NEW YORK | 30 Park Place (99 Church St) | 937 FT / 285 M | 82 FLOORS

[NYguy]

Obviously not the same crane.

Currently, there's no crane on site.

[JACKinBeantown]

I took a good look this morning and the crane I'm seeing is much closer to Bleecker, so obviously it's another building (and shorter).

[RoldanTTLB]

I took a good look this morning and the crane I'm seeing is much closer to Bleecker, so obviously it's another building (and shorter).

I think you might be looking at the crane for the Grand something something hotel something (SOHO Grand... haven't taken a photo since March)? Uhh, let's see...

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_3T08TVQ0h2g/SkYPvmI3pJI/AAAAAAAACYc/XMa9Zp40zwc/s800/DSC01099_2.JPG

I guess maybe sorta: http://curbed.com/archives/2009/02/24/goodnight_moon_sohos_grand_street_hotel_revealed.php

[JACKinBeantown]

Judging by the fact that people are wearing jackets in that photo, it must be a few months old. So the crane would be several floors higher by now and peeking over 100 Avenue of the Americas (right behind the crane). So I think you're right. Thanks.

Oh shite! That's where the Moondance Diner was. (For non - New Yorkers, that's wear Spiderman's non-girlfriend worked as a waitress in the first movie.)

[RoldanTTLB]

Judging by the fact that people are wearing jackets in that photo, it must be a few months old. So the crane would be several floors higher by now and peeking over 100 Avenue of the Americas (right behind the crane). So I think you're right. Thanks.

Oh shite! That's where the Moondance Diner was. (For non - New Yorkers, that's wear Spiderman's non-girlfriend worked as a waitress in the first movie.)

Indeed it is:
http://curbed.com/archives/2007/10/12/where_moondance_fell_bracks_grand_hotel_will_rise.php

And I think it's here now (how sad):
http://gothamist.com/2008/01/07/moondance_1.php

[vandelay]

The architect of record SLCE has some new renders of 99 Church on their website:

http://www.slcearch.com/hospitality-entertainment/99-church-street/

Looks great. They better build it.

[NYguy]

The architect of record SLCE has some new renders of 99 Church on their website:

http://www.slcearch.com/hospitality-entertainment/99-church-street/

Nice...

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[Antares41]

Nice! it has a stately elegance to it. Looking forward to its construction.

[Gulcrapek]

Dunno... still looks too flat to me. Some slight vertical recesses on the tower would make a difference.

[scalziand]

^^ It might be the difference in detail between the base and the tower that makes the tower look flat. I agree that if the tower actually is that flat, I will be slightly disappointed. The way it is now, the windows are perfectly flush with the rest of the facade, and that seems a tad unrealistic.

Is it me or does this seem to be begging for a crown+spire? Also, the second render makes the Barclay tower fit in the new cluster better.

[hunser]

^^ It might be the difference in detail between the base and the tower that makes the tower look flat. I agree that if the tower actually is that flat, I will be slightly disappointed. The way it is now, the windows are perfectly flush with the rest of the facade, and that seems a tad unrealistic.

Is it me or does this seem to be begging for a crown+spire? Also, the second render makes the Barclay tower fit in the new cluster better.

indeed, this one needs a spire! and i don't think it's that flat, the pictures play a trick on us.

[antinimby]

In this city, residentials rarely get spires. Every square inch of space on that penthouse roof will be marketed to bring in the largest buck.

[Yo Na]

This tower is beautiful. I know some people are going to miss the great views of the woolworth but i think Park Place and the Woolworth compliment each other in a great way. Park Place will subtly connect the woolworths classic design to the neighboring ultra modern towers of the world trade center, a soft segway between classic and modern. Cant wait.

[Dac150]

Walked by the site yesterday, nothing has changed, at least nothing that can be seen from the street.

[NYguy]

This tower is beautiful. I know some people are going to miss the great views of the woolworth

This tower won't block the Woolworth, at least the part of the tower most people recognize. The lower part of the western side of the Woolworth isn't much to look at anyway. This tower brings the classic residential Downtown.

[RoldanTTLB]

Walked by the site yesterday, nothing has changed, at least nothing that can be seen from the street.

I walk by this guy every morning, and they are definitely still working on the foundation (a couple earth mover type pieces have been taking out quite a bit of dirt). That said, the construction fence is a veritable fortress, and they always have these incredibly mean looking security guards walking around shooing people in the morning. I'll try to sneak a shot through the only hole I know of (at the entrance on the south side of the site) sometime later this week.

[Yo Na]

Agreed the tower can still be viewed from the other three sides with great views from the adjacent park, there are those that have grown a liking towards the woolworths less known yet equally beautiful western side and yes the woolworth will now be blocked in some well known locations. I was just stating that fact that views will be blocked and some will now have a different tower to look at, cant argue with fact. personally i welcome this amazing new tower and like I said to those who will miss the woolworth from their office / apartment views, they are getting a beautiful replacment that compliments the woolworth...ny guy dont you live in nj? you guys got the western side of the woolworth in your views, im sure some of your fellows will be missing it? what say you?

[NYguy]

I was just stating that fact that views will be blocked and some will now have a different tower to look at, cant argue with fact.

The fact is, the point at which the view of the Woolworth will be blocked is so narrow as to not even be comment worthy. You've wasted 2 of your 6 posts.

[vandelay]

Several points:

1. Tower Verre and this tower, if they are constructed, will be the #1 and #2 tallest residential buildings in the city.

2. This tower is so lean that the blocked views are hardly worth mentioning. At most angles, it'll form a much more picturesque group with Barclay and Woolworth.

3. It brings back the classic lean masonry tower to the downtown skyline, which has been swallowed up by the huge midcentury and onward glass boxes.

On all points it's a worthy addition.

[Yo Na]

The fact is, the point at which the view of the Woolworth will be blocked is so narrow as to not even be comment worthy. You've wasted 2 of your 6 posts.

Very nice. You have shown everyone that you got pretty thin skin for a NY guy. Ok so you feel the blockage of view from park place isnt comment worthy, thats nice. Dude I know you love the forum but they got a moderator to judge that, maybe just flag it....just stating facts. How about that guy working in the top of 7 wtc in the north east corner who loved staring at the wooolworth from his office to survive the boredom of his job that now will not have that view to daydream into. Im sure that this guy has nothing to be bothered with bec. like you said, park place will only block a narow portion...wrong. how about the jock who plays soccer on the weekends at the field off Murray st and west st. He had the woolworth tattood on his right arm after years of looking up at the woolworth from center field, shame....dude how do you make such a broad statement like that. there are countless people that might feel that they are losing something grand. here comes the opinion...i think they are getting a tower that is an elegant addition to the skyline and although it cant replace the woolworth, itss as close as you will ever get. lesson learned, never tattoo your fav. view in NYC on your arm. ny guy good night, peace out.

[NYguy]

Very nice. You have shown everyone that you got pretty thin skin for a NY guy.

No, I just don't like trolling, as you obviously are. So we'll leave it at that and end your fascination with the view of the Woolworth.

[CoolCzech]

Nice...

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Beautiful indeed. I know Beekman is getting all the architectural attention, and perhaps deservedly so. Nevertheless, this is one cool tower - so evocative of Old New York.

[philvia]

that render is a bit deceiving isn't it? the difference between the buildings seems much less than 150ft

[RoldanTTLB]

Still founding...

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_3T08TVQ0h2g/SmCMiwmVtAI/AAAAAAAAC7M/vtauFPfFlcM/s800/DSC01825.JPG

[vandelay]

It might be a long wait until construction recommences:

*The following information was last updated on July 17, 2009.

* Foundation work concluded in July 2009
* Superstructure construction is likely on hold for one year, through mid-2010. A new completion schedule will be posted here upon announcement.

http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/99_church_street_33450.aspx

[RoldanTTLB]

It might be a long wait until construction recommences:

*The following information was last updated on July 17, 2009.

* Foundation work concluded in July 2009
* Superstructure construction is likely on hold for one year, through mid-2010. A new completion schedule will be posted here upon announcement.

http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/99_church_street_33450.aspx

I hate to call out lowermanhattan.info, but they might be the least accurate source of information about Lower Manhattan I've ever seen. I'd sooner trust a group like Crain's. That said, this thing is on hold until TS has a construction loan, so we'll see when that happens.

[NYguy]

I hate to call out lowermanhattan.info, but they might be the least accurate source of information about Lower Manhattan I've ever seen.

They have a closer ear to the source than most, so the informations is likely something they were told. At any rate, we've know this tower would be on hold until financing became available, and Silverstein seems to be more focused on the WTC mess.

[Yo Na]

bummer...had it coming.

[RoldanTTLB]

So this is one of the more active "on hold" sites in the city. They were pouring again on Wednesday, and there are workers on the site every day. The only problem I have with the site is how incredibly hard it is to get pictures without breaking in to one of the neighboring towers. In any event, here's a few through the fence. It's a clean foundation, not unlike where Beekman sat for some time before kicking it into high gear.

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[Lecom]

Beautiful indeed. I know Beekman is getting all the architectural attention, and perhaps deservedly so. Nevertheless, this is one cool tower - so evocative of Old New York.

Stern knows what the hell he's doing. He ain't Costas.

[RoldanTTLB]

They may finally have squared the foundation on this one up and put it to bed. As of yesterday morning, the lane on Church St. that had been taken up for staging is clear and the traffic pattern is back to normal. That means it's likely there won't be much action for a while. I'll keep an eye out for workers, but after the pour a few days ago, I suspect they're waiting for someone to show them the money.

[Dac150]

Though it may take some time something will go here. Honestly I rather Silverstein focus most of his attention on something else that I think we can all agree is more important. I always viewed this tower as an added bonus, but it can wait.

[RoldanTTLB]

In the immortal words of Counting Crows, "Let's go shut it down." Talk about a clean foundation. It'll be a little before anything happens here...

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_3T08TVQ0h2g/SnuKE8eMDMI/AAAAAAAADEI/OiEDLUoUucA/s800/DSC01943.JPG

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[CGII]

Though it may take some time something will go here. Honestly I rather Silverstein focus most of his attention on something else that I think we can all agree is more important. I always viewed this tower as an added bonus, but it can wait.

I'm not sure it's fair to say Silverstein can or should just focus on one or the other, 99 Park and WTC cater to totally different markets despite their proximity and just because 99 Park isn't taking off doesn't mean whatever finances are in place to get it built can (or should) be scuttled to the WTC. Besides, the money for 99 Park is like a pebble in the ocean compared to the WTC.

[Zapatan]

This tower is fabulous, hopefully it still has a fighting chance!

[Ordo_]

The massing is vaguely acceptable, but other than that I just think its ugly myself...hardly a worthwhile building in my opinion.

[Zapatan]

I wonder what the odds of this thing getting built are

[RoldanTTLB]

I wonder what the odds of this thing getting built are

The chances are relatively high that something reasonable will be built here, whether it is this design or not, or this developer or not. There aren't many bare foundations lying around NYC (there are a few right now because of the whole boom bust thing), largely because it's a great first step towards a building and they're so easy to reuse.

In other news, here's a GREAT photo care of curbed:
http://curbed.com/uploads/2009_8_99church.jpg

[Zapatan]

Yea for sure, I just wonder how this developer and this specific project are doing, no news isn't necessarily bad per say, hopefully they can build this.

[NYguy]

Yea for sure, I just wonder how this developer and this specific project are doing, no news isn't necessarily bad per say, hopefully they can build this.

Nothing is expected to be done on this site until next year, at least as far as Silverstein is concerned.

[Zapatan]

Well he does have the whole WTC do deal with, that's pretty understandable. However I suppose no news at this point is good news, if it's not cancelled maybe it will get built eventually, or at least something tall.

[NYguy]

http://www.tribecatrib.com/news/2009/august/305_arrested-developments.html

Awaiting Megadollar Loans, Grand Plans Lie Fallow Downtown

By Carl Glassman
Sep. 01

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Three giant towers on the World Trade Center site are not Larry Silverstein’s only Lower Manhattan mega-projects starved for financing. Just one block away is 99 Church Street, where work is at a standstill on a 912-foot Four Seasons Hotel and condominium. The tower, to contain 175 hotel rooms on the first 22 floors and 143 condo apartments above, was to “top out” early next year and be completed a year later. But only a construction fence rises there now. It encircles a recently poured foundation where the former Moody’s headquarters was demolished for the billion-dollar edifice, designed by Robert A.M. Stern.

“We are actively seeking the financing. It’s just not available,” said Janno Lieber, Silverstein’s executive in charge of construction for 99 Church Street as well as the company’s World Trade Center projects. “We’re passionate about getting that building done, so as soon as we can get the money, we’re going to build it.”

[Zapatan]

Cross our fingers, this building's one of my all time favorites

[scalziand]

“We’re passionate about getting that building done, so as soon as we can get the money, we’re going to build it.”

As they should be. It's a great building in a great location.:tup:

[Wheelingman04]

What the hell:hell:

[NYC2ATX]

With all the projects mentioned in that article than NYGuy posted (see 50 West Street and 56 Leonard threads as well), I found one thing all these projects have in common. None of them are canceled. All of them have a foundation poured or are seeking financing, but none of the developers building these projects have totally given up yet. I'm happy to know that, while there may not be actual progress, there is still optimism and hope. :tup:

[NYguy]

Yeah, its good to know that these towers are still hot items. When the money to build begins to spill again, we'll pick up where we left off.

[NYguy]

http://lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/99_church_street_33450.aspx

The following information was last updated on September 10, 2009.

-Foundation work concluded in July 2009

-Superstructure construction is likely on hold for one year, through mid-2010

-A new completion schedule will be posted here upon announcement.

-Contractor to replace sidewalk on Park Place and a section of Barclay Street roadway; schedule TBA

[NYC4Life]

Won't be long before we actually see above grade construction, or so it seems.

[Zapatan]

sweet deal then, this tower is great

[NYguy]

Won't be long before we actually see above grade construction, or so it seems.

???

Superstructure construction is likely on hold for one year, through mid-2010

[NYguy]

http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_340/silversteinbreaks.html

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By Julie Shapiro
October 30 - November 6, 2009

Silverstein also gave a brief update on 99 Church St., the fenced-off site next to the Woolworth Building that was supposed to be an 80-story condo and hotel tower run by the Four Seasons. Silverstein stopped construction on the tower this summer after finishing the foundation because he could not get a loan to continue building above street level.

“We’re going to have to be patient,” Silverstein said. “Four Seasons’ attitude is, ‘Hey, whenever it comes, it comes. We’re there, we’re ready.’”

Silverstein said he feels the same way and he expects to get a loan in 2011 and finish the building in 2013 or 2014.

[scalziand]

At least the Four Seasons is being patient with Silverstein. Would it kill the tower if they pulled out?

[Dac150]

Those are surely very reassuring statements that basically lay down the line that the environment isn’t currently appropriate to build, however when they get the opportunity they’re going to hit the ground running.

If the Four Seasons was to pull out there’s probably a good chance of a design change; however I don’t think that they will. I believe everyone is at peace with the current environment and isn’t pushing for outcomes that just aren’t currently feasible.

[NYguy]

At least the Four Seasons is being patient with Silverstein. Would it kill the tower if they pulled out?

I don't think it would...

http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_248/fourseasons.html

Four Seasons says Downtown’s time is now

http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_248/seasons.gif

By Julie Shapiro
Feb. 1 - 7 , 2008


Four Seasons will run a 175-room hotel and 143 condominiums in a brand-new tower at 99 Church St. The first 22 stories of the 80-story building will house the hotel, including a restaurant, lounge, spa and pool. Luxury condos will fill the rest of the building and will feature penthouses, terraces and the residents’ own fitness center.

“Four Seasons’ decision to join in the transformation of Downtown is a huge sign of change,” said Silverstein, president and C.E.O. of Silverstein Properties. “But it’s also a vote of confidence in Downtown’s historic role as a world-class business district.”

“We knew it was the right time for a second Four Seasons in New York,” said Kathleen Taylor, president and chief operating officer of Four Seasons. The city’s other Four Seasons, on 57th St. in Midtown, just completed its most successful year yet, which bodes well for an expansion, Taylor said.

I think it's Silverstein who has to be patient, which he is.

[NYguy]

Superstructure construction is likely on hold for one year, through mid-2010


As the new year rings in, let us hope that this is the year this one finally marches skyward. All is quiet and still at the site, but it's at least ready to go.

JANUARY 1, 2010

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[NYC4Life]

That site has given pretty realible updates, so hopefully they are right this time when assuming construction will resume in 6, or so months.

[Dac150]

From what I can make of Silverstein he is seemingly a ‘cut to the chase’ and old school type of guy, so when the opportunity is right I’m sure we’ll see a tower crane peaking out of this hole. I view this one as just a matter of time.

[Zapatan]

I'm really excited about this tower, It's tall and thin with nice beige cladding like an old art deco tower yet very modern at the same time. It also looks like it will certainly be built. Good news


Happy new year everyone

[NYguy]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/15/arts/design/15vogel.html

Bringing Some Whimsy to Construction Sites

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Maya Barkai/ADA Art Consulting and Elinor MilchanMaya Barkai's “Walking Men 99” at 99 Church Street
in the financial district has 99 versions of the international “walk” sign.

By CAROL VOGEL
January 14, 2010


Although it has been more than eight years since the World Trade Center attack, every day it seems there are more cranes and concrete trucks, scaffolding and chain-link fences as Lower Manhattan struggles to rebuild. According to the Alliance for Downtown New York, a nonprofit business-improvement-district group, an estimated $30 billion worth of construction is going on at 190 sites below Canal Street.

Now some of it is getting dressed up.

“The area is experiencing construction fatigue and, for a lot of people, it’s been a jarring experience,” said Elizabeth H. Berger, president of the alliance. “At the end of the day while these are improvements that advance Lower Manhattan, in the short term it’s tough.” The construction potentially affects about 314,000 people who work in the area, 54,000 who live there and more than 5 million who visit the area every year.

So Ms. Berger is using art to improve daily life. With materials like fencing or construction barriers as a canvas, she said, she hopes to create “a little cheer, whimsy and excitement.”

The art program was first tested with 10 projects since 2007, but many no longer exist. Now five new ones are about to take their place. Overseen by dealers, consultants or curators, each was selected from proposals reviewed by an advisory committee of neighbors, arts professionals and public officials. The projects are being paid for with a $1.5 million grant from the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation.

“We cover the cost of the installation, the maintenance, and we give a fee to the artists and consultants,” Ms. Berger said. The works will be up for varying periods depending on construction site conditions.

For more than five days the New York artist Katherine Daniels and her team have been weaving colorful ribbonlike vinyl through a chain-link fence. The patterns, although geometric, are evocative of stems and vines. The installation also includes brightly painted spools, lids and flanges woven into 54 fences that surround the East River Esplanade project. “The project allows you to see through the fence to the East River,” said Karin Bravin, the dealer who runs the BravinLee Programs and has organized the installation. “Our goal is to be finished by Friday.”

On Saturday a crew of 10 will start putting up another work, this one at 99 Church Street, where a 912-foot-tall residential and hotel tower — the tallest in New York — is being developed, although the project is in limbo pending financing. The Israeli-born photographer Maya Barkai has created “Walking Men 99.” Fascinated by the walking-figure symbol that accompanies traffic signals around the world, she has composed a series of 99 examples of them marching side by side that will cover a plywood wall surrounding the property.

“Maya realized that not only does the symbol exist in every city, but she discovered that many of them are different,” said Ayelet Danielle Aldouby, a curator for ADA Art Consulting in Manhattan, which has organized the project. “In Dresden there is a walking girl and in Fredericia, Denmark, a soldier. East Berlin has a little man wearing a hat.” She also has images of the silhouette of Hans Christian Andersen, the traffic symbol for Odense, Denmark, and Sophie, a pony-tailed female traffic sign in Utrecht, the Netherlands.

“Maya established a Web site where she asked people to submit photographs of walking men all over the world,” Ms. Aldouby added. “And then she put them together by city.” The project will be on view for a year.

[NYguy]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/15/arts/design/15vogel.html

Bringing Some Whimsy to Construction Sites

On Saturday a crew of 10 will start putting up another work, this one at 99 Church Street, where a 912-foot-tall residential and hotel tower —
the tallest in New York — is being developed, although the project is in limbo pending financing. The Israeli-born photographer
Maya Barkai has created “Walking Men 99.” Fascinated by the walking-figure symbol that accompanies traffic signals around the world,
she has composed a series of 99 examples of them marching side by side that will cover a plywood wall surrounding the property.


I can live with it...

JANUARY 29, 2010

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[evanmack]

That is a really cool idea, the plywood idea I mean, so when will probably be starting to be built?

[NYguy]

That is a really cool idea, the plywood idea I mean, so when will probably be starting to be built?

Whenever they get financing.

[RoldanTTLB]

Don't read too much into this, but they had the New Building permit updated/renewed but DOB on 1/8. This is interesting, since they didn't have to do this at all, but it's now good for another year. The site is clean and incredibly ready to be built on, so when they decide to go, it's going to go fast.

[NYguy]

I'll take their word for it...

“We are actively seeking the financing. It’s just not available,” said Janno Lieber, Silverstein’s executive in charge of construction for 99 Church Street as well as the company’s World Trade Center projects. “We’re passionate about getting that building done, so as soon as we can get the money, we’re going to build it.”


I don't think they would have started if they weren't fully commited to getting this built. The financing problem is worldwide.

http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_340/silversteinbreaks.html

Silverstein also gave a brief update on 99 Church St., the fenced-off site next to the Woolworth Building that was supposed to be an 80-story condo and hotel tower run by the Four Seasons. Silverstein stopped construction on the tower this summer after finishing the foundation because he could not get a loan to continue building above street level.

“We’re going to have to be patient,” Silverstein said. “Four Seasons’ attitude is, ‘Hey, whenever it comes, it comes. We’re there, we’re ready.’”

Silverstein said he feels the same way and he expects to get a loan in 2011 and finish the building in 2013 or 2014.

We'll just have to watch the other large towers going up a couple of blocks away in the meantime.

[Dac150]

Considering the nations tallest building is rising just a couple blocks away, plus everything else, I think we have more than enough to keep us occupied for now. It’s obvious both parties are committed to the site; it’s just a matter of waiting for the financing to be in place.

[NYguy]

Tim Schreier (http://www.flickr.com/photos/timschreier/4325931257/sizes/l/in/set-72157623269177742/)

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[scalziand]

Hmmm. I wonder how long it will be before we get shots of people deliberately posing in front of the figures.:hmmm:

[NYguy]

Hmmm. I wonder how long it will be before we get shots of people deliberately posing in front of the figures.:hmmm:

Or adding their own graffiti...it's New York, give it a little longer.....:sly:

[NYguy]

agent j loves agent a (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jpinlac/4328827462/sizes/l/)

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[NYCLuver]

February 4th, 2010

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[NYguy]

This is probably the most photographed wall in the city...;)
Maybe they should do regular art exhibits. It will at least keep people's minds off the giant hole behind the wall. I'm still waiting for that graffiti...

nanoute (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nanoute/page4/)

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[NYguy]

It's interesting that sites such as this aren't required to be completed to street level, like 250 W. 55th street are.

jhenderson1983 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jhenderson1983/4334151428/sizes/l/)

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[gttx]

I'll take their word for it...


I don't think they would have started if they weren't fully commited to getting this built. The financing problem is worldwide.


We'll just have to watch the other large towers going up a couple of blocks away in the meantime.

The problem is that this site and the WTC site are so inextricably linked, particularly since Silverstein is developing both of them. Without the 10+million sqft of office space and transit hub next door, this building won't get financing, regardless of whether it may be available or not.

My bet would be that we don't hear anything about this site until the PA and Silverstein work something out about the infrastructure. Until then, the whole project is up in the air, including this tower.

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

I hope they get things resolved and continue soon. Here and on the two WTC-towers.

[NYguy]

The problem is that this site and the WTC site are so inextricably linked, particularly since Silverstein is developing both of them. Without the 10+million sqft of office space and transit hub next door, this building won't get financing, regardless of whether it may be available or not.

This doesn't have anything to do with the WTC site. There are quite a few residential towers waiting for financing in New York, including the already in the groudn 56 Leonard just a few blocks away, and 50 West Street, just a little further. Regardless of what happens with the WTC, Silverstein plans to get this one built, and I can see financing sooner for this tower than I can for the office towers. Even though the WTC rebuilding was planned as "spec" bulding, he will now need to nail down tenants. But as far as financing for this tower goes, it's the same as every other residential/hotel tower in line.

[gramsjdg]

This tower is phenomenal; tall and very thin, making a nice transition from iconic buildings like Woolworth and RCA to the new WTC structures.

[canada90]

I really would like to see this building build..cuz it's not like all those glass box shape buildings.

[nycdagreatest]

this design reminds me of 20 exchange place.

[NYguy]

Cue the crickets...

APRIL 23, 2010

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And a look with envy at New York's new, tallest residential, just a couple of blocks away...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/123900183/large.jpg

[evanmack]

I really would like to see this building build..cuz it's not like all those glass box shape buildings.

I couldn't have said it better myself! :tup:

[RoldanTTLB]

Hole is still clean as a whistle (great windows through the construction fence now, though)...

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[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

i rlly hate the design...its not very progressive or anything we dont already have in the empire state...

[scalziand]

i rlly hate the design...its not very progressive or anything we dont already have in the empire state...

And it's not supposed to be.

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

And it's not supposed to be.

to me this is just a larger design of a concrete building you could easily find on the upper east and west side

[Duffstuff129]

to me this is just a larger design of a concrete building you could easily find on the upper east and west side

Does it try to be the Empire State? Why would a Robert Stern design ever try to be "progressive"? Does this rendering seem to show a concrete facade?

I think you're unfairly knocking a well designed tower because it is not aggressively modern or sheathed in glass.

http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/13_36_dbox_99church_dusk_revised%5B1%5D.jpg
wtc.com

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

to me this is just a larger design of a concrete building you could easily find on the upper east and west side

It is a concrete building, according to CTBUH

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

Does it try to be the Empire State? Why would a Robert Stern design ever try to be "progressive"? Does this rendering seem to show a concrete facade?

I think you're unfairly knocking a well designed tower because it is not aggressively modern or sheathed in glass.

http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/13_36_dbox_99church_dusk_revised%5B1%5D.jpg
wtc.com

thats exactly why im knocking it,its just another attempt to recreate 20 exchange place...we already have enough of these types of towers,theres no reason for another

[vandelay]

When's the last time anyone attempted to build a building like 20 Exchange Place downtown? People should stop trying to build glass boxes, there are already enough of them.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[Dac150]

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with this tower; it’s actually a breath of fresh air compared to what is being developed in the immediate area. And by that I mean something different to contrast all the glass. Short of 15 CPW, there really hasn’t been a significant building of this type developed in the city, let alone in this part. I think people are poking at it for the sake of doing so.

Try to use the Four Seasons Hotel in Midtown as a reference in terms of a rough comparison.

[scalziand]

It is a concrete building, according to CTBUH

CTBUH cares about the structure of the building more than what it's clad in. Yes, the structure will be built out of concrete, but it will be clad in limestone.

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with this tower; it’s actually a breath of fresh air compared to what is being developed in the immediate area. And by that I mean something different to contrast all the glass. Short of 15 CPW, there really hasn’t been a significant building of this type developed in the city, let alone in this part. I think people are poking at it for the sake of doing so.

Try to use the Four Seasons Hotel in Midtown as a reference in terms of a rough comparison.

quite honestly i cant stand he Four Seasons Hotel in Midtown either...

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

When's the last time anyone attempted to build a building like 20 Exchange Place downtown? People should stop trying to build glass boxes, there are already enough of them.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

there enough concrete and limestone....Manhattan is practically made of the stuff...

[Dac150]

The appeal of this building will depend heavily on the quality of its construction and materials used. If the quality in any way mirrors that of 15 CPW, then rest assured that this will be a beautiful building. Judging by the developer and nature of who will occupy this building, I’d guarantee that this building will live up to that high standard of expectation.

[NYguy]

Being a block away from controversy hasn't put this one in the news. All things quiet here, but the wall still looks nice..

AUGUST 21, 2010

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[patriotizzy]

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Aw dang, I was hoping your post would be that of commencing construction :(

[JSsocal]

Well its funny you say that NYguy, because in one of the fox news segments about the ground zero mosque they showed the WTC, and then zoomed into the 99 Church st site as if this was where they were planning to build the mosque. It frustrated me to say the least.

[brian.odonnell20]

I really wish this would get built and 56 leonard not.

[RobertWalpole]

Both will be built.

[NOPA]

Any updates about this? I love the design btw. Its a great transition between the wtc and the woolworth. However, San Francisco is not one of the cities painted on the wall. Sad.