of the bureau, said: “We represent 2,400 square miles, and we can’t make everybody happy. But we have a lot of members in Pike County who want to continue being part of the Poconos product.”

Say what? Poconos Product?

And this one: :slob:

As Mr. Strub put it, “We need to be marketing the things we treasure.”


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December 22, 2006
Just Don’t Call it the Poconos
By FRED A. BERNSTEIN
A YOUNG man in a crisp beige uniform asks if I’d like the waterfall turned on. I nod, and in seconds a cascade is falling over my shoulders into a crescent-shaped soaking tub. From there, a second waterfall descends into another tub, which overlooks a swimming pool, which opens onto another soaking tub — this one outdoors, beneath a canopy of trees.

This is the Poconos, and I’m surrounded by small pools. Not one of them is heart shaped.

Northeastern Pennsylvania, long known for honeymoon motels, is sprouting chic new destinations. They include the Fauchère, a hotel in Milford restored with a rich mix of 19th- and 21st-century amenities, and the Lodge at Woodloch, a richly appointed destination spa in Hawley.

Prices are high. At Woodloch, the rooms start at $450 a night per person — in the off-season. The owners, John Lopis and Ginny Michel Lopis, trained at the Canyon Ranch in Tucson and other world-class spas before going out on their own. Thirty miles away, at the Fauchère, rooms start at $275. The hotel’s owner, Sean Strub, said his business model is the Inn at Little Washington, the fabled foodie destination in rural Virginia.

But neither the Canyon Ranch nor Little Washington is in the Poconos, a region best known for affordable family vacations. That’s why both Mr. Strub and the Lopises are determined to avoid the word Poconos in their marketing.

“We prefer ‘Pocono Mountains’ to the nickname ‘Poconos,’ ” Mr. Lopis said.

Mr. Strub avoids the P-word altogether, having personally renamed the area around his hotel the Delaware River Highlands. After all, Mr. Strub said, “You get who you market to.”

Mr. Strub, who has flown friends in from Manhattan on a borrowed helicopter, wants to reach out to the most discriminating travelers. But somewhat gallingly to Mr. Strub, he doesn’t have complete control over how the Fauchère, and Milford, are marketed. He is required to pay 3 cents of every dollar in room fees to the Pocono Mountains Vacation Bureau, which promotes four counties of eastern Pennsylvania, one of which is Pike County, which includes Milford.

Most of that area — the other counties are Monroe, Wayne and Carbon — is a lot less upscale than the Fauchère and Woodloch. The region already has a giant water park, and it will soon get another, at the Camelback Ski Resort. And this week the State Gaming Control Board approved the installation of 5,000 slot machines at Mount Airy Lodge in Monroe County.

Moreover, Mr. Strub said, lumping Milford with the rest of the Poconos “makes people think we’re farther than we are.” In fact, his establishment is less than 75 miles from New York; the trip takes only 90 minutes, even without a helicopter.

IN contrast to Monroe County to the south, with its water parks and large family resorts, Pike County is largely rural, thanks to state and federal parkland and private enclaves like the Blooming Grove Hunting and Fishing Club, with more than 20,000 acres. Driving the narrow roads from the Fauchère to Hawley, at the other end of the county, I saw lots of waterfalls and brooks but not a single subdivision.

Mr. Strub said he would like to see the county stay unspoiled, and that means, among other things, getting out from under the Poconos “brand name.”

So Mr. Strub founded the Pike County Visitors Bureau, as a challenge to the Pocono Mountains Vacation Bureau. His David, he said, has only $10,000 to spend each year, compared with Goliath’s $7 million. But it also has his powers of persuasion.

“Pike County was never called the Poconos until fairly recently and some of the old-timers resented it when they started calling it the Poconos,” Mr. Strub said. “I’ve got an entire shelf of northeast Pennsylvania history books, a number of which address this.”

Now Mr. Strub is considering running for county commissioner, which would give him leverage over the vacation bureau.

Robert Uguccioni, the executive director of the bureau, said: “We represent 2,400 square miles, and we can’t make everybody happy. But we have a lot of members in Pike County who want to continue being part of the Poconos product.”

Complicating matters, John Kiesendahl, an officer of the bureau, is also an owner of the Lodge at Woodloch. That puts the Lopises in the middle of the dispute, though you’d never know while visiting their spectacularly quiet destination.

To avoid the room rate at Woodloch, I chose a daily spa package that included an afternoon’s use of the facilities, a massage and dinner for a relatively affordable $300. After a surprisingly demanding water aerobics class, I was escorted to a large underground complex of treatment rooms for a massage, which began with my choice of “massage butters”: relaxing, revitalizing or warming. Then I was led to the Whisper Lounge, a retreat with a crackling fire and a selection of Mighty Leaf teas.

My only quibble with the place was that the men’s locker room, with leather wing chairs and inlaid wood tables, looks so much like a living room that I felt uncomfortable taking my clothes off.

The guests I encountered said they were amazed at the level of service. Maria McLaughlin of Franklin Lakes, N.J., who described herself as a seasoned spagoer and who was celebrating a friend’s 40th birthday at Woodloch, said the last spa she had been to, Canyon Ranch at the Venetian in Las Vegas, “was nice, but didn’t even compare to Woodloch.”

Thirty miles closer to Manhattan, the hotel opened by Louis Fauchère in 1852 has been brought back to life by Mr. Strub. An Iowa native and a longtime Manhattan businessman, he was given a diagnosis of AIDS in 1985. Since then, he has devoted much of his time to AIDS activism. In 1994 he founded Poz, a magazine for people living with H.I.V. or AIDS, which he sold in 2004.

In the mid-1990’s, he began spending weekends at Milford, which has a rich history and superb buildings by such architects as Calvert Vaux and Richard Morris Hunt. One example, the Fauchère, an Italianate hotel long known for its distinctive red-and-white-striped awnings, had closed in 1976 and parts of the building had deteriorated.

Mr. Strub bought the building in 2001, and he and a business partner, Dick Snyder, oversaw the restoration of the public spaces. Thousands of pieces of old wood were numbered, removed, refinished and reinstalled, all under the supervision of historic preservation experts.

He also helped design 16 luxurious guest rooms, complete with feather beds and Frette linens. The bathrooms, which mix Italian marble and Pennsylvania bluestone, are startlingly beautiful.

Other parts of the hotel are boldly contemporary. In Bar Louis, photos by the Hilton Brothers (the Manhattan artists Christopher Makos and Paul Solberg) hang over the walls of anigre wood.

Among the offerings on the menu from the chef Michael Glatz (formerly of the Inn on the Blue Horizon in Vieques, P.R.) is a sushi pizza — a crust of sushi rice, refrigerated, then coated in tempura batter and flash-fried, finally topped with cubes of raw tuna and tobikko ($15).

At the same time he was restoring the Fauchère, Mr. Strub was taking on several civic projects in an attempt to help the town, where, he said, “Many worthy businesses were languishing.”

Besides starting the visitors bureau, he founded Milford Magazine, helped launch yearly film and music festivals and raised money for the Milford Enhancement Committee. “We’ve spent over $3 million ripping up blacktop, putting in old bluestone sidewalks and installing Colonial-style pedestrian lighting,” he said.

Unlike Mr. Strub, who is a newcomer to the hotel business, Woodloch’s owners, the Lopises, have been running spas for more than two decades. But this is their first time as owners. The lodge cost $37 million, or nearly $640,000 a room, to build. If the spa itself is nirvana, the 58 guest rooms are ordinary, and the restaurant still has a few kinks to work out.

Still, after an hour of massage and a visit to the Whisper Lodge, an overnight stay may seem downright affordable. In fact, after the Fauchère opened, Mr. Strub sent his stressed-out chef, Mr. Glatz, to Woodloch for a few days of spa treatments.

It was a vacation for Mr. Glatz, as well as an act of diplomacy by Mr. Strub, who is counting on support from the Woodloch’s owners for his Pike County Visitors Bureau, with its focus on nature and history rather than water slides and slot machines.

As Mr. Strub put it, “We need to be marketing the things we treasure.”

passdoubt
Dec 23, 2006, 8:29 AM
These people should all be shot.

mja
Jan 20, 2007, 2:37 PM
Funny, I stayed at the Fauchere with my wife over the holidays and I actually met Mr. Strub.

It is a little difficult for me to criticize him. It is quite evident that he really cares about Milford and has decided to put all his energy and money into restoring some of its old charm.

donybrx
Jan 20, 2007, 2:53 PM
^^^ what'd he pay ya? :)

(joshing..thanx for the first hand info.)

I'm still having trouble getting past the... "we need to be marketing the things we treasure...", comment of Strub's, however.

mja
Jan 20, 2007, 6:30 PM
^^^ what'd he pay ya? :)

(joshing..thanx for the first hand info.)

I'm still having trouble getting past the... "we need to be marketing the things we treasure...", comment of Strub's, however.

I think what he meant by that, and it is evident if you visit Fauchere, is that we need to market the things we treasure (historic Milford) if we want them to survive.

He has painstakingly - along with his partner - restored Fauchere from a vacant converted office building into a very luxurious and charming small hotel, spending obscene amounts of money in the process on what could possibly end up as a fool's errand.

I just think he fell in love with a small, quaint, historic town that has become increasingly irrelevant and is trying to preserve a certain way of life.

donybrx
Jan 20, 2007, 8:04 PM
He would have sounded less crass and needed no explanation had he said instead...."We need to share the things that we value.....". Believe me i am solidly behind efforts to preserve, protect and maintain anything worthy from the past....and in that context I am forever wary of the seamier side of contemporaneous 'marketing'..... said generally and not in connection with this fellow....